[Icom] Strike

Thu May 6 15:49:25 EDT 2004

yeah....I'm looking at buying a house out in the country and putting up a couple of towers as I am in a rent house now.  I can't design/ground properly here and I wasn't covered for the rigs I lost.  I will be getting the arrl insurance so that I don't strech my pending homeowners policy too much.

At least my classic IC-505 wasn't affected nor my brand new 706mkIIG to keep it on topic.

73,
Jon
KD5SFA

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
Sent: May 6, 2004 9:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Icom] Strike

Thanks Jon. That ARRL radio equipment insurance looks better and better. As
you know Texas homeowners insurance is a disaster--big deductibles, one big
claim and you get cancelled.

Andy K5VM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "KD5SFA" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Icom] Strike

| I live in Arlington (spitting distance to Dallas) and had a small feeder
strike a couple of months ago.
| I lost an antenna and several radios, automatic antenna tuner, power
supply, satellite receiver, oven, dsl modem etc.
|
| Items were lost through the ground both AC and RF/power supply/battery
connections.
|
| The items not lost were not connected to anything or had no ac ground
connection.
|
| My future strategy is to fully disconnect everything from everything and
only run those items required on battery backup as well as use indoor
antennas where feasible.
|
| My pc runs on a small ups, the monitor runs on a small ups, the dsl
modem/router-switch runs on it's own small ups.  Those probably saved those
items except for the dsl modem....probably got hit through the phone line.
|
| I lost a 6m allmode rig that was attached to the same battery source as a
dual band kenwood that was still attached to rf ground.  The kenwood might
not be repairable, the 6m powers up but does not receive or transmit.  It
may be the transistor that operates the relay at the antenna connection
between the recevie and transmit sections.  Still trying to locate a service
manual for the ft-690rII.
|
| I feel I got lucky because it was not a direct strike and I didn't lose
everything.  I also learned a lot above and beyond what I have read here and
on other groups as well as professional grounding texts.
|
| My thoughts are this....
| It is not if you will be struck, but rather a matter of when since we tend
to put lightning rods up in the air.
|
| 73,
| Jon
| KD5SFA
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: [email protected]
| Sent: May 6, 2004 7:35 AM
| To: [email protected]
| Subject: Re: [Icom] Strike
|
| Hi Joe-
|
| This may sound like complete blasphemy but I have had several very
| knowledgeable people tell me I should not ground my single radio at all.
It
| is by necessity on a second floor. What are your thoughts or anyone else
in
| the group?
|
| I do disconnect from the antenna when not operating. Should I also
| disconnect the radio from the house AC line? I do disconnect my 4KL linear
| when not operating. I live in Texas and we get a fair amount of lighting
| although I have never heard of a ham strike in Dallas although I'm sure
| several must have happened.
|
|  I use a DSL line for spots so the 756 Pro II radio and the linear are
| indirectly coupled to the telephone line through a laptop serial port
line.
| Should that laptop line be disconnected when not operating?
|
| Thanks, Andy K5VM
|
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Joe" <[email protected]>
| To: <[email protected]>
| Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 5:06 AM
| Subject: Re: [Icom] Strike
|
|
| | It could very well be that the strike went OUT the telephone line and
not
| in. The strike may have come in the power line and looked for multiple
| ground paths.
| |
| | I work for a cellular provider and we have experienced many lightning
hits
| in the past.  Most damaging hits come in the power lines.  Suprisingly,
the
| tower hits are not as damaging as the power line hits.  Tower hits
sometime
| cause no damage at all (I've been at the site during a couple of these).
| The power line is usually the culpret of most of the worse damage, and it
is
| capable of handling tremendous surge currents before the breakers trip.
| |
| | The telephone line really does not have the current carrying capability
of
| massive damage.  It sounds like the strike came in the power line and
found
| multiple grounds through your equipment and the telephone line.
| |
| | The trick to having a good ground system is to ground things so that
most
| of the strike goes directly to ground and not through your equipment.
| Sometimes this is not possible in a ham shack because you cannot provide a
| good enough ground to absorb the entire hit.  The strike takes multiple
| paths.  Unles you have a near perfect ground and ground ring like a cell
| site should have, disconnecting the radios is the only safe way.
Sometimes
| people confuse a safety ground (like a 3 prong plug) with a lightning
| protection ground.
| |
| | As far as damage is concerned, a poor lightning protection ground can be
| worse than no ground at all .
| |
| | 73, Joe, k1ike
| |
| | William Diamond <[email protected]> wrote:
| | No need to get a thread started on this but the phone Co. claims that
| their
| | system is so well protected, they could not induce a strike to the
inside
| of
| | a dwelling. Yea right ...........
| |
| | There are 4 separate 110 and 2 220 volt lines ran to the radio room and
| all
| | four of the 110 breakers were tripped.
| |
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Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
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