[ICOM] How does a LiON battery "die"

[William Diamond]

I have not used this type of batt in radio gear but I have in my photo gear.
My opinion for what is worth, is, they are JUNK.

They usually fail after only a few charges and the owner gets discussed and
sells the unit. I picked up a Nikon for less than a song 3 moths old because
of it.

I always try and get non lion replacement batteries.  I recently bought 6
new batteries for one of my Nikon SLR cameras and they shipped 6 Lion. 4
were DOA, SHOT, JUNK.

I am sure there are many that think they are wonderful but then I used to
think Drake was the only way to fly.

For the record, I was speaking in answer to Lion batts for Icom gear only.

  William J. Diamond
 Rogers, Arkansas USA
Ham Radio Operator WRØT

  Please visit my all 
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   www.wjdiamond.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
Behalf Of David J. Ring, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:46 AM
To: ICOM Reflector
Subject: Re: [ICOM] How does a LiON battery "die"

If you purchased it new, something is definately wrong.  Check the output 
from the battery charger.  Is there voltage?

If you purchased it used (previously owned!) then this might be the reason 
the owner sold it.  Often a user doesn't like a HT because it starts giving 
short life, and the user doesn't understand that batteries aren't forever, 
they're just "rechargable" for a while.

Many battery packs have a fuse which when the battery overheats, causes it 
to fail and from then on, not accept a charge and give a faulty reading.

v73
David N1EA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>
To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>; <th-f6a at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: [ICOM] How does a LiON battery "die"


>I recently acquired an HT which uses LiON battery
> packs, and have a question about the characteristics
> of LiON batteries.  How does the pack behave when it
> is nearing the end of its life.  Does it act like a
> NiCD or NIMH battery pack, where it will hold less and
> less of a charge, to where it will reach full charge
> status quicker than normal.  Or does it just refuse to
> even accept a charge-going from pretty normal to dead
> almost instantly.  I am not sure if the battery packs
> I have are at fault, or if the charger in the radio
> isn't working correctly.
>
> 73s John NE0P
>
>
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