[Icom] Last Word on Internal Keying Relays (I hope...)
Tony Hwang
[email protected]
Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:58:10 -0700
Hi,
For couple hundred bucks, used 'scope is a plenty. I just took some old
'scope home when I retired. People owning a radio like that ought to
have some decent test gears. I'm old fashioned ham, not satisfied with
just pushing buttons. I gotta poke, pick, break and fix things myself.
73,
Tony, VE6CGX
Bruce Marton wrote:
>
> Yep,
> That will work too, but a scope is a more expensive tool, and not too many
> people would necessarily have one. A good quality meter is only a couple of
> hundred bucks and most people have one.
> 73's,
> Bruce K1XR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Hwang" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Icom] Last Word on Internal Keying Relays (I hope...)
>
> > Hi,
> > Better than meter, stick a 'scope probe and visually check for
> > sure.
> > 73,
> > Tony, VE6CGX
> >
> > Bruce Marton wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > > Like I said, you really need to stick a meter on the amp. This will
> tell
> > > exactly what the voltage is and at what current. Do go out and pick up
> a
> > > Fluke at the local Grainger or whomever supply house. It will less than
> the
> > > cost of the shipping charges to Icom for any repairs. Plus think of
> all
> > > those other things you can do with it.
> > > Adam does know his stuff, so take whatever you can from him, he is
> always
> > > willing to help.
> > > 73's,
> > > Bruce K1XR
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Icom] Last Word on Internal Keying Relays (I hope...)
> > >
> > > > Bruce I never said I didn't trust Adam. He has been very helpful. I do
> not
> > > > have a meter to do so but I do know that the keying specs for the 91B
> is
> > > 25
> > > > vdc unkeyed and 7 ma keyed. That is straight from Alpha's web site
> spec
> > > > page. It also does not call for n external box for hooking up 756 and
> up
> > > > series radios. just a shielded RCA to RCA cable, just like I use with
> my
> > > > FT1000D now. No offense but I have never doubted Adam. Thank you and
> 73,
> > > > Steve, NX1G
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bruce Marton" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Icom] Last Word on Internal Keying Relays (I hope...)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Steve and everyone else,
> > > > > Why not just measure your voltage and current at the back of your
> amp
> > > and
> > > > > see if it fits the specs of the transceiver?
> > > > > I just put an Acom 2000A on line, which is very similar to the Alpha
> > > 91B,
> > > > > only fully automatic and computer controlled, and I was very worried
> > > about
> > > > > what would happen with direct connection to the IC 781. I measured
> the
> > > > amp,
> > > > > it displayed 12 vdc at 1.6 mils and no problems. I connected it
> > > directly
> > > > to
> > > > > the 781 and I am good to go.
> > > > > I would not loose sleep over this issue if you measure it with a
> good
> > > > Fluke
> > > > > or similar meter.
> > > > > 73, Bruce K1XR
> > > > > P.S.
> > > > > Adam has always given me very sound advice over the years, he knows
> his
> > > > > stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:50 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Icom] Last Word on Internal Keying Relays (I hope...)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Adam, I just checked the Alpha site and it calls for the 99 and
> 91B
> > > > which
> > > > > I
> > > > > > have to be at 25 vdc unkeyed and 7 ma keyed. To me this seems to
> > > exceed
> > > > > the
> > > > > > relay or relays on the Pro II. Any thoughts there or am I missing
> > > > > something.
> > > > > > Thanks and sorry to be such a pain. 73, Steve, NX1G
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Adam Farson" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 2:12 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Icom] Last Word on Internal Keying Relays (I
> hope...)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yup, it's almost full moon again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For the last time, I hope:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maximum ratings of Icom HF transceiver internal keying relays:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 16V @ 200 mA DC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Exceed these ratings at your peril. Fortunately, it's not my
> problem
> > > > if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > blow your relay.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best 73,
> > > > > > > Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
> > > > > > > North Vancouver, BC, Canada
> > > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/ab4oj/
> > > > > > > Note new e-mail address:
> > > > > > > mailto:[email protected]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]]On
> > > > > > > Behalf Of Duane Budd
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 09:39
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [Icom] Quick question...is there a Pro/Pro II
> > > reflector?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "The answer is 25v 7mA. Piece of cake for the ProII relay
> > > > > > > or for that
> > > > > > > matter any relay."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, maybe NOT. Here is what I got from Icom Tech support
> > > > > > > when I asked that question:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The rating is 16 votla/2 amps....
> > > > > > > This means you can run a max of 2 amps or 16 volts, but not
> > > > > > > both.....
> > > > > > > Generaly 13.8 volts at 1 amp.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gerd
> > > > > > > www.icomamerica.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Duane Budd [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > > Posted At: Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:14 AM
> > > > > > > Posted To: Amateur
> > > > > > > Conversation: IC-756PRO
> > > > > > > Subject: IC-756PRO
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have been told that the manual is wrong with respect to
> > > > > > > the rating of the "SEND RELAY" in the manual is incorrect -
> > > > > > > that the 2 amp rating is wrong and that the correct rating
> > > > > > > is 2100 milliamps.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the correct rating, please?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 73...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Duane Budd
> > > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Duane Budd
> > > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > > Johnson City, TN
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > **All outgoing Email is screened by Norton Antivirus**
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On
> > > > > > > Behalf Of Larry Benko
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:26 PM
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Icom] Quick question...is there a Pro/Pro II
> > > > > > > reflector?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steve,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > GO to Alpha...... See
> > > > > > > http://www.alpha-amps.com/html/ampkey.htm
> > > > > > > The answer is 25v 7mA. Piece of cake for the ProII relay or
> > > > > > > for that
> > > > > > > matter any relay.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 73,
> > > > > > > Larry Benko, W0QE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steve Jones wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No Problem Adam,. I just wish I could get some simple
> > > > > > > questions answered
> > > > > > > > about the Icom Pro II. They are or should be black and
> > > > > > > white yes or no
> > > > > > > > answers..but I can't get a straight answer. One is I have
> > > > > > > an Alpha 91B
> > > > > > > > amplifier and with my FT1000D I can just hook up a RCA to
> > > > > > > RCA male cable to
> > > > > > > > key the amp. Some have said with the newer amps like mine
> > > > > > > it is no
> > > > > > > > problem..others say no way. There has to be a yes or no
> > > > > > > answer on that
> > > > > > > > question unless you are using older amps such as SB220,
> > > > > > > L4B. etc. Also on
> > > > > > > > the tuner matter...I have heard that if you are going to
> > > > > > > tune the radio on 6
> > > > > > > > meters...you should go in to the menu system and shut off
> > > > > > > auto tune on band
> > > > > > > > change and PTT tune. If you want to tune on 6 meter, leave
> > > > > > > the tune button
> > > > > > > > off and when you dial in a 6 meter frequency and want to
> > > > > > > tune it, you just
> > > > > > > > push and hold the tune button for manual tuning. If you
> > > > > > > don't disable this
> > > > > > > > feature..I have heard the relays get welded together and
> > > > > > > radio has to go
> > > > > > > > back to Icom. Can you give me any straight answers on
> > > > > > > these two concerns.
> > > > > > > > Thanks and 73, Steve, NX1G
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Adam Farson" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 7:46 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [Icom] Quick question...is there a Pro/Pro II
> > > > > > > reflector?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Steve,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My pleasure! Many thanks for the kind comments. As I no
> > > > > > > longer run the
> > > > > > > > Icom
> > > > > > > > > Net (due to propagation and geographical
> > > > > > > considerations), I try to help
> > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > on the reflector whenever I can.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Have you checked out the new qsl.net Icom site?
> > > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/icom/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best 73,
> > > > > > > > > Adam, VA7OJ/AB4OJ
> > > > > > > > > North Vancouver, BC, Canada
> > > > > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/ab4oj/
> > > > > > > > > Note new e-mail address:
> > > > > > > > > mailto:[email protected]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On
> > > > > > > > > Behalf Of Steve Jones
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:52
> > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Icom] Quick question...is there a Pro/Pro
> > > > > > > II reflector?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you for the help Adam , I appreciate it very much
> > > > > > > and especially for
> > > > > > > > > not sending some smart A reply. It really gets old and
> > > > > > > we have a few
> > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > tough guys behind there keyboard that enjoy sending
> > > > > > > nothing but trouble
> > > > > > > > > instead of help. It's simply not needed anywhere,
> > > > > > > especially in Ham
> > > > > > > > radio!!
> > > > > > > > > 73, Steve, NX1G
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Adam Farson" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 1:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [Icom] Quick question...is there a Pro/Pro
> > > > > > > II reflector?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ic756pro2/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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