[High-Speed-CW] High-Speed-CW Digest, Vol 38, Issue 1

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Thu Apr 28 12:34:36 EDT 2011 

Fabian, DJ1YFK, you wrote;

"But the Belarussian competitors cannot be compared with "normal" hams,
or even the other serious competitors at the HST (from Russia,
Romania) because they do it professionally, and they _only_ practice
to send code groups. Plain text or QSOs are absolutely not within
their skill sets."

Can you please elaborate? Where is Morse code still used professionally?

73,
Bob, NC6Q 
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Today's Topics:

   1. LIST ACTIVITY (OllySteed at aol.com)
   2. Re: LIST ACTIVITY (Chuck Broadwell, W5UXH)
   3. Re: LIST ACTIVITY (Barry)
   4. Re: LIST ACTIVITY (Chuck Broadwell, W5UXH)
   5. Re: LIST ACTIVITY (Fabian Kurz)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:35:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: OllySteed at aol.com
Subject: [High-Speed-CW] LIST ACTIVITY
To: high-speed-cw at mailman.qth.net
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Is anyone alive here:-)
Just checking.
I  signed up 2 days ago and have not seen a post  yet
BOB
AF2Q

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#4600-NOR-CAL  ZOMBI-#243-CW-CODE-WARRIOR # 1 ARRL A1-OP  



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:44:38 -0600
From: "Chuck Broadwell, W5UXH" <Chuck.Broadwell at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [High-Speed-CW] LIST ACTIVITY
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I see about one message per year or so, so I think the answer is:  NO

Chuck, W5UXH
Las Cruces, NM

On 4/27/2011 12:35 PM, OllySteed at aol.com wrote:
> Is anyone alive here:-)
> Just checking.
> I  signed up 2 days ago and have not seen a post  yet
> BOB
> AF2Q
>
>




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:51:09 -0600
From: Barry <w2up at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [High-Speed-CW] LIST ACTIVITY
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As long as I have someone's attention, wonder if any list members are 
interested in participating on the US team in the IARU HST (high speed 
telegraphy) World Championship.  It will take place in Germany in 
October 2011.  Details at http://www.hst2011.de/

It's a fun time and you will meet some folks who have incredible QRQ 
abilities.  I've participated in 2 past events (Macedonia in 2005 and 
Bulgaria in 2009).

As now now, I have 3 definites and 2 probablies (including me).  If 
you're interested or have any questions, drop me an email.
Barry W2UP

On 4/27/2011 12:35 PM, OllySteed at aol.com wrote:
> Is anyone alive here:-)
> Just checking.
> I  signed up 2 days ago and have not seen a post  yet
> BOB
> AF2Q
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CW-QRP-Homebrewers/
> QRP_L  #1437-N.J.QRP-#126-ARS #350-FISTS #4916-SKCC #4570-ARCI-
> #4600-NOR-CAL  ZOMBI-#243-CW-CODE-WARRIOR # 1 ARRL A1-OP
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Barry Kutner, W2UP             Lakewood, CO



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:55:15 -0600
From: "Chuck Broadwell, W5UXH" <Chuck.Broadwell at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [High-Speed-CW] LIST ACTIVITY
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Looks like my first attempt to send this to the list sent it directly to 
Barry instead of the list, so I am repeating it here just in case anyone 
else has any information on sources of some recordings that might be 
available:
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Barry,

Sorry, not me.  But I do have a question that I have posed to some of 
the European EHSC guys in the past,  with no replies.  I would really 
like to hear a recording of a typical EHSC qso at 60 wpm where they are 
using keyers (as required).  In my 50 years of CW, I have never heard 
anyone send reasonable CW on a paddle above 45 to 50 wpm, and suspect I 
have not really heard proper timing above 45 wpm.  It would really be 
interesting and a pleasure to actually hear properly timed CW from a 
paddle at 50 wpm or higher.

I don't recall what the top sending speeds are in the HST, and am not 
sure if they reach speeds near 50 or not?  Do they make recordings that 
would be available?

I qso daily around 60 wpm, for something like an hour, but only with a 
kbd of course.  I cannot write (or otherwise generate hardcopy) reliably 
at any speed, and am not able to copy random characters (e.g. call 
signs) accurately at any speed either.  On the paddle I can sometimes 
manage reasonable sending error rates in the 35 to 40 wpm range during a 
QSO.  Under competitive pressure, that probably would drop to 20 wpm, 
which is unbearably slow of course!

So, any information on possible sources of audio recordings of decent 
keyer sent QRQ would be of interest.

73,

Chuck, W5UXH
Las Cruces, NM

On 4/27/2011 1:51 PM, Barry wrote:
> As long as I have someone's attention, wonder if any list members are
> interested in participating on the US team in the IARU HST (high speed
> telegraphy) World Championship.  It will take place in Germany in
> October 2011.




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:28:17 +0200
From: Fabian Kurz <mail at fkurz.net>
Subject: Re: [High-Speed-CW] LIST ACTIVITY
To: high-speed-cw at mailman.qth.net
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Hello,

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 02:55:15PM -0600, Chuck Broadwell, W5UXH wrote:
> Sorry, not me.  But I do have a question that I have posed to some of 
> the European EHSC guys in the past,  with no replies.  I would really 
> like to hear a recording of a typical EHSC qso at 60 wpm where they are 
> using keyers (as required).

You don't really want to hear it :-)
Most members of the EHSC are (or were at a time) able to produce
readable CW at 60wpm (PARIS) with paddles, but it's not really a
pleasure to listen to it. Effectively (due to spacing) most of
these QSOs are probably closer to 50wpm than 60wpm...

> I don't recall what the top sending speeds are in the HST, and am not 
> sure if they reach speeds near 50 or not?  Do they make recordings that 
> would be available?

The current HST world records:
http://www.darc.de/uploads/media/HST-World-records-13.10.2010.pdf

Transmitting letters: EU7KI 283 cpm (that's REAL characters, due to
the random nature of letters in code groups that's about 330cpm /
66wpm PARIS). Figures are even more impressive: EW8NW 254 cpm (real
again, that's over 80wpm in PARIS!).

But the Belarussian competitors cannot be compared with "normal" hams,
or even the other serious competitors at the HST (from Russia,
Romania) because they do it professionally, and they _only_ practice
to send code groups. Plain text or QSOs are absolutely not within
their skill sets.

Most "normal" hams at the HST competitions are _much_ slower. I can
send plain text at about 45wpm and on a good day 50wpm (PARIS), but at
the HST I am happy if I can do about 35wpm. 

73,
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