[Heathkit] Heathkit Digest, Vol 95, Issue 20

Mon Dec 12 15:54:54 EST 2011

My two cents worth....
The manual came with every Heathkit product and Heathkit authorized the owner of 
the kit the right to use the manual and the information contained within the 
manual. I consider that to be an implied license to use the manual.When the 
ownership of the kit was transfered to a third party I believe that implied 
license is transfered as well, even if the physical manual could not be located. 

I also beleive that copying the schematic and alignment procedures to study and 
educate yorself falls under the "fair use" doctrine.

Just my views ....

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Today's Topics:

  1. Looking for HW-18-1, HW-18-2 info (Sandy)
  2. Re: Heathkit Manual Copyright (Ross Stenberg)
  3. Re: Heathkit Manual Copyright (Ross Stenberg)
  4. Re: Heathkit Manual Copyright (rbethman)
  5. Re: Heathkit Manual Copyright (Ross Stenberg)
  6. DX-100B AC wiring (was DX-100B on Phone - bad audio
      distortion / oscillation) (Rick Poole)
  7. Re: Heathkit Manual Copyright (Carl)
  8. Re: Heathkit Manual Copyright (Bry Carling)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:57:54 -0600
From: "Sandy" <ebjr37 at charter.net>
Subject: [Heathkit] Looking for HW-18-1, HW-18-2 info
To: "Heathkit reflector" <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
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Looking for a schematic and a technical description of the Heathkit HW-18-1 CAP 
single band transceiver.  Anybody know where I can get a copy?  Want to explore 
possibility to convert to 60 meter ham band.

73,
Sandy W5TVW

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:25:30 -0600
From: Ross Stenberg <k9cox at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Heathkit Manual Copyright
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I once copied a VHS tape with my VCR, the FBI never caught me in-spite 
of the warnings.

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:27:22 -0600
From: Ross Stenberg <k9cox at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Heathkit Manual Copyright
To: heathkit at mailman.qth.net
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PS: I also removed the tag from my pillow that said do not remove under 
penalty of law.

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:34:54 -0500
From: rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Heathkit Manual Copyright
To: heathkit at mailman.qth.net
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Ah yes.  The ubiquitous material tag.

All that "Do Not Remove Under Penalty of Law" really means, is that it 
cannot be removed PRIOR to sale.

Once you buy it, you are free to remove it whenever you please!

They have to print that warning simply so the "vendor" can't sell 
something without the buyer having the opportunity to KNOW what all 
materials are used.

This allows the buyer to determine if the materials are suited to them.  
Such as to ensure that they do not buy something they are allergic to.

I've always found it to be a laugh!

Bob - N0DGN

On 12/11/2011 4:27 PM, Ross Stenberg wrote:
> PS: I also removed the tag from my pillow that said do not remove under
> penalty of law.
>

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:56:13 -0600
From: Ross Stenberg <k9cox at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Heathkit Manual Copyright
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I know Bob...that is on the tag as well. Andy Rooney, RIP

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:56:07 -0500
From: Rick Poole <wa1rkt at arrl.net>
Subject: [Heathkit] DX-100B AC wiring (was DX-100B on Phone - bad
    audio distortion / oscillation)
To: heathkit at mailman.qth.net
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Just thought you all would be interested in my latest adventure with 
this DX-100B...

A previous owner had replaced the dual-fused plug with a 3-wire 
grounded polarized plug and cable, and a fuseholder on the back of the chassis.

Yes, he did wire up the power cable so that the neutral side of the 
power cord is fused, and not the hot side.

And yes, I did discover this the hard way.  :-(

Rick WA1RKT

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:07:36 -0500
From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Heathkit Manual Copyright
To: "Ross Stenberg" <k9cox at charter.net>,    <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
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I used to rip off mattress labels....

Carl
KM1H

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From: "Ross Stenberg" <k9cox at charter.net>
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Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Heathkit Manual Copyright

>I once copied a VHS tape with my VCR, the FBI never caught me in-spite 
> of the warnings.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:19:58 -0500
From: "Bry Carling" <bcarling at cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Heathkit Manual Copyright
To: "Lloyd Godsey" <ldgodsey at cox.net>
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http://mods.dk

> http://www.vintage-radio.info/heathkit/
> 
> 
> 
> http://web.archive.org/web/20010405113915/http://www.circuitarchive.
> co.uk/he
> ath.htm
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heathkit-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:heathkit-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bry Carling
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:10 AM
> To: heathkit at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Heathkit Manual Copyright
> 
> Great comments, Miles. Thank you. It makes me wonder what happens
> when the
> train has already left the station, as in this situation. 
> How enforceable is this if someone is not selling the shcmatics for
> profit
> but gives away thousands and thousands of copies as .GIF files atht
> are on
> trhousands of thousands of computers. DCMA probably helps this
> copyright
> holder, but he must have a very thick skin after all the things
> people wrote
> about him on various groups a couple of years ago when this
> started...
> 
> You can still download most Heathkit manuals on the web from
> various
> countries, and a lot of guys still send them to each other under
> cover of
> darkness where prying eyes can't watch. 
> Is it illegal to talk about e-mailing them to someone? OR is it the
> act of
> reading the manual that could get someone in trouble with the law?
> 
> Is it the possession of these GIF files that is illegal? The
> transmission of
> them? The sharing of  them? The selling - I can see that last one
> for sure
> as a prosecutable offense, but wonder about the others, especially
> since so
> many communities can't even afford to put real criminals in jail for
> the
> full time of their sentences.
> 
> It sounds like your last statement about patent could be a powerful
> one.
> 
> >  however, invite a better copyright lawyer than I to investigate
> the 
> > question of how far the air use doctrine may apply to the case of
> > republishing schematic diagrams and " by way of example "
> > alignment
> > procedures. 
> > 
> > There may also be a question of whether Heathkit was attempting to
> use 
> > copyright law to protect something that can only be protected by a
> > patent.
> 
> 
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