[Heathkit] IP-17 Manual

[Carl]

I have a fairly large but incomplete database of Heath manuals and make 
copies available free to anyone that needs them. Anybody that has a list of 
what they have on disk or CD let me know please, Id like to obtain copies.

One way around all this nonsense is to make them available on one of the 
file sharing services.....shades of Kaaza...bring on the RIAA clones for 
Heathkit !!

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Van K7VS" <wa7fab at cdsnet.net>
To: "W3ZF" <heathkit at juno.com>; <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] IP-17 Manual


> Hi Danny.   Well, I understand as you do.  Selling original manuals is 
> just fine.  It’s the selling of copies of the manuals as several sites are 
> doing.  Obviously, “manualman” was simply attempting to let people know he 
> has heathkit manuals for sale with his cute little note on the reflector 
> about the quick sale.  It sorta steamed me a bit.  No, haven’t heard a 
> peep from anyone including the fellows selling Heathkit manual copies to 
> the public.  I would be surprised if I do.  They know they are doing it 
> illegally.   I know Don went after the copywrite and spent many thousands 
> of dollars to acquire the rights.  And that several respectable resellers 
> and the Bama site in good faith dropped Heathkit manual availability.
>
> As an aside,  I met Don about ten-twelve years ago at least,  while 
> tracking down some problems in a Heath Weather Station I had purchased and 
> at which time he had managed to find a programmable IC, get it programmed 
> to replace the primary chip that powered the wx stn and that no longer was 
> available thus minimally saving one generation of popular weather 
> stations.  He also added rs-232 capabilities to the one I was using at the 
> time and we became sort of friendly.  I mentioned along the line that I 
> had around one hundred fifty or so original Heathkit manuals (which I 
> still have!) as he was selling copies then.  I  noticed that I had many 
> which he didn’t have and sent him the ones I had for his copying purposes. 
> Which he added to his “inventory.”  As time went along and as I increased 
> my collection of Heath gear he would provide me with free copies of 
> anything I needed and continue to mentor me when it came to my weather 
> stations.  He sells a lot of parts for the weather stations and seem like 
> that is his primary interest.  I know he was concerned with all the Heath 
> buyouts over the years that the manuals would disappear into a dumpster 
> somewhere and probably thought he could make a few bucks to supplement his 
> hobby.  Who knows.  By the way, he worked as a newly minted  electrical 
> engineer right out of college for Heathkit at Benton Harbor in their 
> design department.  So he has a strong connection to Heath.
>
> Van
>
> From: W3ZF
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:28 AM
> To: wa7fab at cdsnet.net
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] IP-17 Manual
>
> Van, might you have received a private response to your question to 
> Manualman?
>
> Obviously, selling ACTUAL original manuals is not an issue here, right? 
> It's COPIES of manuals that aren't saleable under this copyright.
>
> Although this topic leaves a sour taste in most ham's mouth, I can't get 
> over how bold/blatantly some hams have been in their reckless disregard of 
> this relatively recent development regarding the acquisition of the Heath 
> manual copyright.
> As much as I may not like it, it was acquired by d8pro quite legitimately 
> and I feel, as a fellow ham,  it should be respected.
>
> Danny  W3ZF
>
>
>
>
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