[Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???

[Carl]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry WA9VRH" <wa9vrh at dishmail.net>
To: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; "Dan Pividal" 
<dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>; "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" 
<heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???


> So Carl your telling me just because someone exercised his right to 
> purchase the rights to a companies intellectual property you are going 
> to be an asshole and send this persons property that he has legally 
> paid for to someone in another country so you can screw the guy out of 
> his legal property...

Ooooo Oooo , temper sonny


Im perfectly able to exercise my rights to keep this information in the 
free public domain. There is no law prohibiting a non signatory country 
from hosting them. And others have almost no enforcement, especially for 
something as puny as this.


>
> Your one hell of a great example of an Amatuer Radio Operator....
>
> Did you buy your license or did you get it FREE???



I EARNED my license while you were still dribbling
down your mamas leg.



>
> I provided Ken with a number of Heathkit manuals to BAMA.  I was 
> pleased when I saw he had removed them and for the reason why.
>
> I admidt I was surprised at the news that someone purchased the rights 
> to the Heathkit manuals. I can't imagine how he is going to break even 
> no matter what he paid for those rights. However that is his choice. I 
> hope he does well as this probably means that the Heathkit manuals 
> will be around for a long time.


They will be around whether he is there or not. They are too widely 
distributed to ever be stopped.

Carl





>
> 73 Larry WA9VRH
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
> To: "Dan Pividal" <dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>; 
> "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>
>
>> Below is the party line as posted by Ken to some reflectors.
>>
>> Ive been advised that there are some that have copied the complete 
>> file to CD.
>>
>> I am looking for a copy of that CD and will arrange to have it hosted 
>> offshore where the silliness factor is ignored.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> There has been a lot of discussion about the disappearance of the
>> Heathkit manuals from BAMA.
>> It has always been my policy to immediately remove material from BAMA
>> any time a copyright was exercised.  The current owner of the 
>> Heathkit
>> copyright bought and paid for it and has a right to receive a return 
>> on
>> his investment.  When he contacted me to exercise the copyright, I
>> immediately agreed to remove the Heathkit manuals.
>>
>> Copyright is as American as apple pie and is protected by the
>> Constitution and the laws made under it by the Congress.  While I may 
>> be
>> best known for making manuals and schematics available for free
>> downloading on BAMA, I'm here to tell you that I believe in the
>> principle of copyright and have absolutely no trouble with the 
>> exercise
>> of that right by an owner....nor should you.
>>
>> There seems to be some uncertainty about the length that a copyright 
>> is
>> valid.  Some seem to think that copyrighted material enters the 
>> public
>> domain after 20 years.  That is simply not true.  The Heathkit 
>> material
>> copyright extends for 95 years from the copyright date.  So, that 
>> manual
>> for the SB-10 Sideband Adapter copyrighted in 1960 is protected until
>> 2055 when it will become a part of the public domain.  I seriously 
>> doubt
>> that I will be around to add it back to the BAMA collection at that 
>> time!
>>
>> For a succinct presentation of the length of time for a work to 
>> become
>> part of the public domain, see 
>> http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> -- 
>> Ken K4XL
>> k4xl at arrl.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dan Pividal" <dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>
>> To: "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:41 PM
>> Subject: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>>
>>
>>> Did I get this right?
>>> Because some company bought the educational material, that was once 
>>> sold by a company that used to sell radio equipment but has been out 
>>> of that business for over 30 years, we can no longer download 
>>> Heathkit manuals from BAMA.
>>> If this is so we need to start our own files.
>>> What is it with BAMA?
>>> The copyrights on those manuals must be expired by now.
>>> Does the company that bought the rights to the material plan on 
>>> selling the manuals or just keep them out of the hand of HAMS?
>>> Does anyone have more information on this?
>>> Dan/N4VET
>>>
>>
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