[Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors

Fri Apr 13 13:38:49 EDT 2007

I second the suggestion to end this thread.  It was very informational to a
point and I think that point was reached some time ago.
Thanks es 73,
Chris
W7JPG

-----Original Message-----
From: heathkit-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:heathkit-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of C E
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:23 AM
To: jeremy-ca; heathkit at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors

Carl,
Please stop the prattle. Go back to all of my posts
regarding this and see that I mentioned these things. 

The bottom line is that despite your advocating HVLP
systems, a model paint gun system is perrrrrfectly
adequate so you don't have to $pend lot$ of $$$ on
$etting up an HVLP $y$tem. 

You may do this for a living. Some of us don't. 

Cal 
--- jeremy-ca <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:

> I suggest that you proof read your comments before
> posting. Nowhere was 
> Badger or air can mentioned.
> 
> I use a nice quality import dual action airbrush and
> CO2 cans when set up at 
> car shows to do custom touches such as color
> blending flames, panel 
> painting, etc. The brush kit is $30, probably less
> expensive than a new 
> Badger.
> 
> I still wouldnt use it on a large panel nor would I
> buy anything from the HF 
> junk shop.
> HF set up in MA some years ago. They had so many
> consumer complaints that 
> the state shut them down.
> 
> Carl
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
> To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>;
> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors
> 
> 
> > Uh, no, Carh, sorry but you are wrong!
> >
> > I just told you I redid an entire 32V2 cabinet
> using a
> > Badger "model" spray system and canned air.
> Results
> > were fantastic!
> >
> > I believe its equivalent is the one they were
> talking
> > about for 10$ on Harbor Freight. You can use a
> > compressor. I borrowed mine from a friend later on
> but
> > the canned air sufficed. And it costs much less
> than
> > $50. I don't know why it didn't work for you but
> it
> > sure did for me. Got lots of complements on that
> > restored 32V2. I'll be glad to do it again the
> same
> > way I did the last time!
> >
> > Cal. N6KYR/8
> >
> > --- jeremy-ca <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What do you call a "model gun system" ?
> >>
> >> IMO an airbrush is way too small for many
> boatanchor
> >> jobs. Nozzle sizes are
> >> in the 0.3mm range and each painting pass covers
> >> only about an inch or so.
> >> Cheap airbrushes are single action and internal
> mix.
> >> The better ones are
> >> dual action with external mix. And mini
> compressors
> >> of any quality are not
> >> cheap.
> >>
> >> The next step up would be called a mini gun aka
> "Jam
> >> Gun". These are gravity
> >> feed non HVLP but still require at least a 1hp
> >> compressor. These are popular
> >> for larger models such as RC planes and nozzle
> sizes
> >> are in the 0.6 to 1.0
> >> mm range. You can get decent coverage but they
> lack
> >> the finesse of the
> >> HVLP's wide range of adjustments.
> >>
> >> I own several airbrushes and mini guns but dont
> use
> >> them for radio work.
> >>
> >> Examples of both types can be found from that
> Ebay
> >> vendor I referenced
> >> earlier.
> >>
> >> With many homeowners purchasing moderate size
> >> compressors these days for air
> >> tools, wood working, and many other uses, the
> >> addition of a nice HVLP touch
> >> up gun will set him back under $50 including
> >> regulator and in line filter.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
> >> To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>;
> >> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:41 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat
> anchors
> >>
> >>
> >> > Carl:
> >> > HVLP is not a practical cost effective method
> for
> >> hams
> >> > who want to do restoration on an occassional
> 1-2
> >> piece
> >> > per year type affair. Besides,a properly set up
> >> model
> >> > gun system will be quite adequate (and can
> >> produced
> >> > museum quality results). BTDT.
> >> >
> >> > Besides, I don't think you can find HVLP hobby
> >> type
> >> > systems for under $75.00. Big diff.
> >> >
> >> > Cal
> >> > --- jeremy-ca <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Altho conventional guns have been around for a
> >> >> century it took experience
> >> >> and skill to lay down a pro quality job.
> >> >> The learning curve for HVLP is very quick, you
> >> >> really have to TRY to leave
> >> >> runs and orange peel.
> >> >>
> >> >> There is a big difference between museum
> quality
> >> and
> >> >> a typical basement ham
> >> >> type job so use the tools that fit the job.
> >> >>
> >> >> Carl
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
> >> >> To: <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:40 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat
> >> anchors
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > HVLP-High volume Low Pressure. This is
> >> something
> >> >> that
> >> >> > the painting industry came out to prevent
> >> material
> >> >> > coming out of the gun from staying in the
> air
> >> and
> >> >> > going to the target paint piece. I
> personally
> >> >> don't
> >> >> > like them  because I feel that I can get a
> >> better
> >> >> > spray with conventional paint guns.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rattle cans are fine but remember that they
> >> have
> >> >> > limits. I'd opt to use a model paint gun and
> a
> >> >> hobby
> >> >> > compressor for most BA work. In fact, that
> is
> >> how
> >> >> I
> >> >> > painted a 32V2 cabinet.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- k0ewu9 at juno.com wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Stupid me wants to know-  What is "HVLP"
> and
> >> how
> >> >> >> does it work? I have not
> >> >> >> graduated beyond the "Rattle cans"
> >> >> >> old jack
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:13:48 -0400
> "jeremy-ca"
> >> >> >> <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
> >> >> >> writes:
> >> >> >> > As someone who has been painting custom
> >> cars,
> >> >> hot
> 
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