[Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors

jeremy-ca km1h at jeremy.mv.com
Thu Apr 12 18:25:25 EDT 2007


I suggest that you proof read your comments before posting. Nowhere was 
Badger or air can mentioned.

I use a nice quality import dual action airbrush and CO2 cans when set up at 
car shows to do custom touches such as color blending flames, panel 
painting, etc. The brush kit is $30, probably less expensive than a new 
Badger.

I still wouldnt use it on a large panel nor would I buy anything from the HF 
junk shop.
HF set up in MA some years ago. They had so many consumer complaints that 
the state shut them down.

Carl




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors


> Uh, no, Carh, sorry but you are wrong!
>
> I just told you I redid an entire 32V2 cabinet using a
> Badger "model" spray system and canned air. Results
> were fantastic!
>
> I believe its equivalent is the one they were talking
> about for 10$ on Harbor Freight. You can use a
> compressor. I borrowed mine from a friend later on but
> the canned air sufficed. And it costs much less than
> $50. I don't know why it didn't work for you but it
> sure did for me. Got lots of complements on that
> restored 32V2. I'll be glad to do it again the same
> way I did the last time!
>
> Cal. N6KYR/8
>
> --- jeremy-ca <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
>
>> What do you call a "model gun system" ?
>>
>> IMO an airbrush is way too small for many boatanchor
>> jobs. Nozzle sizes are
>> in the 0.3mm range and each painting pass covers
>> only about an inch or so.
>> Cheap airbrushes are single action and internal mix.
>> The better ones are
>> dual action with external mix. And mini compressors
>> of any quality are not
>> cheap.
>>
>> The next step up would be called a mini gun aka "Jam
>> Gun". These are gravity
>> feed non HVLP but still require at least a 1hp
>> compressor. These are popular
>> for larger models such as RC planes and nozzle sizes
>> are in the 0.6 to 1.0
>> mm range. You can get decent coverage but they lack
>> the finesse of the
>> HVLP's wide range of adjustments.
>>
>> I own several airbrushes and mini guns but dont use
>> them for radio work.
>>
>> Examples of both types can be found from that Ebay
>> vendor I referenced
>> earlier.
>>
>> With many homeowners purchasing moderate size
>> compressors these days for air
>> tools, wood working, and many other uses, the
>> addition of a nice HVLP touch
>> up gun will set him back under $50 including
>> regulator and in line filter.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>;
>> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors
>>
>>
>> > Carl:
>> > HVLP is not a practical cost effective method for
>> hams
>> > who want to do restoration on an occassional 1-2
>> piece
>> > per year type affair. Besides,a properly set up
>> model
>> > gun system will be quite adequate (and can
>> produced
>> > museum quality results). BTDT.
>> >
>> > Besides, I don't think you can find HVLP hobby
>> type
>> > systems for under $75.00. Big diff.
>> >
>> > Cal
>> > --- jeremy-ca <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Altho conventional guns have been around for a
>> >> century it took experience
>> >> and skill to lay down a pro quality job.
>> >> The learning curve for HVLP is very quick, you
>> >> really have to TRY to leave
>> >> runs and orange peel.
>> >>
>> >> There is a big difference between museum quality
>> and
>> >> a typical basement ham
>> >> type job so use the tools that fit the job.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
>> >> To: <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:40 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat
>> anchors
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > HVLP-High volume Low Pressure. This is
>> something
>> >> that
>> >> > the painting industry came out to prevent
>> material
>> >> > coming out of the gun from staying in the air
>> and
>> >> > going to the target paint piece. I personally
>> >> don't
>> >> > like them  because I feel that I can get a
>> better
>> >> > spray with conventional paint guns.
>> >> >
>> >> > Rattle cans are fine but remember that they
>> have
>> >> > limits. I'd opt to use a model paint gun and a
>> >> hobby
>> >> > compressor for most BA work. In fact, that is
>> how
>> >> I
>> >> > painted a 32V2 cabinet.
>> >> >
>> >> > --- k0ewu9 at juno.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Stupid me wants to know-  What is "HVLP" and
>> how
>> >> >> does it work? I have not
>> >> >> graduated beyond the "Rattle cans"
>> >> >> old jack
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:13:48 -0400 "jeremy-ca"
>> >> >> <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
>> >> >> writes:
>> >> >> > As someone who has been painting custom
>> cars,
>> >> hot
>> >> >> rods, etc for over
>> >> >> > 50
>> >> >> > years both as a hobby and professionally I
>> take
>> >> >> strong issue with
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > incorrect statements.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > HVLP gives more complete atomization than an
>> >> old
>> >> >> fashioned high
>> >> >> > pressure
>> >> >> > siphon gun. Therefore the finish is
>> smoother,
>> >> runs
>> >> >> are virtually
>> >> >> > eliminated
>> >> >> > and a lot of paint is saved. HVLP takes less
>> >> skill
>> >> >> to become
>> >> >> > proficient as a
>> >> >> > result.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > As far as that ad I have no problem
>> >> understanding
>> >> >> it. Maybe I was
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > taught better reading comprehension in
>> school.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Carl
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> > From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
>> >> >> > To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>;
>> >> >> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>;
>> >> >> > <national at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:10 PM
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat
>> >> anchors
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >I think some more thought must be given.
>> The
>> >> HVLP
>> >> >> guns use a larger
>> >> >> > nozzle
>> >> >> > >hole and therefore have a larger droplet
>> size
>> >> >> making for a poorer
>> >> >> > finish.
>> >> >> > >Also the eBay dealer used in the comment
>> has
>> >> some
>> >> >> problems in that
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > >pictures are quite misleading as to just
>> what
>> >> you
>> >> >> get.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > WBob
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> > > From: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
>> >> >> > > To: <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>;
>> >> >> <national at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> >> > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:33 PM
>> >> >> > > Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [Heathkit] Paint
>> gun
>> >> for
>> >> >> boat anchors
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >>I prefer a HVLP gun as it is much more
>>
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