[Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors

jeremy-ca km1h at jeremy.mv.com
Thu Apr 12 12:24:25 EDT 2007 

What do you call a "model gun system" ?

IMO an airbrush is way too small for many boatanchor jobs. Nozzle sizes are 
in the 0.3mm range and each painting pass covers only about an inch or so. 
Cheap airbrushes are single action and internal mix. The better ones are 
dual action with external mix. And mini compressors of any quality are not 
cheap.

The next step up would be called a mini gun aka "Jam Gun". These are gravity 
feed non HVLP but still require at least a 1hp compressor. These are popular 
for larger models such as RC planes and nozzle sizes are in the 0.6 to 1.0 
mm range. You can get decent coverage but they lack the finesse of the 
HVLP's wide range of adjustments.

I own several airbrushes and mini guns but dont use them for radio work.

Examples of both types can be found from that Ebay vendor I referenced 
earlier.

With many homeowners purchasing moderate size compressors these days for air 
tools, wood working, and many other uses, the addition of a nice HVLP touch 
up gun will set him back under $50 including regulator and in line filter.

Carl



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors


> Carl:
> HVLP is not a practical cost effective method for hams
> who want to do restoration on an occassional 1-2 piece
> per year type affair. Besides,a properly set up model
> gun system will be quite adequate (and can produced
> museum quality results). BTDT.
>
> Besides, I don't think you can find HVLP hobby type
> systems for under $75.00. Big diff.
>
> Cal
> --- jeremy-ca <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
>
>> Altho conventional guns have been around for a
>> century it took experience
>> and skill to lay down a pro quality job.
>> The learning curve for HVLP is very quick, you
>> really have to TRY to leave
>> runs and orange peel.
>>
>> There is a big difference between museum quality and
>> a typical basement ham
>> type job so use the tools that fit the job.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
>> To: <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors
>>
>>
>> > HVLP-High volume Low Pressure. This is something
>> that
>> > the painting industry came out to prevent material
>> > coming out of the gun from staying in the air and
>> > going to the target paint piece. I personally
>> don't
>> > like them  because I feel that I can get a better
>> > spray with conventional paint guns.
>> >
>> > Rattle cans are fine but remember that they have
>> > limits. I'd opt to use a model paint gun and a
>> hobby
>> > compressor for most BA work. In fact, that is how
>> I
>> > painted a 32V2 cabinet.
>> >
>> > --- k0ewu9 at juno.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Stupid me wants to know-  What is "HVLP" and how
>> >> does it work? I have not
>> >> graduated beyond the "Rattle cans"
>> >> old jack
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:13:48 -0400 "jeremy-ca"
>> >> <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
>> >> writes:
>> >> > As someone who has been painting custom cars,
>> hot
>> >> rods, etc for over
>> >> > 50
>> >> > years both as a hobby and professionally I take
>> >> strong issue with
>> >> > your
>> >> > incorrect statements.
>> >> >
>> >> > HVLP gives more complete atomization than an
>> old
>> >> fashioned high
>> >> > pressure
>> >> > siphon gun. Therefore the finish is smoother,
>> runs
>> >> are virtually
>> >> > eliminated
>> >> > and a lot of paint is saved. HVLP takes less
>> skill
>> >> to become
>> >> > proficient as a
>> >> > result.
>> >> >
>> >> > As far as that ad I have no problem
>> understanding
>> >> it. Maybe I was
>> >> > just
>> >> > taught better reading comprehension in school.
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "wolfbob" <wolfbob at csnsys.com>
>> >> > To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>;
>> >> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>;
>> >> > <national at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:10 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat
>> anchors
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >I think some more thought must be given. The
>> HVLP
>> >> guns use a larger
>> >> > nozzle
>> >> > >hole and therefore have a larger droplet size
>> >> making for a poorer
>> >> > finish.
>> >> > >Also the eBay dealer used in the comment has
>> some
>> >> problems in that
>> >> > the
>> >> > >pictures are quite misleading as to just what
>> you
>> >> get.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > WBob
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > > From: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
>> >> > > To: <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>;
>> >> <national at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:33 PM
>> >> > > Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun
>> for
>> >> boat anchors
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>I prefer a HVLP gun as it is much more
>> efficient
>> >> and has minimum
>> >> > overspray
>> >> > >>as well as volatile fumes.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> The one listed below is of excellent quality
>> >> and gives
>> >> > professional
>> >> > >> results. I have been using this model for
>> over
>> >> 5 years.
>> >> > >> Item 250101385245 at that unmentionable
>> place.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Once you use HVLP you'll never use the
>> obsolete
>> >> style again.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Carl
>> >> > >> KM1H
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > >> From: "Glen Zook" <gzook at yahoo.com>
>> >> > >> To: <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> > >> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 6:06 PM
>> >> > >> Subject: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat
>> anchors
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> For those looking for a small, inexpensive,
>> >> paint gun
>> >> > >>> Harbor Freight has what they call a
>> "touch-up"
>> >> spray
>> >> > >>> gun on sale for $11.99 right now.  It is
>> their
>> >> item
>> >> > >>> #00086 and the brand name is Central
>> >> Pneumatic.  The
>> >> > >>> paint cup holds 7 ounces of paint which is
>> >> just right
>> >> > >>> for painting many boat anchor cabinets.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> I went looking for a small paint gun to use
>> in
>> >> > >>> addition to the larger guns that I have
>> been
>> >> using and
>> >> > >>> found this particular gun at my local
>> Harbor
>> >> Freight.
>> >> > >>> It requires a minimum of 30 psi air at 2.8
>> CFM
>> >> and has
>> >> > >>> the "normal" air fittings.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> I haven't looked on their website, but
>> >> according to
>> >> > >>> their "flyer" it should be on sale all over
>> >> the
>> >> > >>> country.  Harbor Freight's URL is
>> >> > >>> http://www.harborfreight.com .
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> The gun appears to be well built and the
>> price
>> >> is
>> >> > >>> definitely very good.  Of course, you need
>> a
>> >> small air
>> >> > >>> compressor to use this paint gun.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Glen, K9STH
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Website:  http://k9sth.com
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
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