[Heathkit] Re: Heathkit HX-10 "Marauder" and matching Receiver "Mohawk"

Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:40:03 -0400

Greg -

If you'll look at figures 30 and 31 on pages 124 and 125 of the Heathkit 
HX-10 "Marauder" transmitter manual you will see the installation 
instructions and interconnection diagrams for the HX-10 and RX-1 "Mohawk" 
receiver.  The receiver in the diagram is not labeled RX-1 but it is a 
diagram of the rear panel of the RX-1.

73,
Ron, WM8Z

RTO Electronics
7280 Territorial Road
Benton Harbor, MI 49022

PH: 269-468-7780
http://www.rtoham.com

>From: "Greg Mijal" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "Greg Mijal" <[email protected]>
>To: "Larry Knapp" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
>CC: "mail list Heathkit" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Re: Heathkit HX-10 "Marauder" and matching Receiver 
>"Mohawk"
>Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:35:36 -0700
>
>This is my last comment concerning the Marauder/Mohawk stuff.
>I stand by my original statement: There is no matching receiver for the
>Marauder.
>So much that I did a little more digging into this before someone decides
>they want to re-write a tiny bit of American manufacturing history.
>"Matching receiver and transmitter"  generally means to a ham that both
>units will have the same frequency and mode coverage. There doesn't seem to
>be a redefinition of the phrase from the 50's to now.
>Mohawk/Marauder band coverage do not "match"
>Documentation: "Matching receiver and transmitter" generally means to a ham
>that the receiver manual will discuss the integration of the transmitter
>into the "matching" system and vice vesa. There doesn't seem to be any
>changes to that expectation either.
>I went looking thru my Xerox copy of the HX 10 manual and cannot find a
>reference to the Mohawk or any other specific receiver. If someone does
>please let me know, I am missing a couple of pages to the manual.
>  I think Heathkit marketed the Marauder as whatever you wanted to think it
>was,  they wanted it both ways,  as a stand alone transmitter kit  and as a
>"match" for the Mohawk.  They got a visual match ok but the coverage and 
>the
>manual say otherwise.
>If I have pissed someone off, I'm glad really. Maybe this will rekindle
>people's interest in a far superior Heathkit product and get them out of 
>the
>closet (the radio's I mean). Also, we can all use our brains and get to the
>truth of the matter and not just accept whatever is written or spoken by 
>our
>Elmers.
>Thank you all for letting me put in my ten cents worth. And now snip away 
>my
>part of this thread.
>73's
>Greg
>WA7LYO
>in sunny Feenix
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry Knapp" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:01 AM
>Subject: [Heathkit] Re: Heathkit HX-10 "Marauder" and matching Receiver
>"Mohawk"
>
>
> > Regardless of the controversy....the Heathkit Mohawk, the RX-1, is the
> > companion receiver Heath marketed for the Apache and the Marauder.  It 
>was
> > their top of the line receiver from 1958-1964.
> >
> > Marketing years:
> > Apache TX-1:     1958-1964
> > Mohawk RX-1:     1958-1964
> > Marauder HX-10:  1962-1965
> >
> > Best to all....73 Larry KC8JX
> > One of the x-Hams at Heathkit
> > Owner of a HX-10 and RX-1
> >
> > --- Glen Zook <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The Mohawk was also sold to be used with the XC-6 and XC-2 6 meter and 2
>meter
> > converters to be compatible with the Seneca (VHF-1) that was styled in 
>the
>same
> > manner as the Mohawk but was a fair bit smaller.
> >
> > The Mohawk was a "satisfactory" SSB receiver back in the late 1950s and
>early
> > 1960s.  It definitely does not compare with later receivers that work 
>very
>well
> > on SSB but are marginal on AM.  When it came out, the "problems" were 
>not
> > "problems" because amateur radio operators did not have better receivers
>with
> > which to compare the Mohawk.
> >
> > The fact that the Marauder functions better on SSB than the Mohawk 
>really
> > doesn't affect the fact that Heath marketed the receiver to be used with
>both
> > the Apache and Marauder.  The Mohawk was basically a 1957 design that 
>was
> > marketed starting in 1958 as was the Apache.  The Marauder was basically 
>a
>1961
> > design which is 4 years newer.  However, the Mohawk remained the "top of
>the
> > line" receiver until the introduction of the SB-300 in the mid-1960s.
> >
> > Therefore, I still maintain that the Mohawk was the "matching" receiver
>for the
> > Marauder.  This is due to the styling, the fact that it did have a 
>product
> > detector in it, and the fact that Heath advertised it referring to the
> > Marauder.
> >
> > You disagree, and that is certainly your privilege. But, considering 
>that
> > starting with the Apache / Mohawk series that Heath provided a matching
> > transmitter and receiver for their "top of the line" amateur radio
>equipment, I
> > still believe that the Mohawk was "the" receiver that was sold to be 
>used
> > with the Marauder and therefore is the "matching" receiver.
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> > --- Greg Mijal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Glen you might remember that the  Heathkit Ads say "styled to match the
> > Marauder and Apache" I agree. When you say sold as the matching 
>receiver,
>I
> > disagree, the Marauder covers 80 - 10.  The Mohawk covers 160 - 10. So I
>gotta
> > say ok in an appearance way but not in performance.  Moreover the 
>Marauder
> > acts like a sweet "band cruiser" and the unmodified Mohawk has problems 
>in
>a
> > couple of areas that are well known. In my mind the two are very much
>different
> > but it is all under the hood.
> >
> >
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