[Heathkit] Re Tale of the Mohawk rx!

Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:48:27 -0700

For goodness sakes! What the hell is the problem here? The Mohawk
receiver was the only receiver that Heathkit made available in the erra
of  either the Apache, the Maurauder or for that matter the older DX-100
series of transmitters.  So that's as close as it's going to get to have
something that is matching! I think that this thread is kind of running
out of steam and it's time to take it as is.
73 from Fern

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Mijal" <[email protected]>
To: "Larry Knapp" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: "mail list Heathkit" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Re: Heathkit HX-10 "Marauder" and matching
Receiver "Mohawk"

> This is my last comment concerning the Marauder/Mohawk stuff.
> I stand by my original statement: There is no matching receiver for
the
> Marauder.
> So much that I did a little more digging into this before someone
decides
> they want to re-write a tiny bit of American manufacturing history.
> "Matching receiver and transmitter"  generally means to a ham that
both
> units will have the same frequency and mode coverage. There doesn't
seem to
> be a redefinition of the phrase from the 50's to now.
> Mohawk/Marauder band coverage do not "match"
> Documentation: "Matching receiver and transmitter" generally means to
a ham
> that the receiver manual will discuss the integration of the
transmitter
> into the "matching" system and vice vesa. There doesn't seem to be any
> changes to that expectation either.
> I went looking thru my Xerox copy of the HX 10 manual and cannot find
a
> reference to the Mohawk or any other specific receiver. If someone
does
> please let me know, I am missing a couple of pages to the manual.
>  I think Heathkit marketed the Marauder as whatever you wanted to
think it
> was,  they wanted it both ways,  as a stand alone transmitter kit  and
as a
> "match" for the Mohawk.  They got a visual match ok but the coverage
and the
> manual say otherwise.
> If I have pissed someone off, I'm glad really. Maybe this will
rekindle
> people's interest in a far superior Heathkit product and get them out
of the
> closet (the radio's I mean). Also, we can all use our brains and get
to the
> truth of the matter and not just accept whatever is written or spoken
by our
> Elmers.
> Thank you all for letting me put in my ten cents worth. And now snip
away my
> part of this thread.
> 73's
> Greg
> WA7LYO
> in sunny Feenix
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Knapp" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:01 AM
> Subject: [Heathkit] Re: Heathkit HX-10 "Marauder" and matching
Receiver
> "Mohawk"
>
>
> > Regardless of the controversy....the Heathkit Mohawk, the RX-1, is
the
> > companion receiver Heath marketed for the Apache and the Marauder.
It was
> > their top of the line receiver from 1958-1964.
> >
> > Marketing years:
> > Apache TX-1:     1958-1964
> > Mohawk RX-1:     1958-1964
> > Marauder HX-10:  1962-1965
> >
> > Best to all....73 Larry KC8JX
> > One of the x-Hams at Heathkit
> > Owner of a HX-10 and RX-1
> >
> > --- Glen Zook <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The Mohawk was also sold to be used with the XC-6 and XC-2 6 meter
and 2
> meter
> > converters to be compatible with the Seneca (VHF-1) that was styled
in the
> same
> > manner as the Mohawk but was a fair bit smaller.
> >
> > The Mohawk was a "satisfactory" SSB receiver back in the late 1950s
and
> early
> > 1960s.  It definitely does not compare with later receivers that
work very
> well
> > on SSB but are marginal on AM.  When it came out, the "problems"
were not
> > "problems" because amateur radio operators did not have better
receivers
> with
> > which to compare the Mohawk.
> >
> > The fact that the Marauder functions better on SSB than the Mohawk
really
> > doesn't affect the fact that Heath marketed the receiver to be used
with
> both
> > the Apache and Marauder.  The Mohawk was basically a 1957 design
that was
> > marketed starting in 1958 as was the Apache.  The Marauder was
basically a
> 1961
> > design which is 4 years newer.  However, the Mohawk remained the
"top of
> the
> > line" receiver until the introduction of the SB-300 in the
mid-1960s.
> >
> > Therefore, I still maintain that the Mohawk was the "matching"
receiver
> for the
> > Marauder.  This is due to the styling, the fact that it did have a
product
> > detector in it, and the fact that Heath advertised it referring to
the
> > Marauder.
> >
> > You disagree, and that is certainly your privilege. But, considering
that
> > starting with the Apache / Mohawk series that Heath provided a
matching
> > transmitter and receiver for their "top of the line" amateur radio
> equipment, I
> > still believe that the Mohawk was "the" receiver that was sold to be
used
> > with the Marauder and therefore is the "matching" receiver.
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> > --- Greg Mijal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Glen you might remember that the  Heathkit Ads say "styled to match
the
> > Marauder and Apache" I agree. When you say sold as the matching
receiver,
> I
> > disagree, the Marauder covers 80 - 10.  The Mohawk covers 160 - 10.
So I
> gotta
> > say ok in an appearance way but not in performance.  Moreover the
Marauder
> > acts like a sweet "band cruiser" and the unmodified Mohawk has
problems in
> a
> > couple of areas that are well known. In my mind the two are very
much
> different
> > but it is all under the hood.
> >
> >
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