From wb1dby at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 15:39:20 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:39:20 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] AB1OC Elect's First Town Hall Meeting Message-ID: For those of you that were unable to attend the first AB1OC Elect Town Hall meeting last night, take a look and listen to this as Fred Kemmerer covers questions that should concern you with the ARRL and New England hams and clubs: https://ab1oc-4-director.org/first-town-hall/ Larry, W1AST HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager From kd1ku at yahoo.com Sat Sep 4 23:26:05 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 23:26:05 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] As of Sept 4th, HCRA Foxbox-1 has gone into hiding over the Labor Day Weekend and into next week! References: <7e638425-1524-67bb-fda8-ed822b4a05b4.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7e638425-1524-67bb-fda8-ed822b4a05b4@yahoo.com> A challenge has been issued to all hunters to find both Foxbox's! Who will be the first to find either FB1 or FB2? As of 1700hrs, September 4th, HCRA Foxbox-1 has gone into hiding over the Labor Day Weekend and into next week! It's about time we get both HCRA Fox Box's back into hiding so hunters from the HCRA are out trying to locate that diabolical fox! HINT, I was able to wake it from its slumber with 50 watts in my mobile from a few areas along Memorial Drive (Rte.33) in Chicopee, MA. FB1 is running one watt into an 18-inch antenna. To activate FB1 go to the 2-meter simplex frequency of 147.550 MHz (PL 100.0Hz), key your transmitter, identify yourself with your call sign then press the DTMF "1". If the Fox can hear you (and you can hear it) you will hear its very distinctive sound. It will transmit for 30 seconds, ID, and then repeat 2 more times before going back to sleep. You can make it transmit as often as necessary to locate it. This is a good opportunity for base stations to get in on the fun. If you can hear the fox please give its signal strength and direction if possible. Please do not reveal its location, just a location where you can hear it from, this then becomes a starting point for the other fox hunters to use. It's just as important for the hunters to know where it CANNOT be heard as well as where it CAN be heard! When you locate the Fox Box you do not have to touch it to claim finding it. Eyeball contact is sufficient with a photo for good measure. The photo should not reveal its location as there might be other hunters out there still trying to find it. It is located less than 500 feet from a safe parking location. Announce it and post a photo on the https://groups.io/g/WMAFoxHunters and the HCRA Facebook Group that you found it along with any comments other than its location. We want to know who has found it and who hasn't. I can tell you it's in a publicly accessible location with nearby safe parking. Getting to FB-1 may require a short walk on mostly flat ground. Please do not post the frequency or PL on social media, websites, or email lists. Note: Larry, W1AST will be hiding FB-2 first thing Sunday morning, so watch for his announcement. ALL Fox Hunters are welcomed to participate! Happy Hunting! Ken, KD1KU From kd1ku at yahoo.com Mon Sep 6 00:11:28 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 00:11:28 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] HCRA September Zero Beat Ready to Download References: Message-ID: Happy Labor Day to everyone! Attached is your September Zero Beat for your viewing enjoyment. You can download it from the HCRA.org website by clicking on one of the links below. To view Zero Beat without downloading it, click link below: http://www.hcra.org/zb/sept21.pdf To download Zero Beat directly click this link below: http://www.hcra.org/zb/download.php?file=june21.pdf 73, Ken ~ KD1KU Zero Beat Editor Join Hampden County Radio Association Visit HCRA.org From wb1dby at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 14:48:44 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 14:48:44 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Friday Meeting Info Message-ID: This Friday is the first meeting of the Fall season for the HCRA. The meeting doors open at 7:00 pm for greet and meet and the meeting will start promptly at 7:30 pm. *We are still meeting on Zoom.* Here is the Zoom info and I hope to see you on Friday! The HCRA is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: How to get started with Amateur Satellites by Gary - AA1UE Time: Sep 10, 2021 07:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81030304266?pwd=NUY3ZmZqRFNPeVRtaDJib3pQSEkzUT09 Meeting ID: 810 3030 4266 Passcode: 766584 One tap mobile +13017158592,,81030304266#,,,,*766584# US (Washington DC) +13126266799,,81030304266#,,,,*766584# US (Chicago) Dial by your location +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 929 205 6099 US (New York) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 810 3030 4266 Passcode: 766584 Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kbctZL4lRK From wb1dby at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 16:54:29 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 16:54:29 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Fox Box 2 is on the Loose! Can YOU Find it? Message-ID: As of 4:30 pm, Tuesday the 7th, Fox Box 2 has Escaped! He is listening on 147.550 with a PL of 151.3. Briefly pressing the #1 key will activate it. I know it can activate it from various points in the town of Longmeadow. FoxBox 2 is in a public location and is a walk up hiding spot. Can you find it? Let's hear from you hunters! From wb1dby at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 21:36:25 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 21:36:25 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] HamXposition Message-ID: If you're going to the Hamxposition this weekend, make sure to wear your HCRA WEAR CLOTHING and show your colors. I hope to be you there on Saturday Larry Ham Radio Op: W1AST From wb1dby at gmail.com Sun Sep 12 10:53:17 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 10:53:17 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Picnic & Radios on Mt. Sugarloaf next Sunday! Message-ID: All members and friends of the clubs (FCARC & HCRA) are welcome. Bring your spouse. It's a fun place for kids too. Dogs are permitted on leash. You might want to come early as parking on the summit is limited. If you need a ride up, give a call on 146.52. Please consider bringing something for the potluck. We'll be cooking burgers and hotdogs. Bacon for the cheeseburgers while it lasts. Also, please bring your favorite beverage (no alcohol). Plenty of ice available. Thanks to Chuck Allen (KC1OSJ) for coordinating (and cooking) the food. PLEASE RSVP TO : bc at councilman.com 73, --Brad W1BCC & Larry W1AST At 652', South Sugarloaf Mountain is one of the most accessible and popular scenic outlooks in the region. Mt Sugarloaf State Reservation Parking at the base is free. Parking on the summit is pay and display: $5 MA plates, $20 non-MA. Late arrivals may find the summit lot full and need a ride up. We'll be monitoring 146.52. We'll be grilling hot dogs and burgers under a roofed pavilion. Please bring your favorite pot-luck dish and folding chair. AC power is available. This is also an operating event. Lots of trees for wire antennas and unobstructed VHF/UHF access to most of the horizon. SOTA enthusiasts might want to activate nearby Pocumtuck Rock . Questions and RSPVs are welcome. Larry, W1AST HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager From wb1dby at gmail.com Sun Sep 12 12:43:47 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 12:43:47 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Picnic & Radios on Mt. Sugarloaf Message-ID: I forgot to add that the time of the event is from 10:30 am through 2:30 pm on Sunday the 19th. Larry, W1AST - HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager From kd1ku at yahoo.com Sun Sep 12 20:28:21 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 20:28:21 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] 10 Meter Net Tomorrow Night! References: Message-ID: The first HCRA 10 meter net of the Fall season is Monday, 9/13 at 7pm on 28.375 usb (Beginning with this net they will be held every Monday at 7pm) Topic: What has everyone been doing this summer? Or whatever else you want to talk about! All licensed hams are encouraged to participate regardless of club affiliation or location 73, Ken ~ KD1KU From wb1dby at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 17:17:26 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 17:17:26 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Outgoing DX Qsl's Message-ID: Just a reminder that the next shipment to the outgoing bureau is planned for September 15th so get your cards ready and let me know! 73 & gud DX! Do not reply, please use the email below. 73 and Gud DX, Paul, NF1G PaulKelliher at comcast.net From wb1dby at gmail.com Tue Sep 14 07:51:04 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:51:04 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Looking For Radio Volunteers Message-ID: WILL BIKE 4 FOOD EVENT VOLUNTEERS NEEDED Amateur Radio Community Seeking Volunteers for The Food Bank of Western Massachusetts September 26 The Amateur radio community will again support and provide communication assistance for The Food Bank of Western Massachusetts fund raising event on Sunday September 26th. Please check out their web site for this very important fund raising event: https://www.foodbankwma.org/events/will-bike-4-food/ They need our assistance in areas that have poor or no cell phone coverage. The routes will require us to cover the area in Vermont, extending through Leyden, Colrain, and Shelburne. In addition there is a small area in Whately and Williamsburg which includes the water stop in Williamsburg. The 100 mile route begins at 7am, but will not arrive in the Vermont area that we cover until sometime after 9am. The Whately area will not need coverage until later in the morning, possible 10am or 11am. These times will be better determined in the next couple weeks. We will need volunteers to cover the above route areas and net control. We also need riders with the Food Bank volunteer route monitors and at the Guilford water stop. Net Control will set up next to the Hatfield Library at the entrance to this event headquarters located at the Lions Club Pavilion 15 Billings Way Hatfield. The KB1BSS repeater in Leyden, Mass on 146.985 Mhz, negative offset, with a PL of 136.5 hz will be used. Please contact me if you can assist with the Will Bike 4 Food Event. My email is: groy773 at gmail.com Thank You, Gary Roy KB1AKU From wb1dby at gmail.com Tue Sep 14 16:45:42 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:45:42 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] WBZ Special Event Station Reminder Message-ID: Hi everyone, Just a reminder that this weekend is the WBZ 100th Anniversary special event! There will be four special event stations in total and a very nice QSL card will be made available whether you work one station or all four. Be sure to get on the air and work these stations this weekend! The event starts at 1300z/9:00 AM EDT September 17 and ends at 0359z September 20/11:59 PM EDT September 19. More info on the event at https://nediv.arrl.org/wbz100/ Larry, W1AST HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager From kd1ku at yahoo.com Wed Sep 15 08:58:25 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 08:58:25 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Zero Beat October Deadline References: Message-ID: Hello HCRA members, I'm running a little late but the deadline for next months Zero Beat was today the 15th. However, if you have anything you would like to submit to Zero Beat please have it to me by the end of the week, Friday, Sept 17th. Thank you 73, Ken ~ KD1KU Zero Beat Editor Join Hampden County Radio Association Visit HCRA.org From ewelljohn188 at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 07:32:24 2021 From: ewelljohn188 at gmail.com (John Ewell) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 07:32:24 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Picnic & Radios on Mt. Sugarloaf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is anyone going to be "activating" sugarloaf? I could use a 2m hunting contact - I have 9 bands, need 1 more. Let me know and Ill do a drive by and call in on 520 thanks, 73, John N1JIE --... ...-- -.. . -. .---- .--- .. . On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 12:45 Larry Krainson wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > I forgot to add that the time of the event is from 10:30 am through 2:30 pm > on Sunday the 19th. > > Larry, W1AST > > > - HCRA President > - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org > - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From wb1dby at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 09:12:23 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:12:23 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Picnic & Radios on Mt. Sugarloaf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We can make that happen John. If not me, then someone. Possibly text me and I'll find someone. Larry, W1AST - HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 7:32 AM John Ewell wrote: > Is anyone going to be "activating" sugarloaf? I could use a 2m hunting > contact - I have 9 bands, need 1 more. > Let me know and Ill do a drive by and call in on 520 > thanks, 73, John N1JIE > > --... ...-- -.. . -. .---- .--- .. . > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 12:45 Larry Krainson wrote: > >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> I forgot to add that the time of the event is from 10:30 am through 2:30 >> pm >> on Sunday the 19th. >> >> Larry, W1AST >> >> >> - HCRA President >> - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org >> - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > From wb1dby at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 09:32:14 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:32:14 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Picnic & Radios - Mini FoxHunt Message-ID: Bring your foxhunt gear to Sunday's Picnic & Radios. I plan on hiding a foxbox on the mountain somewhere. Foxbox 2 will be on 147.550 with a PL of 151.3. Pressing #1 on your keypad for a moment will activate the foxbox. Take a picture of the foxbox or one with you in it and find me (W1AST) and show me. See you Sunday. Larry, W1AST HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager From wb1dby at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 09:30:05 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:30:05 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Candidates forum for New England Division Director Message-ID: This is the video from the New England Division Director candidates forum from the HamXposition last Saturday. The questions were unknown from the candidates. only the moderator knew them. There were about 60 people in the audience watching. Who would you vote for? https://youtu.be/LeyDAGrPC6w Larry, W1AST - HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager From ewelljohn188 at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 13:15:29 2021 From: ewelljohn188 at gmail.com (John Ewell) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 17:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an actualchoice in candidates for our region. 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background is in powergeneration, not electronics). We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high altitude balloon tracking. Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents and ideas. Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive and diverse future. If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. Sincerely, John Ewell N1JIE n1jie at arrl.net From nu1oscar at aol.com Sat Sep 18 14:59:02 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 18:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1014383685.1164837.1631991542654@mail.yahoo.com> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him.?? This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen.? This is 2021, not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked to about ham radio have told me.? Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen about 5 years ago.? I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a spouse. As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or fully retired.? They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a candidate who thinks that's possible. I'm voting for Tom, K1KI.? He's done a great job with the New England QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very active ham for decades.? 73, Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Ewell To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an actualchoice in candidates for our region. 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background is in powergeneration, not electronics). We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high altitude balloon tracking. Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents and ideas. Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive and diverse future. If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. Sincerely, John Ewell N1JIE n1jie at arrl.net ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From marciasteger at yahoo.com Sat Sep 18 16:17:11 2021 From: marciasteger at yahoo.com (Ma S) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:17:11 -0700 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <1014383685.1164837.1631991542654@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1014383685.1164837.1631991542654@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6C2718D1-0A13-48F4-86ED-39E267D92A11@yahoo.com> NU1O, Dude?. ouch. -KB1WEP (Female Extra) > On Sep 18, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA wrote: > > ?______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From votrailblazer at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 17:18:05 2021 From: votrailblazer at gmail.com (V. Oquendo) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 17:18:05 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <6C2718D1-0A13-48F4-86ED-39E267D92A11@yahoo.com> References: <1014383685.1164837.1631991542654@mail.yahoo.com> <6C2718D1-0A13-48F4-86ED-39E267D92A11@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ditto Ma S. W1IRL, female extra. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 4:17 PM Ma S via HCRA wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > NU1O, > > Dude?. ouch. > > -KB1WEP > (Female Extra) > > > On Sep 18, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < > hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > > > > ?______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into > that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England > QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project > and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a > very active ham for decades. > > 73, > > Chris NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Ewell > > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > > > ______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the > field. He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire > that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best > speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, > and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > John Ewell N1JIE > > > > n1jie at arrl.net > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From mjacobydc at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 17:51:30 2021 From: mjacobydc at gmail.com (mjacobydc at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 17:51:30 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am a woman who was interested in ham radio. Not because I have a spouse that is into it. It was because I was interested in learning about it myself. I have gone to some meetings. It?s all the white guys hanging out. They barely say hello. They certainly have not gone out of their way to be welcoming. I have done some of the projects that the club sponsored. I was sitting with a couple other white men but was lead to a different table. Yes it was with the other women in the club. It is this type of behavior that really pushes people away from getting into ham radio. Maybe our behavior is killing the interest in ham radio. Just something to think about. Melissa Jacoby Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:23 PM, V. Oquendo wrote: > > ?______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Ditto Ma S. > > W1IRL, female extra. > >> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 4:17 PM Ma S via HCRA wrote: >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> NU1O, >> >> Dude?. ouch. >> >> -KB1WEP >> (Female Extra) >> >>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < >> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: >>> >>> ?______________________________________________ >>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>> ______________________________________________ >>> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into >> that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. >>> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think >> most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, >> not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our >> hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked >> to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen >> about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air >> or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a >> year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support >> from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. >> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, >> either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant >> other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a >> spouse. >>> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with >> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or >> fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, >> That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past >> decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the >> hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's >> simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a >> candidate who thinks that's possible. >>> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England >> QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project >> and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a >> very active ham for decades. >>> 73, >>> Chris NU1O >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John Ewell >>> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer >>> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm >>> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election >>> >>> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand >> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. >> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very >> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an >> actualchoice in candidates for our region. >>> >>> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, >> K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the >> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. >>> >>> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my >> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and >> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We >> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite >> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able >> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background >> is in powergeneration, not electronics). >>> >>> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he >> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high >> altitude balloon tracking. >>> >>> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the >> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto >> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for >> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs >> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, >> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and >> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents >> and ideas. >>> >>> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the >> traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at >> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and >> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. >>> >>> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the >> field. He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire >> that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best >> speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, >> and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. >>> >>> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I >> didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October >> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose >> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive >> and diverse future. >>> >>> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> John Ewell N1JIE >>> >>> n1jie at arrl.net >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> HCRA mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> HCRA mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From kd1ku at yahoo.com Sat Sep 18 18:01:29 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 18:01:29 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30760b25-4539-48e3-adf6-67dc8eca796d@yahoo.com> I agree 100%, women should be welcomed no differently than a white male! Nothing matters but the interest in ham radio! ?Get BlueMail for Android ? On Sep 18, 2021, 5:52 PM, at 5:52 PM, mjacobydc at gmail.com wrote: >______________________________________________ >-------Hampden County Radio Association------- >-----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >______________________________________________ >I am a woman who was interested in ham radio. Not because I have a >spouse that is into it. It was because I was interested in learning >about it myself. >I have gone to some meetings. It?s all the white guys hanging out. They >barely say hello. They certainly have not gone out of their way to be >welcoming. I have done some of the projects that the club sponsored. I >was sitting with a couple other white men but was lead to a different >table. Yes it was with the other women in the club. It is this type of >behavior that really pushes people away from getting into ham radio. >Maybe our behavior is killing the interest in ham radio. Just something >to think about. > >Melissa Jacoby > > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:23 PM, V. Oquendo >wrote: >> >> ?______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> Ditto Ma S. >> >> W1IRL, female extra. >> >>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 4:17 PM Ma S via HCRA >wrote: >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>> ______________________________________________ >>> NU1O, >>> >>> Dude?. ouch. >>> >>> -KB1WEP >>> (Female Extra) >>> >>>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < >>> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> ?______________________________________________ >>>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby >into >>> that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for >him. >>>> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I >think >>> most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is >2021, >>> not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they >view our >>> hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've >talked >>> to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a >teen >>> about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on >the air >>> or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted >about a >>> year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of >support >>> from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and >others.. >>> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that >happening, >>> either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a >significant >>> other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to >please a >>> spouse. >>>> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed >with >>> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement >or >>> fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a >station, >>> That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the >past >>> decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually >joining the >>> hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. >It's >>> simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a >>> candidate who thinks that's possible. >>>> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New >England >>> QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a >project >>> and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's >been a >>> very active ham for decades. >>>> 73, >>>> Chris NU1O >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: John Ewell >>>> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>>> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer >>>> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm >>>> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector >election >>>> >>>> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand >>> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. >>> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them >are very >>> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to >have an >>> actualchoice in candidates for our region. >>>> >>>> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position >(FredHopengarten, >>> K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC >is the >>> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. >>>> >>>> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get >my >>> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, >and >>> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his >hamshack. We >>> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite >>> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors >was able >>> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my >background >>> is in powergeneration, not electronics). >>>> >>>> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses >that he >>> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and >high >>> altitude balloon tracking. >>>> >>>> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in >the >>> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto >>> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for >>> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio >clubs >>> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and >involvement, >>> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his >club, and >>> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their >talents >>> and ideas. >>>> >>>> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond >the >>> traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and >startlooking at >>> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung >and >>> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. >>>> >>>> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the >>> field. He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to >inspire >>> that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe >best >>> speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals >forhimself, >>> and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. >>>> >>>> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis >out. I >>> didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning >October >>> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto >choose >>> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to >anactive >>> and diverse future. >>>> >>>> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> John Ewell N1JIE >>>> >>>> n1jie at arrl.net >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> HCRA mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> HCRA mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> HCRA mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >______________________________________________________________ >HCRA mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From steve at ka1stv.com Sat Sep 18 18:56:54 2021 From: steve at ka1stv.com (Steve KA1STV) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 18:56:54 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <30760b25-4539-48e3-adf6-67dc8eca796d@yahoo.com> References: <30760b25-4539-48e3-adf6-67dc8eca796d@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <35018686-175F-4B58-ABC7-2BF8BD7DB78D@ka1stv.com> Well said, Ken! 73, Steve KA1STV > On Sep 18, 2021, at 6:02 PM, Ken, KD1KU via HCRA wrote: > > ?______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > I agree 100%, women should be welcomed no differently than a white male! Nothing matters but the interest in ham radio! > > ?Get BlueMail for Android ? > >> On Sep 18, 2021, 5:52 PM, at 5:52 PM, mjacobydc at gmail.com wrote: >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> I am a woman who was interested in ham radio. Not because I have a >> spouse that is into it. It was because I was interested in learning >> about it myself. >> I have gone to some meetings. It?s all the white guys hanging out. They >> barely say hello. They certainly have not gone out of their way to be >> welcoming. I have done some of the projects that the club sponsored. I >> was sitting with a couple other white men but was lead to a different >> table. Yes it was with the other women in the club. It is this type of >> behavior that really pushes people away from getting into ham radio. >> Maybe our behavior is killing the interest in ham radio. Just something >> to think about. >> >> Melissa Jacoby >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:23 PM, V. Oquendo >> wrote: >>> >>> ?______________________________________________ >>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>> ______________________________________________ >>> Ditto Ma S. >>> >>> W1IRL, female extra. >>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 4:17 PM Ma S via HCRA >> wrote: >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> NU1O, >>>> >>>> Dude?. ouch. >>>> >>>> -KB1WEP >>>> (Female Extra) >>>> >>>>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < >>>> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?______________________________________________ >>>>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>>>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby >> into >>>> that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for >> him. >>>>> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I >> think >>>> most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is >> 2021, >>>> not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they >> view our >>>> hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've >> talked >>>> to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a >> teen >>>> about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on >> the air >>>> or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted >> about a >>>> year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of >> support >>>> from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and >> others.. >>>> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that >> happening, >>>> either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a >> significant >>>> other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to >> please a >>>> spouse. >>>>> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed >> with >>>> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement >> or >>>> fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a >> station, >>>> That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the >> past >>>> decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually >> joining the >>>> hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. >> It's >>>> simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a >>>> candidate who thinks that's possible. >>>>> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New >> England >>>> QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a >> project >>>> and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's >> been a >>>> very active ham for decades. >>>>> 73, >>>>> Chris NU1O >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: John Ewell >>>>> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>>>> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer >>>>> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm >>>>> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>>>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector >> election >>>>> >>>>> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand >>>> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. >>>> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them >> are very >>>> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to >> have an >>>> actualchoice in candidates for our region. >>>>> >>>>> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position >> (FredHopengarten, >>>> K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC >> is the >>>> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. >>>>> >>>>> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get >> my >>>> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, >> and >>>> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his >> hamshack. We >>>> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite >>>> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors >> was able >>>> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my >> background >>>> is in powergeneration, not electronics). >>>>> >>>>> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses >> that he >>>> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and >> high >>>> altitude balloon tracking. >>>>> >>>>> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in >> the >>>> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto >>>> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for >>>> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio >> clubs >>>> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and >> involvement, >>>> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his >> club, and >>>> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their >> talents >>>> and ideas. >>>>> >>>>> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond >> the >>>> traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and >> startlooking at >>>> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung >> and >>>> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. >>>>> >>>>> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the >>>> field. He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to >> inspire >>>> that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe >> best >>>> speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals >> forhimself, >>>> and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. >>>>> >>>>> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis >> out. I >>>> didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning >> October >>>> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto >> choose >>>> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to >> anactive >>>> and diverse future. >>>>> >>>>> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> John Ewell N1JIE >>>>> >>>>> n1jie at arrl.net >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> HCRA mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> HCRA mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> HCRA mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> HCRA mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From k1nz at arrl.net Sat Sep 18 19:18:43 2021 From: k1nz at arrl.net (Nick Maslon - K1NZ) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 19:18:43 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <1014383685.1164837.1631991542654@mail.yahoo.com> References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> <1014383685.1164837.1631991542654@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From rebeccaaddison at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 19:37:15 2021 From: rebeccaaddison at gmail.com (Rebecca Addison) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 19:37:15 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> <1014383685.1164837.1631991542654@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: K1BKY here. I did join the hobby because of my spouse. If he gets activated for EmCom stuff I want to be able to communicate. However it wasn't until we went to Dayton in Xenia that I saw people other than old white guys enjoying the hobby. It was after that that I decided to get licensed and I went straight up to my Amateur Extra in less than a year. My spouse may have motivated me but I stay in it for my own reasons. I am also a VE for Laurel and ARRL. I always enjoy seeing young hams pass their tests even if my own teen isn't interested. None of us who were targeted for not being old white guys should have to defend ourselves for being in the hobby. The flak we get that Nick mentioned is stuff I have heard before too. It gets old fast. Let's welcome the digital modes, the young, and the non-white people to the table instead of scaring them away. 73 Rebecca, K1BKY On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 7:19 PM Nick Maslon - K1NZ wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Chris, > > This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of > the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support > I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I > most likely wouldn't still be a ham. > > Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm > not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I > should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a > blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. > These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the > hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. > > Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital > modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth > demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For > example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was > introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered > digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. > > We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger > demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to > change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. > > Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't > speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some > feathers. > > This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and > enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do > doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. > > 73, > Nick K1NZ > > > On the Droid. > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < > hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > > > ______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, > > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view > our > > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've > talked > > to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > > about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and > others.. > > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that > happening, > > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to > please a > > spouse. > > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > > fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a > station, > > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining > the > > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > > candidate who thinks that's possible. > > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO > > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project > and > > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a > very > > active ham for decades. > > 73, > > Chris NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Ewell > > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > > > ______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are > very > > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > K1VR > > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was > able > > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my > background > > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high > > altitude balloon tracking. > > > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio > clubs > > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, > and > > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > > and ideas. > > > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > > traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking > at > > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the > field. > > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best > speakers > > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and > has a > > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > > didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning > October > > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > > and diverse future. > > > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > John Ewell N1JIE > > > > n1jie at arrl.net > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From nu1oscar at aol.com Sat Sep 18 20:14:21 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> <1014383685.1164837.1631991542654@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1525165515.1219747.1632010461325@mail.yahoo.com> Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW.? You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby.? In essence, that's all I wrote.? Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts.? Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen.? This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me.? Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago.? I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired.? They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI.? He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris? NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From dcbourq at juno.com Sat Sep 18 21:08:02 2021 From: dcbourq at juno.com (John Bourque) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 01:08:02 GMT Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Message-ID: <20210918.210802.4599.2@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Plans starting as low as $6.95 per month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag695&promoCode=A34454 From rich at powder-hound.com Sun Sep 19 00:53:48 2021 From: rich at powder-hound.com (Rich) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 21:53:48 -0700 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <1525165515.1219747.1632010461325@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1525165515.1219747.1632010461325@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Isn?t it cool how this hobby gives everyone an unbriddled voice and a discrete identifier that lets licensees spread idiotic, ignorant, and not well-constructed ideas from the comfort of their homes? Homes that are also tied to that callsign thingy? It is hams NU1O like that are the achilles heel of this hobby. As a middle-aged white guy myself, I?m proud to say My wife is my control op! Truth be told, she increases my privelages on the the air and in life?like most hams do for other people. As an example, we are currently volunteering our time with an ARES group at a large race event in northern Nevada this weekend. Given the global context of radio operation, if anyone thinks there is a ?face? of amateur radio, this person is missing a large part of the puzzle. Especially if this person is skilled and active in the hobby. In a former life, amateur radio was incredibly useful for Marcia and I. It was central to our lifestyle for many years, but through an amateur radio community we were lucky to become involved with, radio became so much more then just useful. It was a rather remarkable melting pot of people. A shining example which will always be an example of what a radio club should look, feel, and sound like. Having this amateur radio community to compliment who natural brilliance and curiosity, she became quite the inscessant recruiter. For years her common refrain in life was, ?this would be easier if you were a ham!?. No joke!!! Today, My wife and I are both VE?s. We?ve actively recruited over 30 candidates into the hobby. Some operators have become more active on the bands then we?ve ever been. -Young, old, people of different races and ethnicities. Men, women, and children. Recruitment and rention is easy when you Share the hobby and make it accessible and fun and interesting. Chris, your arguments (excuses) for why younger people might not be interested in radio is foolish at best. As anecdote, your incorrect observation of human curiosities would mean a modern person, young or old, might never bother to learn to ride a bicycle because there are so many other quicker, easier modes of ground transportation. Your thinking is nonsensical and simply lazy. I?ve often said and firmly believe the amateur radio community is TERRIBLE when it comes to recruitment. Chris, I believe you and I could agree on some broad ideas surrounding ineffeciencies in the effort and expense of recruiting but I would prefer doing so in a constructive fashion. Seems more productive. But, even Despite all the difficulties the community (including the ARRL) has with recruitment efforts, Chris, I think you?ve provided (unintentionally. I hope) a fine example of what so often repels people from the hobby. Sometimes even those who are already issued a callsign. Believe it or not, difficulty in recruitment has nothing to do with spinning the VFO..as antiquated as you make that sound. Instead, your dismissive, disgruntled, and homogenous idealogy is the only real antiquity preventing participation. It is unfortunate and I despise how folks who share your thinking easily and effortlessely detract from an otherwise fantastic community that, in reality, is filled with a great diversity of people?even if you are limited in your ability or willingness to see it. At the end of the day, you make us all look bad. While Marcia and I moved to Hampden County over four years ago, we?ve not joined a local club because I?ve had more then a few interactions with local operators that were similiar in tone to your obnoxious message. These instances have occured online, over the air, and in-person. License radio amateurs now for ten years, too often we meet people like you and wonder if the community is consistent with who we are as people. While we feel a bit ashamed and embarassed sometimes, we have too many examples of how this hobby has impacted our lives. Guess what? For us, Radiating RF is only a fun side-effect of promoting a fun and interesting hobby full of fun and interesting people who may or may not fit a stereotype. NU1O, Unfortunately it appears you are emitting a lot of QRM. Chris, I recommend installing some filters so we can all work you better in the future. Maybe something that can clear up that aweful intolerance we are all hearing. For now, I?m standing-by in case you attempt to re-transmit your message. I know you had traffic worth sharing, but your signal was awfully noisy. Try again? -Rich Qrz.com/db/kb1wdw > On Sep 18, 2021, at 17:14, Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA wrote: > ?______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. > My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ > Cc: HCRA Email List > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Chris, > > This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of > the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support > I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I > most likely wouldn't still be a ham. > > Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm > not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I > should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a > blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. > These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the > hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. > > Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital > modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth > demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For > example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was > introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered > digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. > > We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger > demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to > change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. > > Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't > speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some > feathers. > > This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and > enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do > doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. > > 73, > Nick K1NZ > > > On the Droid. > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < > hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that >> of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. >> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think >> most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, >> not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our >> hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked >> to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen >> about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air >> or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a >> year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support >> from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. >> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, >> either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant >> other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a >> spouse. >> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with >> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or >> fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, >> That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past >> decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the >> hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's >> simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a >> candidate who thinks that's possible. >> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO >> Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and >> he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very >> active ham for decades. >> 73, >> Chris NU1O >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Ewell >> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer >> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm >> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> >> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election >> >> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand >> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. >> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very >> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an >> actualchoice in candidates for our region. >> >> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR >> is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the >> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. >> >> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my >> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and >> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We >> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite >> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able >> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background >> is in powergeneration, not electronics). >> >> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he >> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high >> altitude balloon tracking. >> >> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the >> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto >> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for >> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs >> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, >> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and >> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents >> and ideas. >> >> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the >> traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at >> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and >> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. >> >> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. >> He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that >> wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers >> I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a >> history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. >> >> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I >> didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October >> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose >> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive >> and diverse future. >> >> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> John Ewell N1JIE >> >> n1jie at arrl.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From rich at powder-hound.com Sun Sep 19 00:54:59 2021 From: rich at powder-hound.com (Rich) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 21:54:59 -0700 Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <20210918.210802.4599.2@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20210918.210802.4599.2@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <2FD77E4C-CDB8-43DC-8B82-FA36BC218121@powder-hound.com> Imma get some popcorn?.hoorah! > On Sep 18, 2021, at 18:10, John Bourque wrote: > > ?______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. > My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ > Cc: HCRA Email List > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Chris, > > This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of > the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support > I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I > most likely wouldn't still be a ham. > > Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm > not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I > should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a > blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. > These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the > hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. > > Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital > modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth > demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For > example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was > introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered > digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. > > We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger > demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to > change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. > > Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't > speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some > feathers. > > This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and > enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do > doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. > > 73, > Nick K1NZ > > > On the Droid. > >> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < >> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that >> of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. >> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think >> most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, >> not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our >> hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked >> to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen >> about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air >> or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a >> year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support >> from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. >> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, >> either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant >> other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a >> spouse. >> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with >> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or >> fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, >> That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past >> decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the >> hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's >> simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a >> candidate who thinks that's possible. >> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO >> Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and >> he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very >> active ham for decades. >> 73, >> Chris NU1O >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Ewell >> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer >> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm >> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> >> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election >> >> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand >> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. >> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very >> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an >> actualchoice in candidates for our region. >> >> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR >> is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the >> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. >> >> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my >> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and >> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We >> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite >> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able >> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background >> is in powergeneration, not electronics). >> >> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he >> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high >> altitude balloon tracking. >> >> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the >> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto >> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for >> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs >> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, >> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and >> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents >> and ideas. >> >> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the >> traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at >> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and >> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. >> >> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. >> He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that >> wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers >> I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a >> history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. >> >> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I >> didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October >> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose >> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive >> and diverse future. >> >> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> John Ewell N1JIE >> >> n1jie at arrl.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Choose to be safer online. > Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. > Plans starting as low as $6.95 per month.* > https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag695&promoCode=A34454 > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From rangerfriday at gmail.com Sun Sep 19 07:49:25 2021 From: rangerfriday at gmail.com (Aaron (KF1G) Addison) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 07:49:25 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <2FD77E4C-CDB8-43DC-8B82-FA36BC218121@powder-hound.com> References: <20210918.210802.4599.2@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> <2FD77E4C-CDB8-43DC-8B82-FA36BC218121@powder-hound.com> Message-ID: Hello, I am Aaron Addison, current president of FCARC, I am also a Technical Specialist for the ARRL and seeing some of the emails today. I want to offer anyone who for any reason needs any help with radio to reach out to me, without regard for age, race, gender or any other characteristic. I may not be able to help you with something, but I will do my best to find someone who can. Radio is an amazing hobby, with a seemingly endless number of ways to enjoy it. And I personally want to make sure anyone and everyone is welcome in this amazing hobby. Please do not hesitate to contact me, Aaron Addison KF1G rangerfriday at gmail.com On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:55 AM Rich wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Imma get some popcorn?.hoorah! > > > On Sep 18, 2021, at 18:10, John Bourque wrote: > > > > ?______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express > this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years > active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely > express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't > agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now > get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB > > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) > > > > ______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or > put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't > write a word about the things you referred to. > > My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not > waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. > In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't > handle actual facts. > > Chris NU1O > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ > > Cc: HCRA Email List > > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm > > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > > > ______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > Chris, > > > > This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one > of > > the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the > support > > I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I > > most likely wouldn't still be a ham. > > > > Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm > > not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I > > should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a > > blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. > > These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the > > hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. > > > > Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, > digital > > modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth > > demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For > > example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was > > introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered > > digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. > > > > We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger > > demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to > > change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. > > > > Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I > can't > > speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some > > feathers. > > > > This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and > > enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do > > doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. > > > > 73, > > Nick K1NZ > > > > > > On the Droid. > > > >> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < > >> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > >> ______________________________________________ > >> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into > that > >> of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > >> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > >> most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is > 2021, > >> not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view > our > >> hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've > talked > >> to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a > teen > >> about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the > air > >> or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > >> year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > >> from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and > others.. > >> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that > happening, > >> either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a > significant > >> other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to > please a > >> spouse. > >> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > >> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > >> fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a > station, > >> That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the > past > >> decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining > the > >> hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > >> simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > >> candidate who thinks that's possible. > >> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England > QSO > >> Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project > and > >> he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a > very > >> active ham for decades. > >> 73, > >> Chris NU1O > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: John Ewell > >> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > >> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > >> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > >> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > >> ______________________________________________ > >> > >> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > >> > >> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > >> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > >> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are > very > >> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have > an > >> actualchoice in candidates for our region. > >> > >> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > K1VR > >> is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > >> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > >> > >> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > >> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > >> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. > We > >> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > >> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was > able > >> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my > background > >> is in powergeneration, not electronics). > >> > >> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > >> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school > contacts,and high > >> altitude balloon tracking. > >> > >> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > >> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > >> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > >> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio > clubs > >> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > >> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, > and > >> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > >> and ideas. > >> > >> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > >> traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and > startlooking at > >> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > >> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > >> > >> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the > field. > >> He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > >> wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best > speakers > >> I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and > has a > >> history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > >> > >> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > >> didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. > So,beginning October > >> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > >> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to > anactive > >> and diverse future. > >> > >> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> John Ewell N1JIE > >> > >> n1jie at arrl.net > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> HCRA mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> HCRA mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Choose to be safer online. > > Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. > > Plans starting as low as $6.95 per month.* > > > https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag695&promoCode=A34454 > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From nu1oscar at aol.com Sun Sep 19 08:51:44 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <20210918.210802.4599.2@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20210918.210802.4599.2@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <829070917.1257426.1632055904163@mail.yahoo.com> The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote.? All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box.? Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW.? You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby.? In essence, that's all I wrote.? Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen.? This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me.? Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago.? I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired.? They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI.? He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris? NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Plans starting as low as $6.95 per month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag695&promoCode=A34454 ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From dcbourq at juno.com Sun Sep 19 09:08:56 2021 From: dcbourq at juno.com (John Bourque) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 13:08:56 GMT Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Message-ID: <20210919.090856.794.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> You're 100% correct, Chris. That is why I wrote "express your "One person; One vote" opinion at the ballot box" in my email response last evening. We have 3 and only three candidates to choose from. If the issues matter all that much, everyone should make theirvoting choice very carefully. Otherwise, talk is cheap. John, WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Plans starting as low as $6.95 per month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag695&promoCode=A34454 ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag995&promoCode=A23457 From w1rm at comcast.net Sun Sep 19 09:37:10 2021 From: w1rm at comcast.net (w1rm at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 09:37:10 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301d7ad5b$735553c0$59fffb40$@comcast.net> I missed the presentation at the convention, so I was grateful to have the chance to watch it on YouTube. I think all three candidates made good points and arguments as to why they were the best candidate. Many of you don't know me as I am a new member of the club. I did make it to FD but given the long distance, I attend meetings via zoom. I've been a ham since 1956, making me an Old Timer. I'm 10 years away from hitting 75 years in ham radio. So, I've been there, seen that, done that (well not all of it, but a lot). My focus started with traffic handling as K2UTV. I moved to Connecticut from NY in 1964 to work at ARRL Hq for W1NJM and became W1BGD. I expanded my traffic handling into contesting and DXing. I'll not brag about my accomplishments here only that I have plenty. I find all three candidates with compelling points as to why they are the best. But I also find the AB1OC seems to be Johnny One Note with his emphasis on school kids. While I don't have any kids, my wife runs a cat shelter, and she has plenty of high school volunteers. You can't believe the stress these youngsters are under to achieve, be it school, outside activities, etc. And then there's college prep. As they grow, they change, loose interest in some things, acquire interest in others. I think the focus for attracting new and returning hams needs to be much broader. K1KI is a seasoned veteran of the board. He knows the players; he's been on practically every committee and held all positions save President. Tom doesn't just know how to get things done in this environment; he HAS gotten things done. If we elect a new person to the board, they come in at the bottom of the totem pole. Except Tom who, in spite of being newly elected, has strong relationships with the current directors and would be in a good position to make things happen. For personal reasons, I have not commented on K1VR. I've known Fred for 50 years and while he has done some good things for ham radio, I don't feel that he is the best candidate to be our director. I'm supporting Tom. I signed his petition and will vote for him. Pete Chamalian, W1RM W1rm at comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of John Ewell Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 1:15 PM To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an actualchoice in candidates for our region. 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background is in powergeneration, not electronics). We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high altitude balloon tracking. Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents and ideas. Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive and diverse future. If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. Sincerely, John Ewell N1JIE n1jie at arrl.net ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From gary.fields at northcomm.net Sun Sep 19 10:13:22 2021 From: gary.fields at northcomm.net (gary.fields at northcomm.net) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 10:13:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Message-ID: <1632060802.61581757@apps.rackspace.com> Going to try sending this again. If you get multiple copies of this, I apologize. I am in an area with extremely poor internet. I have worked closely with 2 out of the 3 people who are running for the position. ? Having spent a good part of my life in the Town of Suffield, and are capable of tracing my family roots back to the 1660's. There is a reason that Tom K1KK was a one term First Selectmen. He spent most of his term pushing threw an upgrade to the towns Police Dept radio system. He let critical needs of the town go unresolved to push through this system that only put money into Motorola's pocket, even today. All told over $3 million dollars has been spent of he towns money. When the history is written I am sure Tom will go down as one of less than stellar First Selectmen, and there has been some winners! ? While Director of Engineering for a High School STEM Robotics program, I have worked with Fred AB1OC on numerous occasions.? While I had some fundamental disagreements with him, I could never fault his commitment to the program or the students. When you work in a national program such as this, you get to see various mentors, and how the kids react to them. I will say this, his students looked up to him with respect, and he treated them with the same respect. ? If our hobby is going to survive and grow, we need to embrace all members of our society, both young and old. Some members of amateur radio seem to have issues with younger or new members who for one reason or another does not measure up to whatever standard they use. Instead of criticizing, let's mentor them, help them, and not turn them off. Yes, some will stay and be active, and some will lose interest. But let's make sure they don't lose interest because they are met with negative attitudes, there are plenty of them in life as there is, let's not add to them. I for one can tell you...Life is too short! ? Gary W1MOW ? From nu1oscar at aol.com Sun Sep 19 11:16:15 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <20210919.090856.794.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> References: <20210919.090856.794.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <833474479.1277435.1632064575158@mail.yahoo.com> During the debate, it was revealed the ARRL's endowment is now $40 million.? Not long ago the endowment was $15 million but the bull market in the equities market over the past decade has no doubt been a factor in the big increase.? I've seen this with many not-for-profit organizations; the endowments just grow larger and larger much like a company or billionaire's net worth. The endowment becomes almost sacrosanct.? Why does the ARRL need an endowment of $40 million? With just a 5% return per annum, the endowment will be over $60 million in a decade.? Is the purpose of the endowment to just see how much money the ARRL can accumulate or is it supposed to be used to help the hobby grow? If the ARRL is really going to mirror the demographics of society at large, there needs to be a way for those who can't afford a station of their own to get actual on-air time with a real ham station. I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states.? Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station.? A basic station could be built for under $10,000.? I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn.? Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate.? I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model.? These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby.? It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby.? I expect many at the ARRL to resist such an idea, but does the ARRL really need a cash cushion of $40 million?? How much of an endowment is enough before some of the money is actually used on projects to bring new hams into the hobby?? Frankly, I'm getting tired of continually watching the endowment grow larger and larger when the hobby really needs a project as I have proposed. Chris? NU1O hcra at mailman.qth.net -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 9:08 am Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ You're 100% correct, Chris. That is why I wrote "express your "One person; One vote" opinion at the ballot box" in my email response last evening. We have 3 and only three candidates to choose from. If the issues matter all that much, everyone should make theirvoting choice very carefully. Otherwise, talk is cheap. John, WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re:? ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote.? All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box.? Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW.? You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby.? In essence, that's all I wrote.? Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen.? This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me.? Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago.? I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired.? They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI.? He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris? NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. 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Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag995&promoCode=A23457 ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From wb1dby at gmail.com Sun Sep 19 17:42:00 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 17:42:00 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: OK Folks. I posted the link to the debate video hoping everyone would watch it and make a decision as to who they would vote for in the upcoming ARRL New England Division election. The ballots go out October 1st. Many of you know me. I am the current president of the HCRA, am an ARRL life member and also a member of FCARC and BARS (in eastern MA). Many of you also know I am a staunch supporter of AB1OC for the New England Division Director. Making this decision was not quickly done. I decided by what AB1OC (Fred Kemmerer) stands for and what he has accomplished with the Nashua club. We all want someone who not only supports getting students involved but also works hard on keeping newly licensed hams of all ages involved in the hobby. Fred Kemmerer has put in place solutions that work. He wants to share those solutions with the clubs and hams in New England and eventually all of the USA. They are solutions that work, period. Fred Kemmerer has the ideas and energy to make this happen. His ideas for bringing new people into ham radio, for keeping newly licensed hams in ham radio, for creating a positive image of ham radio are sound and spot on. Simply said they work. It's this kind of energy and dedication to our hobby that we all want. If you watch the debate video, you'll see his opponent K1VR talk about himself. K1VR he has no vision of the future of ham radio in New England or anywhere without himself being in front of everyone getting credit for things. You won't ever hear him mention New England hams or clubs. K1VR has had this position for nearly 3 years now. How come we're only seeing him in public now that it's election time? Tom Frenaye was the director for some 20 years just prior to K1VR. When he speaks, he talks about his accomplishments of 15-20 years ago. Nothing K1KI says is current or again pertains to hams and clubs in New England. Tom's time has come and gone and he has lost touch with everything New England ham radio-wise other than the New England Qso Party which is his baby that he created years ago. When K1KI visited the HCRA Field Day this past June, he asked where KK1W was and why wasn't the president of the HCRA around and at his Field Day. KK1W has not been the HCRA President for 7 years now. Is that someone who is in touch with the goings on of the present. To me, I feel he should retire and let AB1OC step up and make a difference. I urge everyone to go to: https://ab1oc-4-director.org/creating-future/ and really read what Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC is all about, what he stands for, what he has accomplished so far and what he can accomplish for all of us in the future. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC has a 100 day plan. He will be holding Town Hall type Zoom meetings where all are welcome to join and ask questions and discuss ideas. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC will be held accountable for everything he promises. If three years from now, you can say Fred Kemmerer accomplished nothing like K1VR has done the past three years, then vote him out. For now, he is the BEST thing that New England has to represent ham radio ops and clubs. You don't want to deny those ideas, accomplishments and energy. You want to VOTE Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC into office as the New England Division Director and let him make a difference for us all. Larry, W1AST HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM John Ewell wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From smpvs at hotmail.com Sun Sep 19 20:43:38 2021 From: smpvs at hotmail.com (Steve Berian) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 00:43:38 +0000 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi folks this is Steve Berian KC1KEZ. I attended the meeting up in Marlborough and I saw all three candidates. frankly Fred Kremmmer was the only one who gave an uplifting, forward-thinking presentation. I also learned that evening that Fred is an Eagle Scout and I as a Scouter for 60 years, am positively biased towards Eagle Scouts. So Fred has my vote! Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Larry Krainson Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 5:42:00 PM To: John Ewell Cc: HCRA at mailman.qth.net ; AB1OC Fred Kemmerer Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ OK Folks. I posted the link to the debate video hoping everyone would watch it and make a decision as to who they would vote for in the upcoming ARRL New England Division election. The ballots go out October 1st. Many of you know me. I am the current president of the HCRA, am an ARRL life member and also a member of FCARC and BARS (in eastern MA). Many of you also know I am a staunch supporter of AB1OC for the New England Division Director. Making this decision was not quickly done. I decided by what AB1OC (Fred Kemmerer) stands for and what he has accomplished with the Nashua club. We all want someone who not only supports getting students involved but also works hard on keeping newly licensed hams of all ages involved in the hobby. Fred Kemmerer has put in place solutions that work. He wants to share those solutions with the clubs and hams in New England and eventually all of the USA. They are solutions that work, period. Fred Kemmerer has the ideas and energy to make this happen. His ideas for bringing new people into ham radio, for keeping newly licensed hams in ham radio, for creating a positive image of ham radio are sound and spot on. Simply said they work. It's this kind of energy and dedication to our hobby that we all want. If you watch the debate video, you'll see his opponent K1VR talk about himself. K1VR he has no vision of the future of ham radio in New England or anywhere without himself being in front of everyone getting credit for things. You won't ever hear him mention New England hams or clubs. K1VR has had this position for nearly 3 years now. How come we're only seeing him in public now that it's election time? Tom Frenaye was the director for some 20 years just prior to K1VR. When he speaks, he talks about his accomplishments of 15-20 years ago. Nothing K1KI says is current or again pertains to hams and clubs in New England. Tom's time has come and gone and he has lost touch with everything New England ham radio-wise other than the New England Qso Party which is his baby that he created years ago. When K1KI visited the HCRA Field Day this past June, he asked where KK1W was and why wasn't the president of the HCRA around and at his Field Day. KK1W has not been the HCRA President for 7 years now. Is that someone who is in touch with the goings on of the present. To me, I feel he should retire and let AB1OC step up and make a difference. I urge everyone to go to: https://ab1oc-4-director.org/creating-future/ and really read what Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC is all about, what he stands for, what he has accomplished so far and what he can accomplish for all of us in the future. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC has a 100 day plan. He will be holding Town Hall type Zoom meetings where all are welcome to join and ask questions and discuss ideas. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC will be held accountable for everything he promises. If three years from now, you can say Fred Kemmerer accomplished nothing like K1VR has done the past three years, then vote him out. For now, he is the BEST thing that New England has to represent ham radio ops and clubs. You don't want to deny those ideas, accomplishments and energy. You want to VOTE Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC into office as the New England Division Director and let him make a difference for us all. Larry, W1AST HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM John Ewell wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From nu1oscar at aol.com Sun Sep 19 20:51:34 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 00:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1775050361.1374700.1632099094120@mail.yahoo.com> Larry, Your column in September's Zero Beat may as well have been a paid endorsement by AB1OC. Now you're using club resources once again to support your candidate for the ARRL's regional seat. If K1KI or K1VR asked to submit a free ad to Zero Beat, or to this site, to offset your endorsement in your column would you accept it? Don't you feel you've created a conflict of interest by using the resources of the HCRA to support your candidate??? Chris Scibelli? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Larry Krainson To: John Ewell Cc: HCRA at mailman.qth.net ; AB1OC Fred Kemmerer Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 5:42 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ OK Folks. I posted the link to the debate video hoping everyone would watch it and make a decision as to who they would vote for in the upcoming ARRL New England Division election. The ballots go out October 1st. Many of you know me. I am the current president of the HCRA, am an ARRL life member and also a member of FCARC and BARS (in eastern MA). Many of you also know I am a staunch supporter of AB1OC for the New England Division Director. Making this decision was not quickly done. I decided by what AB1OC (Fred Kemmerer) stands for and what he has accomplished with the Nashua club. We all want someone who not only supports getting students involved but also works hard on keeping newly licensed hams of all ages involved in the hobby. Fred Kemmerer has put in place solutions that work. He wants to share those solutions with the clubs and hams in New England and eventually all of the USA. They are solutions that work, period. Fred Kemmerer has the ideas and energy to make this happen. His ideas for bringing new people into ham radio, for keeping newly licensed hams in ham radio, for creating a positive image of ham radio are sound and spot on. Simply said they work. It's this kind of energy and dedication to our hobby that we all want. If you watch the debate video, you'll see his opponent K1VR talk about himself. K1VR he has no vision of the future of ham radio in New England or anywhere without himself being in front of everyone getting credit for things. You won't ever hear him mention New England hams or clubs. K1VR has had this position for nearly 3 years now. How come we're only seeing him in public now that it's election time? Tom Frenaye was the director for some 20 years just prior to K1VR. When he speaks, he talks about his accomplishments of 15-20 years ago. Nothing K1KI says is current or again pertains to hams and clubs in New England. Tom's time has come and gone and he has lost touch with everything New England ham radio-wise other than the New England Qso Party which is his baby that he created years ago. When K1KI visited the HCRA Field Day this past June, he asked where KK1W was and why wasn't the president of the HCRA around and at his Field Day. KK1W has not been the HCRA President for 7 years now. Is that someone who is in touch with the goings on of the present. To me, I feel he should retire and let AB1OC step up and make a difference. I urge everyone to go to:? https://ab1oc-4-director.org/creating-future/ and really read what Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC is all about, what he stands for, what he has accomplished so far and what he can accomplish for all of us in the future. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC has a 100 day plan. He will be holding Town Hall type Zoom meetings where all are welcome to join and ask questions and discuss ideas. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC will be held accountable for everything he promises. If three years from now, you can say Fred Kemmerer accomplished nothing like K1VR has done the past three years, then vote him out. For now, he is the BEST thing that New England has to represent ham radio ops and clubs. You don't want to deny those ideas, accomplishments and energy. You want to VOTE Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC into office as the New England Division Director and let him make a difference for us all. Larry, W1AST HCRA President ? - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org ? - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM John Ewell wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From wb1dby at gmail.com Sun Sep 19 20:55:07 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 20:55:07 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <1775050361.1374700.1632099094120@mail.yahoo.com> References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> <1775050361.1374700.1632099094120@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Not at all Chris. Both K1VR and K1Ki have been invited to submit articles for ZeroBeat. Read the October issue when it comes out. Also, if you do not like what I have to say or post, then volunteer and commit your time to the club to improve it even more. Then you can say what you want when you want to. That is if you are voted in. Larry, W1AST HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:52 PM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Larry, > Your column in September's Zero Beat may as well have been a paid > endorsement by AB1OC. Now you're using club resources once again to support > your candidate for the ARRL's regional seat. > > If K1KI or K1VR asked to submit a free ad to Zero Beat, or to this site, > to offset your endorsement in your column would you accept it? > > Don't you feel you've created a conflict of interest by using the > resources of the HCRA to support your candidate? > Chris Scibelli NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Krainson > To: John Ewell > Cc: HCRA at mailman.qth.net ; AB1OC Fred Kemmerer < > ab1oc at ab1oc.org> > Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 5:42 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > OK Folks. I posted the link to the debate video hoping everyone would watch > it and make a decision as to who they would vote for in the upcoming ARRL > New England Division election. The ballots go out October 1st. > > Many of you know me. I am the current president of the HCRA, am an ARRL > life member and also a member of FCARC and BARS (in eastern MA). > > Many of you also know I am a staunch supporter of AB1OC for the New England > Division Director. Making this decision was not quickly done. I decided by > what AB1OC (Fred Kemmerer) stands for and what he has accomplished with the > Nashua club. > > We all want someone who not only supports getting students involved but > also works hard on keeping newly licensed hams of all ages involved in the > hobby. Fred Kemmerer has put in place solutions that work. He wants to > share those solutions with the clubs and hams in New England and eventually > all of the USA. They are solutions that work, period. > > Fred Kemmerer has the ideas and energy to make this happen. His ideas for > bringing new people into ham radio, for keeping newly licensed hams in ham > radio, for creating a positive image of ham radio are sound and spot on. > Simply said they work. > > It's this kind of energy and dedication to our hobby that we all want. > > If you watch the debate video, you'll see his opponent K1VR talk about > himself. K1VR he has no vision of the future of ham radio in New England or > anywhere without himself being in front of everyone getting credit for > things. You won't ever hear him mention New England hams or clubs. K1VR has > had this position for nearly 3 years now. How come we're only seeing him in > public now that it's election time? > > Tom Frenaye was the director for some 20 years just prior to K1VR. When he > speaks, he talks about his accomplishments of 15-20 years ago. Nothing K1KI > says is current or again pertains to hams and clubs in New England. Tom's > time has come and gone and he has lost touch with everything New England > ham radio-wise other than the New England Qso Party which is his baby that > he created years ago. > > When K1KI visited the HCRA Field Day this past June, he asked where KK1W > was and why wasn't the president of the HCRA around and at his Field Day. > KK1W has not been the HCRA President for 7 years now. Is that someone who > is in touch with the goings on of the present. To me, I feel he should > retire and let AB1OC step up and make a difference. > > I urge everyone to go to: https://ab1oc-4-director.org/creating-future/ > and really read what Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC is all about, what he stands for, > what he has accomplished so far and what he can accomplish for all of us in > the future. > > Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC has a 100 day plan. He will be holding Town Hall type > Zoom meetings where all are welcome to join and ask questions and discuss > ideas. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC will be held accountable for everything he > promises. > > If three years from now, you can say Fred Kemmerer accomplished nothing > like K1VR has done the past three years, then vote him out. > > For now, he is the BEST thing that New England has to represent ham radio > ops and clubs. > > You don't want to deny those ideas, accomplishments and energy. You want to > VOTE Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC into office as the New England Division Director > and let him make a difference for us all. > > Larry, W1AST > HCRA President > > - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org > - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager > > > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM John Ewell wrote: > > > ______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are > very > > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > K1VR > > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was > able > > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my > background > > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high > > altitude balloon tracking. > > > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio > clubs > > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, > and > > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > > and ideas. > > > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > > traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking > at > > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the > field. > > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best > speakers > > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and > has a > > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > > didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning > October > > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > > and diverse future. > > > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > John Ewell N1JIE > > > > n1jie at arrl.net > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From wb1dby at gmail.com Sun Sep 19 20:59:34 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 20:59:34 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <1775050361.1374700.1632099094120@mail.yahoo.com> References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> <1775050361.1374700.1632099094120@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Furthermore Chris, if you were any good at mentoring young or new hams, they would still be in the hobby and active. The fact that you said they are not, says something about you. We need people that are good for the hobby, good at connecting with people. AB1OC is that person! Larry, W1AST HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:52 PM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Larry, > Your column in September's Zero Beat may as well have been a paid > endorsement by AB1OC. Now you're using club resources once again to support > your candidate for the ARRL's regional seat. > > If K1KI or K1VR asked to submit a free ad to Zero Beat, or to this site, > to offset your endorsement in your column would you accept it? > > Don't you feel you've created a conflict of interest by using the > resources of the HCRA to support your candidate? > Chris Scibelli NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Krainson > To: John Ewell > Cc: HCRA at mailman.qth.net ; AB1OC Fred Kemmerer < > ab1oc at ab1oc.org> > Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 5:42 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > OK Folks. I posted the link to the debate video hoping everyone would watch > it and make a decision as to who they would vote for in the upcoming ARRL > New England Division election. The ballots go out October 1st. > > Many of you know me. I am the current president of the HCRA, am an ARRL > life member and also a member of FCARC and BARS (in eastern MA). > > Many of you also know I am a staunch supporter of AB1OC for the New England > Division Director. Making this decision was not quickly done. I decided by > what AB1OC (Fred Kemmerer) stands for and what he has accomplished with the > Nashua club. > > We all want someone who not only supports getting students involved but > also works hard on keeping newly licensed hams of all ages involved in the > hobby. Fred Kemmerer has put in place solutions that work. He wants to > share those solutions with the clubs and hams in New England and eventually > all of the USA. They are solutions that work, period. > > Fred Kemmerer has the ideas and energy to make this happen. His ideas for > bringing new people into ham radio, for keeping newly licensed hams in ham > radio, for creating a positive image of ham radio are sound and spot on. > Simply said they work. > > It's this kind of energy and dedication to our hobby that we all want. > > If you watch the debate video, you'll see his opponent K1VR talk about > himself. K1VR he has no vision of the future of ham radio in New England or > anywhere without himself being in front of everyone getting credit for > things. You won't ever hear him mention New England hams or clubs. K1VR has > had this position for nearly 3 years now. How come we're only seeing him in > public now that it's election time? > > Tom Frenaye was the director for some 20 years just prior to K1VR. When he > speaks, he talks about his accomplishments of 15-20 years ago. Nothing K1KI > says is current or again pertains to hams and clubs in New England. Tom's > time has come and gone and he has lost touch with everything New England > ham radio-wise other than the New England Qso Party which is his baby that > he created years ago. > > When K1KI visited the HCRA Field Day this past June, he asked where KK1W > was and why wasn't the president of the HCRA around and at his Field Day. > KK1W has not been the HCRA President for 7 years now. Is that someone who > is in touch with the goings on of the present. To me, I feel he should > retire and let AB1OC step up and make a difference. > > I urge everyone to go to: https://ab1oc-4-director.org/creating-future/ > and really read what Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC is all about, what he stands for, > what he has accomplished so far and what he can accomplish for all of us in > the future. > > Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC has a 100 day plan. He will be holding Town Hall type > Zoom meetings where all are welcome to join and ask questions and discuss > ideas. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC will be held accountable for everything he > promises. > > If three years from now, you can say Fred Kemmerer accomplished nothing > like K1VR has done the past three years, then vote him out. > > For now, he is the BEST thing that New England has to represent ham radio > ops and clubs. > > You don't want to deny those ideas, accomplishments and energy. You want to > VOTE Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC into office as the New England Division Director > and let him make a difference for us all. > > Larry, W1AST > HCRA President > > - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org > - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager > > > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM John Ewell wrote: > > > ______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are > very > > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > K1VR > > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was > able > > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my > background > > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high > > altitude balloon tracking. > > > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio > clubs > > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, > and > > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > > and ideas. > > > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > > traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking > at > > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the > field. > > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best > speakers > > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and > has a > > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > > didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning > October > > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > > and diverse future. > > > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > John Ewell N1JIE > > > > n1jie at arrl.net > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From kb1vky at gmail.com Mon Sep 20 05:39:41 2021 From: kb1vky at gmail.com (Jeff) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 05:39:41 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Larry that was horrible to say about Chris not being a good mentor. Chris is entitled to his opinion wether you like it or not. The attacks I am seeing in this email chain is making me not want to vote for Fred. everyone please stop attacking someone for voicing their opinion. If this hobby is going to move forward we all have to stick together and allow everyone to say what the feel. Stay safe, Jeff AB1WT " Chance Favors The Prepared Mind " > On Sep 19, 2021, at 9:01 PM, Larry Krainson wrote: > > ?______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Furthermore Chris, if you were any good at mentoring young or new hams, > they would still be in the hobby and active. The fact that you said they > are not, says something about you. > > We need people that are good for the hobby, good at connecting with people. > AB1OC is that person! > > Larry, W1AST > HCRA President > > - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org > - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager > > > >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:52 PM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < >> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> Larry, >> Your column in September's Zero Beat may as well have been a paid >> endorsement by AB1OC. Now you're using club resources once again to support >> your candidate for the ARRL's regional seat. >> >> If K1KI or K1VR asked to submit a free ad to Zero Beat, or to this site, >> to offset your endorsement in your column would you accept it? >> >> Don't you feel you've created a conflict of interest by using the >> resources of the HCRA to support your candidate? >> Chris Scibelli NU1O >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Larry Krainson >> To: John Ewell >> Cc: HCRA at mailman.qth.net ; AB1OC Fred Kemmerer < >> ab1oc at ab1oc.org> >> Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 5:42 pm >> Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> OK Folks. I posted the link to the debate video hoping everyone would watch >> it and make a decision as to who they would vote for in the upcoming ARRL >> New England Division election. The ballots go out October 1st. >> >> Many of you know me. I am the current president of the HCRA, am an ARRL >> life member and also a member of FCARC and BARS (in eastern MA). >> >> Many of you also know I am a staunch supporter of AB1OC for the New England >> Division Director. Making this decision was not quickly done. I decided by >> what AB1OC (Fred Kemmerer) stands for and what he has accomplished with the >> Nashua club. >> >> We all want someone who not only supports getting students involved but >> also works hard on keeping newly licensed hams of all ages involved in the >> hobby. Fred Kemmerer has put in place solutions that work. He wants to >> share those solutions with the clubs and hams in New England and eventually >> all of the USA. They are solutions that work, period. >> >> Fred Kemmerer has the ideas and energy to make this happen. His ideas for >> bringing new people into ham radio, for keeping newly licensed hams in ham >> radio, for creating a positive image of ham radio are sound and spot on. >> Simply said they work. >> >> It's this kind of energy and dedication to our hobby that we all want. >> >> If you watch the debate video, you'll see his opponent K1VR talk about >> himself. K1VR he has no vision of the future of ham radio in New England or >> anywhere without himself being in front of everyone getting credit for >> things. You won't ever hear him mention New England hams or clubs. K1VR has >> had this position for nearly 3 years now. How come we're only seeing him in >> public now that it's election time? >> >> Tom Frenaye was the director for some 20 years just prior to K1VR. When he >> speaks, he talks about his accomplishments of 15-20 years ago. Nothing K1KI >> says is current or again pertains to hams and clubs in New England. Tom's >> time has come and gone and he has lost touch with everything New England >> ham radio-wise other than the New England Qso Party which is his baby that >> he created years ago. >> >> When K1KI visited the HCRA Field Day this past June, he asked where KK1W >> was and why wasn't the president of the HCRA around and at his Field Day. >> KK1W has not been the HCRA President for 7 years now. Is that someone who >> is in touch with the goings on of the present. To me, I feel he should >> retire and let AB1OC step up and make a difference. >> >> I urge everyone to go to: https://ab1oc-4-director.org/creating-future/ >> and really read what Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC is all about, what he stands for, >> what he has accomplished so far and what he can accomplish for all of us in >> the future. >> >> Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC has a 100 day plan. He will be holding Town Hall type >> Zoom meetings where all are welcome to join and ask questions and discuss >> ideas. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC will be held accountable for everything he >> promises. >> >> If three years from now, you can say Fred Kemmerer accomplished nothing >> like K1VR has done the past three years, then vote him out. >> >> For now, he is the BEST thing that New England has to represent ham radio >> ops and clubs. >> >> You don't want to deny those ideas, accomplishments and energy. You want to >> VOTE Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC into office as the New England Division Director >> and let him make a difference for us all. >> >> Larry, W1AST >> HCRA President >> >> - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org >> - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager >> >> >> >>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM John Ewell wrote: >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election >>> >>> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand >>> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. >>> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are >> very >>> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an >>> actualchoice in candidates for our region. >>> >>> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, >> K1VR >>> is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the >>> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. >>> >>> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my >>> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and >>> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We >>> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite >>> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was >> able >>> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my >> background >>> is in powergeneration, not electronics). >>> >>> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he >>> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and high >>> altitude balloon tracking. >>> >>> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the >>> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto >>> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for >>> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio >> clubs >>> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, >>> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, >> and >>> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents >>> and ideas. >>> >>> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the >>> traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking >> at >>> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and >>> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. >>> >>> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the >> field. >>> He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that >>> wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best >> speakers >>> I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and >> has a >>> history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. >>> >>> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I >>> didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning >> October >>> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose >>> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive >>> and diverse future. >>> >>> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> John Ewell N1JIE >>> >>> n1jie at arrl.net >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> HCRA mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From nt1k at nt1k.com Mon Sep 20 08:47:16 2021 From: nt1k at nt1k.com (Jeffrey Bail - NT1K) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 08:47:16 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some interesting reading. I don't consider myself a young person anymore (38) but I've been licensed for almost 21 years and I've been involved in the hobby ever since 1995. However, there are amateur radio related events I've attended where I felt out of place due to my age. Countless times I've been told that I don't know anything, I didn't take the "real" test, hiding behind my 2X1 vanity and I'm just "too young to know better" in this hobby. There are quite a few stubborn, bitter and generally angry people involved in this hobby. They resist any changes, even more so if they can't understand it because it might hurt their inflated ego. Some even keep bringing up "back in my day" thinking that they were somehow magically going to go back to 1955. Even though these people are in the minority and I personally don't give them the time of day, they stick out like a sore thumb and overshadow the people who are actually trying to make a positive difference within the hobby. These "sore thumbs" stick out so much that it turns off people that are remotely interested in amateur radio. I've talked with some that obtained a license, purchased a radio and turned into a repeater to eventually hear them talking about their health issues and conspiracies. I feel more people are getting licensed for a "what if" situation more than being interested in the hobby. Times change, people change and technology changes with time. Some changes happen faster than others. Amateur radio has slowed down as other technologies have far surpassed it. It's evident by seeing thousands of amateur radio related websites that seem to be stuck in the 1990's. I often hear "We've got to compete with these [insert modern devices/technology here]". Amateur radio can't compete with the PC nor with cell phones/smartphones. However, we can adapt and embrace this new technology but that is often met with resistance. You're not going to attract younger people to this hobby by digging in your heels and resisting change. When it comes to the original topic of the ARRL NE director, it's an interesting race for sure. You have Tom (K1KI) who was a prior NE director and has been trying to restructure the licenses to hopefully attract new people. Fred (K1VR) who is the current director and is a well known telecommunication lawyer that's helped many hams. And Fred (AB1OC) who appears to be out in the trenches helping out in many areas. Since I don't blindly toe a party line, it's a difficult choice. I usually try my best to look at any situation from as many angles as possible with an unbiased opinion. There are two sides or more to a story and I try to factor them all into my decision. AB1OC seems interesting, he turned the Nashua club into a well known, respected club that others look up to. He even embraces some of the other technologies that are out there. However, it appears AB1OC has this "My way or the highway" attitude. That might be fine for a local club but I am not sure how well that will play out on a national level. Will he be able to get along with the other directors and play nice with them? Personally I'm not sure. When it comes to the other Fred (K1VR), I got to see him at his first New England Div Cabinet meeting and wasn't impressed. It appears he didn't know much of anything outside of contesting and zoning. He did make sure to get rid of that stupid APRA bill that the ARRL drafted as a "win" even though they (ARRL) basically caved into the HOAs demands. I don't hear much from Fred (unless you personally e-mail him) and he seems to be against using social media (which isn't going away). Tom (K1KI) was doing something which I thought would actually attract new people to the hobby. He was trying to give techs more HF privileges. Of course some are bitter over that but I feel it's needed. HF is where all the fun is at. If you give techs a taste of HF, it will be more likely they'll actually stick around and be active instead of throwing their HT into storage for a what if. However, the times I've personally reached out to Tom about things I really care about (VE/VEC), I felt it landed on deaf ears since it wasn't his main focus at the time. Personally it's a difficult choice because they all have their strengths. I do care about the hobby and I do care about its survival. Even more so locally. Please look into the candidates and don't take a single person's word as your sole reason. Vote wisely. These are just my 2 cents. - Jeffrey Bail (NT1K) On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 5:41 AM Jeff wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Larry that was horrible to say about Chris not being a good mentor. Chris > is entitled to his opinion wether you like it or not. The attacks I am > seeing in this email chain is making me not want to vote for Fred. everyone > please stop attacking someone for voicing their opinion. If this hobby is > going to move forward we all have to stick together and allow everyone to > say what the feel. > Stay safe, > Jeff AB1WT > > " Chance Favors The Prepared Mind " > > > On Sep 19, 2021, at 9:01 PM, Larry Krainson wrote: > > > > ?______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > Furthermore Chris, if you were any good at mentoring young or new hams, > > they would still be in the hobby and active. The fact that you said they > > are not, says something about you. > > > > We need people that are good for the hobby, good at connecting with > people. > > AB1OC is that person! > > > > Larry, W1AST > > HCRA President > > > > - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org > > - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager > > > > > > > >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:52 PM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < > >> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > >> ______________________________________________ > >> Larry, > >> Your column in September's Zero Beat may as well have been a paid > >> endorsement by AB1OC. Now you're using club resources once again to > support > >> your candidate for the ARRL's regional seat. > >> > >> If K1KI or K1VR asked to submit a free ad to Zero Beat, or to this site, > >> to offset your endorsement in your column would you accept it? > >> > >> Don't you feel you've created a conflict of interest by using the > >> resources of the HCRA to support your candidate? > >> Chris Scibelli NU1O > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Larry Krainson > >> To: John Ewell > >> Cc: HCRA at mailman.qth.net ; AB1OC Fred Kemmerer < > >> ab1oc at ab1oc.org> > >> Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 5:42 pm > >> Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > >> ______________________________________________ > >> OK Folks. I posted the link to the debate video hoping everyone would > watch > >> it and make a decision as to who they would vote for in the upcoming > ARRL > >> New England Division election. The ballots go out October 1st. > >> > >> Many of you know me. I am the current president of the HCRA, am an ARRL > >> life member and also a member of FCARC and BARS (in eastern MA). > >> > >> Many of you also know I am a staunch supporter of AB1OC for the New > England > >> Division Director. Making this decision was not quickly done. I decided > by > >> what AB1OC (Fred Kemmerer) stands for and what he has accomplished with > the > >> Nashua club. > >> > >> We all want someone who not only supports getting students involved but > >> also works hard on keeping newly licensed hams of all ages involved in > the > >> hobby. Fred Kemmerer has put in place solutions that work. He wants to > >> share those solutions with the clubs and hams in New England and > eventually > >> all of the USA. They are solutions that work, period. > >> > >> Fred Kemmerer has the ideas and energy to make this happen. His ideas > for > >> bringing new people into ham radio, for keeping newly licensed hams in > ham > >> radio, for creating a positive image of ham radio are sound and spot on. > >> Simply said they work. > >> > >> It's this kind of energy and dedication to our hobby that we all want. > >> > >> If you watch the debate video, you'll see his opponent K1VR talk about > >> himself. K1VR he has no vision of the future of ham radio in New > England or > >> anywhere without himself being in front of everyone getting credit for > >> things. You won't ever hear him mention New England hams or clubs. K1VR > has > >> had this position for nearly 3 years now. How come we're only seeing > him in > >> public now that it's election time? > >> > >> Tom Frenaye was the director for some 20 years just prior to K1VR. When > he > >> speaks, he talks about his accomplishments of 15-20 years ago. Nothing > K1KI > >> says is current or again pertains to hams and clubs in New England. > Tom's > >> time has come and gone and he has lost touch with everything New England > >> ham radio-wise other than the New England Qso Party which is his baby > that > >> he created years ago. > >> > >> When K1KI visited the HCRA Field Day this past June, he asked where KK1W > >> was and why wasn't the president of the HCRA around and at his Field > Day. > >> KK1W has not been the HCRA President for 7 years now. Is that someone > who > >> is in touch with the goings on of the present. To me, I feel he should > >> retire and let AB1OC step up and make a difference. > >> > >> I urge everyone to go to: > https://ab1oc-4-director.org/creating-future/ > >> and really read what Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC is all about, what he stands > for, > >> what he has accomplished so far and what he can accomplish for all of > us in > >> the future. > >> > >> Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC has a 100 day plan. He will be holding Town Hall > type > >> Zoom meetings where all are welcome to join and ask questions and > discuss > >> ideas. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC will be held accountable for everything he > >> promises. > >> > >> If three years from now, you can say Fred Kemmerer accomplished nothing > >> like K1VR has done the past three years, then vote him out. > >> > >> For now, he is the BEST thing that New England has to represent ham > radio > >> ops and clubs. > >> > >> You don't want to deny those ideas, accomplishments and energy. You > want to > >> VOTE Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC into office as the New England Division > Director > >> and let him make a difference for us all. > >> > >> Larry, W1AST > >> HCRA President > >> > >> - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org > >> - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM John Ewell > wrote: > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > >>> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > >>> > >>> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > >>> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > >>> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are > >> very > >>> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have > an > >>> actualchoice in candidates for our region. > >>> > >>> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > >> K1VR > >>> is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > >>> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > >>> > >>> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > >>> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > >>> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. > We > >>> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > >>> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was > >> able > >>> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my > >> background > >>> is in powergeneration, not electronics). > >>> > >>> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > >>> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS ? school contacts,and > high > >>> altitude balloon tracking. > >>> > >>> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > >>> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > >>> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > >>> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio > >> clubs > >>> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > >>> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, > >> and > >>> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their > talents > >>> and ideas. > >>> > >>> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > >>> traditional ham ? beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking > >> at > >>> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung > and > >>> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > >>> > >>> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the > >> field. > >>> He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire > that > >>> wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best > >> speakers > >>> I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and > >> has a > >>> history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > >>> > >>> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > >>> didn?t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning > >> October > >>> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > >>> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to > anactive > >>> and diverse future. > >>> > >>> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > >>> > >>> Sincerely, > >>> > >>> John Ewell N1JIE > >>> > >>> n1jie at arrl.net > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>> HCRA mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> HCRA mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> HCRA mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From kd1ku at yahoo.com Mon Sep 20 12:07:29 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:07:29 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <1775050361.1374700.1632099094120@mail.yahoo.com> References: <207016654.1876172.1631985329883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <207016654.1876172.1631985329883@mail.yahoo.com> <1775050361.1374700.1632099094120@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Chris, In Septembers Zero Beat just as in every month was "From the Presidents Shack" where Larry always talks about a variety of subjects that range from club activities, upcoming contests or whatever is relevant at the time. September to no ones surprise was about the upcoming elections. I wrote the article on AB1OC from material he made available for the sole purpose of clubs and their newsletters. Long before this email rant began I already had both K1KI and K1VR's articles in my possession. They will both be in the October Zero Beat. To have all three in the same issue would probably push ZB to a new level as far as the number of pages and content go. This happened because one or more HCRA board members approached them at HamExpo or via email. They were given a chance for equal time and they both gladly submitted an article for October and Larry fully supported this even though he supports AB1OC. I'm leaning towards AB1OC but want to see the video before I make up my mind. I might be relatively new to the ARRL as a new member but I've been a ham since 1991 and first joined HCRA in 1993 with my then new call-sign I got when I upgraded to Advanced class. I can understand how many "old timers" felt back then when the code requirement was first dropped creating "No-Code Techs". If it wasn't for that entry class ticket and a good friends urging I might not be a ham today! Because I felt like an outsider being a no-code I was on the fast track to upgrading and it only took two years to learn code from nothing to 20 wpm as my goal was to get a 2x2 call hoping for a KD1KR which is my first, middle and last initials but ended up with KD1KU. Life got in the way and the hobby took a backseat to kids and life. Imagine my surprise when I returned to learn that code was dropped entirely and the advanced class was dropped entirely! I'll stay an Advanced class operator only because if I upgrade that is gone forever. I tried an online Extra Class practice test for ha ha's and missed it by one question without any studying. It doesn't matter that I might not like the code being completely dropped but it's probably better for the entire ham radio community especially future hams! My point in saying this is I could have very easily not became involved again and walked away but I chose to get more involved in the hobby and the HCRA, the easiest way for everyone to do this is to attend meetings even if they are still on Zoom! I can certainly understand how some feel excluded no matter the reason and we should be going out of our way to make EVERYONE feel included and to be a part of the hobby no matter their gender, race, religion or anything else! Without doing this there is NO future for our hobby and that is NOT something I want to see! Just my 3 cents, 73, Ken ~ KD1KU Zero Beat Editor Join Hampden County Radio Association Visit HCRA.org On 9/19/2021 8:51 PM, Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Larry, > Your column in September's Zero Beat may as well have been a paid endorsement by AB1OC. Now you're using club resources once again to support your candidate for the ARRL's regional seat. > > If K1KI or K1VR asked to submit a free ad to Zero Beat, or to this site, to offset your endorsement in your column would you accept it? > > Don't you feel you've created a conflict of interest by using the resources of the HCRA to support your candidate? > Chris Scibelli? NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Krainson > To: John Ewell > Cc: HCRA at mailman.qth.net ; AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 5:42 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > OK Folks. I posted the link to the debate video hoping everyone would watch > it and make a decision as to who they would vote for in the upcoming ARRL > New England Division election. The ballots go out October 1st. > > Many of you know me. I am the current president of the HCRA, am an ARRL > life member and also a member of FCARC and BARS (in eastern MA). > > Many of you also know I am a staunch supporter of AB1OC for the New England > Division Director. Making this decision was not quickly done. I decided by > what AB1OC (Fred Kemmerer) stands for and what he has accomplished with the > Nashua club. > > We all want someone who not only supports getting students involved but > also works hard on keeping newly licensed hams of all ages involved in the > hobby. Fred Kemmerer has put in place solutions that work. He wants to > share those solutions with the clubs and hams in New England and eventually > all of the USA. They are solutions that work, period. > > Fred Kemmerer has the ideas and energy to make this happen. His ideas for > bringing new people into ham radio, for keeping newly licensed hams in ham > radio, for creating a positive image of ham radio are sound and spot on. > Simply said they work. > > It's this kind of energy and dedication to our hobby that we all want. > > If you watch the debate video, you'll see his opponent K1VR talk about > himself. K1VR he has no vision of the future of ham radio in New England or > anywhere without himself being in front of everyone getting credit for > things. You won't ever hear him mention New England hams or clubs. K1VR has > had this position for nearly 3 years now. How come we're only seeing him in > public now that it's election time? > > Tom Frenaye was the director for some 20 years just prior to K1VR. When he > speaks, he talks about his accomplishments of 15-20 years ago. Nothing K1KI > says is current or again pertains to hams and clubs in New England. Tom's > time has come and gone and he has lost touch with everything New England > ham radio-wise other than the New England Qso Party which is his baby that > he created years ago. > > When K1KI visited the HCRA Field Day this past June, he asked where KK1W > was and why wasn't the president of the HCRA around and at his Field Day. > KK1W has not been the HCRA President for 7 years now. Is that someone who > is in touch with the goings on of the present. To me, I feel he should > retire and let AB1OC step up and make a difference. > > I urge everyone to go to:? https://ab1oc-4-director.org/creating-future/ > and really read what Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC is all about, what he stands for, > what he has accomplished so far and what he can accomplish for all of us in > the future. > > Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC has a 100 day plan. He will be holding Town Hall type > Zoom meetings where all are welcome to join and ask questions and discuss > ideas. Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC will be held accountable for everything he > promises. > > If three years from now, you can say Fred Kemmerer accomplished nothing > like K1VR has done the past three years, then vote him out. > > For now, he is the BEST thing that New England has to represent ham radio > ops and clubs. > > You don't want to deny those ideas, accomplishments and energy. You want to > VOTE Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC into office as the New England Division Director > and let him make a difference for us all. > > Larry, W1AST > HCRA President > > ? - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org > ? - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager > > > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM John Ewell wrote: > >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> >> From nu1oscar at aol.com Mon Sep 20 12:46:03 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] A clear abuse of power! References: <1589990693.541845.1632156363423.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1589990693.541845.1632156363423@mail.yahoo.com> Your personal attack towards me speaks volumes about your lack of character.? I have since found out that Jason has not left the hobby.? He graduated from college and is now working on a more advanced degree. I also noticed his address has changed but he states he's working on a Butternut vertical.? Your QRZ page says your son only liked to use big contest stations and has now left the hobby.? What does that say about your mentoring skills? I belong to a separate social society and we were advised by our lawyer not to allow political candidates to speak before the membership, nor should the officers of the club make public endorsements for political candidates.? You are violating the ethical rules for clubs and associations.? Perhaps, you should check with your attorney. I've heard that AB1OC will be the sole speaker at November's HCRA meeting.? That is a clear abuse of power and your members should not stand for it.? Even those who are supporting AB1OC should be able to recognize how terribly unfair that is and what an abuse of power it is. You've turned this club into your personal fiefdom.? W6IS is rolling over in his grave right now. At least offer all three candidates the right to speak an equal amount of time. Offering two candidates the right to publish a biography while your selection for Director gets to speak before the whole membership is something I'd expect to see in an autocratic regime like Cuba or China. Have you no shame at all? Chris Scibelli? NU1O From kd1ku at yahoo.com Mon Sep 20 13:25:15 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 13:25:15 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] HCRA 10 Meter Net Tonight References: <65687a7b-65a0-ed2f-0597-051dbbffa3b2.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <65687a7b-65a0-ed2f-0597-051dbbffa3b2@yahoo.com> Reminder: The HCRA 10 meter net is tonight, 9/20, 7pm on 28.375 usb Topic: What is your current station setup? Radios, antennas or ? All licensed hams are welcome to participate regardless of club affiliation or location 73, Ken ~ KD1KU Zero Beat Editor Join Hampden County Radio Association Visit HCRA.org From dcbourq at juno.com Mon Sep 20 16:09:34 2021 From: dcbourq at juno.com (John Bourque) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 20:09:34 GMT Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams Message-ID: <20210920.160934.24730.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> I write this is response to the issue of our failing attempts to foster more interest inour worthy Amateur Radio hobby. First, let me digress and explain a bit about myself. I am 68 YO and got my Tech license only two and a half years ago. I am retired withtwo grown kids on their own and my house is payed off. I have also been a widowerfor the past 20 years. Bless her soul, but I therefore, don't have to negotiate with awife to justify the expenses associated with my radio shack purchases. Most of us hams tend to forget just how much money we have spent over the yearson our own Amateur Radio pursuits. One of the major errors we Hams make when trying to promote our hobby to potentialnew hams is, that we fail to consider things from their point of view. We already havea ham license and we also already have a fully functional radio shack to use. They don't.They don't even have a Tech license yet. Depending on just how involved they maychoose to get, prospective hams are facing thousands of dollars of investment that theyprobably can't afford at the present time just to get started. Suffice it to say, high schoolers are too young and most college students are alreadyeyeball deep in school loans. Pursuing an inherently expensive hobby is probably the lastthing on their mind. Post college and even middle 20's leads to thoughts of marriage,paying off loans and considering home purchases. Enough! You get the picture.We have all been there. We all know that just a Tech license gets old real fast. The 2m and 70cm bands aren't asbusy as they used to be. It is no wonder that, without outside influence, Tech holders loseinterest altogether. Personally, that is what would have happened to me if I hadn't and gotten my General license right away. And then, although more restricted than Extra, General leads to much more expensiveHF transceivers, elaborate antenna arrays and the required additional support equipment. Bottom Line: Money is a critical factor. With the US economy the way it is and, even if interest is there, most potential hams are going to second guess themselves before venturing into a hobbythat will prove to be expensive. Especially if they aren't sure if Amateur Radio will only betemporary passing or turn into a life long passion like it is for the rest of us. Put yourself in their shoes. Consider their perspective. BTW, I have heard that, despite all the free introductory HCRA memberships that we offer tonewly licensed Techies, few,i f any, prospective's ever follow-up with subsequent regularmemberships. Perhaps it is because they never attend any of our meetings to discover whatHCRA is all about. Perhaps it is because we in HCRA never reach out to these perspectives,invite them to our meetings and make any special concerted effort to welcome them into ourfold at our meetings. You get the idea. 73 John B, WA1JKB ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. 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Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag995&promoCode=A23457 From w1rm at comcast.net Mon Sep 20 16:53:17 2021 From: w1rm at comcast.net (w1rm at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:53:17 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams In-Reply-To: <20210920.160934.24730.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20210920.160934.24730.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <002001d7ae61$8a7c1f50$9f745df0$@comcast.net> John you've hit on a point that I feel is very worth following up on. Back in my formative years, I had no station and very little money. As a 14-year-old putting together my 50-cents per week allowance to buy some gear was a very big deal. In those days, I had a club at the high school I attended. They had a station and that was a place to get a glimmer of what it was all about. My mentor (one might call him an Elmer today) was W2KMQ. He had a home brew transmitter and a beautiful NC-300 receiver. On a few occasions I got to visit his home and see what life on 75 meters was all about. Later, he put up a 15-meter beam and was on 15. I don't know if HCRA has a permanent meeting location where a station might be installed. Alternatively, members who are willing might host a new ham on occasion to visit and see what life on the air is really all about. Clubs can play an integral role in solidifying interest of a new licensee. No amount of YouTube or such can replace a real-live QSO! Another great opportunity is the ARRL Rookie Roundups. Perhaps the club could sponsor a few stations where rookies could get into the round up and get a taste of what it's all about. Just some grist for the mill. Pete Chamalian, W1RM W1rm at comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of John Bourque Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:10 PM To: hcra at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ I write this is response to the issue of our failing attempts to foster more interest inour worthy Amateur Radio hobby. First, let me digress and explain a bit about myself. I am 68 YO and got my Tech license only two and a half years ago. I am retired withtwo grown kids on their own and my house is payed off. I have also been a widowerfor the past 20 years. Bless her soul, but I therefore, don't have to negotiate with awife to justify the expenses associated with my radio shack purchases. Most of us hams tend to forget just how much money we have spent over the yearson our own Amateur Radio pursuits. One of the major errors we Hams make when trying to promote our hobby to potentialnew hams is, that we fail to consider things from their point of view. We already havea ham license and we also already have a fully functional radio shack to use. They don't.They don't even have a Tech license yet. Depending on just how involved they maychoose to get, prospective hams are facing thousands of dollars of investment that theyprobably can't afford at the present time just to get started. Suffice it to say, high schoolers are too young and most college students are alreadyeyeball deep in school loans. Pursuing an inherently expensive hobby is probably the lastthing on their mind. Post college and even middle 20's leads to thoughts of marriage,paying off loans and considering home purchases. Enough! You get the picture.We have all been there. We all know that just a Tech license gets old real fast. The 2m and 70cm bands aren't asbusy as they used to be. It is no wonder that, without outside influence, Tech holders loseinterest altogether. Personally, that is what would have happened to me if I hadn't and gotten my General license right away. And then, although more restricted than Extra, General leads to much more expensiveHF transceivers, elaborate antenna arrays and the required additional support equipment. Bottom Line: Money is a critical factor. Wi th the US economy the way it is and, even if interest is there, most potential hams are going to second guess themselves before venturing into a hobbythat will prove to be expensive. Especially if they aren't sure if Amateur Radio will only betemporary passing or turn into a life long passion like it is for the rest of us. Put yourself in their shoes. Consider their perspective. BTW, I have heard that, despite all the free introductory HCRA memberships that we offer tonewly licensed Techies, few,i f any, prospective's ever follow-up with subsequent regularmemberships. Perhaps it is because they never attend any of our meetings to discover whatHCRA is all about. Perhaps it is because we in HCRA never reach out to these perspectives,invite them to our meetings and make any special concerted effort to welcome them into ourfold at our meetings. You get the idea. 73 John B, WA1JKB ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into > that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I > think most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This > is 2021, not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and > they view our hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the > teens I've talked to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from > the HCRA elmered a teen about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to > 100 hours with him on the air or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the > start but it only lasted about a year. He's now an inactive ham. He > didn't quit due to a lack of support from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that > happening, either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or > a significant other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join > the hobby to please a spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement > or fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a > station, That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met > in the past decade. We may as well go after the demographic group > actually joining the hobby instead of trying some social experiment > destined to fail. It's simply a losing battle fighting demographics > and I won't vote for a candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England > QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a > project and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know > he's been a very active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are > very smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to > have an actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC > is the President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, > and provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his > hamshack. We went through test equipment, various types of antennas, > satellite communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of > instructors was able to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water > based mind (my background is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that > he has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school > contacts,and high altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio > clubs inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and > involvement, andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and > grow his club, and others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams > to share their talents and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and > startlooking at the overall population and try to mirror that. His > success withyoung and school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire > that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe > best speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals > forhimself, and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. > So,beginning October 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and > an obligationto choose where our organization goes. Continue the > status quo, or move to anactive and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. 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Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_ source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag 995&promoCode=A23457 ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From nu1oscar at aol.com Mon Sep 20 17:29:15 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 21:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams In-Reply-To: <002001d7ae61$8a7c1f50$9f745df0$@comcast.net> References: <20210920.160934.24730.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> <002001d7ae61$8a7c1f50$9f745df0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1619851714.1660665.1632173355635@mail.yahoo.com> This problem is exactly why I wrote the ARRL should use some of its $40 million endowment to create stations for public use in all 50 states.? ARRL could pay for a basic station and it could be located in a public building such as a school to save on having to buy and maintain real estate. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: w1rm at comcast.net To: 'John Bourque' ; hcra at mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, Sep 20, 2021 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ John you've hit on a point that I feel is very worth following up on. Back in my formative years, I had no station and very little money.? As a 14-year-old putting together my 50-cents per week allowance to buy some gear was a very big deal. In those days, I had a club at the high school I attended.? They had a station and that was a place to get a glimmer of what it was all about.? My mentor (one might call him an Elmer today) was W2KMQ.? He had a home brew transmitter and a beautiful NC-300 receiver.? On a few occasions I got to visit his home and see what life on 75 meters was all about.? Later, he put up a 15-meter beam and was on 15. I don't know if HCRA has a permanent meeting location where a station might be installed.? Alternatively, members who are willing might host a new ham on occasion to visit and see what life on the air is really all about. Clubs can play an integral role in solidifying interest of a new licensee. No amount of YouTube or such can replace a real-live QSO! Another great opportunity is the ARRL Rookie Roundups.? Perhaps the club could sponsor a few stations where rookies could get into the round up and get a taste of what it's all about. Just some grist for the mill. Pete Chamalian, W1RM W1rm at comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of John Bourque Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:10 PM To: hcra at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ I write this is response to the issue of our failing attempts to foster more interest inour worthy Amateur Radio hobby.? First, let me digress and explain a bit about myself. I am 68 YO and got my Tech license only two and a half years ago. I am retired withtwo grown kids on their own and my house is payed off. I have also been a widowerfor the past 20 years. Bless her soul, but I therefore, don't have to negotiate with awife to justify the expenses associated with my radio shack purchases. Most of us hams tend to forget just how much money we have spent over the yearson our own Amateur Radio pursuits. One of the major errors we Hams make when trying to promote our hobby to potentialnew hams is, that we fail to consider things from their point of view. We already havea ham license and we also already have a fully functional radio shack to use. They don't.They don't even have a Tech license yet. Depending on just how involved they maychoose to get, prospective hams are facing ? thousands of dollars of investment that theyprobably can't afford at the present time? just to get started. Suffice it to say, high schoolers are too young and most college students are alreadyeyeball deep in school loans. Pursuing an inherently expensive hobby is probably the lastthing on their mind. Post college and even middle 20's leads to thoughts of marriage,paying off loans and considering home purchases. Enough! You get the picture.We have all been there. We all know that just a Tech license gets old real fast. The 2m and 70cm bands aren't asbusy as they used to be. It is no wonder that, without outside influence, Tech holders loseinterest altogether. Personally, that is what would have happened to me if I hadn't and gotten my General license right away. And then, although more restricted than Extra, General leads to much more expensiveHF transceivers, elaborate antenna arrays and the required additional support equipment. Bottom Line: Money is a critical factor. Wi th the US economy the way it is and, even if interest is there, most potential hams are going to second guess themselves before venturing into a hobbythat will prove to be expensive. Especially if they aren't sure if Amateur Radio will only betemporary passing or turn into a life long passion like it is for the rest of us. Put yourself in their shoes. Consider their perspective.? BTW, I have heard that, despite all the free introductory HCRA memberships that we offer tonewly licensed Techies, few,i f any, prospective's ever follow-up with subsequent regularmemberships. Perhaps it is because they never attend any of our meetings to discover whatHCRA is all about. Perhaps it is because we in HCRA never reach out to these perspectives,invite them to our meetings and make any special concerted effort to welcome them into ourfold at our meetings.? You get the idea. 73 John B,? WA1JKB? ? ? ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re:? ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote.? All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box.? Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW.? You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby.? In essence, that's all I wrote.? Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into > that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I > think most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen.? This > is 2021, not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and > they view our hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the > teens I've talked to about ham radio have told me.? Some of us from > the HCRA elmered a teen about 5 years ago.? I must have spent 50 to > 100 hours with him on the air or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the > start but it only lasted about a year. He's now an inactive ham. He > didn't quit due to a lack of support from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that > happening, either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or > a significant other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join > the hobby to please a spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement > or fully retired.? They now have the time and money to buy and use a > station, That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met > in the past decade. We may as well go after the demographic group > actually joining the hobby instead of trying some social experiment > destined to fail. It's simply a losing battle fighting demographics > and I won't vote for a candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI.? He's done a great job with the New England > QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a > project and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know > he's been a very active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris? NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are > very smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to > have an actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC > is the President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, > and provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his > hamshack. We went through test equipment, various types of antennas, > satellite communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of > instructors was able to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water > based mind (my background is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that > he has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school > contacts,and high altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio > clubs inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and > involvement, andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and > grow his club, and others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams > to share their talents and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and > startlooking at the overall population and try to mirror that. His > success withyoung and school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire > that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe > best speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals > forhimself, and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. > So,beginning October 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and > an obligationto choose where our organization goes. Continue the > status quo, or move to anactive and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. 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Oquendo) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 18:53:08 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] A clear abuse of power! In-Reply-To: <1589990693.541845.1632156363423@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1589990693.541845.1632156363423.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1589990693.541845.1632156363423@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This thread is getting old and annoying. In the end everyone will and should vote for their preferred candidate. Myself, I just continue enjoying the hobby, and learning more about it. This weekend, I just bagged another state towards my WAS award. I will get there slowly but surely with 100 watts and a wire, or barefoot like some say. I also added another DX QSO to my list. Those are the things I enjoy about the hobby, besides the opportunity to be useful in case of an emergency. Vanessa, W1IRL On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 12:46 PM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Your personal attack towards me speaks volumes about your lack of > character. > I have since found out that Jason has not left the hobby. He graduated > from college and is now working on a more advanced degree. I also noticed > his address has changed but he states he's working on a Butternut vertical. > Your QRZ page says your son only liked to use big contest stations and has > now left the hobby. What does that say about your mentoring skills? > I belong to a separate social society and we were advised by our lawyer > not to allow political candidates to speak before the membership, nor > should the officers of the club make public endorsements for political > candidates. You are violating the ethical rules for clubs and > associations. Perhaps, you should check with your attorney. > I've heard that AB1OC will be the sole speaker at November's HCRA > meeting. That is a clear abuse of power and your members should not stand > for it. Even those who are supporting AB1OC should be able to recognize > how terribly unfair that is and what an abuse of power it is. You've turned > this club into your personal fiefdom. W6IS is rolling over in his grave > right now. > At least offer all three candidates the right to speak an equal amount of > time. Offering two candidates the right to publish a biography while your > selection for Director gets to speak before the whole membership is > something I'd expect to see in an autocratic regime like Cuba or China. > Have you no shame at all? > Chris Scibelli NU1O > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- ?. O. From smpvs at hotmail.com Mon Sep 20 22:48:09 2021 From: smpvs at hotmail.com (Steve Berian) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 02:48:09 +0000 Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams In-Reply-To: <1619851714.1660665.1632173355635@mail.yahoo.com> References: <20210920.160934.24730.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> <002001d7ae61$8a7c1f50$9f745df0$@comcast.net> <1619851714.1660665.1632173355635@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi folks just want to say a few words about ham radio versus commercial and non-commercial radio. the two latter forms of radio are what I got involved in when I was 11 years old and I stayed involved with them for close to 40 years. I have done some engineering work in radio, but more in Manufacturing cuz I like to build stuff. stuff that gets used by a lot of people and also stuff that gets used by our government. I was introduced to ham radio when I was 14 Adam Mars station at Hartford Public High School in Hartford Connecticut are Electronics instructor, Colonel George C Arvantaki ran the station as well as the electronics lab. The electronics bug bit me, but the ham radio bug didn't. The photography bug bit me hard and I started investing in cameras, lenses & lab gear. Continued my electronics education @ Pratt & Whitney as an apprentice ET, followed by an AS in Electronics @ Univ of Hartford's Ward Tech. Worked my way thru business college as an ET. Subsequently have had several engineering & management positions leveraging both academic areas. Several buddies during college & after asked why I wasn't a ham. Just had not appealed to me. One in particular, WA1ZEV, has nagged me on it for 40+ yrs! I said awhile ago that I'd get involved with ham when I retired. That happened 2 yrs ago. Got my tech license & recently bought a DMR radio. Earlier this summer got involved w Springfield RACES. Two weeks ago, went to the Hamvention in Marlboro. Learned a few things, took some notes, saw & had dinner w some friends. And attended the candidate's "debate". So now at least I can distinguish between the three gentlemen. I've alread said how intend to vote & why. I'm not sure I will stay with this hobby, we'll see. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:29:15 PM To: hcra at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ This problem is exactly why I wrote the ARRL should use some of its $40 million endowment to create stations for public use in all 50 states. ARRL could pay for a basic station and it could be located in a public building such as a school to save on having to buy and maintain real estate. Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: w1rm at comcast.net To: 'John Bourque' ; hcra at mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, Sep 20, 2021 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ John you've hit on a point that I feel is very worth following up on. Back in my formative years, I had no station and very little money. As a 14-year-old putting together my 50-cents per week allowance to buy some gear was a very big deal. In those days, I had a club at the high school I attended. They had a station and that was a place to get a glimmer of what it was all about. My mentor (one might call him an Elmer today) was W2KMQ. He had a home brew transmitter and a beautiful NC-300 receiver. On a few occasions I got to visit his home and see what life on 75 meters was all about. Later, he put up a 15-meter beam and was on 15. I don't know if HCRA has a permanent meeting location where a station might be installed. Alternatively, members who are willing might host a new ham on occasion to visit and see what life on the air is really all about. Clubs can play an integral role in solidifying interest of a new licensee. No amount of YouTube or such can replace a real-live QSO! Another great opportunity is the ARRL Rookie Roundups. Perhaps the club could sponsor a few stations where rookies could get into the round up and get a taste of what it's all about. Just some grist for the mill. Pete Chamalian, W1RM W1rm at comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of John Bourque Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:10 PM To: hcra at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ I write this is response to the issue of our failing attempts to foster more interest inour worthy Amateur Radio hobby. First, let me digress and explain a bit about myself. I am 68 YO and got my Tech license only two and a half years ago. I am retired withtwo grown kids on their own and my house is payed off. I have also been a widowerfor the past 20 years. Bless her soul, but I therefore, don't have to negotiate with awife to justify the expenses associated with my radio shack purchases. Most of us hams tend to forget just how much money we have spent over the yearson our own Amateur Radio pursuits. One of the major errors we Hams make when trying to promote our hobby to potentialnew hams is, that we fail to consider things from their point of view. We already havea ham license and we also already have a fully functional radio shack to use. They don't.They don't even have a Tech license yet. Depending on just how involved they maychoose to get, prospective hams are facing thousands of dollars of investment that theyprobably can't afford at the present time just to get started. Suffice it to say, high schoolers are too young and most college students are alreadyeyeball deep in school loans. Pursuing an inherently expensive hobby is probably the lastthing on their mind. Post college and even middle 20's leads to thoughts of marriage,paying off loans and considering home purchases. Enough! You get the picture.We have all been there. We all know that just a Tech license gets old real fast. The 2m and 70cm bands aren't asbusy as they used to be. It is no wonder that, without outside influence, Tech holders loseinterest altogether. Personally, that is what would have happened to me if I hadn't and gotten my General license right away. And then, although more restricted than Extra, General leads to much more expensiveHF transceivers, elaborate antenna arrays and the required additional support equipment. Bottom Line: Money is a critical factor. Wi th the US economy the way it is and, even if interest is there, most potential hams are going to second guess themselves before venturing into a hobbythat will prove to be expensive. Especially if they aren't sure if Amateur Radio will only betemporary passing or turn into a life long passion like it is for the rest of us. Put yourself in their shoes. Consider their perspective. BTW, I have heard that, despite all the free introductory HCRA memberships that we offer tonewly licensed Techies, few,i f any, prospective's ever follow-up with subsequent regularmemberships. Perhaps it is because they never attend any of our meetings to discover whatHCRA is all about. Perhaps it is because we in HCRA never reach out to these perspectives,invite them to our meetings and make any special concerted effort to welcome them into ourfold at our meetings. You get the idea. 73 John B, WA1JKB ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into > that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I > think most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This > is 2021, not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and > they view our hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the > teens I've talked to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from > the HCRA elmered a teen about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to > 100 hours with him on the air or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the > start but it only lasted about a year. He's now an inactive ham. He > didn't quit due to a lack of support from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that > happening, either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or > a significant other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join > the hobby to please a spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement > or fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a > station, That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met > in the past decade. We may as well go after the demographic group > actually joining the hobby instead of trying some social experiment > destined to fail. It's simply a losing battle fighting demographics > and I won't vote for a candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England > QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a > project and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know > he's been a very active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are > very smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to > have an actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC > is the President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, > and provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his > hamshack. We went through test equipment, various types of antennas, > satellite communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of > instructors was able to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water > based mind (my background is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that > he has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school > contacts,and high altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio > clubs inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and > involvement, andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and > grow his club, and others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams > to share their talents and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and > startlooking at the overall population and try to mirror that. His > success withyoung and school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire > that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe > best speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals > forhimself, and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. > So,beginning October 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and > an obligationto choose where our organization goes. Continue the > status quo, or move to anactive and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. 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My wife and I got our technician licenses in Jan of? this year.??? We have enjoyed the hobby very much.?? ALL of our QSOs have been extremely courteous, welcoming, and helpful.??? We were pleasantly surprised at the wonderful sense of community and all the assistance we have received. I suggest that when using email here everyone use the same protocol that we use when communicating on the radio.? I have never heard a harsh word or acrimonious comment on the air. Please consider that email is just another form of communication for our community and should reflect the same sense of community that we expect and find on the air. Demographics plays a big role in this hobby.?? I think the decline of the manufacturing and "foundational support systems education" is a huge factor.? Added to the social changes we have seen there is no longer a large population of "builders" in our society.?? There is a large population of users.?? Most of our people are users of the all the hard work that went into creating the infrastructure necessary for everything to work.?? There is a huge difference between smelting steel or building a railroad and sitting behind a deck typing on a keyboard.? The life/work lessons learned are almost diametrically opposed.?? The life/work feedback loop is severely degraded. If you build a circuit and you designed it wrong you may let the smoke out and have to start all over.? Hours of labor lost.? If you make a mistake in software you can revert to a previous version, change the parameters, re-build in a matter of minutes, if you do it properly. Building infrastructure by hand is a labor of love.? As engineers we want it work and work properly and we take it as a personal affront if what we build is not 100%.?? Not so in the software world. In 40 years of computer science the two sentences I have never heard from a software engineer are "I'm sorry." and "It won't happen again." This is why our volunteer organizations are struggling to find people to replace their ranks.?? Personal responsibility in a social context is draining away.? Add to that the fraying of our social fabric and how can our community, based on mutual respect and common interest, continue? So I think we need to stop trying to cater to a group of people who are simply put, not like us.?? We need to get programs into the STEM institutions.?? In my opinion there should be an amateur radio course available at every STEM college/university and open classes we run regularly for anyone who is interested. The other part is interest.? Right now, other than RACES/ARES and different nets like Morning Brew, there is little to talk about on air.? "Comments of a personal nature", right??? I think we need to expand to topics of interest.? Things like the concept of communication itself. ? The use of language.? Personal relations. ? Every one of these things we do on the air every time we key up and are foundational to how we operate, yet we say nothing about it because it is inherent to our thinking.? I think we need to run our own coordinated and integrated programs that offer more than just a rag chew or an echo chamber for our own related focus like swapping gear or being an Elmer. Leaving it up to the inherent interest of our general population to grow or even maintain our population isn't going to work in my opinion. 73 to everyone. KC1OQB/Kevin On 9/20/2021 10:48 PM, Steve Berian wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Hi folks just want to say a few words about ham radio versus commercial and non-commercial radio. the two latter forms of radio are what I got involved in when I was 11 years old and I stayed involved with them for close to 40 years. I have done some engineering work in radio, but more in Manufacturing cuz I like to build stuff. stuff that gets used by a lot of people and also stuff that gets used by our government. > I was introduced to ham radio when I was 14 Adam Mars station at Hartford Public High School in Hartford Connecticut are Electronics instructor, Colonel George C Arvantaki ran the station as well as the electronics lab. The electronics bug bit me, but the ham radio bug didn't. > The photography bug bit me hard and I started investing in cameras, lenses & lab gear. Continued my electronics education @ Pratt & Whitney as an apprentice ET, followed by an AS in Electronics @ Univ of Hartford's Ward Tech. Worked my way thru business college as an ET. Subsequently have had several engineering & management positions leveraging both academic areas. > > Several buddies during college & after asked why I wasn't a ham. Just had not appealed to me. > > One in particular, WA1ZEV, has nagged me on it for 40+ yrs! I said awhile ago that I'd get involved with ham when I retired. That happened 2 yrs ago. > > Got my tech license & recently bought a DMR radio. Earlier this summer got involved w Springfield RACES. Two weeks ago, went to the Hamvention in Marlboro. Learned a few things, took some notes, saw & had dinner w some friends. > And attended the candidate's "debate". So now at least I can distinguish between the three gentlemen. I've alread said how intend to vote & why. > > I'm not sure I will stay with this hobby, we'll see. > > Get Outlook for Android > ________________________________ > From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:29:15 PM > To: hcra at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > This problem is exactly why I wrote the ARRL should use some of its $40 million endowment to create stations for public use in all 50 states. ARRL could pay for a basic station and it could be located in a public building such as a school to save on having to buy and maintain real estate. > Chris NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > From: w1rm at comcast.net > To: 'John Bourque' ; hcra at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Mon, Sep 20, 2021 4:53 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > John you've hit on a point that I feel is very worth following up on. > > Back in my formative years, I had no station and very little money. As a > 14-year-old putting together my 50-cents per week allowance to buy some gear > was a very big deal. > > In those days, I had a club at the high school I attended. They had a > station and that was a place to get a glimmer of what it was all about. My > mentor (one might call him an Elmer today) was W2KMQ. He had a home brew > transmitter and a beautiful NC-300 receiver. On a few occasions I got to > visit his home and see what life on 75 meters was all about. Later, he put > up a 15-meter beam and was on 15. > > I don't know if HCRA has a permanent meeting location where a station might > be installed. Alternatively, members who are willing might host a new ham > on occasion to visit and see what life on the air is really all about. > > Clubs can play an integral role in solidifying interest of a new licensee. > No amount of YouTube or such can replace a real-live QSO! > > Another great opportunity is the ARRL Rookie Roundups. Perhaps the club > could sponsor a few stations where rookies could get into the round up and > get a taste of what it's all about. > > Just some grist for the mill. > > > Pete Chamalian, W1RM > W1rm at comcast.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf > Of John Bourque > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:10 PM > To: hcra at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > I write this is response to the issue of our failing attempts to foster more > interest inour worthy Amateur Radio hobby. First, let me digress and > explain a bit about myself. I am 68 YO and got my Tech license only two and > a half years ago. I am retired withtwo grown kids on their own and my house > is payed off. I have also been a widowerfor the past 20 years. Bless her > soul, but I therefore, don't have to negotiate with awife to justify the > expenses associated with my radio shack purchases. Most of us hams tend to > forget just how much money we have spent over the yearson our own Amateur > Radio pursuits. One of the major errors we Hams make when trying to promote > our hobby to potentialnew hams is, that we fail to consider things from > their point of view. We already havea ham license and we also already have a > fully functional radio shack to use. They don't.They don't even have a Tech > license yet. Depending on just how involved they maychoose to get, > prospective hams are facing > thousands of dollars of investment that theyprobably can't afford at the > present time just to get started. Suffice it to say, high schoolers are too > young and most college students are alreadyeyeball deep in school loans. > Pursuing an inherently expensive hobby is probably the lastthing on their > mind. Post college and even middle 20's leads to thoughts of marriage,paying > off loans and considering home purchases. Enough! You get the picture.We > have all been there. We all know that just a Tech license gets old real > fast. The 2m and 70cm bands aren't asbusy as they used to be. It is no > wonder that, without outside influence, Tech holders loseinterest > altogether. Personally, that is what would have happened to me if I hadn't > and gotten my General license right away. And then, although more restricted > than Extra, General leads to much more expensiveHF transceivers, elaborate > antenna arrays and the required additional support equipment. Bottom Line: > Money is a critical factor. Wi > th the US economy the way it is and, even if interest is there, most > potential hams are going to second guess themselves before venturing into a > hobbythat will prove to be expensive. Especially if they aren't sure if > Amateur Radio will only betemporary passing or turn into a life long passion > like it is for the rest of us. Put yourself in their shoes. Consider their > perspective. BTW, I have heard that, despite all the free introductory HCRA > memberships that we offer tonewly licensed Techies, few,i f any, > prospective's ever follow-up with subsequent regularmemberships. Perhaps it > is because they never attend any of our meetings to discover whatHCRA is all > about. Perhaps it is because we in HCRA never reach out to these > perspectives,invite them to our meetings and make any special concerted > effort to welcome them into ourfold at our meetings. You get the idea. 73 > John B, WA1JKB ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote > posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types. > Thanks for your service to our country! > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bourque > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm > Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this > as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and > 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express > their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, > express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the > hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put > down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a > word about the things you referred to. > My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not > waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In > essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't > handle actual facts. > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ > Cc: HCRA Email List > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > Chris, > > This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of > the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support > I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I > most likely wouldn't still be a ham. > > Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not > a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should > turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard > to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. > These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby > and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. > > Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital > modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth > demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For > example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was > introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes > and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. > > We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger > demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to > change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. > > Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't > speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some > feathers. > > This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy > it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean > I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. > > 73, > Nick K1NZ > > > On the Droid. > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < > hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list >> (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into >> that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. >> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I >> think most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This >> is 2021, not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and >> they view our hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the >> teens I've talked to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from >> the HCRA elmered a teen about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to >> 100 hours with him on the air or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the >> start but it only lasted about a year. He's now an inactive ham. He >> didn't quit due to a lack of support from local hams because he received > plenty of help from myself and others.. >> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that >> happening, either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or >> a significant other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join >> the hobby to please a spouse. >> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with >> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement >> or fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a >> station, That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met >> in the past decade. We may as well go after the demographic group >> actually joining the hobby instead of trying some social experiment >> destined to fail. It's simply a losing battle fighting demographics >> and I won't vote for a candidate who thinks that's possible. >> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England >> QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a >> project and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know >> he's been a very active ham for decades. >> 73, >> Chris NU1O >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Ewell >> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer >> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm >> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list >> (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> >> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election >> >> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand >> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. >> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are >> very smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to >> have an actualchoice in candidates for our region. >> >> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, >> K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC >> is the President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. >> >> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my >> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, >> and provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his >> hamshack. We went through test equipment, various types of antennas, >> satellite communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of >> instructors was able to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water >> based mind (my background is in powergeneration, not electronics). >> >> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that >> he has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school >> contacts,and high altitude balloon tracking. >> >> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the >> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto >> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for >> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio >> clubs inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and >> involvement, andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and >> grow his club, and others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams >> to share their talents and ideas. >> >> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the >> traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and >> startlooking at the overall population and try to mirror that. His >> success withyoung and school age entry into radio speaks well for him and > us. >> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. >> He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire >> that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe >> best speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals >> forhimself, and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. >> >> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I >> didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. >> So,beginning October 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and >> an obligationto choose where our organization goes. Continue the >> status quo, or move to anactive and diverse future. >> >> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> John Ewell N1JIE >> >> n1jie at arrl.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Choose to be safer online. > Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. > Plans starting as low as $6.95 per month.* > https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_ > source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag > 695&promoCode=A34454 > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Choose to be safer online. > Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. > Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* > https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_ > source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag > 995&promoCode=A23457 > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From dcbourq at juno.com Tue Sep 21 09:28:16 2021 From: dcbourq at juno.com (John Bourque) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 13:28:16 GMT Subject: [HCRA] Everyone has an opinion - Message-ID: <20210921.092816.12676.1@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> This is America. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Unlike conversation, you can always just stop reading atany point where you start feeling uncomfortable or disagree. Personally, I have a philosophy. I just try not to let other peoplesignorance bother me. Instead, I regard it as merely humorous. WA1JKB ******************************************************************** ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Kevin M Washington To: hcra at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 08:37:45 -0400 ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Ladies and Gentlemen. My wife and I got our technician licenses in Jan of this year. We have enjoyed the hobby very much. ALL of our QSOs have been extremely courteous, welcoming, and helpful. We were pleasantly surprised at the wonderful sense of community and all the assistance we have received. I suggest that when using email here everyone use the same protocol that we use when communicating on the radio. I have never heard a harsh word or acrimonious comment on the air. Please consider that email is just another form of communication for our community and should reflect the same sense of community that we expect and find on the air. Demographics plays a big role in this hobby. I think the decline of the manufacturing and "foundational support systems education" is a huge factor. Added to the social changes we have seen there is no longer a large population of "builders" in our society. There is a large population of users. Most of our people are users of the all the hard work that went into creating the infrastructure necessary for everything to work. There is a huge difference between smelting steel or building a railroad and sitting behind a deck typing on a keyboard. The life/work lessons learned are almost diametrically opposed. The life/work feedback loop is severely degraded. If you build a circuit and you designed it wrong you may let the smoke out and have to start all over. Hours of labor lost. If you make a mistake in software you can revert to a previous version, change the parameters, re-build in a matter of minutes, if you do it properly. Building infrastructure by hand is a labor of love. As engineers we want it work and work properly and we take it as a personal affront if what we build is not 100%. Not so in the software world. In 40 years of computer science the two sentences I have never heard from a software engineer are "I'm sorry." and "It won't happen again." This is why our volunteer organizations are struggling to find people to replace their ranks. Personal responsibility in a social context is draining away. Add to that the fraying of our social fabric and how can our community, based on mutual respect and common interest, continue? So I think we need to stop trying to cater to a group of people who are simply put, not like us. We need to get programs into the STEM institutions. In my opinion there should be an amateur radio course available at every STEM college/university and open classes we run regularly for anyone who is interested. The other part is interest. Right now, other than RACES/ARES and different nets like Morning Brew, there is little to talk about on air. "Comments of a personal nature", right? I think we need to expand to topics of interest. Things like the concept of communication itself. The use of language. Personal relations. Every one of these things we do on the air every time we key up and are foundational to how we operate, yet we say nothing about it because it is inherent to our thinking. I think we need to run our own coordinated and integrated programs that offer more than just a rag chew or an echo chamber for our own related focus like swapping gear or being an Elmer. Leaving it up to the inherent interest of our general population to grow or even maintain our population isn't going to work in my opinion. 73 to everyone. KC1OQB/Kevin On 9/20/2021 10:48 PM, Steve Berian wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Hi folks just want to say a few words about ham radio versus commercial and non-commercial radio. the two latter forms of radio are what I got involved in when I was 11 years old and I stayed involved with them for close to 40 years. I have done some engineering work in radio, but more in Manufacturing cuz I like to build stuff. stuff that gets used by a lot of people and also stuff that gets used by our government. > I was introduced to ham radio when I was 14 Adam Mars station at Hartford Public High School in Hartford Connecticut are Electronics instructor, Colonel George C Arvantaki ran the station as well as the electronics lab. The electronics bug bit me, but the ham radio bug didn't. > The photography bug bit me hard and I started investing in cameras, lenses & lab gear. Continued my electronics education @ Pratt & Whitney as an apprentice ET, followed by an AS in Electronics @ Univ of Hartford's Ward Tech. Worked my way thru business college as an ET. Subsequently have had several engineering & management positions leveraging both academic areas. > > Several buddies during college & after asked why I wasn't a ham. Just had not appealed to me. > > One in particular, WA1ZEV, has nagged me on it for 40+ yrs! I said awhile ago that I'd get involved with ham when I retired. That happened 2 yrs ago. > > Got my tech license & recently bought a DMR radio. Earlier this summer got involved w Springfield RACES. Two weeks ago, went to the Hamvention in Marlboro. Learned a few things, took some notes, saw & had dinner w some friends. > And attended the candidate's "debate". So now at least I can distinguish between the three gentlemen. I've alread said how intend to vote & why. > > I'm not sure I will stay with this hobby, we'll see. > > Get Outlook for Android > ________________________________ > From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:29:15 PM > To: hcra at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > This problem is exactly why I wrote the ARRL should use some of its $40 million endowment to create stations for public use in all 50 states. ARRL could pay for a basic station and it could be located in a public building such as a school to save on having to buy and maintain real estate. > Chris NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > From: w1rm at comcast.net > To: 'John Bourque' ; hcra at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Mon, Sep 20, 2021 4:53 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > John you've hit on a point that I feel is very worth following up on. > > Back in my formative years, I had no station and very little money. As a > 14-year-old putting together my 50-cents per week allowance to buy some gear > was a very big deal. > > In those days, I had a club at the high school I attended. They had a > station and that was a place to get a glimmer of what it was all about. My > mentor (one might call him an Elmer today) was W2KMQ. He had a home brew > transmitter and a beautiful NC-300 receiver. On a few occasions I got to > visit his home and see what life on 75 meters was all about. Later, he put > up a 15-meter beam and was on 15. > > I don't know if HCRA has a permanent meeting location where a station might > be installed. Alternatively, members who are willing might host a new ham > on occasion to visit and see what life on the air is really all about. > > Clubs can play an integral role in solidifying interest of a new licensee. > No amount of YouTube or such can replace a real-live QSO! > > Another great opportunity is the ARRL Rookie Roundups. Perhaps the club > could sponsor a few stations where rookies could get into the round up and > get a taste of what it's all about. > > Just some grist for the mill. > > > Pete Chamalian, W1RM > W1rm at comcast.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net On Behalf > Of John Bourque > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:10 PM > To: hcra at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fostering new Hams > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > I write this is response to the issue of our failing attempts to foster more > interest inour worthy Amateur Radio hobby. First, let me digress and > explain a bit about myself. I am 68 YO and got my Tech license only two and > a half years ago. I am retired withtwo grown kids on their own and my house > is payed off. I have also been a widowerfor the past 20 years. Bless her > soul, but I therefore, don't have to negotiate with awife to justify the > expenses associated with my radio shack purchases. Most of us hams tend to > forget just how much money we have spent over the yearson our own Amateur > Radio pursuits. One of the major errors we Hams make when trying to promote > our hobby to potentialnew hams is, that we fail to consider things from > their point of view. We already havea ham license and we also already have a > fully functional radio shack to use. They don't.They don't even have a Tech > license yet. Depending on just how involved they maychoose to get, > prospective hams are facing > thousands of dollars of investment that theyprobably can't afford at the > present time just to get started. Suffice it to say, high schoolers are too > young and most college students are alreadyeyeball deep in school loans. > Pursuing an inherently expensive hobby is probably the lastthing on their > mind. Post college and even middle 20's leads to thoughts of marriage,paying > off loans and considering home purchases. Enough! You get the picture.We > have all been there. We all know that just a Tech license gets old real > fast. The 2m and 70cm bands aren't asbusy as they used to be. It is no > wonder that, without outside influence, Tech holders loseinterest > altogether. Personally, that is what would have happened to me if I hadn't > and gotten my General license right away. And then, although more restricted > than Extra, General leads to much more expensiveHF transceivers, elaborate > antenna arrays and the required additional support equipment. Bottom Line: > Money is a critical factor. Wi > th the US economy the way it is and, even if interest is there, most > potential hams are going to second guess themselves before venturing into a > hobbythat will prove to be expensive. Especially if they aren't sure if > Amateur Radio will only betemporary passing or turn into a life long passion > like it is for the rest of us. Put yourself in their shoes. Consider their > perspective. BTW, I have heard that, despite all the free introductory HCRA > memberships that we offer tonewly licensed Techies, few,i f any, > prospective's ever follow-up with subsequent regularmemberships. Perhaps it > is because they never attend any of our meetings to discover whatHCRA is all > about. Perhaps it is because we in HCRA never reach out to these > perspectives,invite them to our meetings and make any special concerted > effort to welcome them into ourfold at our meetings. You get the idea. 73 > John B, WA1JKB ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote > posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types. > Thanks for your service to our country! > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bourque > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm > Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this > as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and > 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express > their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, > express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the > hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put > down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a > word about the things you referred to. > My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not > waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In > essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't > handle actual facts. > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ > Cc: HCRA Email List > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list > (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ > Chris, > > This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of > the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support > I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I > most likely wouldn't still be a ham. > > Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not > a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should > turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard > to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. > These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby > and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. > > Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital > modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth > demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For > example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was > introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes > and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. > > We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger > demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to > change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. > > Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't > speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some > feathers. > > This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy > it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean > I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. > > 73, > Nick K1NZ > > > On the Droid. > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < > hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list >> (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into >> that of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. >> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I >> think most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This >> is 2021, not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and >> they view our hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the >> teens I've talked to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from >> the HCRA elmered a teen about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to >> 100 hours with him on the air or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the >> start but it only lasted about a year. He's now an inactive ham. He >> didn't quit due to a lack of support from local hams because he received > plenty of help from myself and others.. >> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that >> happening, either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or >> a significant other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join >> the hobby to please a spouse. >> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with >> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement >> or fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a >> station, That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met >> in the past decade. We may as well go after the demographic group >> actually joining the hobby instead of trying some social experiment >> destined to fail. It's simply a losing battle fighting demographics >> and I won't vote for a candidate who thinks that's possible. >> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England >> QSO Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a >> project and he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know >> he's been a very active ham for decades. >> 73, >> Chris NU1O >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Ewell >> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer >> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm >> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list >> (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> >> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election >> >> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand >> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. >> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are >> very smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to >> have an actualchoice in candidates for our region. >> >> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, >> K1VR is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC >> is the President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. >> >> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my >> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, >> and provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his >> hamshack. We went through test equipment, various types of antennas, >> satellite communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of >> instructors was able to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water >> based mind (my background is in powergeneration, not electronics). >> >> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that >> he has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school >> contacts,and high altitude balloon tracking. >> >> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the >> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto >> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for >> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio >> clubs inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and >> involvement, andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and >> grow his club, and others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams >> to share their talents and ideas. >> >> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the >> traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and >> startlooking at the overall population and try to mirror that. His >> success withyoung and school age entry into radio speaks well for him and > us. >> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. >> He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire >> that wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe >> best speakers I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals >> forhimself, and has a history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. >> >> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I >> didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. >> So,beginning October 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and >> an obligationto choose where our organization goes. Continue the >> status quo, or move to anactive and diverse future. >> >> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> John Ewell N1JIE >> >> n1jie at arrl.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: 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http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/6149de2adf0345e2a49c7st01vuc1 Texas Doctor Who Performed Abortion Gets What He Wanted http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/6149de2b9ed25e2a49c7st01vuc2 CIA Director's Entourage Hit by Havana Syndrome http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/6149de2b29adc5e2a49c7st01vuc3 From nu1oscar at aol.com Tue Sep 21 14:39:27 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 18:39:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: <20210919.090856.794.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> <833474479.1277435.1632064575158@mail.yahoo.com> <1620116796.1845933.1632234487526@mail.yahoo.com> <517224342.1886118.1632241168327@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1094124834.1941794.1632249567833@mail.yahoo.com> Phil, I think you're making a big political mistake by publicly supporting AB1OC.? If he loses, you run the risk of alienating those who supported the losing candidates, but it's your choice and you know what the consequences will be. With 15 directors it becomes a game of coalition building and that's why it's so hard to change the direction of that massive ship otherwise known as ARRL. For those who thought my comment about women was anti-feminist, the last candidate I publicly supported for an ARRL Director was Ria, Jairam, N2RJ. I got to know her as a member of the eHam DX forum.? She built a big DX station and has a background in computer data management.? I think she was the head of the computer dept, at Fox News at one time.? I'm pretty sure I made a nice donation to her campaign but that was several years ago. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 2:12 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view There are 15 directors.? If you're one director, you must find at least seven other allies to support your motion. I've been coaching AB1OC on potential allies on the current board.? Yes, it's a very conservative organization.? I've learned this well from attending two board meetings since I was appointed last September. Re talking to actual directors--yes. Re talking up your idea to K1VR--that's pretty much a non-starter. You should hope that AB1OC does win. Of the three candidates, he's the one who is most willing to entertain new ideas. Phil On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:19 PM wrote: I hope those who are all-in on AB1OC realize that even if he wins he's just one vote among many.? The ARRL was setup so that the status quo is almost always the outcome.? It's also a very conservative organization. I expect my proposal to build public stations in all 50 states to be rejected because too many directors won't want to spend endowment funds. Phil, all one can do is try.? That would be the case whether you were a regional Director.? Yes, talk to actual Directors.? AB1OC hasn't been elected yet. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:40 am Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view I will.? Understand, though, I'm a "back seat" bench warmer on the board with no vote.? But I can certainly talk it up among my fellow board members. I will also mention this to Fred Kemmerer. Phil On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:28 AM wrote: I'm glad you like the idea, Phil.? Why don't you try to get it implemented by talking about the idea with your colleagues at ARRL? Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:12 am Subject: Fwd: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Chris, You write: "...I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states.? Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station.? A basic station could be built for under $10,000.? I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn.? Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate.? I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model.? These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby.? It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby." That's an interesting idea, one that deserves further scrutiny. 73, Phil Temples,? K9HI ARRL Vice DirectorNew England Division ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA Date: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view To: hcra at mailman.qth.net ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ During the debate, it was revealed the ARRL's endowment is now $40 million.? Not long ago the endowment was $15 million but the bull market in the equities market over the past decade has no doubt been a factor in the big increase.? I've seen this with many not-for-profit organizations; the endowments just grow larger and larger much like a company or billionaire's net worth. The endowment becomes almost sacrosanct.? Why does the ARRL need an endowment of $40 million? With just a 5% return per annum, the endowment will be over $60 million in a decade.? Is the purpose of the endowment to just see how much money the ARRL can accumulate or is it supposed to be used to help the hobby grow? If the ARRL is really going to mirror the demographics of society at large, there needs to be a way for those who can't afford a station of their own to get actual on-air time with a real ham station. I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states.? Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station.? A basic station could be built for under $10,000.? I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn.? Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate.? I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model.? These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby.? It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby.? I expect many at the ARRL to resist such an idea, but does the ARRL really need a cash cushion of $40 million?? How much of an endowment is enough before some of the money is actually used on projects to bring new hams into the hobby?? Frankly, I'm getting tired of continually watching the endowment grow larger and larger when the hobby really needs a project as I have proposed. Chris? NU1O hcra at mailman.qth.net -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 9:08 am Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ You're 100% correct, Chris. That is why I wrote "express your "One person; One vote" opinion at the ballot box" in my email response last evening. We have 3 and only three candidates to choose from. If the issues matter all that much, everyone should make theirvoting choice very carefully. Otherwise, talk is cheap. John, WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re:? ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote.? All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box.? Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW.? You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby.? In essence, that's all I wrote.? Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen.? This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me.? Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago.? I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired.? They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI.? He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris? NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. 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I don?t think Chris is right. You?re good with your public support of AB1OC. :) Thanks for your thoughts, Phil. > On Sep 21, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA wrote: > > ?______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Phil, > I think you're making a big political mistake by publicly supporting AB1OC. If he loses, you run the risk of alienating those who supported the losing candidates, but it's your choice and you know what the consequences will be. > With 15 directors it becomes a game of coalition building and that's why it's so hard to change the direction of that massive ship otherwise known as ARRL. > For those who thought my comment about women was anti-feminist, the last candidate I publicly supported for an ARRL Director was Ria, Jairam, N2RJ. I got to know her as a member of the eHam DX forum. She built a big DX station and has a background in computer data management. I think she was the head of the computer dept, at Fox News at one time. I'm pretty sure I made a nice donation to her campaign but that was several years ago. > Chris NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Temples > To: nu1oscar at aol.com > Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 2:12 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > There are 15 directors. If you're one director, you must find at least seven other allies to support your motion. I've been coaching AB1OC on potential allies on the current board. > Yes, it's a very conservative organization. I've learned this well from attending two board meetings since I was appointed last September. > Re talking to actual directors--yes. Re talking up your idea to K1VR--that's pretty much a non-starter. You should hope that AB1OC does win. Of the three candidates, he's the one who is most willing to entertain new ideas. > Phil > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:19 PM wrote: > > I hope those who are all-in on AB1OC realize that even if he wins he's just one vote among many. The ARRL was setup so that the status quo is almost always the outcome. It's also a very conservative organization. I expect my proposal to build public stations in all 50 states to be rejected because too many directors won't want to spend endowment funds. > Phil, all one can do is try. That would be the case whether you were a regional Director. Yes, talk to actual Directors. AB1OC hasn't been elected yet. > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Temples > To: nu1oscar at aol.com > Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:40 am > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > I will. Understand, though, I'm a "back seat" bench warmer on the board with no vote. But I can certainly talk it up among my fellow board members. I will also mention this to Fred Kemmerer. > Phil > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:28 AM wrote: > > I'm glad you like the idea, Phil. Why don't you try to get it implemented by talking about the idea with your colleagues at ARRL? > Chris NU1O > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Temples > To: nu1oscar at aol.com > Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:12 am > Subject: Fwd: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > Chris, > You write: > "...I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states. Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station. A basic station could be built for under $10,000. I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn. Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate. I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model. These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby. It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby." > > That's an interesting idea, one that deserves further scrutiny. > 73, > Phil Temples, K9HI > ARRL Vice DirectorNew England Division > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > Date: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:17 AM > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > To: hcra at mailman.qth.net > > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > During the debate, it was revealed the ARRL's endowment is now $40 million. Not long ago the endowment was $15 million but the bull market in the equities market over the past decade has no doubt been a factor in the big increase. I've seen this with many not-for-profit organizations; the endowments just grow larger and larger much like a company or billionaire's net worth. The endowment becomes almost sacrosanct. > > Why does the ARRL need an endowment of $40 million? With just a 5% return per annum, the endowment will be over $60 million in a decade. Is the purpose of the endowment to just see how much money the ARRL can accumulate or is it supposed to be used to help the hobby grow? > If the ARRL is really going to mirror the demographics of society at large, there needs to be a way for those who can't afford a station of their own to get actual on-air time with a real ham station. I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states. Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station. A basic station could be built for under $10,000. I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn. Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate. I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model. These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby. It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby. > I expect many at the ARRL to resist such an idea, but does the ARRL really need a cash cushion of $40 million? How much of an endowment is enough before some of the money is actually used on projects to bring new hams into the hobby? Frankly, I'm getting tired of continually watching the endowment grow larger and larger when the hobby really needs a project as I have proposed. > Chris NU1O > > hcra at mailman.qth.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bourque > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 9:08 am > Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > You're 100% correct, Chris. That is why I wrote "express your "One person; One vote" opinion at the ballot box" in my email response last evening. We have 3 and only three candidates to choose from. If the issues matter all that much, everyone should make theirvoting choice very carefully. Otherwise, talk is cheap. John, WA1JKB > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types. > Thanks for your service to our country! > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bourque > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm > Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. > My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ > Cc: HCRA Email List > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Chris, > > This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of > the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support > I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I > most likely wouldn't still be a ham. > > Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm > not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I > should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a > blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. > These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the > hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. > > Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital > modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth > demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For > example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was > introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered > digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. > > We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger > demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to > change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. > > Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't > speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some > feathers. > > This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and > enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do > doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. > > 73, > Nick K1NZ > > > On the Droid. > >> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < >> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that >> of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. >> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think >> most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, >> not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our >> hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked >> to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen >> about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air >> or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a >> year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support >> from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. >> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, >> either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant >> other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a >> spouse. >> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with >> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or >> fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, >> That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past >> decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the >> hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's >> simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a >> candidate who thinks that's possible. >> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO >> Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and >> he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very >> active ham for decades. >> 73, >> Chris NU1O >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Ewell >> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer >> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm >> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view >> >> ______________________________________________ >> -------Hampden County Radio Association------- >> -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- >> ______________________________________________ >> >> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election >> >> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand >> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. >> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very >> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an >> actualchoice in candidates for our region. >> >> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR >> is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the >> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. >> >> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my >> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and >> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We >> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite >> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able >> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background >> is in powergeneration, not electronics). >> >> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he >> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high >> altitude balloon tracking. >> >> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the >> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto >> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for >> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs >> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, >> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and >> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents >> and ideas. >> >> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the >> traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at >> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and >> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. >> >> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. >> He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that >> wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers >> I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a >> history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. >> >> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I >> didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October >> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose >> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive >> and diverse future. >> >> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> John Ewell N1JIE >> >> n1jie at arrl.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> HCRA mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Choose to be safer online. > Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. > Plans starting as low as $6.95 per month.* > https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag695&promoCode=A34454 > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Choose to be safer online. > Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. > Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* > https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag995&promoCode=A23457 > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- > Phil Temples > > > -- > Phil Temples > > > -- > Phil Temples > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From nu1oscar at aol.com Wed Sep 22 11:20:52 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: <20210919.090856.794.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> <833474479.1277435.1632064575158@mail.yahoo.com> <1620116796.1845933.1632234487526@mail.yahoo.com> <517224342.1886118.1632241168327@mail.yahoo.com> <1094124834.1941794.1632249567833@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2108288476.227740.1632324052290@mail.yahoo.com> Phil, I had no idea that was a private email.? I thought all these emails were coming from the HCRA reflector.? Plus, now that I'm looking at old emails and the headers I see some of your emails to me were to the whole list while it seems one was to me solely. I sincerely apologize for the mistake!? Had I known that was a private email I can assure you that I would have never replied to the whole list. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Cc: hcra at mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:07 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Chris, I don't appreciate your sharing our private correspondence with the entire HCRA list.? -Phil, K9HI On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:39 PM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA wrote: ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Phil, I think you're making a big political mistake by publicly supporting AB1OC.? If he loses, you run the risk of alienating those who supported the losing candidates, but it's your choice and you know what the consequences will be. With 15 directors it becomes a game of coalition building and that's why it's so hard to change the direction of that massive ship otherwise known as ARRL. For those who thought my comment about women was anti-feminist, the last candidate I publicly supported for an ARRL Director was Ria, Jairam, N2RJ. I got to know her as a member of the eHam DX forum.? She built a big DX station and has a background in computer data management.? I think she was the head of the computer dept, at Fox News at one time.? I'm pretty sure I made a nice donation to her campaign but that was several years ago. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 2:12 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view There are 15 directors.? If you're one director, you must find at least seven other allies to support your motion. I've been coaching AB1OC on potential allies on the current board.? Yes, it's a very conservative organization.? I've learned this well from attending two board meetings since I was appointed last September. Re talking to actual directors--yes. Re talking up your idea to K1VR--that's pretty much a non-starter. You should hope that AB1OC does win. Of the three candidates, he's the one who is most willing to entertain new ideas. Phil On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:19 PM wrote: I hope those who are all-in on AB1OC realize that even if he wins he's just one vote among many.? The ARRL was setup so that the status quo is almost always the outcome.? It's also a very conservative organization. I expect my proposal to build public stations in all 50 states to be rejected because too many directors won't want to spend endowment funds. Phil, all one can do is try.? That would be the case whether you were a regional Director.? Yes, talk to actual Directors.? AB1OC hasn't been elected yet. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:40 am Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view I will.? Understand, though, I'm a "back seat" bench warmer on the board with no vote.? But I can certainly talk it up among my fellow board members. I will also mention this to Fred Kemmerer. Phil On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:28 AM wrote: I'm glad you like the idea, Phil.? Why don't you try to get it implemented by talking about the idea with your colleagues at ARRL? Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:12 am Subject: Fwd: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Chris, You write: "...I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states.? Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station.? A basic station could be built for under $10,000.? I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn.? Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate.? I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model.? These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby.? It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby." That's an interesting idea, one that deserves further scrutiny. 73, Phil Temples,? K9HI ARRL Vice DirectorNew England Division ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA Date: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view To: hcra at mailman.qth.net ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ During the debate, it was revealed the ARRL's endowment is now $40 million.? Not long ago the endowment was $15 million but the bull market in the equities market over the past decade has no doubt been a factor in the big increase.? I've seen this with many not-for-profit organizations; the endowments just grow larger and larger much like a company or billionaire's net worth. The endowment becomes almost sacrosanct.? Why does the ARRL need an endowment of $40 million? With just a 5% return per annum, the endowment will be over $60 million in a decade.? Is the purpose of the endowment to just see how much money the ARRL can accumulate or is it supposed to be used to help the hobby grow? If the ARRL is really going to mirror the demographics of society at large, there needs to be a way for those who can't afford a station of their own to get actual on-air time with a real ham station. I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states.? Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station.? A basic station could be built for under $10,000.? I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn.? Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate.? I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model.? These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby.? It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby.? I expect many at the ARRL to resist such an idea, but does the ARRL really need a cash cushion of $40 million?? How much of an endowment is enough before some of the money is actually used on projects to bring new hams into the hobby?? Frankly, I'm getting tired of continually watching the endowment grow larger and larger when the hobby really needs a project as I have proposed. Chris? NU1O hcra at mailman.qth.net -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 9:08 am Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ You're 100% correct, Chris. That is why I wrote "express your "One person; One vote" opinion at the ballot box" in my email response last evening. We have 3 and only three candidates to choose from. If the issues matter all that much, everyone should make theirvoting choice very carefully. Otherwise, talk is cheap. John, WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re:? ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote.? All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box.? Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW.? You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby.? In essence, that's all I wrote.? Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen.? This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me.? Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago.? I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired.? They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI.? He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris? NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. 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This was my fault.? I own it.? I'm sincerely sorry for making public a confidential message.? I'm sorry that it happened and you can bet I'll pay more attention to these headers going forward.? I'm very embarrassed but rest assured it was not intentional. I have no quarrels with you, Phil. Again, mea culpa! Chris? NU1O hcra at mailman.qth.net -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Cc: hcra at mailman.qth.net Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2021 11:27 am Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view That would be quite impossible, Chris.? I didn't have posting privileges to the HCRA list.?My last email calling our private correspondence to your attention was posted only after the moderator's approval. -p. On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:21 AM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA wrote: ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Phil, I had no idea that was a private email.? I thought all these emails were coming from the HCRA reflector.? Plus, now that I'm looking at old emails and the headers I see some of your emails to me were to the whole list while it seems one was to me solely. I sincerely apologize for the mistake!? Had I known that was a private email I can assure you that I would have never replied to the whole list. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Cc: hcra at mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:07 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Chris, I don't appreciate your sharing our private correspondence with the entire HCRA list.? -Phil, K9HI <...>--?Phil Temples From nu1oscar at aol.com Wed Sep 22 14:09:58 2021 From: nu1oscar at aol.com (nu1oscar at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 18:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: References: <20210919.090856.794.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> <833474479.1277435.1632064575158@mail.yahoo.com> <1620116796.1845933.1632234487526@mail.yahoo.com> <517224342.1886118.1632241168327@mail.yahoo.com> <1094124834.1941794.1632249567833@mail.yahoo.com> <2108288476.227740.1632324052290@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1226622398.275562.1632334198224@mail.yahoo.com> I know.? I wanted to apologize to the whole group for my mistake.? The mistake has been made and there's nothing confidential in my apology message. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Marcel Lapierre To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2021 1:40 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view #yiv1551586555 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Umm Chris, you still are replying to the whole group. Phil's email and your reply went to the entire HCRA email list. Marcel, AA1WH From: hcra-bounces at mailman.qth.net on behalf of Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:20 AM To: hcra at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view?______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Phil, I had no idea that was a private email.? I thought all these emails were coming from the HCRA reflector.? Plus, now that I'm looking at old emails and the headers I see some of your emails to me were to the whole list while it seems one was to me solely. I sincerely apologize for the mistake!? Had I known that was a private email I can assure you that I would have never replied to the whole list. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Cc: hcra at mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:07 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Chris, I don't appreciate your sharing our private correspondence with the entire HCRA list.? -Phil, K9HI On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:39 PM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA wrote: ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Phil, I think you're making a big political mistake by publicly supporting AB1OC.? If he loses, you run the risk of alienating those who supported the losing candidates, but it's your choice and you know what the consequences will be. With 15 directors it becomes a game of coalition building and that's why it's so hard to change the direction of that massive ship otherwise known as ARRL. For those who thought my comment about women was anti-feminist, the last candidate I publicly supported for an ARRL Director was Ria, Jairam, N2RJ. I got to know her as a member of the eHam DX forum.? She built a big DX station and has a background in computer data management.? I think she was the head of the computer dept, at Fox News at one time.? I'm pretty sure I made a nice donation to her campaign but that was several years ago. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 2:12 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view There are 15 directors.? If you're one director, you must find at least seven other allies to support your motion. I've been coaching AB1OC on potential allies on the current board.? Yes, it's a very conservative organization.? I've learned this well from attending two board meetings since I was appointed last September. Re talking to actual directors--yes. Re talking up your idea to K1VR--that's pretty much a non-starter. You should hope that AB1OC does win. Of the three candidates, he's the one who is most willing to entertain new ideas. Phil On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:19 PM wrote: I hope those who are all-in on AB1OC realize that even if he wins he's just one vote among many.? The ARRL was setup so that the status quo is almost always the outcome.? It's also a very conservative organization. I expect my proposal to build public stations in all 50 states to be rejected because too many directors won't want to spend endowment funds. Phil, all one can do is try.? That would be the case whether you were a regional Director.? Yes, talk to actual Directors.? AB1OC hasn't been elected yet. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:40 am Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view I will.? Understand, though, I'm a "back seat" bench warmer on the board with no vote.? But I can certainly talk it up among my fellow board members. I will also mention this to Fred Kemmerer. Phil On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:28 AM wrote: I'm glad you like the idea, Phil.? Why don't you try to get it implemented by talking about the idea with your colleagues at ARRL? Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Phil Temples To: nu1oscar at aol.com Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:12 am Subject: Fwd: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view Chris, You write: "...I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states.? Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station.? A basic station could be built for under $10,000.? I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn.? Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate.? I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model.? These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby.? It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby." That's an interesting idea, one that deserves further scrutiny. 73, Phil Temples,? K9HI ARRL Vice DirectorNew England Division ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA Date: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view To: hcra at mailman.qth.net ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ During the debate, it was revealed the ARRL's endowment is now $40 million.? Not long ago the endowment was $15 million but the bull market in the equities market over the past decade has no doubt been a factor in the big increase.? I've seen this with many not-for-profit organizations; the endowments just grow larger and larger much like a company or billionaire's net worth. The endowment becomes almost sacrosanct.? Why does the ARRL need an endowment of $40 million? With just a 5% return per annum, the endowment will be over $60 million in a decade.? Is the purpose of the endowment to just see how much money the ARRL can accumulate or is it supposed to be used to help the hobby grow? If the ARRL is really going to mirror the demographics of society at large, there needs to be a way for those who can't afford a station of their own to get actual on-air time with a real ham station. I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states.? Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station.? A basic station could be built for under $10,000.? I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn.? Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate.? I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model.? These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby.? It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby.? I expect many at the ARRL to resist such an idea, but does the ARRL really need a cash cushion of $40 million?? How much of an endowment is enough before some of the money is actually used on projects to bring new hams into the hobby?? Frankly, I'm getting tired of continually watching the endowment grow larger and larger when the hobby really needs a project as I have proposed. Chris? NU1O hcra at mailman.qth.net -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 9:08 am Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ You're 100% correct, Chris. That is why I wrote "express your "One person; One vote" opinion at the ballot box" in my email response last evening. We have 3 and only three candidates to choose from. If the issues matter all that much, everyone should make theirvoting choice very carefully. Otherwise, talk is cheap. John, WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re:? ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote.? All talk and no action types. Thanks for your service to our country! Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: John Bourque To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box.? Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW.? You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to. My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby.? In essence, that's all I wrote.? Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts. Chris? NU1O -----Original Message----- From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ Cc: HCRA Email List Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Chris, This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I most likely wouldn't still be a ham. Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some feathers. This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. 73, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen.? This is 2021, > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked > to about ham radio have told me.? Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > about 5 years ago.? I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others.. > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening, > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a > spouse. > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > fully retired.? They now have the time and money to buy and use a station, > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > candidate who thinks that's possible. > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI.? He's done a great job with the New England QSO > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very > active ham for decades. > 73, > Chris? NU1O > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ewell > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high > altitude balloon tracking. > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > and ideas. > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field. > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > and diverse future. > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > Sincerely, > > John Ewell N1JIE > > n1jie at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ____________________________________________________________ Choose to be safer online. 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If he loses, you run the risk of alienating those who supported the > losing candidates, but it's your choice and you know what the consequences > will be. > With 15 directors it becomes a game of coalition building and that's why > it's so hard to change the direction of that massive ship otherwise known > as ARRL. > For those who thought my comment about women was anti-feminist, the last > candidate I publicly supported for an ARRL Director was Ria, Jairam, N2RJ. > I got to know her as a member of the eHam DX forum. She built a big DX > station and has a background in computer data management. I think she was > the head of the computer dept, at Fox News at one time. I'm pretty sure I > made a nice donation to her campaign but that was several years ago. > Chris NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Temples > To: nu1oscar at aol.com > Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 2:12 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > There are 15 directors. If you're one director, you must find at least > seven other allies to support your motion. I've been coaching AB1OC on > potential allies on the current board. > Yes, it's a very conservative organization. I've learned this well from > attending two board meetings since I was appointed last September. > Re talking to actual directors--yes. Re talking up your idea to > K1VR--that's pretty much a non-starter. You should hope that AB1OC does > win. Of the three candidates, he's the one who is most willing to entertain > new ideas. > Phil > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:19 PM wrote: > > I hope those who are all-in on AB1OC realize that even if he wins he's > just one vote among many. The ARRL was setup so that the status quo is > almost always the outcome. It's also a very conservative organization. I > expect my proposal to build public stations in all 50 states to be rejected > because too many directors won't want to spend endowment funds. > Phil, all one can do is try. That would be the case whether you were a > regional Director. Yes, talk to actual Directors. AB1OC hasn't been > elected yet. > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Temples > To: nu1oscar at aol.com > Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:40 am > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > I will. Understand, though, I'm a "back seat" bench warmer on the board > with no vote. But I can certainly talk it up among my fellow board > members. I will also mention this to Fred Kemmerer. > Phil > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:28 AM wrote: > > I'm glad you like the idea, Phil. Why don't you try to get it implemented > by talking about the idea with your colleagues at ARRL? > Chris NU1O > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Temples > To: nu1oscar at aol.com > Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:12 am > Subject: Fwd: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > Chris, > You write: > "...I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for > public use in all 50 states. Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and > other large states would need more than one station. A basic station could > be built for under $10,000. I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom > 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will > turn. Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured > properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings > (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on > real estate. I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model. These > stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot > where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big > advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 > million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a > project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the > hobby. It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn > about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in > their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry > for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby." > > That's an interesting idea, one that deserves further scrutiny. > 73, > Phil Temples, K9HI > ARRL Vice DirectorNew England Division > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > Date: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:17 AM > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > To: hcra at mailman.qth.net > > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > During the debate, it was revealed the ARRL's endowment is now $40 > million. Not long ago the endowment was $15 million but the bull market in > the equities market over the past decade has no doubt been a factor in the > big increase. I've seen this with many not-for-profit organizations; the > endowments just grow larger and larger much like a company or billionaire's > net worth. The endowment becomes almost sacrosanct. > > Why does the ARRL need an endowment of $40 million? With just a 5% return > per annum, the endowment will be over $60 million in a decade. Is the > purpose of the endowment to just see how much money the ARRL can accumulate > or is it supposed to be used to help the hobby grow? > If the ARRL is really going to mirror the demographics of society at > large, there needs to be a way for those who can't afford a station of > their own to get actual on-air time with a real ham station. I propose > using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all > 50 states. Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states > would need more than one station. A basic station could be built for under > $10,000. I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam > like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn. Members could > also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the > donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, > libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real > estate. I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model. These stations > could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where > beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big > advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 > million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a > project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the > hobby. It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn > about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in > their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry > for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby. > I expect many at the ARRL to resist such an idea, but does the ARRL really > need a cash cushion of $40 million? How much of an endowment is enough > before some of the money is actually used on projects to bring new hams > into the hobby? Frankly, I'm getting tired of continually watching the > endowment grow larger and larger when the hobby really needs a project as I > have proposed. > Chris NU1O > > hcra at mailman.qth.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bourque > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 9:08 am > Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > You're 100% correct, Chris. That is why I wrote "express your "One person; > One vote" opinion at the ballot box" in my email response last evening. We > have 3 and only three candidates to choose from. If the issues matter all > that much, everyone should make theirvoting choice very carefully. > Otherwise, talk is cheap. John, WA1JKB > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote > posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types. > Thanks for your service to our country! > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bourque > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm > Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express > this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years > active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely > express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't > agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now > get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA > To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC) > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or > put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't > write a word about the things you referred to. > My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not > waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. > In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't > handle actual facts. > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ > Cc: HCRA Email List > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Chris, > > This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of > the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support > I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I > most likely wouldn't still be a ham. > > Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm > not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I > should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a > blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test. > These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the > hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed. > > Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital > modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth > demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For > example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was > introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered > digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating. > > We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger > demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to > change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left. > > Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't > speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some > feathers. > > This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and > enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do > doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham. > > 73, > Nick K1NZ > > > On the Droid. > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < > hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > > > ______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that > > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him. > > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think > > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021, > > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view > our > > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've > talked > > to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen > > about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air > > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a > > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support > > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and > others.. > > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that > happening, > > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant > > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to > please a > > spouse. > > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with > > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or > > fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a > station, > > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past > > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining > the > > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's > > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a > > candidate who thinks that's possible. > > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO > > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project > and > > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a > very > > active ham for decades. > > 73, > > Chris NU1O > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Ewell > > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer > > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm > > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view > > > > ______________________________________________ > > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > > ______________________________________________ > > > > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election > > > > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand > > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region. > > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are > very > > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an > > actualchoice in candidates for our region. > > > > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, > K1VR > > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the > > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society. > > > > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my > > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and > > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We > > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite > > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was > able > > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my > background > > is in powergeneration, not electronics). > > > > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he > > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school > contacts,and high > > altitude balloon tracking. > > > > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the > > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto > > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for > > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio > clubs > > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement, > > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, > and > > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents > > and ideas. > > > > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the > > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and > startlooking at > > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and > > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us. > > > > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the > field. > > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that > > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best > speakers > > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and > has a > > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to. > > > > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I > > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. > So,beginning October > > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose > > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive > > and diverse future. > > > > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > John Ewell N1JIE > > > > n1jie at arrl.net > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > > HCRA mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Choose to be safer online. > Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. > Plans starting as low as $6.95 per month.* > > https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag695&promoCode=A34454 > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Choose to be safer online. > Opt-in to Cyber Safety with NortonLifeLock. > Get Norton 360 with LifeLock starting at $9.95/month.* > > https://store.netzero.net/account/showService.do?serviceId=nz-nLifeLock&utm_source=mktg&utm_medium=taglines&utm_campaign=nzlifelk_launch&utm_content=tag995&promoCode=A23457 > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- > Phil Temples > > > -- > Phil Temples > > > -- > Phil Temples > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Phil Temples From phil at temples.com Wed Sep 22 11:27:52 2021 From: phil at temples.com (Phil Temples) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:27:52 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <2108288476.227740.1632324052290@mail.yahoo.com> References: <20210919.090856.794.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> <833474479.1277435.1632064575158@mail.yahoo.com> <1620116796.1845933.1632234487526@mail.yahoo.com> <517224342.1886118.1632241168327@mail.yahoo.com> <1094124834.1941794.1632249567833@mail.yahoo.com> <2108288476.227740.1632324052290@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That would be quite impossible, Chris. I didn't have posting privileges to the HCRA list. My last email calling our private correspondence to your attention was posted only after the moderator's approval. -p. On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:21 AM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > Phil, > I had no idea that was a private email. I thought all these emails were > coming from the HCRA reflector. Plus, now that I'm looking at old emails > and the headers I see some of your emails to me were to the whole list > while it seems one was to me solely. > I sincerely apologize for the mistake! Had I known that was a private > email I can assure you that I would have never replied to the whole list. > Chris NU1O > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Temples > To: nu1oscar at aol.com > Cc: hcra at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:07 pm > Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view > > Chris, > I don't appreciate your sharing our private correspondence with the entire > HCRA list. > -Phil, K9HI > > <...> -- Phil Temples From rich at powder-hound.com Thu Sep 23 10:29:55 2021 From: rich at powder-hound.com (Rich) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 07:29:55 -0700 Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view In-Reply-To: <2E6A7A9D-F7CB-438B-811D-E17B51728CAE@powder-hound.com> References: <2E6A7A9D-F7CB-438B-811D-E17B51728CAE@powder-hound.com> Message-ID: <1C8D6EAD-86E5-41C7-844D-8CD89E442A3B@powder-hound.com> Welp, seems like I?ve made it to the bottom of the bucket. I?m all out of popcorn. A fun and delicious addition to some high-quality entertainment. And, what about that ending?!?! So sweet!!! Guess I will save the Milk Duds for another time. So much for installing those filters and letting a potentially valuable viewpoint be considered. Hell, the olive branch was even extended once or twice. Geee?I wonder what is wrong with amateur radio? 73! KB1WDW > >> On Sep 22, 2021, at 17:40, Phil Temples wrote: >> >> That would be quite impossible, Chris. I didn't have posting privileges to >> the HCRA list. My last email calling our private correspondence to your >> attention was posted only after the moderator's approval. >> >> -p. >> >>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:21 AM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA < >>> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > >>> Phil, >>> I had no idea that was a private email. I thought all these emails were >>> coming from the HCRA reflector. Plus, now that I'm looking at old emails >>> and the headers I see some of your emails to me were to the whole list >>> while it seems one was to me solely. >>> I sincerely apologize for the mistake! Had I known that was a private >>> email I can assure you that I would have never replied to the whole list. >>> Chris NU1O >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Phil Temples >>> To: nu1oscar at aol.com >>> Cc: hcra at mailman.qth.net >>> Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:07 pm >>> Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view >>> >>> Chris, >>> I don't appreciate your sharing our private correspondence with the entire >>> HCRA list. >>> -Phil, K9HI >>> From kd1ku at yahoo.com Mon Sep 27 15:00:12 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:00:12 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] HCRA 10 Meter Net Reminder References: <5e9795ca-9f82-7817-d13f-b09d57d5c24e.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5e9795ca-9f82-7817-d13f-b09d57d5c24e@yahoo.com> Hello HCRA Friends! Just a reminder that tonight is the 10 meter net beginning at 7pm on 28.375 usb. We're back to the weekly nets every Monday evening! Tonight's net (9/27) starts at 7pm on 28.375 usb Topic: Interesting projects you have worked on (does not have to be ham related) All licensed hams are welcome to participate regardless of club affiliation or location Even if you can't participate I'm open to new ideas for net topics, they don't have to be ham related. If you have any ideas please send them to kd1ku at arrl.net 73, Ken ~ KD1KU Zero Beat Editor Join Hampden County Radio Association Visit HCRA.org From kd1ku at yahoo.com Wed Sep 29 02:58:07 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 02:58:07 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] October Zero Beat References: <9fbe76fc-3f9f-0531-7408-29e32254abc8.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9fbe76fc-3f9f-0531-7408-29e32254abc8@yahoo.com> The October issue of Zero Beat is out just in time for your viewing pleasure. The download link is listed below or you can go to hcra.org and download it from there. Also it's avable on Facebook if you should care to go that route. The link is now available and I apologize if it is later than normal. Don't forget the meeting is this Friday evening, doors open at 7pm for a friendly ragchew session then the main meeting is at 7:30pm. I hope to see everybody there this Friday at 7pm. 73, Ken ~ KD1KU Zero Beat Editor Join Hampden County Radio Association Visit HCRA.org From kd1ku at yahoo.com Wed Sep 29 03:08:44 2021 From: kd1ku at yahoo.com (Ken, KD1KU) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 03:08:44 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] October Zero Beat (revised) References: <81096abe-9bc3-7885-f067-e66c74d37aec.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <81096abe-9bc3-7885-f067-e66c74d37aec@yahoo.com> The October issue of Zero Beat is out just in time for your viewing pleasure. The download link is listed below or you can go to hcra.org and download it from there. Also it's avable on Facebook if you should care to go that route. The link is now available and I apologize if it is later than normal. Don't forget the meeting is this Friday evening, doors open at 7pm for a friendly ragchew session then the main meeting is at 7:30pm. I hope to see everybody there this Friday at 7pm. Here is the download link to DL the October Issue of Zero Beat: http://www.hcra.org/zb/download.php?file=oct21.pdf The link below this will open the new Zero Beat without downloading it. http://www.hcra.org/zb/oct21.pdf Enjoy! 73, Ken ~ KD1KU Zero Beat Editor Join Hampden County Radio Association Visit HCRA.org From wb1dby at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 17:11:31 2021 From: wb1dby at gmail.com (Larry Krainson) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 17:11:31 -0400 Subject: [HCRA] NEAR-Fest is on! Message-ID: Dear Member Clubs: ? Good News! NEAR-FEST XXX is ON! We are looking forward to seeing all our friends, new and old, after a very long two-year absence at Deerfield at 0900 on Friday October 15th. Although there are no state or local mandates we want everybody to feel safe at NEAR-Fest. We are asking all attendees to bring their own preferred masks and hand sanitizer. PLEASE respect the wishes of others and wear a mask when inside any of our buildings and observe a 10? or 2m distance from others whenever possible. We also request that you don your mask when interacting with any member of our staff, inside or outside. They have expressed their concerns. Remember if we didn?t have them we could not do NEAR-Fest! Kindly honor their wishes. Tickets will be on sale at the gate. Admission is $15 per person and $10 for inside parking which includes flea market selling space. You can save $5 on your admission tickets if you buy them in advance. They are available BY MAIL (do not mail later than Monday October 5th)Mail to NEAR-Fest, 316 Atlantic Avenue, Marblehead MA 01945, checks or money order payable to NEAR-Fest and a self-addressed stamped envelope. Also available in person at Ham Radio Outlet in Salem NH and at Ross W1EKG?s clock shop, 40 Walnut Street in Whitman MA. I have simply not had the help or the time to do the club passes and time is getting very short. I will try to do them this week. However I am working at the Deerfield Fair so if you don't get them in the mail you will be able to pick them up from Carl AB1DD at the Gate G entrance at 0800 Friday morning. The new passes are valid for this one and both the 2022 NEAR-Fests. We look forward to our ?Grand Homecoming?. It has been a very long two years. 73, MisterMike, W1RC PS: Don?t forget to attend the ARRL Division Director candidates ?Town Hall? meeting on Friday. See our web site www.near-fest.com for details. Larry, W1AST HCRA President - Visit my Ham Radio club website at: www.HCRA.org - Team K2H - 13 Colonies Massachusetts State Manager