From nt1k at nt1k.com Tue Dec 1 07:08:30 2015 From: nt1k at nt1k.com (Jeffrey Bail - NT1K) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 07:08:30 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] New Zero Beat / Holiday Party !!! Message-ID: Hello, There is a new version of Zero Beat hot off the digital press. A big thanks to Gary Fields (WA1MOW) and to those who submitted articles/information. Gary depends on you for content so please keep him and HCRA in mind on your next project. You can download it by visiting http://www.hcra.org/zb/dec15.pdf ----------------------------- HCRA/MTARA Joint Holiday Party The holiday party is just a week away!! I personally can't wait to have some good food with good company. Thanks to all those who purchased tickets. We may have a couple left so if you waited, you still might be able to go. Just shoot me an e-mail if your interested. Monday, December 7th 2015. Steaming Tender Resturant Depot Rd. Palmer MA Doors open at 6, Dinner starts at 7 See you there! ---------------------------- January Meeting Since we're having the holiday party. There will be no general meeting at Holyoke Medical center. Due to New Year's day being on a Friday, the January meeting has moved to Monday January 8th. January's meeting is a special one! Jeff Jolie (NM1Y) who was part of the K1N DXpedition will be talking about his adventures to Navassa island which was one of the most wanted DX entities according to Clublog. They had to deal with a lot of red tape and a difficult and expensive journey to Navassa. Due to the speaker we will be inviting other clubs to join in ------------------------- Thanks, Jeff (NT1K) From computercare at comcast.net Fri Dec 4 13:51:49 2015 From: computercare at comcast.net (Larry Krainson) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 13:51:49 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] HELP NEEDED - Read Below Message-ID: HELP NEEDED: George, KC1V needs help on Saturday putting rebar cages for the guy wire anchors into their holes before the concrete is poured for is tower supports. George needs help lifting, moving and placing them in the holes as they are too heavy for him to move by himself. He thinks he needs 4 people. Are you available? Please contact George at: 860-670-3028 if you can help. He is planning on working on this, if help arrives at 10 am Saturday (tomorrow) at his house address of 105 Ninth District Road, Somers, CT. Any questions or a different d=time availability, please call George at the number above. From computercare at comcast.net Fri Dec 4 19:44:04 2015 From: computercare at comcast.net (Larry Krainson) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 19:44:04 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] Help Needed Tomorrow Morning - Can You Donate an Hour? Message-ID: 2nd Request as so far only one person has responded. Tomorrow's wx is supposed to be beautiful! Come out and help a fellow ham. It may only use an hour of your time! Help him get this in place before it gets really cold and starts snowing. Read below: HELP NEEDED: George, KC1V needs help on Saturday putting rebar cages for the guy wire anchors into their holes before the concrete is poured for is tower supports. George needs help lifting, moving and placing them in the holes as they are too heavy for him to move by himself. He thinks he needs 4 people. Are you available? Please contact George at: 860-670-3028 if you can help. He is planning on working on this, if help arrives at 10 am Saturday (tomorrow) at his house address of 105 Ninth District Road, Somers, CT. Any questions or a different d=time availability, please call George at the number above. Thank you! From BrianDive at aol.com Fri Dec 4 20:08:00 2015 From: BrianDive at aol.com (BrianDive at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:08:00 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] Help Needed Tomorrow Morning - Can You Donate an Hour? Message-ID: <2f0127.13ba759a.439392f0@aol.com> I will be there around 9:45, Hope there's coffee....... LOL KC1BDF Brian In a message dated 12/4/2015 7:47:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, computercare at comcast.net writes: ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ 2nd Request as so far only one person has responded. Tomorrow's wx is supposed to be beautiful! Come out and help a fellow ham. It may only use an hour of your time! Help him get this in place before it gets really cold and starts snowing. Read below: HELP NEEDED: George, KC1V needs help on Saturday putting rebar cages for the guy wire anchors into their holes before the concrete is poured for is tower supports. George needs help lifting, moving and placing them in the holes as they are too heavy for him to move by himself. He thinks he needs 4 people. Are you available? Please contact George at: 860-670-3028 if you can help. He is planning on working on this, if help arrives at 10 am Saturday (tomorrow) at his house address of 105 Ninth District Road, Somers, CT. Any questions or a different d=time availability, please call George at the number above. Thank you! ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From computercare at comcast.net Sat Dec 5 17:58:28 2015 From: computercare at comcast.net (Larry Krainson) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 17:58:28 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] Many Thanks! Message-ID: George, KC1V would like to extend his thanks to all those that showed up at his house this morning! He appreciated the help VERY much! Thank you for coming out! From nt1k at nt1k.com Mon Dec 7 10:13:05 2015 From: nt1k at nt1k.com (Jeffrey Bail - NT1K) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:13:05 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] Joint HCRA/MTARA Holiday Party is tonight! Message-ID: Just informing you that tonight is the joint HCRA/MTARA holiday part at the Steaming Tender in Palmer Massachusetts. If you purchased tickets, thank you very much! There is a good time to be had by all with delicious food and some door prizes to make things more interesting. Doors will open at 6:00pm and Dinner should start around 7:00pm. For more information, you can visit the steaming tender website http://steamingtender.com/ ---------------------------- January 2016 Meeting. Due to New Years Day landing on a Friday, our regular meeting will held on the 2nd Friday, January 8th 2016. January's speaker will be Jeff Jolie (NM1Y). he was part of the K1N DXpedition team to Navassa Island. Due to restricted access to the island, Navassa was considered to be one of the most wanted DX stations next to North Korea according to multiple sources. They've manged to get through 15 years of red tape, gain access to the island and made well over 140,000 contacts. It wasn't cheap or easy to pull off. Stop by our Meeting on Friday January 8th to hear Jeff speak about his trip to Navassa. I would consider this a must attend meeting. We will be inviting other clubs to attend. Hope to see you there! 73, Jeffrey Bail (NT1K) HCRA President From nt1k at nt1k.com Mon Dec 14 08:49:54 2015 From: nt1k at nt1k.com (Jeffrey Bail - NT1K) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:49:54 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] ARRL 10M Scores Needed / HCRA Upcoming Events Message-ID: Hello, I've heard a lot of HCRA members in the ARRL 10M contest this past weekend. It was great to make contact with you. Conditions this weekend were not the best but it was still fun to get on the air. You may already know but HCRA participates as a club in this contest. Before sending in your logs, make sure "Hampden County Radio Assn" is listed as your club in the cabrillo file or score summary sheet. You will still get credit and points for the contest but you also help out HCRA's club score. We would also ask that you send your score summary and your soapbox (comments about the contest) to scores at hcra.org . This will give us an idea of what we did as a club as well as some content for the website. ----------------------------- January Meeting Due to the New Years Day holiday landing on a Friday, the meeting date has been pushed to the following Friday on January 8th. Please take note. Our guest speaker will be Jeffrey Jolie (NM1Y). He was part of the DXpedition team that went to Navassa Island and operated as K1N. Navassa was considered to be the 2nd most wanted DXpedition behind North Korea due to the restricted access as a wildlife reserve. While there, Jeff and the team managed to make just over 140,000 contacts. He will be speaking about his adventure to Navassa. We will be opening our doors to area clubs and to the general public. If you know of anyone who would like to see this presentation, please invite them along. ------------- April Show and Tell HCRA will be holding its annual show and tell on Friday April 1st. This is not an April fools joke. If you have been working on an amateur radio related project over the past year or so, bring it to the April meeting and show it off to your fellow members. To make it more interesting, we will have prizes that will go to the most popular entries. So if you haven't started, now is the time! Prizes available to members only. ---------------- ARRL Field Day Didn't we just have a Field Day? It sure did feel that way but it's around 6 months away. We are currently looking for volunteers for the Field Day committee, Band Captains as well a volunteers to help with setup, tear down, publicity and the many other things that we will need as a club. Thanks for reading, 73, Jeffrey Bail (NT1K) (Sorry if this went out twice) From alan.dove at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 08:18:39 2015 From: alan.dove at gmail.com (Alan Dove) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:18:39 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] FAA Drone Registration References: Message-ID: <51CC8367-DA60-478E-A39D-9832761B0453@gmail.com> Hey, folks: This isn?t directly radio related, but I know several members of the group own camera drones. New FAA rules now require registering any RC aircraft that weigh more than 250g, which includes nearly all of the current quadcopters. See the press release below for details. Whether you agree with this policy or not, it?s now the law of the land, and this is definitely not an agency to mess with. ?Alan (AB1XW) -- Alan Dove, Ph.D. Web: turbidplaque.com Phone: 917.273.0544 Skype: alandove Twitter: @alandove > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "FAASafety.gov" > Subject: "FAA Announces Small UAS Registration Rule" - FAASafety.gov > Date: 14 December 2015 at 17:48:31 EST > To: alan.dove at gmail.com > > FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education > FAA Announces Small UAS Registration Rule > Notice Number: NOTC6328 > > > Press Release ? For Immediate Release > > December 14, 2015 > Contact: Les Dorr or Alison Duquette > Phone: (202) 267-3883 > > Registration will be free for the first 30 days! > > WASHINGTON ? The U.S. Department of Transportation?s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today announced a streamlined and user-friendly web-based aircraft registration process for owners of small unmanned aircraft (UAS) weighing more than 0.55 pounds (250 grams) and less than 55 pounds (approx. 25 kilograms) including payloads such as on-board cameras. > > The Registration Task Force delivered recommendations to FAA Administrator Michael Huerta and Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx on November 21. The rule incorporates many of the task force recommendations. > > ?Make no mistake: unmanned aircraft enthusiast are aviators, and with that title comes a great deal of responsibility,? said U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. ?Registration gives us an opportunity to work with these users to operate their unmanned aircraft safely. I?m excited to welcome these new aviators into the culture of safety and responsibility that defines American innovation.? > > Registration is a statutory requirement that applies to all aircraft. Under this rule, any owner of a small UAS who has previously operated an unmanned aircraft exclusively as a model aircraft prior to December 21, 2015, must register no later than February 19, 2016. Owners of any other UAS purchased for use as a model aircraft after December 21, 2015 must register before the first flight outdoors. Owners may use either the paper-based process or the new streamlined, web-based system. Owners using the new streamlined web-based system must be at least 13 years old to register. > > Owners may register through a web-based system at: www.faa.gov/uas/registration > Registrants will need to provide their name, home address and e-mail address. Upon completion of the registration process, the web application will generate a Certificate of Aircraft Registration/Proof of Ownership that will include a unique identification number for the UAS owner, which must be marked on the aircraft. > > Owners using the model aircraft for hobby or recreation will only have to register once and may use the same identification number for all of their model UAS. The registration is valid for three years. > > The normal registration fee is $5, but in an effort to encourage as many people as possible to register quickly, the FAA is waiving this fee for the first 30 days (from Dec. 21, 2015 to Jan 20, 2016). > > ?We expect hundreds of thousands of model unmanned aircraft will be purchased this holiday season,? said FAA Administrator Huerta. ?Registration gives us the opportunity to educate these new airspace users before they fly so they know the airspace rules and understand they are accountable to the public for flying responsibly.? > > The online registration system does not yet support registration of small UAS used for any purpose other than hobby or recreation ? for example, using an unmanned aircraft in connection with a business. The FAA is developing enhancements that will allow such online registrations by spring of 2016. > > The full rule can be viewed here: www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/20151213_IFR.pdf > For questions regarding this notice, contact Ken Kelley, AFS-850 by email at Ken.R.Kelley at faa.gov or by telephone at (775) 858-7700 Ex 258. > > > This notice is being sent to you because you selected "General Information" in your preferences on FAASafety.gov . If you wish to adjust your selections, log into https://www.faasafety.gov/Users/pub/preferences.aspx where you can update your preferences. > > Invite a fellow pilot to the next WINGS Safety Seminar in your area. > > FAASafety.gov | Email Preferences | Opt Out > Do not reply to this email as it is an unmonitored mailbox. Contact us for comments or questions. From w1eqo at shaysnet.com Tue Dec 15 10:22:31 2015 From: w1eqo at shaysnet.com (w1eqo at shaysnet.com) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:22:31 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] FAA Drone Registration Message-ID: <380-2201512215152231819@M2W152.mail2web.com> This needs to be forwarded to all ducks, geese, etc. Perhaps also to the folks at UMass who have been raising eagles at Quabbin. I wouldn't suppose the turkeys need to register as they typically don't fly high enough. Jim, W1EQO Original email: ----------------- From: Alan Dove alan.dove at gmail.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:18:39 -0500 To: hcra at mailman.qth.net Subject: [HCRA] FAA Drone Registration ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ Hey, folks: This isn???t directly radio related, but I know several members of the group own camera drones. New FAA rules now require registering any RC aircraft that weigh more than 250g, which includes nearly all of the current quadcopters. See the press release below for details. Whether you agree with this policy or not, it???s now the law of the land, and this is definitely not an agency to mess with. ???Alan (AB1XW) -- Alan Dove, Ph.D. Web: turbidplaque.com Phone: 917.273.0544 Skype: alandove Twitter: @alandove > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "FAASafety.gov" > Subject: "FAA Announces Small UAS Registration Rule" - FAASafety.gov > Date: 14 December 2015 at 17:48:31 EST > To: alan.dove at gmail.com > > FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education > FAA Announces Small UAS Registration Rule > Notice Number: NOTC6328 > > > Press Release ??? For Immediate Release > > December 14, 2015 > Contact: Les Dorr or Alison Duquette > Phone: (202) 267-3883 > > Registration will be free for the first 30 days! > > WASHINGTON ??? The U.S. Department of Transportation???s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today announced a streamlined and user-friendly web-based aircraft registration process for owners of small unmanned aircraft (UAS) weighing more than 0.55 pounds (250 grams) and less than 55 pounds (approx. 25 kilograms) including payloads such as on-board cameras. > > The Registration Task Force delivered recommendations to FAA Administrator Michael Huerta and Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx on November 21. The rule incorporates many of the task force recommendations. > > ???Make no mistake: unmanned aircraft enthusiast are aviators, and with that title comes a great deal of responsibility,??? said U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. ???Registration gives us an opportunity to work with these users to operate their unmanned aircraft safely. I???m excited to welcome these new aviators into the culture of safety and responsibility that defines American innovation.??? > > Registration is a statutory requirement that applies to all aircraft. Under this rule, any owner of a small UAS who has previously operated an unmanned aircraft exclusively as a model aircraft prior to December 21, 2015, must register no later than February 19, 2016. Owners of any other UAS purchased for use as a model aircraft after December 21, 2015 must register before the first flight outdoors. Owners may use either the paper-based process or the new streamlined, web-based system. Owners using the new streamlined web-based system must be at least 13 years old to register. > > Owners may register through a web-based system at: www.faa.gov/uas/registration > Registrants will need to provide their name, home address and e-mail address. Upon completion of the registration process, the web application will generate a Certificate of Aircraft Registration/Proof of Ownership that will include a unique identification number for the UAS owner, which must be marked on the aircraft. > > Owners using the model aircraft for hobby or recreation will only have to register once and may use the same identification number for all of their model UAS. The registration is valid for three years. > > The normal registration fee is $5, but in an effort to encourage as many people as possible to register quickly, the FAA is waiving this fee for the first 30 days (from Dec. 21, 2015 to Jan 20, 2016). > > ???We expect hundreds of thousands of model unmanned aircraft will be purchased this holiday season,??? said FAA Administrator Huerta. ???Registration gives us the opportunity to educate these new airspace users before they fly so they know the airspace rules and understand they are accountable to the public for flying responsibly.??? > > The online registration system does not yet support registration of small UAS used for any purpose other than hobby or recreation ??? for example, using an unmanned aircraft in connection with a business. The FAA is developing enhancements that will allow such online registrations by spring of 2016. > > The full rule can be viewed here: www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/20151213_IFR.pdf > For questions regarding this notice, contact Ken Kelley, AFS-850 by email at Ken.R.Kelley at faa.gov or by telephone at (775) 858-7700 Ex 258. > > > This notice is being sent to you because you selected "General Information" in your preferences on FAASafety.gov . If you wish to adjust your selections, log into https://www.faasafety.gov/Users/pub/preferences.aspx where you can update your preferences. > > Invite a fellow pilot to the next WINGS Safety Seminar in your area. > > FAASafety.gov | Email Preferences | Opt Out > Do not reply to this email as it is an unmonitored mailbox. Contact us for comments or questions. ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web From alan.dove at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 10:52:13 2015 From: alan.dove at gmail.com (Alan Dove) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:52:13 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] FAA Drone Registration In-Reply-To: <380-2201512215152231819@M2W152.mail2web.com> References: <380-2201512215152231819@M2W152.mail2web.com> Message-ID: Hey, folks: I don?t want to turn this into a flamewar about federal regulation, but as a pilot I want to point out that amateur-flown drones present a far greater threat to real aircraft than many hobbyists realize. These things are easily capable of taking out engines and windshields if struck at speed, and the new control systems make it way too easy for folks to stray into controlled airspace with them. The FAA had relied on a ?common sense? approach to regulating model aircraft for decades, but a number of recent close calls showed that sense is no longer common enough. As usual, a few idiots made things worse for everyone else, so now all RC pilots need to register. I?m not happy that this was necessary, but it was. Yes, birds also pose a serious threat to aircraft and always have. The difference is that drones are operated by humans who should know better - and who can and should be held liable for whatever damage they cause. Registration is the mechanism for that. ?Alan (AB1XW) -- Alan Dove, Ph.D. Web: turbidplaque.com Phone: 917.273.0544 Skype: alandove Twitter: @alandove From w1eqo at shaysnet.com Tue Dec 15 14:32:20 2015 From: w1eqo at shaysnet.com (w1eqo at shaysnet.com) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:32:20 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] FAA Drone Registration Message-ID: <380-2201512215193220794@M2W152.mail2web.com> I also don't want to belabor the point, but ask this: 1. How high do .55 lb drones fly? Remember that weight includes unimportant stuff like battery, props (4 min), frame, etc. Did I forget motors & limited range transceiver? 2. Did I mention limited range transceiver, as how far can you get with a milliwatt at 2.45 GHz? 3. Now if you were to regulate model helicopters which have been flying for a long time (> 35 years), I might agree. These do have fuel and weight to go somewhere. And require a small amount of skill to fly. 4. I see this as a placation for the masses. The same masses who won't read the info the FAA sends, and if they do, probably won't understand it. 5. And I do understand there are the brainless who will attempt to fly near an airport. Can those ever be stopped? So...we know laws don't work unless there is enforcement. Who is going to do this? The gun toting bunch like we have now? So if there is a problem, ban the things. But the cry goes "that's against the Constitution." Was the ban against the manufacture, sale, and importation of scanners that cover our 800 MHz cell phone band against the Constitution? Apparently not. The FCC, in corporation with Newt, and Congress, did it. What's the FAA? A bunch of whimps? Jim, W1EQO PS Please don't reply to this. This site is, and should be about radio. The only good use I see for a quadcopter is to make real antenna pattern measurements. Original email: ----------------- From: Alan Dove alan.dove at gmail.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:52:13 -0500 To: hcra at mailman.qth.net, w1eqo at shaysnet.com Subject: Re: [HCRA] FAA Drone Registration Hey, folks: I don?t want to turn this into a flamewar about federal regulation, but as a pilot I want to point out that amateur-flown drones present a far greater threat to real aircraft than many hobbyists realize. These things are easily capable of taking out engines and windshields if struck at speed, and the new control systems make it way too easy for folks to stray into controlled airspace with them. The FAA had relied on a ?common sense? approach to regulating model aircraft for decades, but a number of recent close calls showed that sense is no longer common enough. As usual, a few idiots made things worse for everyone else, so now all RC pilots need to register. I?m not happy that this was necessary, but it was. Yes, birds also pose a serious threat to aircraft and always have. The difference is that drones are operated by humans who should know better - and who can and should be held liable for whatever damage they cause. Registration is the mechanism for that. ?Alan (AB1XW) -- Alan Dove, Ph.D. Web: turbidplaque.com Phone: 917.273.0544 Skype: alandove Twitter: @alandove -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ? Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft? Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail From kb1vky at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 10:41:45 2015 From: kb1vky at gmail.com (AB1WT Jeff) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:41:45 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] FAA Drone Registration In-Reply-To: <380-2201512215193220794@M2W152.mail2web.com> References: <380-2201512215193220794@M2W152.mail2web.com> Message-ID: i know you said not to reply but i need to say this. i believe the hcra website needs a bulletinboard/forum. there are many issues which the club would like to discuss, like the drones but can't because it is not radio related. if we add a bulletinboard/forum to the website, us club members could have a place discuss issues like the drones and anything else. bulletinboards/forums are very easy to add to websites and i belong to quite a few of them. this is just a thought. jeff ab1wt On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:32 PM, w1eqo at shaysnet.com wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > I also don't want to belabor the point, but ask this: > > 1. How high do .55 lb drones fly? Remember that weight includes unimportant > stuff like battery, props (4 min), frame, etc. Did I forget motors & > limited range transceiver? > > 2. Did I mention limited range transceiver, as how far can you get with a > milliwatt at 2.45 GHz? > > 3. Now if you were to regulate model helicopters which have been flying for > a long time (> 35 years), I might agree. These do have fuel and weight to > go somewhere. And require a small amount of skill to fly. > > 4. I see this as a placation for the masses. The same masses who won't read > the info the FAA sends, and if they do, probably won't understand it. > > 5. And I do understand there are the brainless who will attempt to fly near > an airport. Can those ever be stopped? > > So...we know laws don't work unless there is enforcement. Who is going to > do this? The gun toting bunch like we have now? > > So if there is a problem, ban the things. But the cry goes "that's against > the Constitution." Was the ban against the manufacture, sale, and > importation of scanners that cover our 800 MHz cell phone band against the > Constitution? Apparently not. The FCC, in corporation with Newt, and > Congress, did it. What's the FAA? A bunch of whimps? > > > Jim, W1EQO > > PS Please don't reply to this. This site is, and should be about radio. The > only good use I see for a quadcopter is to make real antenna pattern > measurements. > > > > Original email: > ----------------- > From: Alan Dove alan.dove at gmail.com > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:52:13 -0500 > To: hcra at mailman.qth.net, w1eqo at shaysnet.com > Subject: Re: [HCRA] FAA Drone Registration > > > Hey, folks: > > I don?t want to turn this into a flamewar about federal regulation, but as > a pilot I want to point out that amateur-flown drones present a far greater > threat to real aircraft than many hobbyists realize. These things are > easily capable of taking out engines and windshields if struck at speed, > and the new control systems make it way too easy for folks to stray into > controlled airspace with them. The FAA had relied on a ?common sense? > approach to regulating model aircraft for decades, but a number of recent > close calls showed that sense is no longer common enough. As usual, a few > idiots made things worse for everyone else, so now all RC pilots need to > register. I?m not happy that this was necessary, but it was. > > Yes, birds also pose a serious threat to aircraft and always have. The > difference is that drones are operated by humans who should know better - > and who can and should be held liable for whatever damage they cause. > Registration is the mechanism for that. > > ?Alan (AB1XW) > > -- > Alan Dove, Ph.D. > Web: turbidplaque.com > Phone: 917.273.0544 > Skype: alandove > Twitter: @alandove > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com ? Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on > Microsoft? > Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail > > > ______________________________________________________________ > HCRA mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. From n1nte.rob at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 15:26:38 2015 From: n1nte.rob at gmail.com (Rob) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:26:38 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] HCRA Forum WAS: FAA Drone Registration Message-ID: I would be happy to help with the creation/management/moderation of such a forum if it came about. There are a number of free ones out there like Simple Machines that work well for these types of conversations. - Rob On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM, AB1WT Jeff wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > i know you said not to reply but i need to say this. i believe the hcra > website needs a bulletinboard/forum. there are many issues which the club > would like to discuss, like the drones but can't because it is not radio > related. if we add a bulletinboard/forum to the website, us club members > could have a place discuss issues like the drones and anything else. > bulletinboards/forums are very easy to add to websites and i belong to > quite a few of them. this is just a thought. > jeff > ab1wt > From jsternala at comcast.net Fri Dec 18 08:25:20 2015 From: jsternala at comcast.net (jsternala at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [HCRA] HCRA Forum WAS: FAA Drone Registration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <957171216.4905478.1450445120490.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Seconded Gentlemen, Best, Blessings, and 73, in this Holiday time. KB1YNU, js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" To: "HCRA Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:26:38 PM Subject: [HCRA] HCRA Forum WAS: FAA Drone Registration ______________________________________________ -------Hampden County Radio Association------- -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- ______________________________________________ I would be happy to help with the creation/management/moderation of such a forum if it came about. There are a number of free ones out there like Simple Machines that work well for these types of conversations. - Rob On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM, AB1WT Jeff wrote: > ______________________________________________ > -------Hampden County Radio Association------- > -----------e-mail list (reflector)------------- > ______________________________________________ > i know you said not to reply but i need to say this. i believe the hcra > website needs a bulletinboard/forum. there are many issues which the club > would like to discuss, like the drones but can't because it is not radio > related. if we add a bulletinboard/forum to the website, us club members > could have a place discuss issues like the drones and anything else. > bulletinboards/forums are very easy to add to websites and i belong to > quite a few of them. this is just a thought. > jeff > ab1wt > ______________________________________________________________ HCRA mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hcra Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:HCRA at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From nt1k at nt1k.com Tue Dec 29 09:23:55 2015 From: nt1k at nt1k.com (Jeffrey Bail - NT1K) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:23:55 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] Meeting is scheduled for next Friday (January 8th, 2016) Message-ID: Since the first Friday of the month lands on New Years Day, we've moved the meeting date to January 8th, 2016. There will be no meeting this Friday. Our guest speaker will be Jeff Jolie (NM1Y). He was part of the DXpedition team that went to Navassa Island and operated as K1N. Navassa was considered to be one of the most wanted DXCC entities due to it's remote location and restricted access to the island. Their DXpedition generated just over 140,000 contacts. Jeff will be giving a presentation about the DXpedition. HCRA has also invited the Yankee Clipper Contest Club (YCCC) to join in. They will be holding an area meeting where they will be accepting new members. We also invited area clubs and their members to join in. If you know of anyone who is interested (or not), bring them along. The more, the better. This is a meeting you shouldn't miss. Hope to see you there, Jeff (NT1K) From itsbail at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 09:22:58 2015 From: itsbail at gmail.com (Jeffrey Bail) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:22:58 -0500 Subject: [HCRA] Meeting is scheduled for next Friday (January 8th, 2016) Message-ID: Since the first Friday of the month lands on New Years Day, we've moved the meeting date to January 8th, 2016. There will be no meeting this Friday. Our guest speaker will be Jeff Jolie (NM1Y). He was part of the DXpedition team that went to Navassa Island and operated as K1N. Navassa was considered to be one of the most wanted DXCC entities due to it's remote location and restricted access to the island. Their DXpedition generated just over 140,000 contacts. Jeff will be giving a presentation about the DXpedition. HCRA has also invited the Yankee Clipper Contest Club (YCCC) to join in. They will be holding an area meeting where they will be accepting new members. We also invited area clubs and their members to join in. If you know of anyone who is interested (or not), bring them along. The more, the better. This is a meeting you shouldn't miss. Hope to see you there, Jeff (NT1K)