[HCRA] An interesting thread for you to browse
Daniel Sullivan
djs13 at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 9 19:01:34 EST 2006
----Original Message Follows----
From: "David Wiesen" <dlwiesen at comcast.net>
Reply-To: VWS at mail.viennawireless.org
To: <VWS at mail.viennawireless.org>
CC: "Sloan C. Wiesen" <sloanwiesen at aol.com>,"MaryAlice Smith"
<pielady1 at juno.com>,"Stephen W. Leibholz" <swl at techlabs.com>
Subject: Re:Aurora Uber Alles [VWS] Air Force Reconfigures Ionosphere
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 18:07:37 -0500
Wahoo!
Glad to hear that the SBIR program has the imagination to fund such stuff.
Steve, I'm not packing up the skyhook just yet.
73,
D
David L. Wiesen
1951 Sagewood Lane, Apt 124
Reston VA 20191
703-476-1716
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Leibholz" <swl at techlabs.com>
To: "David Wiesen" <dlwiesen at comcast.net>; <VWS at mail.viennawireless.org>
Cc: "Sloan C. Wiesen" <sloanwiesen at aol.com>; "MaryAlice Smith"
<pielady1 at juno.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:15 PM
Subject: RE: [VWS] Air Force Reconfigures Ionosphere
> Fascinating. Part of this is a funded SBIR Phase I by RESEARCH SUPPORT
> INSTRUMENTS, 20 New England Business Center, Andover, MA 01810 to create
an
> artificial ionosphere by shooting up chaff and tickling it with
microwaves.
> Frankly if you shoot enough chaff high enough you will create a scatterer
at
> altitude that can persist for a long time. Above about 30K feet the
> atmosphere is fairly stable although there are winds, and a large number
of
> small helium-filled balloons might do it. At 100 K Feet the radio horizon
is
> about 450 miles, giving a 900 mile range, but each of scatterers has to
be
> comparable to the beam diameter. Forget about HF since each piece of
chaff
> has to be around a half wavelength in diameter unless you ionize the
entire
> atmosphere surrounding the cloud, and substantially so. An example is
> aurora-bounce communications
>
> Plasma plumes in the belts have an equivalent refractive index greater
than
> 1 and therefore interfere with GPS signal timing, which in turn distorts
> position, about 1000 feet per microsecond.
>
> There have been many proposals to cancel out the Van Allen belts,
especially
> the inner one (mostly protons) since they present a danger to people and
> equipment. No-one knows what shielding the belts provide for high-energy
> particles hitting the Earth.
>
> The power required to do any of the above is awesome.
>
> Don't mothball that skyhook quite yet.
>
> SWL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Wiesen [mailto:dlwiesen at comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:24 AM
> To: VWS at mail.viennawireless.org
> Cc: Stephen W. Leibholz; Sloan C. Wiesen; MaryAlice Smith
> Subject: Re: [VWS] Air Force Reconfigures Ionosphere
>
> Wow, terrific, if they do it right 1.8 to 300 MHz can be made useful
> 24/7/365 for global skip with no dead zones. Working DX will be so easy
no
> one will want to bother with it. I know they have the opposite in mind,
but
> if you can do one you can do the other. We gotta get these bozos turned
> around. When you go to screw the other guy you hafta make sure you don't
> screw yourself in the process. If they succeed in their course of action
we
> will also be hurt.
>
> Shades of Dr. Strangelove. What are they smoking?
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, K2VX
>
> David L. Wiesen
> 1951 Sagewood Lane, Apt 124
> Reston VA 20191
> 703-476-1716
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Heagy" <jheagy at ida.org>
> To: "John Transue" <jtransue at cox.net>
> Cc: "Kent Carson" <kcarson at ida.org>; <VWS at mail.viennawireless.org>;
> <vws at viennawireless.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [VWS] Air Force Reconfigures Ionosphere
>
>
> > John:
> >
> > This sounds vaguely familiar. I'll ask my former AF weather friend
> > in Col Springs.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2006, at 10:57 AM, John Transue wrote:
> >
> > > It sounds to me as if they want to seed the Van Allen radiation
> > > belts. This
> > > is quite doable with a nuclear explosion, but I wouldn't expect "a
> > > small
> > > rocket" to be able to do much. Does any addressee understand the
> > > physics
> > > that could possibly make this feasible? And what does the ground
based
> > > microwave emitter do?
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: VWS-owner at mail.viennawireless.org
> > > [mailto:VWS-owner at mail.viennawireless.org] On Behalf Of Pete Norloff
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:26 AM
> > > To: vws at viennawireless.org
> > > Subject: [VWS] Air Force Reconfigures Ionosphere
> > >
> > > Here's a strange one:
> > >
> > > An engineer at Research Support Instruments is working with the
> > > U.S. Air
> > > Force to develop a project called the Microwave Ionosphere
> > > Reconfiguration
> > > Ground based Emitter, codenamed Mirage. Now this isn't creating
> > > tornadoes or
> > > wind storms to wreak havoc, it is modifying the ionosphere to
> > > disrupt enemy
> > > communications and to help ours.
> > >
> > > The ionosphere is an electric band in the upper atmosphere. The
Mirage
> > > project would station a microwave transmitter on the ground then
> > > launch a
> > > small rocket into the atmosphere that would release plasma
> > > throughout the
> > > ionosphere. The plasma would modify the number of electrons within a
> > > selected area of the ionosphere, thereby creating a virtual
> > > communications
> > > barrier. This would benefit the military in two ways: the enemy's
> > > communication with satellites would be hindered, and the highly
> > > charged
> > > ionosphere would allow for better radar relays on our side. The
> > > initial
> > > phase of the project is complete.
> > >
> > > Air Force Aims For Weather Control
> > > http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002163.html
> > >
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