[HCRA] ISS is a satellite isn't it?

[Eric Richardson]

I think we were just being a little bit difficult Rick. :-P


> [Original Message]
> From: Rick Lindquist, N1RL <n1rl at earthlink.net>
> To: <sandmanofcs at earthlink.net>; Jim Harrington <jldhjr at verizon.net>;
HCRA <HCRA at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: 6/16/2005 10:15:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [HCRA] ISS is a satellite isn't it?
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> <sigh> You guys just don't seem to get this, do you? Either that or
> you're just trying to be difficult.
>
> Yes, it's a satellite, but no, it's not a satellite for the purposes of
> Field Day, with the SOLE exception that you may get satellite contact
> credits for packets digipeated from one station to another and back VIA
> the ISS, as I explained earlier and about which I quoted Dan Henderson
> in the W1AW bulletin. 
>
> It's not a matter of being "right" here in a pedantic sense. The issue
> is what the rules permit and do not permit. 
>
> If you work a contact through AO-51 (ie, one Earth station to another
> Earth station via the satellite), for example, it counts for FD credit.
> If you exchange packets via the ISS, same deal. 
>
> Contacting the ISS crew is just another contact, however, and you'll
> just have to deal with that, no matter what it says in some dictionary
> (which does not dictate rules for ARRL operating events).
>
> I'm not sure why we end up having to explain this over and over again
> every year. Seems pretty clear to me. In any event, yes, you'll need
> your 2 meter station to "get it done."
>
> 73, Rick, N1RL 
>
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> On Behalf Of Eric Richardson
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:00 PM
> To: Jim Harrington; HCRA
> Subject: RE: [HCRA] ISS is a satellite isn't it?
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> If you want to be technicial....
>
> from m-w.com
>
> Main Entry: sat.el.lite
> Pronunciation: 'sa-t&l-"It
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle French, from Latin satellit-, satelles attendant
> 1 : a hired agent or obsequious follower : MINION, SYCOPHANT
> 2 a : a celestial body orbiting another of larger size b : a
> manufactured object or vehicle intended to orbit the earth, the moon, or
> another celestial body
> 3 : someone or something attendant, subordinate, or dependent;
> especially : a country politically and economically dominated or
> controlled by another more powerful country
> 4 : a usually independent urban community situated near but not
> immediately adjacent to a large city
> - satellite adjective
>
>
> >From m-w it states that it is one, since it's orbiting the earth, and I
> really don't think that the ISS is bigger than earth. Although the ARRL
> states that it doesn't count.
>
> > ARRL Contest Branch Manager Dan Henderson, N1ND, notes that ISS
> > voice or direct packet contacts with the ISS do not count for bonus
> > satellite contact points because the ISS is not an ''Amateur Radio
> > satellite'' as event rules specify. Packet contacts relayed via the
> > ISS are valid.
> >
> > ''The ISS contacts do not count for satellite credit, since they are
> > point-to-point, whereas the traditional satellite QSO is a relayed
> > Earth-satellite-Earth two-way contact,'' he explained. Field Day has
> > no specific rules relating to ARISS operation because there's no
> > guarantee that the crew will be able to get on the air for the
> > annual exercise.
>
> Looks like we will need our 2M station to get it done.
>
> KB1JVI
>
> Eric
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