[HCARC] FW: HCARC Meeting Change

Thu Mar 12 12:27:25 EDT 2015

If the clubs met on different evenings, my bet is that the people would tend 
to attend whichever club (or hopefully both) that was offering the best, 
most interesting speaker.  My bet with  John Weisinger talking about a 
relatively popular topic next month - HEXBEAM ANTENNAS - that we would 
probably draw a fair number of members/visitors from the Boerne Club. 
Taking members away from their own home club isn't the intent of changing 
nights though.  The intent, at least from my perspective is to allow members 
to attend both club's meetings if they desire.  From my personal standpoint, 
as a Club Officer I CAN'T JUST DECIDE TO ATTEND THEIR MEETING (on the same 
night as ours) AS I NEED TO BE AT OUR MEETING TO TAKE NOTES AS THE 
SECRETARY.  If I were just a plain member then my presence would not be 
missed.  That however is not the intended point - the intended point is to 
allow all members the freedom to partake of as many sources of info as they 
desire.  An unintended consequence of changing the time of our meeting might 
be that both clubs experience an increase in attendance and membership.  I 
fail to see how changing the date of our meeting could lead to anything 
other than a positive outcome, unless there are significant numbers of 
people who can't/won't attend on the 2nd Thursday each month.   However if 
they step up and vote no then they would in all likelihood defeat the motion 
in the first place, thus preserving the status quo.

Gary J
N5BAA

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bill Tynan
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:54 AM
To: 'Gary J - N5BAA' ; 'Harvey N. Vordenbaum' ; 'Terry Hipskind' ; 'Hcarc'
Subject: RE: [HCARC] FW: HCARC Meeting Change

Over the years, I have talked to folks on the air in the Comfort area,
pitching our club. The response that I received was, "I go to the Boerne
Club.

73,

Bill, W3XO/5

-----Original Message-----
From: HCARC [mailto:hcarc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary J -
N5BAA
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:34 PM
To: Harvey N. Vordenbaum; 'Terry Hipskind'; 'Hcarc'
Subject: Re: [HCARC] FW: HCARC Meeting Change

As is so often the case in HCARC the negative sides of the discussion are
usually presented.  How many members would like to attend two meetings a
month??  I know of about 5-6 without even polling the group.  The better
question might be "HOW DO WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR MEMBERS TO HAVE AVAILABLE TO

THEM THE LARGEST BODY OF KNOWLEDGE AND THE WIDEST ABILITY TO LEARN
POSSIBLE??  Yes we have very talented, intelligent, helpful members in
HCARC, but I am sure there is something we can learn from the members of the

Kendall County Club (KARS) too.  It costs us nothing, other than getting
another group to end their meetings on time to move the meeting to the 2nd
Thursday of each month.  Then ALL the members that desire, can at their
discretion attend, one club, both clubs, or as it happens each month when
approx 70% of our membership don't attend at all.  YUP, the facts are in, we

average about 32 attendees out of 108 club members each meeting - hardly
stellar attendance figures.  Are we afraid of losing members to KARS, or are

we afraid that some of their members might attend and join our club too,
bringing new or different ideas??  Are we afraid of these new ideas, or
might our dual club attending members find new things to share with HCARC??
Maybe we could foster inter-club competition on things like Field Day -
HORRORS that that should happen!!!!  Rather than seeing it as an EITHER/OR,
I see it as an AND.   It was stated that KARS is a smaller club than ours,
BUT IS IT LESS ACTIVE??  Last I noticed, we are not being swamped by people
demanding to be allowed to participate in things like club officer, Field
Day, ARES, etc.

There are a small, but significant number of members of HCARC that miss our
meetings because of conflicts such as the local Symphony.  This helps them
also.  There are also probably other members who have a conflict and don't
attend on the 1st Thursday because of it.  Likewise, there might be some
members of the club who will have conflicts on the second Thursday also.

Maybe what we should be discussing is why we get such poor attendance at our

meetings in the first place.  Why will no one step up to serve as club
leaders.

Let the club decide - the motion has already been made and seconded.

Gary J
N5BAA

-----Original Message-----
From: HCARC [mailto:hcarc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Terry
Hipskind
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:54 PM
To: Hcarc
Subject: [HCARC] HCARC Meeting Change

During last Thursday's club meeting there was a motion to change the monthly
club meeting from the first Thursday of the month to the second Thursday of
the month.  This motion was then tabled until next month's meeting.
QUESTION: HOW MANY MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO GO TO TWO MEETINGS A MONTH, AND ONE
OF THEM A 60 MILE ROUND TRIP?
ODD THAT KARS IS SMALLER THAN WE ARE.  MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE OF THEIR PROXIMITY
TO S.A. WHICH NO DOUBT HAS QUITE A NUMBER OF CLUBS.
HV

History:  On the day of our meeting, I normally arrive at 05:30 pm to
arrange the room if needed.  At 06:00 pm the first wave of members begin
showing up, both to socialize and to setup the refreshment table.  Although
we have not had a Tech Corner in some time we are trying to resurrect the
Tech Corner for the new Hams - this starts at 06:30 pm and the club meeting
stats at 07:00 pm.

I checked the Red Cross calendar for the rest of the year to see if there
would be any conflicts.  No - But.  There is a Families and Literacy Meeting
scheduled from 03:00 to 06:00 pm every second Thursday of the month.  The
potential problem as I see it would be the 06:00 to 06:30 pm time period
when we are trying to get setup and they are still trying to socialize as we
do following our meeting.
WE'VE HAD  TROUBLE WITH THEM OR SOME GROUP LIKE THEM BEFORE.
NOT THAT MANY IN THE GROUP.  THEY COULD HAVE MET IN ROOM A.  THEY WERE GOING
ON LIKE THERE WAS NO TOMORROW IN THE BIG ROOM UNTIL WELL PAST 6:30.  ONE
TIME WE JUST BARGED IN ON THEM TO MAKE THEM GO AWAY.
HV

Something to think about

73

Terry Hipskind, W0HIP

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