[HCARC] Successful Antenna Raising And Special Thanks To Club Member

[Gary J - N5BAA]

No John - 5BTV is not more cantankerous - it's a 4BTV with an added 80 meter 
resonator at the top.  What is more "cantankerous" is when New-Tronics used 
to sell the antennas direct they pre-tuned the antenna pretty well before 
they shipped it to you.  Now that they sell via DX Engineering, they have 
skipped the tuning at the factory (cost of labor) and they just put it 
together and send it to DX Engineering.  Added to the problem is two 
conflicting manuals included with the antenna - one from the manufacturer 
saying "Don't move the traps under penalty of voiding your warranty".  You 
might guess whose instructions we originally followed and it wasn't DX 
Engineerings!!!  Voiding warranty's certainly gets my attention.  I did ask 
DX Engineering why they didn't get with New-Tronics and come up with 
agreeing manuals and they started giving me the Lawyer excuse.  Go Figure in 
todays world.

Gary J
N5BAA

-----Original Message----- 
From: John Canfield
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:59 PM
To: hcarc at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [HCARC] Successful Antenna Raising And Special Thanks To Club 
Member

Maybe the 5BTV is more particular and cantankerous than the 4BTV.  Years
ago I had a roof-mounted 4BTV with radials and I certainly don't
remember any tuning issues with it.  Glad you got it going!

John
WB5THT

On 9/22/2014 3:46 PM, Gary J - N5BAA wrote:
> Well with a certain amount of angst and frustration over conflicting 
> manuals from DX Engineering and the manufacturer of Hustler 5BTV antennas 
> (New-Tronics) we (Tony Moore, Gordon Green, and myself) were with a couple 
> of hours of intensive antenna radial theory and practical instruction by 
> Dale Gaudier, able to get Gordon Greens Hustler 5BTV vertical up and with 
> SWR’s of between 1:1 and about 2.1:1 across the complete bands of 
> 10,12,15,17,20, and 40 meters and tunable SWR’s across much of the voice 
> section of 80 meters.  Our first attempts at elevating the antenna (per 
> the manual – they recommend roof top mounting (fogetabout it)) with tuned 
> elevated radials met with disaster – SWR’s 8-10:1 across most all bands. 
> Seems that both manuals conflict about tuning the traps on 10/15/20 with 
> DX Engineering saying Yes you have to and New-tronics manual saying “Don’t 
> touch the traps or you void the warranty”.  BTW, we ended up ground 
> mounting the antenna with tuned radials – four per band, except for 12 and 
> 17 which didn’t need any at all – I guess they were happy with all the 
> other ones that were close to their length (10/15/20).  12 and 17 meters 
> are added to the antenna by attaching two 1/4 wave wires on standoffs 
> parallel to the antenna.


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