[HCARC] Abandoning 10 meter rag chew?

Bill Tynan billandmattie at windstream.net
Sun Sep 2 16:15:54 EDT 2012


Yes and if you use LEGAL power, you will be limited to 5 Watts. I'm sure 
most of those on the 10 meter get-togehter were runnimg at least 100 Watts. 
So, the coverage on 26.965 - 27.405 MHz will be substantially poorer than on 
28.whatever.

73,

Bill, W3XO/5

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Richie" <bob.k5yb at yahoo.com>
To: "Gary and Arlene Johnson" <qltfnish at omniglobal.net>
Cc: "HCARC Reflector" <HCARC at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [HCARC] Abandoning 10 meter rag chew?


Gary, there is a group of legal frequencies between 26.965 and 27.405 
wherein hams are permitted to talk to other hams or even non hams.. These 
are discussed in CFR 47 Part 95. Ham radio is covered in CFR 47 Part 97. One 
frequency , 27.065, is reserved for emergency communications or traveler 
assistance. Some hams use these frequencies while traveling because of the 
great silence on 146.52. I have only heard a part of a QSO on 146.52 so I no 
longer even bother with it. There are specific rules covering the use of the 
frequencies from 26.965 to 27.405 such as power, antenna height, length of 
QSO, etc. hi

Bob
K5YB
Kerrville, TX 78028


________________________________
 From: Gary and Arlene Johnson <qltfnish at omniglobal.net>
To: Bob Richie <bob.k5yb at yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [HCARC] Abandoning 10 meter rag chew?



Whose frequency is 27.185 for??? 28-29.7
is 10 meters, and 24.89-24.99 is 12 meters. What approved Band is 27.185
mhz??? Or is it a typo??

Gary J
N5"BAA"
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Bob Richie
>To: Gary and Arlene Johnson ; ccrobins at ktc.com
>Cc: hcarc at mailman.qth.net
>Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 10:11  PM
>Subject: Re: [HCARC] Abandoning 10 meter  rag chew?
>
>
>27.185 MHz is pretty good for local communications.
>
>Bob
>K5YB
>Kerrville, TX 78028
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Gary and Arlene Johnson  <qltfnish at omniglobal.net>
>To: ccrobins at ktc.com
>Cc: hcarc at mailman.qth.net
>Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 9:10  PM
>Subject: Re: [HCARC]  Abandoning 10 meter rag chew?
>
>I hate to rain on this
  parade, but has anyone done a study/poll of the techs
>in the club that
  don't have access to a spouse who is a General or above and
>has access to
  the HF bands above 10 meters that way, or if no spouse, has
>access to a
  radio that will transmit on 10 meters SSB?? I suspect this
>number is
  very small. IF a Tech were going to go out and procure a radio
>that
  could transmit on HF SSB, and erect an antenna to do likewise, isn't it
>reasonable to also think that the same Tech would be in the process of
>upgrading to General so that he/she had full use of all the bands in HF to
>utilize this "new" radio on?? I realize that there are some Techs
  who have
>been coming down to the Club Station and getting on the air with
  Gale.
>However, those Techs are not restricted to 10 meters if Gale is
  present as
>they can use him as the Control Operator and can go anywhere on
  HF. I know
>what a great service Gale provides, I have taken
  advantage of this service
>myself.\
>
>If I were a Tech looking at this
  whole exercise from a "Should I bother to
>upgrade point of view", I could
  logically conclude it's not worth my time
>and effort, since the HF band
  test results to date won't even let me talk to
>my friends
  locally.
>
>What we should be concentrating on, in my never quite humble
  enough opinion
>is finding out which Frequencies we can reliably
  communicate locally using
>HF and getting good at doing that vs trying to
  restrict ourselves to any one
>set of Frequencies. Who knows, there
  might be a day when we need to use HF
>to communicate locally.
>
>If I
  have stepped on any toes, I apologise in advance.
>
>Gary
  J
>N5"BAA"
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Charley
  & Peggy Robinson" <ccrobins at ktc.com>
>To: <hcarc at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent:
  Saturday, September 01, 2012 3:03 PM
>Subject: [HCARC] Abandoning 10 meter
  rag chew?
>
>
>> All,
>>
>> I've been enthusiastic about
  the 10 meter rag chew idea because I liked
>> Gale's idea of
  getting the tech class operators involved in working on
>>
  HF. I was enthusiastic enough to erect a 10 meter dipole in
  several
>> configurations and I'm still moving it around in an effort to
  get out
>> better to the the Harper & F'burg area. I missed out
  last Wednesday
>> evening (my bad) after the last redeployment.
  Thinking about putting it
>> on the roof temporarily
  next.
>>
>> Now, once again, there's a movement to abandon the 10
  meter band because
>> of "propagation difficulties." I submit that
  the "difficulties" could
>> very well be because of inadequate antennae -
  mine included. I plan to
>> work on better antenna deployment
  instead of abandoning the original
>> idea of trying to motivate the
  techs to get on HF.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Charley
>>
  af5ao
>>
>>
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