[HCARC] Vertical Antenna Guy Lines
John K5XA
k5xa at godfather-ridge.com
Sat Nov 24 20:58:18 EST 2012
W2IK-
Get off of this stuff that I censored any reflector post of yours. I am
again including the events that resulted in the rejection of your post at
the end of this email.
Plain and simple, your post violated the conventions of the reflector, but
you decided to take a holier than thou attitude and accused me of censoring
your post.
I personally hope you stay "resigned" from the club, as you don't measure up
to the ethics and fellowship attitudes of the other HCARC members.
K5XA John Guida
-----Original Message-----
From: hcarc-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:hcarc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of ALoneStarYank at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 3:05 PM
To: lee at besing.com; HCarc at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [HCARC] Vertical Antenna Guy Lines
Lee,
I just got your email...... even though I have their email blocked,
sometimes it gets through.
I am no longer a member of the club because they were censoring my posts
even though none were inflammatory or negative. As an FYI, I have done
installs on probably 100 antennas of all different types. If I had to buy
an
antenna, any GAP product would be my very last choice of antennas. They
don't
last long in areas of high winds, ice storms or freezing weather. They are
very flimsy. They also require many more ground radials than suggested for
decent operation, especially when your wavelength gets longer such as in 80
and 160 meter operation. On 160 meters, it is a piece of junk. I have seen
them twist like pretzels. If anyone wants to work 160 down here, they need
a large (over 370 ft) loop, a beverage receiving antenna or other type of
160 meter antenna and not a multi bander. The ground conductivity is
crappy, no matter what stats you show me. Theory and real-life are two
different
animals.
All of my "Jump Team Boot Camp" supplies, antennas, extra rigs, etc. were
shipped to the New York area a while ago to help with the hurricane Sandy
emergency communications so the course I promised I'd give to the Tennessee
group will have to wait a while.
73
See ya at the NWS for Skywarn Weekend,
Bob W2IK
In a message dated 11/24/2012 2:45:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,
lee at besing.com writes:
Recommend considering some pre-event preparation, if the soil is hard
where you want the anchors. I.e. trickle water the areas to soften the top
portion of the soil for a few days prior to drilling.
Of course, I presume that the location of any potential underground
utilities is known to the owner as well. I had local utility company come
out
and mark my backyard, and that's what told me I didn't have room for my GAP
Titan antenna.
I know some hams that use the technique with a water hose into the hole,
while using a Hammer Jack impact drill on a grounding rod to force it in.
The combination of the water & the pounding / twisting action eventually
got
it all way down into the ground.
Lee Besing, N5NTG
210-771-7075 ( voice/text)
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary and Arlene Johnson <qltfnish at omniglobal.net>
To: HCarc at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 11:07 AM
Subject: [HCARC] Vertical Antenna Guy Lines
Gale Heise showed me some really neat Kevlar guy lines he uses on his
antennas. Seems like a great idea - no rust, sun proof. I didn't ask him
what he uses for the anchor/stake on the earth side of the guy line. Is
there
a particular type of stake, concrete block buried, screw stake like for
tying up dogs, or what???
With my BIG DRILL that is 24 inches long and drills holes 1 5/8" in
diameter, putting in sections of T-posts at the proper angle with minimal
effort
might be the best idea. In fact, next week when the installation of the
Gap Voyager antenna happens, I can bring both my drill with the big bit and
with the 36 inch 3/4" bit to the party. I can also bring my metal but off
circular saw to cut metal posts/tubing as desired.
Gary J
N5BAA
HCARC Secretary (2013)
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-----Original Message-----
From: hcarc-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:hcarc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of John K5XA
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:18 AM
To: ALoneStarYank at aol.com; hcarc at mailman.qth.net
Cc: W4wj at aol.com
Subject: Re: [HCARC] Fwd: Request to mailing list HCARC rejected
AloneStarYank at aol.com:
I, the moderator did not censor the opinions and ideas of the member (you).
Rather, the moderator adhered to the rules and conditions of the reflector,
and provided explanations to the member, and did so off of the reflector so
as not to cast any criticism toward the member.
Here are the events:
In response to a reflector administration request, a message posted from the
member was directed to the moderator for attention. The message is provided
below as Message #1.
The key action specified in the administration request Message #1 is: " Too
many recipients to the message."
I forwarded this message to the member so he could see the reason the
message did not pass reflector protocol.
I then completed the administrative request and rejected the message through
the reflector administrative process. The email that was received by the
member which can also be found below is a result of the reflector software
completing my action. The key phrase in this automated message is "No
reason given".
Again, both of these actions were taken OFF of the reflector.
I have no vested interest in censoring opinions or ideas of member postings,
and if I did, I would post them on the reflector for all to see, or address
them directly to the member I was censoring.
I administer the reflector in the best interests of the HCARC membership,
and do so on my time. In doing so. I must also adhere to the rules and
conditions of the reflector software, which monitors for attachments, size,
number of recipients, etc.
Sir, your accusations are way off base. And I object to having to answer
your accusation, and having to do so in the open which is the way you have
decided to take on this matter.
Perhaps you should consider reinstating your HCARC membership, and then
assuming the duties of Reflector moderator, which you appear to believe you
can perform better than is being done now.
K5XA John Guida
Message #1
-----Original Message-----
From: mailman-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:mailman-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
hcarc-owner at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:58 AM
To: hcarc-owner at mailman.qth.net
Subject: HCARC post from alonestaryank at aol.com requires approval
As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following
mailing list posting:
List: HCARC at mailman.qth.net
From: alonestaryank at aol.com
Subject: Emergency Communications During Sandy
Reason: Too many recipients to the message
At your convenience, visit:
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/admindb/hcarc
to approve or deny the request.
-----Original Message-----
From: hcarc-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:hcarc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of ALoneStarYank at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:42 PM
To: hcarc at mailman.qth.net
Cc: W4wj at aol.com
Subject: [HCARC] Fwd: Request to mailing list HCARC rejected
Since my opinions and ideas have been censored by the moderator, I hereby
resign my membership from HCARC.
Bob Hejl W2IK
____________________________________
From: hcarc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
To: alonestaryank at aol.com
Sent: 10/30/2012 6:20:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: Request to mailing list HCARC rejected
Your request to the HCARC mailing list
Posting of your message titled "Emergency Communications During
Sandy"
has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the
following reason for rejecting your request:
"No reason given"
Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator
at:
hcarc-owner at mailman.qth.net
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