From windy10605 at juno.com  Tue Nov  1 18:30:54 2016
From: windy10605 at juno.com (Kees & Sandy)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 22:30:54 GMT
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16
Message-ID: <20161101.173054.17307.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Clint, Wonderful construction .....really looks nice. I have added it to the HBR pictures. Looks much better than the pill bottles and great that you got some nice forms. Pretty good work for a 93 year old builder. Congratulations !!  With this email, I pass on your note of thanks to the guys who supplied the Amphenol forms. Great group and HBRs are STILL out there and going strong. I need to take some pictures of and describe a "new" HBR-13C I acquired recently.....built into a slightly larger (wider) cabinet (which I may still reduce in width if I can figure out how to do it), but it's got "The Eddystone 898 Dial" .  73 Kees K5BCQ

---------- Original Message ----------
From: clint gorman <clintgee1115 at gmail.com>
To: k5bcq at arrl.net
Subject: HBR-16
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 21:43:44 -0400

Hi Robert. a while back, while constructing my HBR 16, you printed a picture of my receiver using pill bottles for coils. A lot of hams evidently saw this picture and came to my rescue. They sent me, free of charge enough clear plastic forms to finish the job. If any of those us guys read this, I want to thank them for their generous gifts.Thanks to you, Robert for printing that picture ( it is number 231 on your list of builder notes). I am attaching a picture showing the factory coil forms being used.\\\\\\\\Clint, k4krb

From prh at aol.com  Tue Nov  1 20:52:45 2016
From: prh at aol.com (Paul Horenstein K2PH)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:52:45 -0400
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
Message-ID: <1582286209b-5541-c2d8@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com>

Thanks to all who assisted me with identifying my new find. As far as I can tell, I am now the proud owner of and HBR-13C with Eddystone Dial, built on a 19 inch rack mount chassis and panel. Only came with one set of coils. Any resources out there for coil forms, either nos or new manufacture ? 
Have not even attempted to light it up yet, but the underside looks clean and no evidence of any magic smoke. Any way to share photos of the radio with the group ?


73
Paul K2PH

From windy10605 at juno.com  Tue Nov  1 21:03:10 2016
From: windy10605 at juno.com (Kees & Sandy)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 01:03:10 GMT
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
Message-ID: <20161101.200310.19808.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

Paul, If you send me .jpg files directly, I can upload them to the website and everyone can see the pictures. Please try to keep the file size to ~150KB or so otherwise I use up too much of their space. I can do this for anyone who has HBR pictures they want to share. 73 Kees K5BCQHBR Receiver Website owner 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Paul Horenstein K2PH via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
To: HBR at mailman.qth.net
Cc: Paul Horenstein K2PH <prh at aol.com>
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:52:45 -0400

Thanks to all who assisted me with identifying my new find. As far as I can tell, I am now the proud owner of and HBR-13C with Eddystone Dial, built on a 19 inch rack mount chassis and panel. Only came with one set of coils. Any resources out there for coil forms, either nos or new manufacture ? 
Have not even attempted to light it up yet, but the underside looks clean and no evidence of any magic smoke. Any way to share photos of the radio with the group ?


73
Paul K2PH
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From smithab11 at comcast.net  Tue Nov  1 21:15:41 2016
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 21:15:41 -0400
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
In-Reply-To: <1582286209b-5541-c2d8@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com>
References: <1582286209b-5541-c2d8@webstg-m10.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <419bf35e-bc09-01c8-dbd7-9c2b12238925@comcast.net>

    When I constructed my HBR-14 I quickly gave up on trying to find the 
"original" coils forms and adopted standard forms that are readily 
available as well as using PVC for the coils.
73
breck k4che

http://k4che.com/HBR/RF%20Mixer%20Osc%20Band%20Coils%20Page%201.htm

http://k4che.com/HBR/HBR%20page%201.htm

On 11/1/2016 8:52 PM, Paul Horenstein K2PH via HBR wrote:
> Thanks to all who assisted me with identifying my new find. As far as I can tell, I am now the proud owner of and HBR-13C with Eddystone Dial, built on a 19 inch rack mount chassis and panel. Only came with one set of coils. Any resources out there for coil forms, either nos or new manufacture ?
> Have not even attempted to light it up yet, but the underside looks clean and no evidence of any magic smoke. Any way to share photos of the radio with the group ?
>
>
> 73
> Paul K2PH
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From windy10605 at juno.com  Tue Nov  1 21:14:41 2016
From: windy10605 at juno.com (Kees & Sandy)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 01:14:41 GMT
Subject: [HBR] HBR-17
Message-ID: <20161101.201441.19808.2@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

I did download some HBR-17 pictures Scott, WA9WFA posted a while back. I'll upload those. 73 Kees K5BCQ

From prh at aol.com  Tue Nov  1 21:39:08 2016
From: prh at aol.com (Paul Horenstein K2PH)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 21:39:08 -0400
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
In-Reply-To: <20161101.200310.19808.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
References: <20161101.200310.19808.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <15822b09917-52ea-e43@webstg-a05.mail.aol.com>

Thanks. just sent 3 pics to you. If they're too big, feel free to shrink them some more......


Gonna be an interesting winter project....


Paul K2PH



-----Original Message-----
From: Kees & Sandy <windy10605 at juno.com>
To: hbr <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, Nov 1, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: [HBR] My New HBR13C

Paul, If you send me .jpg files directly, I can upload them to the website and everyone can see the pictures. Please try to keep the file size to ~150KB or so otherwise I use up too much of their space. I can do this for anyone who has HBR pictures they want to share. 73 Kees K5BCQHBR Receiver Website owner 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Paul Horenstein K2PH via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
To: HBR at mailman.qth.net
Cc: Paul Horenstein K2PH <prh at aol.com>
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:52:45 -0400

Thanks to all who assisted me with identifying my new find. As far as I can tell, I am now the proud owner of and HBR-13C with Eddystone Dial, built on a 19 inch rack mount chassis and panel. Only came with one set of coils. Any resources out there for coil forms, either nos or new manufacture ? 
Have not even attempted to light it up yet, but the underside looks clean and no evidence of any magic smoke. Any way to share photos of the radio with the group ?


73
Paul K2PH
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From windy10605 at juno.com  Tue Nov  1 22:51:03 2016
From: windy10605 at juno.com (Kees & Sandy)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 02:51:03 GMT
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
Message-ID: <20161101.215103.19787.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

Paul, Received all three pictures and will get them uploaded in the next day or so. Got any of the underside ? 73 Kees K5BCQ

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Paul Horenstein K2PH via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
Cc: Paul Horenstein K2PH <prh at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [HBR] My New HBR13C
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 21:39:08 -0400

Thanks. just sent 3 pics to you. If they're too big, feel free to shrink them some more......


Gonna be an interesting winter project....


Paul K2PH



-----Original Message-----
From: Kees & Sandy <windy10605 at juno.com>
To: hbr <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, Nov 1, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: [HBR] My New HBR13C

Paul, If you send me .jpg files directly, I can upload them to the website and everyone can see the pictures. Please try to keep the file size to ~150KB or so otherwise I use up too much of their space. I can do this for anyone who has HBR pictures they want to share. 73 Kees K5BCQHBR Receiver Website owner 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Paul Horenstein K2PH via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
To: HBR at mailman.qth.net
Cc: Paul Horenstein K2PH <prh at aol.com>
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:52:45 -0400

Thanks to all who assisted me with identifying my new find. As far as I can tell, I am now the proud owner of and HBR-13C with Eddystone Dial, built on a 19 inch rack mount chassis and panel. Only came with one set of coils. Any resources out there for coil forms, either nos or new manufacture ? 
Have not even attempted to light it up yet, but the underside looks clean and no evidence of any magic smoke. Any way to share photos of the radio with the group ?


73
Paul K2PH
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From prh at aol.com  Wed Nov  2 10:42:58 2016
From: prh at aol.com (Paul Horenstein K2PH)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 10:42:58 -0400
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
In-Reply-To: <20161101.215103.19787.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
References: <20161101.215103.19787.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <158257e357f-5791-1d7b@webstg-a05.mail.aol.com>

Thanks. When I get a chance. 
Paul K2PH 



-----Original Message-----
From: Kees & Sandy <windy10605 at juno.com>
To: hbr <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, Nov 1, 2016 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: [HBR] My New HBR13C

Paul, Received all three pictures and will get them uploaded in the next day or so. Got any of the underside ? 73 Kees K5BCQ

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Paul Horenstein K2PH via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
Cc: Paul Horenstein K2PH <prh at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [HBR] My New HBR13C
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 21:39:08 -0400

Thanks. just sent 3 pics to you. If they're too big, feel free to shrink them some more......


Gonna be an interesting winter project....


Paul K2PH



-----Original Message-----
From: Kees & Sandy <windy10605 at juno.com>
To: hbr <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, Nov 1, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: [HBR] My New HBR13C

Paul, If you send me .jpg files directly, I can upload them to the website and everyone can see the pictures. Please try to keep the file size to ~150KB or so otherwise I use up too much of their space. I can do this for anyone who has HBR pictures they want to share. 73 Kees K5BCQHBR Receiver Website owner 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Paul Horenstein K2PH via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
To: HBR at mailman.qth.net
Cc: Paul Horenstein K2PH <prh at aol.com>
Subject: [HBR] My New HBR13C
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:52:45 -0400

Thanks to all who assisted me with identifying my new find. As far as I can tell, I am now the proud owner of and HBR-13C with Eddystone Dial, built on a 19 inch rack mount chassis and panel. Only came with one set of coils. Any resources out there for coil forms, either nos or new manufacture ? 
Have not even attempted to light it up yet, but the underside looks clean and no evidence of any magic smoke. Any way to share photos of the radio with the group ?


73
Paul K2PH
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From pdulaff at embarqmail.com  Thu Nov  3 11:32:06 2016
From: pdulaff at embarqmail.com (Paul Dulaff)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 11:32:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
Message-ID: <376263702.107462946.1478187126451.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>

All

Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the HBR coil form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded clear styrene with 5 pins, tin plated.

Looking at tooling cost and cost for pins, the piece price hits $10.00 each to recoup the setup and tooling costs for volumes in the hundreds of parts.

I look for input on such things as making the coil form taller for 160 meter coils, price sensitivity etc.

Also would folks possibly by a set of coils, i.e. 15 coil forms for $100.00 ?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Best 73's

Paul - WB2NMI

From smithab11 at comcast.net  Thu Nov  3 12:13:19 2016
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 12:13:19 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
In-Reply-To: <376263702.107462946.1478187126451.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>
References: <376263702.107462946.1478187126451.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <f4dd3e46-63b9-4270-0a5c-8335ce325f0d@comcast.net>

     Definitely make tall forms for the 160 meter coils.
breck k4che

On 11/3/2016 11:32 AM, Paul Dulaff wrote:
> All
>
> Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the HBR coil form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded clear styrene with 5 pins, tin plated.
>
> Looking at tooling cost and cost for pins, the piece price hits $10.00 each to recoup the setup and tooling costs for volumes in the hundreds of parts.
>
> I look for input on such things as making the coil form taller for 160 meter coils, price sensitivity etc.
>
> Also would folks possibly by a set of coils, i.e. 15 coil forms for $100.00 ?
>
> Thanks in advance for your input.
>
> Best 73's
>
> Paul - WB2NMI
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From cemilton at aol.com  Thu Nov  3 12:52:17 2016
From: cemilton at aol.com (Charles Milton)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 12:52:17 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
In-Reply-To: <f4dd3e46-63b9-4270-0a5c-8335ce325f0d@comcast.net>
References: <376263702.107462946.1478187126451.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>
	<f4dd3e46-63b9-4270-0a5c-8335ce325f0d@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A51F2D32-8D95-4A8F-962F-5F095D84C39D@aol.com>

Definitely support the 15 forms for $100.  Or even $125.

73 de W4MIL
Chuck

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 3, 2016, at 12:13 PM, B. Smith <smithab11 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>    Definitely make tall forms for the 160 meter coils.
> breck k4che
> 
>> On 11/3/2016 11:32 AM, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>> All
>> 
>> Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the HBR coil form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded clear styrene with 5 pins, tin plated.
>> 
>> Looking at tooling cost and cost for pins, the piece price hits $10.00 each to recoup the setup and tooling costs for volumes in the hundreds of parts.
>> 
>> I look for input on such things as making the coil form taller for 160 meter coils, price sensitivity etc.
>> 
>> Also would folks possibly by a set of coils, i.e. 15 coil forms for $100.00 ?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your input.
>> 
>> Best 73's
>> 
>> Paul - WB2NMI
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From jh7092 at dishup.us  Thu Nov  3 13:13:10 2016
From: jh7092 at dishup.us (Jim Hooser)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 12:13:10 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
References: <376263702.107462946.1478187126451.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>
	<f4dd3e46-63b9-4270-0a5c-8335ce325f0d@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3204723046E448C48D173ABE67AAD8B9@dc7100>

    I would take a set.Yes make the 160 meter ones also
Jim KC9MNX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. Smith" <smithab11 at comcast.net>
To: "HBR Receiver List" <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms


>     Definitely make tall forms for the 160 meter coils.
> breck k4che
>
> On 11/3/2016 11:32 AM, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>> All
>>
>> Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the HBR coil 
>> form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded clear styrene with 5 
>> pins, tin plated.
>>
>> Looking at tooling cost and cost for pins, the piece price hits $10.00 
>> each to recoup the setup and tooling costs for volumes in the hundreds of 
>> parts.
>>
>> I look for input on such things as making the coil form taller for 160 
>> meter coils, price sensitivity etc.
>>
>> Also would folks possibly by a set of coils, i.e. 15 coil forms for 
>> $100.00 ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your input.
>>
>> Best 73's
>>
>> Paul - WB2NMI
>> 

From radio at daileyservices.com  Thu Nov  3 15:51:24 2016
From: radio at daileyservices.com (radio)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 13:51:24 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
In-Reply-To: <376263702.107462946.1478187126451.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>
References: <376263702.107462946.1478187126451.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <23fd366c-4f04-10a8-f6d2-3c9f214ddccf@daileyservices.com>

Pardon my ignorance (it's showing again, isn't it?)... but with the 
existing 1st. IF freq, how well would the 160m coilsets work? I've never 
tried any but the standard 5, plus one for 30m that came out okay,.

Tom - W0EAJ


From prh at aol.com  Thu Nov  3 16:03:09 2016
From: prh at aol.com (Paul Horenstein K2PH)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 16:03:09 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
In-Reply-To: <3204723046E448C48D173ABE67AAD8B9@dc7100>
References: <376263702.107462946.1478187126451.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>
	<f4dd3e46-63b9-4270-0a5c-8335ce325f0d@comcast.net>
	<3204723046E448C48D173ABE67AAD8B9@dc7100>
Message-ID: <1582bc9b4ad-fad-8e@webstg-m09.mail.aol.com>

I too would be interested in a set.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hooser <jh7092 at dishup.us>
To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2016 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms

I would take a set.Yes make the 160 meter ones also
Jim KC9MNX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. Smith" <smithab11 at comcast.net>
To: "HBR Receiver List" <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms


>     Definitely make tall forms for the 160 meter coils.
> breck k4che
>
> On 11/3/2016 11:32 AM, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>> All
>>
>> Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the HBR coil 
>> form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded clear styrene with 5 
>> pins, tin plated.
>>
>> Looking at tooling cost and cost for pins, the piece price hits $10.00 
>> each to recoup the setup and tooling costs for volumes in the hundreds of 
>> parts.
>>
>> I look for input on such things as making the coil form taller for 160 
>> meter coils, price sensitivity etc.
>>
>> Also would folks possibly by a set of coils, i.e. 15 coil forms for 
>> $100.00 ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your input.
>>
>> Best 73's
>>
>> Paul - WB2NMI
>> 
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From hro5-2 at cox.net  Tue Nov  8 11:46:21 2016
From: hro5-2 at cox.net (Jim Hill)
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 08:46:21 -0800
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
In-Reply-To: <3TwR1u02l45oxQM01TwkqT>
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At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
If additional coil sales would reduce startup costs, I suggest you 
also look into manufacturing National SW-3 coil forms.  The SW-3 was 
a regenerative receiver sold in the early 30's, and is currently a 
very desirable item.  It uses a 6-pin coil form with normal pin 
diameters, but with different pin spacing (since the receiver was 
designed and originally sold before 6-pin tubes were available).  If 
you are interested, I'll provide details.
Jim

At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>All
>Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the HBR 
>coil form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded clear 
>styrene with 5 pins, tin plated.
>Looking at tooling cost and cost for pins, the piece price hits 
>$10.00 each to recoup the setup and tooling costs for volumes in the 
>hundreds of parts.
>snip
>Paul - WB2NMI
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From roomberg at ptd.net  Tue Nov  8 12:07:25 2016
From: roomberg at ptd.net (Rob)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:07:25 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
In-Reply-To: <20161108164629.ROWD4001.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109.cox.net>
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Can you point to any magazine article that shows how to build this SW-3?

On 11/08/2016 11:46 AM, Jim Hill wrote:
> At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
> If additional coil sales would reduce startup costs, I suggest you 
> also look into manufacturing National SW-3 coil forms.  The SW-3 was a 
> regenerative receiver sold in the early 30's, and is currently a very 
> desirable item.  It uses a 6-pin coil form with normal pin diameters, 
> but with different pin spacing (since the receiver was designed and 
> originally sold before 6-pin tubes were available).  If you are 
> interested, I'll provide details.
> Jim
>
> At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>> All
>> Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the HBR 
>> coil form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded clear 
>> styrene with 5 pins, tin plated.
>> Looking at tooling cost and cost for pins, the piece price hits 
>> $10.00 each to recoup the setup and tooling costs for volumes in the 
>> hundreds of parts.
>> snip
>> Paul - WB2NMI
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Tue Nov  8 12:52:02 2016
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 11:52:02 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
In-Reply-To: <5822064D.3030806@ptd.net>
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Here?s at least a start to the SW 3 info gathering
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ

http://www.antiqueradios.org/gazette/SWevol.htm



On Nov 8, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Rob <roomberg at ptd.net> wrote:

> Can you point to any magazine article that shows how to build this SW-3?
> 
> On 11/08/2016 11:46 AM, Jim Hill wrote:
>> At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>> If additional coil sales would reduce startup costs, I suggest you also look into manufacturing National SW-3 coil forms.  The SW-3 was a regenerative receiver sold in the early 30's, and is currently a very desirable item.  It uses a 6-pin coil form with normal pin diameters, but with different pin spacing (since the receiver was designed and originally sold before 6-pin tubes were available).  If you are interested, I'll provide details.
>> Jim
>> 
>> At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>>> All
>>> Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the HBR coil form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded clear styrene with 5 pins, ti 

From mcinsand at gmail.com  Tue Nov  8 13:29:48 2016
From: mcinsand at gmail.com (Stan McIntosh)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:29:48 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
In-Reply-To: <12BDC27D-82E3-4F4F-88E7-5C26F87365A9@charter.net>
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To all, just to throw it out there, does anyone know of an HBR-8 that might
need a good home?  I've been keeping my eyes open, but I haven't seen any.

73
Stan
KD4BTH

From mcinsand at gmail.com  Tue Nov  8 16:25:11 2016
From: mcinsand at gmail.com (Stan McIntosh)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 16:25:11 -0500
Subject: [HBR] WTB HBR-8
Message-ID: <CAKVLtWN26VjyejRUdKVGvQOz8YobcmHo__QyD3uJkUgJnRr_gQ@mail.gmail.com>

To all, just to throw it out there, does anyone know of an HBR-8 that might
need a good home?  I've been keeping my eyes open, but I haven't seen any.

This is a repeat of a message I sent out a while ago.  Honestly, I do know
how to edit a subject line, thought I (obviously) sometimes forget.

73
Stan
KD4BTH

From pdulaff at embarqmail.com  Tue Nov  8 22:27:30 2016
From: pdulaff at embarqmail.com (Paul Dulaff)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 22:27:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
In-Reply-To: <12BDC27D-82E3-4F4F-88E7-5C26F87365A9@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1573639814.116688039.1478662050602.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>

All

Good information on the National Regens.

Can we use the same diameter and height for the coil form for both the HBR and the National, assuming we raise the height of the coil form to what works on 160 meters for the HBR ? 

Where can I find the base dimensions of the 6 pin coil forms for these receivers ?

Is there a need for 4 pin coil forms ?

Best 73's all

Paul - WB2NMI

----- Original Message -----
From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net>
To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 12:52:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms

Here?s at least a start to the SW 3 info gathering
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ

http://www.antiqueradios.org/gazette/SWevol.htm



On Nov 8, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Rob <roomberg at ptd.net> wrote:

> Can you point to any magazine article that shows how to build this SW-3?
> 
> On 11/08/2016 11:46 AM, Jim Hill wrote:
>> At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>> If additional coil sales would reduce startup costs, I suggest you also look into manufacturing National SW-3 coil forms.  The SW-3 was a regenerative receiver sold in the early 30's, and is currently a very desirable item.  It uses a 6-pin coil form with normal pin diameters, but with different pin spacing (since the receiver was designed and originally sold before 6-pin tubes were available).  If you are interested, I'll provide details.
>> Jim
>> 
>> At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>>> All
>>> Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the HBR coil form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded clear styrene with 5 pins, ti 
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From hro5-2 at cox.net  Thu Nov 10 01:56:38 2016
From: hro5-2 at cox.net (Jim Hill)
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2016 22:56:38 -0800
Subject: [HBR] 24-5P Molded Coil Forms
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Rob:
I have never seen a construction article.  It's a commercial receiver 
using a special variable capacitor, plus a hard-to-find audio 
inductor. SW-3 Pix's can be seen at 
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=sw-3+receiver&fr=yhs-mozilla-001&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fla5ki%2Forg%2Fna%2Fsw3_3.jpg#id=6&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fab0cw%2Fsw3-5.jpg&action=click 
eBay lists them from time to time, so more pix's, etc. are available there.

More info is available at http://www.boatanchors.org/SW3.htm,  which 
includes a link to an article in an early issue of QST that covers 
the design.  The repro isn't the best, and if you belong to the ARRL, 
free online copies of earlier back issues QST are available with 
better resolution through their web site.

There are better links covering the SW-3, but I cannot find them now.

If you are interested in building regen receivers in general, join 
regenrx at yahoogroups.com

There are two groups/reflectors covering National radio equipment; 
you could query them about homebrew SW-3's; 
nationalradio at yahoogroups.com  The reflector is national at mailman.qth.net.
Go to http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo to subscribe.  After 
writing this, I noticed I'm duplicating another post.  It is easier 
to just include the dup.

Paul:
I'm leaving for a long weekend tomorrow, but when I return I'll 
measure coil dimensions.  If it sounds like a good idea, I suggest 
you query the National groups and see if there's interest, 
particularly since your coils are clear and the National coils are 
light brown.  I can also loan you a socket that someone included as 
part of a wave meter made years ago.  The wave meter is well made, so 
I never attempted to remove the socket.

I have never seen a HBR receiver, but remember the original articles in QST.

73's Jim

At 09:07 AM 11/8/2016, Rob wrote:
>Can you point to any magazine article that shows how to build this SW-3?
>
>On 11/08/2016 11:46 AM, Jim Hill wrote:
>>At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>>If additional coil sales would reduce startup costs, I suggest you 
>>also look into manufacturing National SW-3 coil forms.  The SW-3 
>>was a regenerative receiver sold in the early 30's, and is 
>>currently a very desirable item.  It uses a 6-pin coil form with 
>>normal pin diameters, but with different pin spacing (since the 
>>receiver was designed and originally sold before 6-pin tubes were 
>>available).  If you are interested, I'll provide details.
>>Jim
>>
>>At 07:32 AM 11/3/2016, Paul Dulaff wrote:
>>>All
>>>Looking at the potential for tooling up, in a low cost way, the 
>>>HBR coil form. This would be an exact piece, injection molded 
>>>clear styrene with 5 pins, tin plated.
>>>Looking at tooling cost and cost for pins, the piece price hits 
>>>$10.00 each to recoup the setup and tooling costs for volumes in 
>>>the hundreds of parts.
>>>snip
>>>Paul - WB2NMI
>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>HBR mailing list
>>>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>>>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>Post: mailto:HBR at mailman.qth.net
>>>
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>>
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