From bignick at execpc.com  Mon Feb  2 21:37:55 2015
From: bignick at execpc.com (bignick at execpc.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 21:37:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HBR] "On The Air" with my HBR & Sweep Tube Transmitter :-)
Message-ID: <58664.174.102.199.116.1422931075.squirrel@webmail.core.com>



Hello,

Just a note to mention that I've been using my HBR on
the air, now that I've debugged
my sweep tube xmitter enough to use
it! :-)

Hopefully, this link will work!

http://www.bignick.net/Morgan_Radio/Homebrewed SSB Transmitter.pdf

73

--KC9KEP / Tom


From bignick at execpc.com  Tue Feb  3 08:23:57 2015
From: bignick at execpc.com (bignick at execpc.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 08:23:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HBR] "On The Air" with my HBR & Sweep Tube Transmitter - New Link!
Message-ID: <59149.174.102.199.116.1422969837.squirrel@webmail.core.com>



OK, it looks like the "white spaces" are a problem.

Please try this link :-)

http://www.bignick.net/Morgan_Radio/Homebrewed_SSB_Transmitter.pdf

Thanks!

From john_wilkinson3 at sky.com  Tue Feb  3 10:18:48 2015
From: john_wilkinson3 at sky.com (john_wilkinson3 at sky.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:18:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [HBR] HBR with switched coils
Message-ID: <1918889150.1672035.1422976728224.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Thank you for the help.I did think of using toroids for the RF stage, but I was worried how to vary the coupling from the transformer primaries.As I understand, in the original design the coupling was varied to just below the point of re-gen, to give the maximum selectivity. How would I do this using toroids? does anyone have experience of trying to do this?
Also How would I vary the inductance of toroids when aligning them?
regards,John

From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 10:45:06 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 07:45:06 -0800
Subject: [HBR] HBR with switched coils
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References: <1918889150.1672035.1422976728224.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
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You can vary the inductance of toroids slightly by squashing some
of the turns together. This is not particularly easy to do when the
toroids have been built into whatever assembly you are using. I
usually measure toroids after winding, and adjust to the required
inductance.

I don't know how much excess gain the front end has on the
various bands (i.e. how far into regeneration you can move the
RF amplifier). Something to experiment with...

73, ian K3IMW


On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:18 AM, john_wilkinson3 at sky.com <
john_wilkinson3 at sky.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the help.I did think of using toroids for the RF stage, but
> I was worried how to vary the coupling from the transformer primaries.As I
> understand, in the original design the coupling was varied to just below
> the point of re-gen, to give the maximum selectivity. How would I do this
> using toroids? does anyone have experience of trying to do this?
> Also How would I vary the inductance of toroids when aligning them?
> regards,John
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Thu Feb 12 23:14:39 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:14:39 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 85 Kc  Ifs at that watery place
Message-ID: <F1E3FD7C-E1C9-48BB-916E-71F66D44EA40@charter.net>

no connexion to auction
figured one or two of you might want these,
I have mine, so I won?t bid against ya : )
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ


http://www.ebay.com/itm/85-Kc-IF-Cans-from-WWII-ARC-5-Radio-Equipment-Set-of-six-NOS-/221685199194?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d77b15a

From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 08:27:20 2015
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:27:20 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 85 Kc  Ifs at that watery place
In-Reply-To: <F1E3FD7C-E1C9-48BB-916E-71F66D44EA40@charter.net>
References: <F1E3FD7C-E1C9-48BB-916E-71F66D44EA40@charter.net>
Message-ID: <54DDFBB8.3040404@gmail.com>

Hi Bill,

There probably are some of our friends looking for those. I recently 
sent the extra ones I had to a new home. Those look like they unused but 
the ones I had came in a sealed paper and foil wrapper inside the box. 
Two of mine had been opened but were still in that opened wrapper inside 
the box. The couplers listed on the Bay look like new so the 
"ne-old-stock" description looks about right. Brand new would include 
the unopened paper and foil wrapper. Unless a winding gets burned open, 
there isn't much of anything inside to get "worn out" or "used up" even 
if they spent 65 years in a radio that was on every day. I have only one 
set that are not in a radio and thinking of using them in my own HBR.

73,

Bill  KU8H



On 02/12/2015 11:14 PM, William Wood wrote:
> no connexion to auction
> figured one or two of you might want these,
> I have mine, so I won?t bid against ya : )
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/85-Kc-IF-Cans-from-WWII-ARC-5-Radio-Equipment-Set-of-six-NOS-/221685199194?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d77b15a
> ______________________________________________________________
>


From mcinsand at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 08:31:29 2015
From: mcinsand at gmail.com (Stan McIntosh)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:31:29 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 85 Kc Ifs at that watery place
In-Reply-To: <54DDFBB8.3040404@gmail.com>
References: <F1E3FD7C-E1C9-48BB-916E-71F66D44EA40@charter.net>
	<54DDFBB8.3040404@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKVLtWMDchwbJcuDS0LnnAmdS30yCRCyf-NvF-FZsECOaLfHMw@mail.gmail.com>

Just how much trouble are we asking for if we try to custom-wind a can for
a given frequency?  Sure, I know how to use a dip-meter, but a friend years
ago gave me a baggie full of unassembled IF cans... including empty bobbins
for the wire.

Regards,
Stan
kd4bth

From mmarris at notecraft.com  Fri Feb 13 08:40:02 2015
From: mmarris at notecraft.com (Martin Marris)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:40:02 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 85 Kc Ifs at that watery place
In-Reply-To: <CAKVLtWMDchwbJcuDS0LnnAmdS30yCRCyf-NvF-FZsECOaLfHMw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAKVLtWMDchwbJcuDS0LnnAmdS30yCRCyf-NvF-FZsECOaLfHMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001501d04792$91f982f0$b5ec88d0$@notecraft.com>

Relatively hard to do without a coil winder (because of the large number of
turns compared to, for instance, a typical ham plugin coil; and the
honeycomb winding style). I have a Morris coil winder or you can build your
own.  (I haven't yet used my coil winder, but I have a 1950s "IF transformer
kit" with dozens of forms, cans and slugs and I really should play with it
one day.)

If you want the best IF transformers though I think something like the ARC
cans are going to be better than anything you could make yourself.

One ham who's wound his own IF-style coils using a coil winder is:

http://www.bignick.net/TubeRadio.htm

(scroll down and you'll see pictures of his homebrew Gingery coil winder,
and some of the coils he made with it).

73 de Martin, KB1WSY




-----Original Message-----
From: HBR [mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Stan McIntosh
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 08:31
To: HBR Receiver List
Subject: Re: [HBR] 85 Kc Ifs at that watery place

Just how much trouble are we asking for if we try to custom-wind a can for a
given frequency?  Sure, I know how to use a dip-meter, but a friend years
ago gave me a baggie full of unassembled IF cans... including empty bobbins
for the wire.

Regards,
Stan
kd4bth
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From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 09:02:38 2015
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:02:38 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 85 Kc Ifs at that watery place - wind your own
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	<CAKVLtWMDchwbJcuDS0LnnAmdS30yCRCyf-NvF-FZsECOaLfHMw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Stan,

We really can wind our own. There are several web pages describing 
various ways to do it. Martin has pointed at the bugaboo. At low IF 
frequencies such as 455 kc or even lower at 85 kc there are a lot of 
turns of very fine wire. How much patience do you have?

There *are* hams who have done it. I have unwound 455 kc cans (counting 
turns) and then rewound for a different range. I didn't need bifocals at 
the time and there were *NO* IF cans available for the frequency I 
wanted. The IF transformers I wound pretty much worked but it took a 
long time and a sore neck to complete.

Martin mentioned the coil winder and if I was going to wind coils in 
those frequency ranges again I would acquire one. There are plans on the 
web to build your own.

73,

Bill  KU8H


On 02/13/2015 08:31 AM, Stan McIntosh wrote:
> Just how much trouble are we asking for if we try to custom-wind a can for
> a given frequency?  Sure, I know how to use a dip-meter, but a friend years
> ago gave me a baggie full of unassembled IF cans... including empty bobbins
> for the wire.
>
> Regards,
> Stan
> kd4bth
> ______________________________________________________________
>


From radioconnection at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 09:16:50 2015
From: radioconnection at gmail.com (Peter Bertini)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:16:50 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 85 Kc Ifs at that watery place - wind your own
In-Reply-To: <54DE03FE.9080309@gmail.com>
References: <F1E3FD7C-E1C9-48BB-916E-71F66D44EA40@charter.net>
	<54DDFBB8.3040404@gmail.com>
	<CAKVLtWMDchwbJcuDS0LnnAmdS30yCRCyf-NvF-FZsECOaLfHMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<54DE03FE.9080309@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+uDY2S2zz=q=jOu3ZdWzXrcHBt+30S-f5Qq7QbS2bQSKeZ=FA@mail.gmail.com>

Another source is scrapped Hallicrafter receivers.  I've seen the IF cans
and conversion osc/mixer doghouses on ePay, usually from SX-101 or similar
sets. Another bonus is being able to duplicate the Haliicrafters adjustable
IF BW by copying the schematic.

Pete k1zjh

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stan,
>
> We really can wind our own. There are several web pages describing various
> ways to do it. Martin has pointed at the bugaboo. At low IF frequencies
> such as 455 kc or even lower at 85 kc there are a lot of turns of very fine
> wire. How much patience do you have?
>
> There *are* hams who have done it. I have unwound 455 kc cans (counting
> turns) and then rewound for a different range. I didn't need bifocals at
> the time and there were *NO* IF cans available for the frequency I wanted.
> The IF transformers I wound pretty much worked but it took a long time and
> a sore neck to complete.
>
> Martin mentioned the coil winder and if I was going to wind coils in those
> frequency ranges again I would acquire one. There are plans on the web to
> build your own.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill  KU8H
>
>
> On 02/13/2015 08:31 AM, Stan McIntosh wrote:
>
>> Just how much trouble are we asking for if we try to custom-wind a can for
>> a given frequency?  Sure, I know how to use a dip-meter, but a friend
>> years
>> ago gave me a baggie full of unassembled IF cans... including empty
>> bobbins
>> for the wire.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stan
>> kd4bth
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>>
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From smithab11 at comcast.net  Sat Feb 14 15:07:14 2015
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:07:14 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 85 Kc Ifs at that watery place - wind your own
In-Reply-To: <54DE03FE.9080309@gmail.com>
References: <F1E3FD7C-E1C9-48BB-916E-71F66D44EA40@charter.net>	<54DDFBB8.3040404@gmail.com>	<CAKVLtWMDchwbJcuDS0LnnAmdS30yCRCyf-NvF-FZsECOaLfHMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<54DE03FE.9080309@gmail.com>
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          Best bet is to acquire a Morris Coilmaster winder. I've 
attempted home brew winders using a friction coupling and was never 
satisfied with the results as my rubber drive settings eventually 
drifted on coils with a large turns count such as 700-800 or  larger but 
I will continue to play with it. BTW additional cams for the Coilmaster 
can be fabricated by shaping a fender washer and soldering on a quarter 
inch shaft coupling off of center.
Video of my Coilmaster:
http://k4che.com/Tempvideo/Morrisosc.mp4

  Random winding coils can be made using sewing machine bobbins as 
suggested by k5bcg.
http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/COIL/COIL.html
          When using the plastic sewing machine bobbins you can remove 
the sides of two of the bobbins and tape the shafts together together to 
accommodate  more wire. The bobbins keep all the windings in one place 
as you random weave the wire back and forth.  A shaft on a electric 
screw driver can  turn the bobbin while you concentrate on weaving the wire.

BTW a handy turns counter can be made using a micro-switch and a $1 
dollar store calculator. Only the cheaper calculators can be modified.

http://k4che.com/Tempvideo/Digcounter.mp4

What is the mod to the calculator? That is the home work assignment.

Many thanks to N3FRQ for his generosity and transferring "stuff from his 
pile to my pile".

k4che




On 2/13/2015 9:02 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote:
> Hi Stan,
>
> We really can wind our own. There are several web pages describing 
> various ways to do it. Martin has pointed at the bugaboo. At low IF 
> frequencies such as 455 kc or even lower at 85 kc there are a lot of 
> turns of very fine wire. How much patience do you have?
>
> There *are* hams who have done it. I have unwound 455 kc cans 
> (counting turns) and then rewound for a different range. I didn't need 
> bifocals at the time and there were *NO* IF cans available for the 
> frequency I wanted. The IF transformers I wound pretty much worked but 
> it took a long time and a sore neck to complete.
>
> Martin mentioned the coil winder and if I was going to wind coils in 
> those frequency ranges again I would acquire one. There are plans on 
> the web to build your own.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill  KU8H
>
>
> On 02/13/2015 08:31 AM, Stan McIntosh wrote:
>> Just how much trouble are we asking for if we try to custom-wind a 
>> can for
>> a given frequency?  Sure, I know how to use a dip-meter, but a friend 
>> years
>> ago gave me a baggie full of unassembled IF cans... including empty 
>> bobbins
>> for the wire.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stan
>> kd4bth
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>
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From bignick at execpc.com  Sat Feb 14 16:55:47 2015
From: bignick at execpc.com (bignick at execpc.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:55:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HBR] 85 Kc Ifs at that watery place - wind your own
In-Reply-To: <54DFAAF2.6000809@comcast.net>
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	<54DDFBB8.3040404@gmail.com>
	<CAKVLtWMDchwbJcuDS0LnnAmdS30yCRCyf-NvF-FZsECOaLfHMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<54DE03FE.9080309@gmail.com> <54DFAAF2.6000809@comcast.net>
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Sheesh!

Embrace the homebrewer within you!

Build
your own winder .. Like this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIOocMoRsYQ

--KC9KEP


>           Best bet is to acquire a Morris Coilmaster winder.
I've
> attempted home brew winders using a friction coupling and
was never
> satisfied with the results as my rubber drive settings
eventually
> drifted on coils with a large turns count such as
700-800 or  larger but
> I will continue to play with it. BTW
additional cams for the Coilmaster
> can be fabricated by shaping
a fender washer and soldering on a quarter
> inch shaft coupling
off of center.
> Video of my Coilmaster:
>
http://k4che.com/Tempvideo/Morrisosc.mp4
> 
>   Random
winding coils can be made using sewing machine bobbins as
>
suggested by k5bcg.
> http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/COIL/COIL.html
>           When using the plastic sewing machine bobbins you can
remove
> the sides of two of the bobbins and tape the shafts
together together to
> accommodate  more wire. The bobbins keep
all the windings in one place
> as you random weave the wire back
and forth.  A shaft on a electric
> screw driver can  turn the
bobbin while you concentrate on weaving the
> wire.
> 
> BTW a handy turns counter can be made using a micro-switch and a
$1
> dollar store calculator. Only the cheaper calculators can be
modified.
> 
>
http://k4che.com/Tempvideo/Digcounter.mp4
> 
> What is the
mod to the calculator? That is the home work assignment.
> 
> Many thanks to N3FRQ for his generosity and transferring
"stuff from his
> pile to my pile".
> 
>
k4che
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/13/2015
9:02 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote:
>> Hi Stan,
>>
>> We really can wind our own. There are several web pages
describing
>> various ways to do it. Martin has pointed at the
bugaboo. At low IF
>> frequencies such as 455 kc or even lower
at 85 kc there are a lot of
>> turns of very fine wire. How
much patience do you have?
>>
>> There *are* hams
who have done it. I have unwound 455 kc cans
>> (counting
turns) and then rewound for a different range. I didn't need
>>
bifocals at the time and there were *NO* IF cans available for the
>> frequency I wanted. The IF transformers I wound pretty much
worked but
>> it took a long time and a sore neck to
complete.
>>
>> Martin mentioned the coil winder and
if I was going to wind coils in
>> those frequency ranges again
I would acquire one. There are plans on
>> the web to build
your own.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bill
 KU8H
>>
>>
>> On 02/13/2015 08:31 AM,
Stan McIntosh wrote:
>>> Just how much trouble are we asking
for if we try to custom-wind a
>>> can for
>>>
a given frequency?  Sure, I know how to use a dip-meter, but a friend
>>> years
>>> ago gave me a baggie full of
unassembled IF cans... including empty
>>> bobbins
>>> for the wire.
>>>
>>>
Regards,
>>> Stan
>>> kd4bth
>>>
______________________________________________________________
>>>
>>
>>
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http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
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From radio at daileyservices.com  Sat Feb 14 23:09:56 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (radio at daileyservices.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:09:56 -0700
Subject: [HBR] HB Coil Winder
References: <F1E3FD7C-E1C9-48BB-916E-71F66D44EA40@charter.net><54DDFBB8.3040404@gmail.com><CAKVLtWMDchwbJcuDS0LnnAmdS30yCRCyf-NvF-FZsECOaLfHMw@mail.gmail.com><54DE03FE.9080309@gmail.com>
	<54DFAAF2.6000809@comcast.net>
	<58275.174.102.199.116.1423950947.squirrel@webmail.core.com>
Message-ID: <6765CCC17F31497CAB84580FD66349E3@w0eaj>

Wow - so very cool

Tom

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From ke9xq at charter.net  Mon Feb 16 11:14:05 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Debating HR 13C
Message-ID: <3B8743CC-BBA3-4128-B885-6C317BB4501D@charter.net>

Just finished re reading
chapter one with those
letters and such from Ted
and wondered if anyone here
has familiarity with the 13C
and the apparent lack of
regen in or out of the cabinet???

Seems Ted favored the left hand side
for this problem resolving, and I had
planned on trying to have everything
at least sort of symmetrical, and if I
am going to sacrifice anything by
doing this, I will change those plans.

I?ve not drilled any holes or anything
yet on my chassis, so there is plenty
of time to change my plans.

Thanks Guys
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ 

From whitebear1122 at comcast.net  Mon Feb 16 14:14:46 2015
From: whitebear1122 at comcast.net (Whitebear1122)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:14:46 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Debating HR 13C
In-Reply-To: <3B8743CC-BBA3-4128-B885-6C317BB4501D@charter.net>
References: <3B8743CC-BBA3-4128-B885-6C317BB4501D@charter.net>
Message-ID: <9154354D-206A-4D58-91D5-065903BB31EE@comcast.net>

BIll, I don't' know too much but I'll tell you what I've read and heard 2nd and 3rd hand.  I am in the process of building an HBR-13 and looked into the regen issue. 

I've heard/read that the HBR-13 center dial design was Alex Stewarts idea to give the HBR a nice balanced professional look.   For some unknown reason he was unable to get the regen IF's to oscillate as expected.  He consulted with Ted and eventually Ted got ahold of the receiver and was also unable to get the regen to work right.  There was much speculation but as far as I know they never were able to really explain it nor resolve it.  I thought I heard that Ted finally speculated that it had to do with the physical placement of the circuitry on the chassis and interactions with chassis and the cabinet.  Vague for sure.  

I was going to build a 13C but was given advice to optimize the receiver by putting the Eddystone and sub chassis on the left side of the front panel.  I'll let you know how it works out.  I do have a 13C built by someone else and it is a wonderful radio but the amplifiers to not oscillate as aggressively if at all as my HBR16. 

I have pictures of my 13 project up on my qrz.com page (wa9wfa).  The pictures show it  as of last summer when I completed the mechanical milling and drilling, mounting the Eddystone to the front panel to see if things line up, and just setting the IF transformers and tube sockets in the holes, pots on the chassis while checking for clearance.  No I'm not planning on having the chassis mounted pots adjust from the bottom hi hi.  I just set the pots in the holes to make sure there was clearance.  :)

I just started wiring a week ago.  I finished wiring the RF sub chassis this past weekend and now I'm mounting it to the main chassis.  This is my very first point to point radio project that I've ever built so it's a challenge for me.  I also had to learn how to use a milling machine to mill out the front panel and chassis.  
 
73, Scott WA9WFA


From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Mon Feb 16 18:52:16 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Gary Wells via HBR)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 23:52:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [HBR] Debating HR 13C
In-Reply-To: <3B8743CC-BBA3-4128-B885-6C317BB4501D@charter.net>
References: <3B8743CC-BBA3-4128-B885-6C317BB4501D@charter.net>
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I have a 13C and I really don't recognize any difference in or out of the cabinet. Mine is centered. I still have winding to do for 20 meters and higher coils. I can only speak to 80 and 40. My opinion is to stick with the original layout and templates and avoid adding new variables to the equation. Just my 2 cents.
GaryWB9AYD
      From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net>
 To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:14 AM
 Subject: [HBR] Debating HR 13C
   
Just finished re reading
chapter one with those
letters and such from Ted
and wondered if anyone here
has familiarity with the 13C
and the apparent lack of
regen in or out of the cabinet???

Seems Ted favored the left hand side
for this problem resolving, and I had
planned on trying to have everything
at least sort of symmetrical, and if I
am going to sacrifice anything by
doing this, I will change those plans.

I?ve not drilled any holes or anything
yet on my chassis, so there is plenty
of time to change my plans.

Thanks Guys
73 fer now
Bill? KE9XQ 
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Mon Feb 16 19:07:59 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:07:59 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Debating HR 13C
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	<9154354D-206A-4D58-91D5-065903BB31EE@comcast.net>
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Hey Scott
   beautiful work, I?m leaning toward the 
left hand side for the Eddystone dial myself
even tho it looks like ted and company did
get the 13C to working, it looks like it is a
lot easier to get the regen going with the
physical layout.  I?m now on chapter three.
I read this whole thing several years ago, but
need to refresh my memory banks once again
before I start drilling and such.
   I downloaded you pictures, looks like good
workmanship OM : )  Am looking forward to hearing
of your success : )
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ



On Feb 16, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Whitebear1122 <whitebear1122 at comcast.net> wrote:

> wa9wfa


From ke9xq at charter.net  Mon Feb 16 19:11:18 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:11:18 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Debating HR 13C
In-Reply-To: <1621634533.3870968.1424130736062.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <3B8743CC-BBA3-4128-B885-6C317BB4501D@charter.net>
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Thanks Gary : )
now I?m more unsure of myself : )
But I do believe the ?C? ended up 
working pretty good?   I still have
plenty of time, as I?m digging through
that black hole some call a basement
for all the parts I?ve been saving and
then make a list of some goodies to
send off for.
Thanks man
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ



On Feb 16, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Gary Wells via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I have a 13C and I really don't recognize any difference in or out of the cabinet. Mine is centered. I still have winding to do for 20 meters and higher coils. I can only speak to 80 and 40. My opinion is to stick with the original layout and templates and avoid adding new variables to the equation. Just my 2 cents.
> GaryWB9AYD
>      From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net>
> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net> 
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:14 AM
> Subject: [HBR] Debating HR 13C
> 
> Just finished re reading
> chapter one with those
> letters and such from Ted
> and wondered if anyone here
> has familiarity with the 13C
> and the apparent lack of
> regen in or out of the cabinet???
> 
> Seems Ted favored the left hand side
> for this problem resolving, and I had
> planned on trying to have everything
> at least sort of symmetrical, and if I
> am going to sacrifice anything by
> doing this, I will change those plans.
> 
> I?ve not drilled any holes or anything
> yet on my chassis, so there is plenty
> of time to change my plans.
> 
> Thanks Guys
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ 
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From whitebear1122 at comcast.net  Mon Feb 16 22:53:39 2015
From: whitebear1122 at comcast.net (Whitebear1122)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 21:53:39 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Debating HR 13C
In-Reply-To: <FA5BE7E4-6601-4EB0-9C20-6DF0EEAB7E30@charter.net>
References: <3B8743CC-BBA3-4128-B885-6C317BB4501D@charter.net>
	<1621634533.3870968.1424130736062.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<FA5BE7E4-6601-4EB0-9C20-6DF0EEAB7E30@charter.net>
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The 13C that I have is a fabulous performer.  I don't think you will go wrong with either configuration. 73, Scott WA9WFA

On Feb 16, 2015, at 6:11 PM, William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net> wrote:

> Thanks Gary : )
> now I?m more unsure of myself : )
> But I do believe the ?C? ended up 
> working pretty good?   I still have
> plenty of time, as I?m digging through
> that black hole some call a basement
> for all the parts I?ve been saving and
> then make a list of some goodies to
> send off for.
> Thanks man
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
> 
> 


From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 11:12:03 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:12:03 -0800
Subject: [HBR] HBR 13C performance
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	<FA5BE7E4-6601-4EB0-9C20-6DF0EEAB7E30@charter.net>
	<16C16DC2-60DC-4882-B803-DB2BADF13699@comcast.net>
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Hello Scott,

~ "The 13C that I have is a fabulous performer."  

Do you ever have a problem with the 13C overloading with strong adjacent
signals? My only reservation about the HBR designs is the regenerative front
end. My understanding is that regenerative circuits provide excellent
sensitivity and selectivity until a strong nearby signal comes on. I would
really like to be wrong about this.

Oh yeah, I do have another reservation. An HBR looks like a really big
project!

Cheers,

Brian 



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From ke9xq at charter.net  Tue Feb 17 11:54:47 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:54:47 -0600
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
Message-ID: <19A70DC3-CC4B-4C9B-86B8-AEA920A8AFB2@charter.net>

Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
Weren?t you saving the parts for one???  Anyways, I think the
strong local can give you problems, according to the book that
can be a problem.  But you can have several work arounds for this
one of course cuts down on your sensitivity.  There are other ways
to work around that problem too, T notch filter and such.
1.  Attenuate 
2.  Less Regen
3.  filters
I?m sure there are others, like ?not' except-able quiet times : )
Usually from what I hear, when there is a will, there is a way?

I?m now on chapter three of THE Book : ), and this has been
addressed.  There are a couple of other ways to deal with strong
locals, but I won?t go into that right now : )  Nah, just kidding, but
most of the time gentlemen?s  agreements can come into play.
Most hams don?t live in their shack, so they have to shut down 
once in a while : )

Back to that filter, it looks as tho it will help overcome your local
interference,  I do know I don?t plan on taking mine out for field 
day activities.  I took an older rig out for field day once maybe a
dozen or more years ago, for the fun of it, and found out rather
quickly that it was useless : )

73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ
 

From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Tue Feb 17 13:24:50 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Brian ford via HBR)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:24:50 -0600
Subject: [HBR] HBR 13C performance
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The 1970 ARRL handbook has a schematic for a RF regenerative ad on that I am considering. The object is to increase selectivity. 

Keith 

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:12, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Scott,
> 
> ~ "The 13C that I have is a fabulous performer."  
> 
> Do you ever have a problem with the 13C overloading with strong adjacent
> signals? My only reservation about the HBR designs is the regenerative front
> end. My understanding is that regenerative circuits provide excellent
> sensitivity and selectivity until a strong nearby signal comes on. I would
> really like to be wrong about this.
> 
> Oh yeah, I do have another reservation. An HBR looks like a really big
> project!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brian 
> 
> 
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From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 13:36:41 2015
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:36:41 -0500
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
In-Reply-To: <19A70DC3-CC4B-4C9B-86B8-AEA920A8AFB2@charter.net>
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Message-ID: <54E38A39.8090707@gmail.com>

Hi Bill,

Yeah, Brian said he was going to build one for himself. I even sent him 
some of the parts. To be fair Brian paid me generously for them but it's 
disappointing to hear from him that he is having doubts - may not build 
one after all. He also was asking before that about building a regen to 
use on the air. In spite of assurances from regular users of regens he 
was put off by the weak points of regens and decided not to build one. I 
hope he is not getting cold feet this time. Brian?

I suspect that we can spend ten thousand dollars (or more) on a radio 
and would take a short time to discover it's weaknesses. I have a 
Kenwood R-599 with which I do much of my on-air business - including 
things like Field Day and the occasional sprint. It's an early effort at 
an all solid state receiver (1970-ish) and it's main weakness is it's 
ease of overloading. Sound familiar? When I have it connected to a full 
size antenna I have 20 dB of attenuation cranked in and I can hear the 
weak signals *BETTER* than with the attenuation out. Sometimes it's 40 
db! The attenuator is not required at all when I am using a short bit of 
wire in place of a real antenna and I still hear a lot of signals!

I would encourage anybody to build either a regen or something like the 
HBR and as a matter of fact an SDR. SDR's are the new version of hot rod 
radios and guess what. They have warts, too. I have most (maybe all) of 
the parts here to build one of the HBR models but in the meantime I have 
started being put off by all those vacuum tubes. Just the heater power 
for a radio like that is more then my entire station consumes when I use 
the Kenwood with a solid state TX. To me that is the most serious flaw. 
I know from experience what to do about overloads. Even with that 
insurmountable flaw I continue a slow march toward having my own HBR.

In the end, you have to pick one and go for it. When that's done, pick 
another and go for it. Otherwise none of it will ever get done. Just go 
ahead and build. Then start using whatever you have built. You'll get a 
much better idea of what you want to build next and you'll know why. 
Best of luck to all the builders here.

73,

Bill  KU8H


On 02/17/2015 11:54 AM, William Wood wrote:
> Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
> Weren?t you saving the parts for one???  Anyways, I think the
> strong local can give you problems, according to the book that
> can be a problem.  But you can have several work arounds for this
> one of course cuts down on your sensitivity.  There are other ways
> to work around that problem too, T notch filter and such.
> 1.  Attenuate
> 2.  Less Regen
> 3.  filters
> I?m sure there are others, like ?not' except-able quiet times : )
> Usually from what I hear, when there is a will, there is a way?
>
> I?m now on chapter three of THE Book : ), and this has been
> addressed.  There are a couple of other ways to deal with strong
> locals, but I won?t go into that right now : )  Nah, just kidding, but
> most of the time gentlemen?s  agreements can come into play.
> Most hams don?t live in their shack, so they have to shut down
> once in a while : )
>
> Back to that filter, it looks as tho it will help overcome your local
> interference,  I do know I don?t plan on taking mine out for field
> day activities.  I took an older rig out for field day once maybe a
> dozen or more years ago, for the fun of it, and found out rather
> quickly that it was useless : )
>
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
>   
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Tue Feb 17 13:37:48 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:37:48 -0600
Subject: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
Message-ID: <54BED6D7-345B-469F-9560-B139689C2861@charter.net>

I guess I want one : )
Bought the book years ago,
have a few of the parts cut and
such, but put it away for a ?rainy?
day project?

I know a little off topic, but anyone
else on board have one of these
and play with it???    Imagine all the 
obstacles that could be easily overcome
with a tool such as this : )

73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ


From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 13:51:25 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:51:25 -0800
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
In-Reply-To: <19A70DC3-CC4B-4C9B-86B8-AEA920A8AFB2@charter.net>
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Hello Bill,

~ Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : ) Weren't
you saving the parts for one???  

Yes, and I still am, but the pesky little business of making a living keeps
getting in the way. Also, since my teaching business went into the tank
along with the economy, I'm trying to do it by actually making guitars---a
tough row to hoe. 

Yes, I am in parts-collecting mode, and thanks to the generosity of the
members of the HBR list, I doing quite well at that. First priority for me
is to get setup with a place to work, and with adequate test equipment. 

I spent my entire junior year in high school building a Byron Goodman double
conversion band imaging design. That was in Redwood City, CA 1955-56, at
Sequoia High School, which offered radio shop. I could never get it to work
because the shop teacher was ignorant of superhets, and there was no test
equipment outside of VOM's. I'm determined not to let that happen again.

So far I have built a nice test bench from an old solid core door, with
shelving above and below. I just got it wired for power this weekend. 

I've acquired a signal generator from Ian, and a scope from a guitar making
student of mine, plus an Eico regulated power supply. Then there is the AADE
L//C meter, a grid dipper, and a couple of VOM's. I've got a tube tester,
and a beautiful old Hickok 209A VTVM that need to be restored. 

Though I am in excellent health for a 75 year old, I don't have the stamina
I had as a younger man. When I take a break to rest I read articles on
receivers, mostly downloaded from the QST archives from back in the day. 

One of the popular notions back then was the idea of attenuating strong
adjacent channel signals in the front end, before they got amplified by an
RF or IF stage, and before they could cause the usual havoc. I keep looking
at the front end regenerative stages in the HBR series, and wondering how
easily they might be overloaded. 

So, I'm likely to make only one communications receiver, and given that I am
the slow, meticulous type, it's likely to be a several years long project.
There are a lot of things to like about the HBR series, not the least of
which is people on the HBR list like yourself that are willing to help.

Cheers,

Brian 


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From ke9xq at charter.net  Tue Feb 17 13:52:02 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:52:02 -0600
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
In-Reply-To: <54E38A39.8090707@gmail.com>
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	<54E38A39.8090707@gmail.com>
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Hey Bill
   Don?t let that wattage discourage you fella : )
We live in a society that spends more per pet
a day, then you?ll use in power : )  Not only that OM
I will need a little extra heat in the HamShack?

   Brian, anything we can do to encourage you to
continue your pursuit be it HBR or other, run with
one or the other.  Gotta tell ya fella, been saving
parts for that Paraset too, and that?s next on my
list.
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ



On Feb 17, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> 
> Yeah, Brian said he was going to build one for himself. I even sent him some of the parts. To be fair Brian paid me generously for them but it's disappointing to hear from him that he is having doubts - may not build one after all. He also was asking before that about building a regen to use on the air. In spite of assurances from regular users of regens he was put off by the weak points of regens and decided not to build one. I hope he is not getting cold feet this time. Brian?
> 
> I suspect that we can spend ten thousand dollars (or more) on a radio and would take a short time to discover it's weaknesses. I have a Kenwood R-599 with which I do much of my on-air business - including things like Field Day and the occasional sprint. It's an early effort at an all solid state receiver (1970-ish) and it's main weakness is it's ease of overloading. Sound familiar? When I have it connected to a full size antenna I have 20 dB of attenuation cranked in and I can hear the weak signals *BETTER* than with the attenuation out. Sometimes it's 40 db! The attenuator is not required at all when I am using a short bit of wire in place of a real antenna and I still hear a lot of signals!
> 
> I would encourage anybody to build either a regen or something like the HBR and as a matter of fact an SDR. SDR's are the new version of hot rod radios and guess what. They have warts, too. I have most (maybe all) of the parts here to build one of the HBR models but in the meantime I have started being put off by all those vacuum tubes. Just the heater power for a radio like that is more then my entire station consumes when I use the Kenwood with a solid state TX. To me that is the most serious flaw. I know from experience what to do about overloads. Even with that insurmountable flaw I continue a slow march toward having my own HBR.
> 
> In the end, you have to pick one and go for it. When that's done, pick another and go for it. Otherwise none of it will ever get done. Just go ahead and build. Then start using whatever you have built. You'll get a much better idea of what you want to build next and you'll know why. Best of luck to all the builders here.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bill  KU8H
> 
> 
> On 02/17/2015 11:54 AM, William Wood wrote:
>> Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
>> Weren?t you saving the parts for one???  Anyways, I think the
>> strong local can give you problems, according to the book that
>> can be a problem.  But you can have several work arounds for this
>> one of course cuts down on your sensitivity.  There are other ways
>> to work around that problem too, T notch filter and such.
>> 1.  Attenuate
>> 2.  Less Regen
>> 3.  filters
>> I?m sure there are others, like ?not' except-able quiet times : )
>> Usually from what I hear, when there is a will, there is a way?
>> 
>> I?m now on chapter three of THE Book : ), and this has been
>> addressed.  There are a couple of other ways to deal with strong
>> locals, but I won?t go into that right now : )  Nah, just kidding, but
>> most of the time gentlemen?s  agreements can come into play.
>> Most hams don?t live in their shack, so they have to shut down
>> once in a while : )
>> 
>> Back to that filter, it looks as tho it will help overcome your local
>> interference,  I do know I don?t plan on taking mine out for field
>> day activities.  I took an older rig out for field day once maybe a
>> dozen or more years ago, for the fun of it, and found out rather
>> quickly that it was useless : )
>> 
>> 73 fer now
>> Bill  KE9XQ
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From wb6kwt at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 17 13:55:14 2015
From: wb6kwt at sbcglobal.net (wb6kwt)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:55:14 -0800
Subject: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
In-Reply-To: <54BED6D7-345B-469F-9560-B139689C2861@charter.net>
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I have one but have never used it.

Bob

On 2/17/2015 10:37 AM, William Wood wrote:
> I guess I want one : )
> Bought the book years ago,
> have a few of the parts cut and
> such, but put it away for a ?rainy?
> day project?
>
> I know a little off topic, but anyone
> else on board have one of these
> and play with it???    Imagine all the
> obstacles that could be easily overcome
> with a tool such as this : )
>
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
>
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From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 13:58:02 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:58:02 -0800
Subject: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
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Hello Bob,

Is it one of the commercially made ones? Might you be willing to sell it? I
have a little of my Christmas present ham budget left.

Cheers,

Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:55 AM
To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder

I have one but have never used it.

Bob

On 2/17/2015 10:37 AM, William Wood wrote:
> I guess I want one : )
> Bought the book years ago,
> have a few of the parts cut and
> such, but put it away for a 'rainy'
> day project.
>
> I know a little off topic, but anyone
> else on board have one of these
> and play with it???    Imagine all the
> obstacles that could be easily overcome with a tool such as this : )
>
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
>
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Tue Feb 17 14:02:26 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:02:26 -0600
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
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Glad to hear that fella
can?t let you fall off the edge OM  : )

Have some experience with guitar banjo and fiddle making and repair
that can be a sloooow business, but fun and rewarding for sure.  Sometime
I?ll tell you a story or two, but my basement is calling me, digging for
some parts that have been playing hide and seek with me?

I do have a lap steel about 30 percent done, carved it out of walnut and
is a one piece item.  Lots of chisel work : )  But hanging in the stair well
now of almost two years : )

73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ
PS NEVER EVER give up as they say : )



On Feb 17, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Bill,
> 
> ~ Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : ) Weren't
> you saving the parts for one???  
> 
> Yes, and I still am, but the pesky little business of making a living keeps
> getting in the way. Also, since my teaching business went into the tank
> along with the economy, I'm trying to do it by actually making guitars---a
> tough row to hoe. 
> 
> Yes, I am in parts-collecting mode, and thanks to the generosity of the
> members of the HBR list, I doing quite well at that. First priority for me
> is to get setup with a place to work, and with adequate test equipment. 
> 
> I spent my entire junior year in high school building a Byron Goodman double
> conversion band imaging design. That was in Redwood City, CA 1955-56, at
> Sequoia High School, which offered radio shop. I could never get it to work
> because the shop teacher was ignorant of superhets, and there was no test
> equipment outside of VOM's. I'm determined not to let that happen again.
> 
> So far I have built a nice test bench from an old solid core door, with
> shelving above and below. I just got it wired for power this weekend. 
> 
> I've acquired a signal generator from Ian, and a scope from a guitar making
> student of mine, plus an Eico regulated power supply. Then there is the AADE
> L//C meter, a grid dipper, and a couple of VOM's. I've got a tube tester,
> and a beautiful old Hickok 209A VTVM that need to be restored. 
> 
> Though I am in excellent health for a 75 year old, I don't have the stamina
> I had as a younger man. When I take a break to rest I read articles on
> receivers, mostly downloaded from the QST archives from back in the day. 
> 
> One of the popular notions back then was the idea of attenuating strong
> adjacent channel signals in the front end, before they got amplified by an
> RF or IF stage, and before they could cause the usual havoc. I keep looking
> at the front end regenerative stages in the HBR series, and wondering how
> easily they might be overloaded. 
> 
> So, I'm likely to make only one communications receiver, and given that I am
> the slow, meticulous type, it's likely to be a several years long project.
> There are a lot of things to like about the HBR series, not the least of
> which is people on the HBR list like yourself that are willing to help.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brian 
> 
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From wb6kwt at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 17 14:29:08 2015
From: wb6kwt at sbcglobal.net (wb6kwt)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:29:08 -0800
Subject: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
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Brian,

It's a commercially made one, I bought it off of ebay sometime ago. I 
have $75 in it
but I would let it go for $50. I'm not sure all of the different cams 
are there though.
I can take a picture of it and send to you.

Bob

On 2/17/2015 10:58 AM, Brian Burns wrote:
> Hello Bob,
>
> Is it one of the commercially made ones? Might you be willing to sell it? I
> have a little of my Christmas present ham budget left.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HBR [mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of wb6kwt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:55 AM
> To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
>
> I have one but have never used it.
>
> Bob
>
> On 2/17/2015 10:37 AM, William Wood wrote:
>> I guess I want one : )
>> Bought the book years ago,
>> have a few of the parts cut and
>> such, but put it away for a 'rainy'
>> day project.
>>
>> I know a little off topic, but anyone
>> else on board have one of these
>> and play with it???    Imagine all the
>> obstacles that could be easily overcome with a tool such as this : )
>>
>> 73 fer now
>> Bill  KE9XQ
>>
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From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 14:51:23 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:51:23 -0800
Subject: [HBR] Coil winder pictures
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Hello Bob,

By all means send me some pictures! I'm really interested in it. I can
probably make any cams I'm likely to need.

You can send the pictures to:

brian at lessonsinlutherie dot com

Many thanks (:->)...

Cheers,

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: HBR [mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of wb6kwt
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:29 AM
To: HBR Receiver List
Subject: Re: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder

Brian,

It's a commercially made one, I bought it off of ebay sometime ago. I have
$75 in it but I would let it go for $50. I'm not sure all of the different
cams are there though.
I can take a picture of it and send to you.

Bob

On 2/17/2015 10:58 AM, Brian Burns wrote:
> Hello Bob,
>
> Is it one of the commercially made ones? Might you be willing to sell 
> it? I have a little of my Christmas present ham budget left.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HBR [mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of wb6kwt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:55 AM
> To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
>
> I have one but have never used it.
>
> Bob
>
> On 2/17/2015 10:37 AM, William Wood wrote:
>> I guess I want one : )
>> Bought the book years ago,
>> have a few of the parts cut and
>> such, but put it away for a 'rainy'
>> day project.
>>
>> I know a little off topic, but anyone else on board have one of these
>> and play with it???    Imagine all the
>> obstacles that could be easily overcome with a tool such as this : )
>>
>> 73 fer now
>> Bill  KE9XQ
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 14:56:43 2015
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:56:43 -0500
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
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Hi Brian,

I'm pleased to see that you are NOT going to give up on the HBR.

73,

Bill  KU8H

On 02/17/2015 01:51 PM, Brian Burns wrote:
> Hello Bill,
>
> ~ Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : ) Weren't
> you saving the parts for one???
>
> Yes, and I still am, but the pesky little business of making a living keeps
> getting in the way. Also, since my teaching business went into the tank
> along with the economy, I'm trying to do it by actually making guitars---a
> tough row to hoe.
>
> Yes, I am in parts-collecting mode, and thanks to the generosity of the
> members of the HBR list, I doing quite well at that. First priority for me
> is to get setup with a place to work, and with adequate test equipment.
>
> I spent my entire junior year in high school building a Byron Goodman double
> conversion band imaging design. That was in Redwood City, CA 1955-56, at
> Sequoia High School, which offered radio shop. I could never get it to work
> because the shop teacher was ignorant of superhets, and there was no test
> equipment outside of VOM's. I'm determined not to let that happen again.
>
> So far I have built a nice test bench from an old solid core door, with
> shelving above and below. I just got it wired for power this weekend.
>
> I've acquired a signal generator from Ian, and a scope from a guitar making
> student of mine, plus an Eico regulated power supply. Then there is the AADE
> L//C meter, a grid dipper, and a couple of VOM's. I've got a tube tester,
> and a beautiful old Hickok 209A VTVM that need to be restored.
>
> Though I am in excellent health for a 75 year old, I don't have the stamina
> I had as a younger man. When I take a break to rest I read articles on
> receivers, mostly downloaded from the QST archives from back in the day.
>
> One of the popular notions back then was the idea of attenuating strong
> adjacent channel signals in the front end, before they got amplified by an
> RF or IF stage, and before they could cause the usual havoc. I keep looking
> at the front end regenerative stages in the HBR series, and wondering how
> easily they might be overloaded.
>
> So, I'm likely to make only one communications receiver, and given that I am
> the slow, meticulous type, it's likely to be a several years long project.
> There are a lot of things to like about the HBR series, not the least of
> which is people on the HBR list like yourself that are willing to help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
>


From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Tue Feb 17 14:59:05 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (n7gtb via HBR)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:59:05 -0800
Subject: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
Message-ID: <8f4d4t0tml99xi208e3c7i79.1424203145052@email.android.com>

You mean the coil winder? ?I built my own, from the book by David Gingery back when he was still alive and pick'n (his banjo). ?It works pretty well. ?Now that i have a few machine tools, it would be a kick to build one using gears rather than friction wheels...

73,
N7GTB - Vern


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S? III mini, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net> </div><div>Date:02/17/2015  10:37  (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net> </div><div>Subject: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder </div><div>
</div>I guess I want one : )
Bought the book years ago,
have a few of the parts cut and
such, but put it away for a ?rainy?
day project?

I know a little off topic, but anyone
else on board have one of these
and play with it???    Imagine all the 
obstacles that could be easily overcome
with a tool such as this : )

73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ

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From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 16:11:14 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:11:14 -0800
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
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Hello Bill,

I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I'm giving up on the HBR. It's still
very much in the works. But I am thinking about ways to increase front-end
protection against strong adjacent signals---tuneable bandpass filter
anyone?  

I said that I was likely to build only one communications receiver, but
since I'm in such (certified) good health at age 75, I'm likely to last long
enough build several. 

I attribute my good health largely to the low-carbohydrate diet. My "other
hobby" is promoting the low carb-diet, as it's the closest thing to a
cure-all that we are ever likely to come across. It cured my severe case of
type 2 diabetes in 5 months, without any medication. 

I've been on the low-carb diet for 14 years, and during that time research
has shown that the enormous increase in carbohydrate consumption in the last
100 or so years is the root cause of just about everything that kills us as
we get older. I would be happy to send info and links to anyone interested.

Cheers,

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: HBR [mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Cromwell
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:57 AM
To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [HBR] overloading the HBR

Hi Brian,

I'm pleased to see that you are NOT going to give up on the HBR.

73,

Bill  KU8H

On 02/17/2015 01:51 PM, Brian Burns wrote:
> Hello Bill,
>
> ~ Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : ) 
> Weren't you saving the parts for one???
>
> Yes, and I still am, but the pesky little business of making a living 
> keeps getting in the way. Also, since my teaching business went into 
> the tank along with the economy, I'm trying to do it by actually 
> making guitars---a tough row to hoe.
>
> Yes, I am in parts-collecting mode, and thanks to the generosity of 
> the members of the HBR list, I doing quite well at that. First 
> priority for me is to get setup with a place to work, and with adequate
test equipment.
>
> I spent my entire junior year in high school building a Byron Goodman 
> double conversion band imaging design. That was in Redwood City, CA 
> 1955-56, at Sequoia High School, which offered radio shop. I could 
> never get it to work because the shop teacher was ignorant of 
> superhets, and there was no test equipment outside of VOM's. I'm
determined not to let that happen again.
>
> So far I have built a nice test bench from an old solid core door, 
> with shelving above and below. I just got it wired for power this weekend.
>
> I've acquired a signal generator from Ian, and a scope from a guitar 
> making student of mine, plus an Eico regulated power supply. Then 
> there is the AADE L//C meter, a grid dipper, and a couple of VOM's. 
> I've got a tube tester, and a beautiful old Hickok 209A VTVM that need to
be restored.
>
> Though I am in excellent health for a 75 year old, I don't have the 
> stamina I had as a younger man. When I take a break to rest I read 
> articles on receivers, mostly downloaded from the QST archives from back
in the day.
>
> One of the popular notions back then was the idea of attenuating 
> strong adjacent channel signals in the front end, before they got 
> amplified by an RF or IF stage, and before they could cause the usual 
> havoc. I keep looking at the front end regenerative stages in the HBR 
> series, and wondering how easily they might be overloaded.
>
> So, I'm likely to make only one communications receiver, and given 
> that I am the slow, meticulous type, it's likely to be a several years
long project.
> There are a lot of things to like about the HBR series, not the least 
> of which is people on the HBR list like yourself that are willing to help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
>

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From bignick at execpc.com  Tue Feb 17 16:55:38 2015
From: bignick at execpc.com (bignick at execpc.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:55:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HBR] Homebrew Gingery Coil Winder
Message-ID: <54265.174.102.199.116.1424210138.squirrel@webmail.core.com>



Hello all,

I can't remember if I've posted this before ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIOocMoRsYQ

It's a
video of my home brew Gingery cols winder.

I used this winder
to make the inter stage coils in my HBR.

I hope you find it
amusing and/or helpful.

73!

--KC9KEP


From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 16:58:57 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:58:57 -0800
Subject: [HBR] Homebrew Gingery Coil Winder
In-Reply-To: <54265.174.102.199.116.1424210138.squirrel@webmail.core.com>
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Hello Nick,

I've watched it a couple of times, and been fascinated by the process. 

Where do you get your (Litz?) wire?

Cheers,

Brian

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Subject: [HBR] Homebrew Gingery Coil Winder



Hello all,

I can't remember if I've posted this before ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIOocMoRsYQ

It's a
video of my home brew Gingery cols winder.

I used this winder
to make the inter stage coils in my HBR.

I hope you find it
amusing and/or helpful.

73!

--KC9KEP

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From ke9xq at charter.net  Tue Feb 17 17:03:28 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:03:28 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Coil Winder Continued
Message-ID: <DE560B02-4DE6-4873-A3F7-C71B9D405E4F@charter.net>

You gave me the incentive to
complete mine, whilst digging
in the basement for those elusive
goodies, I will keep my eye out for
mine, and see what it needs to
complete it.  I believe I am 30-40%
done, but that?s without looking at 
it for a couple of years now : )
Thanks for that post
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ

From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Tue Feb 17 18:17:20 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Bill Murray via HBR)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:17:20 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Digest, Vol 124, Issue 5
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not directly on topic , but there was a beautiful HBR-12 or 13 on Saturday morning in the Orlando hamfest flea market. It had the Eddystone dial, the metal work was excellent and the seller said it worker very well, and was quite selective. He was the second owner, the guy who he got it from was a w4 who had built 3 of the HBR's, including the HBR-18. He was asking $300 for it, and had coils for 80 and 40. Coulda, shoulda, woulda bought it, but $300 is a lot of walking around money, and I' d like to build my own someday. Reason for selling was that he had intended to redo the front panel to improve cosmetics , but it was a project he just wasn't getting to. Maybe he sold it, maybe it will be there next time, $300 might have been more than the " non converted" would be willing to pay. 

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>   1. overloading the HBR (William Wood)
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>   3. Re: overloading the HBR (Bill Cromwell)
>   4. OK, ya got me with that coil winder (William Wood)
>   5. Re: overloading the HBR (Brian Burns)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:54:47 -0600
> From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net>
> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
> Message-ID: <19A70DC3-CC4B-4C9B-86B8-AEA920A8AFB2 at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> 
> Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
> Weren?t you saving the parts for one???  Anyways, I think the
> strong local can give you problems, according to the book that
> can be a problem.  But you can have several work arounds for this
> one of course cuts down on your sensitivity.  There are other ways
> to work around that problem too, T notch filter and such.
> 1.  Attenuate 
> 2.  Less Regen
> 3.  filters
> I?m sure there are others, like ?not' except-able quiet times : )
> Usually from what I hear, when there is a will, there is a way?
> 
> I?m now on chapter three of THE Book : ), and this has been
> addressed.  There are a couple of other ways to deal with strong
> locals, but I won?t go into that right now : )  Nah, just kidding, but
> most of the time gentlemen?s  agreements can come into play.
> Most hams don?t live in their shack, so they have to shut down 
> once in a while : )
> 
> Back to that filter, it looks as tho it will help overcome your local
> interference,  I do know I don?t plan on taking mine out for field 
> day activities.  I took an older rig out for field day once maybe a
> dozen or more years ago, for the fun of it, and found out rather
> quickly that it was useless : )
> 
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:24:50 -0600
> From: Brian ford via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR 13C performance
> Message-ID: <9F69A1B5-D56B-439C-B31F-1DB7C08D1761 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> The 1970 ARRL handbook has a schematic for a RF regenerative ad on that I am considering. The object is to increase selectivity. 
> 
> Keith 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:12, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Scott,
>> 
>> ~ "The 13C that I have is a fabulous performer."  
>> 
>> Do you ever have a problem with the 13C overloading with strong adjacent
>> signals? My only reservation about the HBR designs is the regenerative front
>> end. My understanding is that regenerative circuits provide excellent
>> sensitivity and selectivity until a strong nearby signal comes on. I would
>> really like to be wrong about this.
>> 
>> Oh yeah, I do have another reservation. An HBR looks like a really big
>> project!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Brian 
>> 
>> 
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> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:36:41 -0500
> From: Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com>
> To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [HBR] overloading the HBR
> Message-ID: <54E38A39.8090707 at gmail.com>
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> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Yeah, Brian said he was going to build one for himself. I even sent him 
> some of the parts. To be fair Brian paid me generously for them but it's 
> disappointing to hear from him that he is having doubts - may not build 
> one after all. He also was asking before that about building a regen to 
> use on the air. In spite of assurances from regular users of regens he 
> was put off by the weak points of regens and decided not to build one. I 
> hope he is not getting cold feet this time. Brian?
> 
> I suspect that we can spend ten thousand dollars (or more) on a radio 
> and would take a short time to discover it's weaknesses. I have a 
> Kenwood R-599 with which I do much of my on-air business - including 
> things like Field Day and the occasional sprint. It's an early effort at 
> an all solid state receiver (1970-ish) and it's main weakness is it's 
> ease of overloading. Sound familiar? When I have it connected to a full 
> size antenna I have 20 dB of attenuation cranked in and I can hear the 
> weak signals *BETTER* than with the attenuation out. Sometimes it's 40 
> db! The attenuator is not required at all when I am using a short bit of 
> wire in place of a real antenna and I still hear a lot of signals!
> 
> I would encourage anybody to build either a regen or something like the 
> HBR and as a matter of fact an SDR. SDR's are the new version of hot rod 
> radios and guess what. They have warts, too. I have most (maybe all) of 
> the parts here to build one of the HBR models but in the meantime I have 
> started being put off by all those vacuum tubes. Just the heater power 
> for a radio like that is more then my entire station consumes when I use 
> the Kenwood with a solid state TX. To me that is the most serious flaw. 
> I know from experience what to do about overloads. Even with that 
> insurmountable flaw I continue a slow march toward having my own HBR.
> 
> In the end, you have to pick one and go for it. When that's done, pick 
> another and go for it. Otherwise none of it will ever get done. Just go 
> ahead and build. Then start using whatever you have built. You'll get a 
> much better idea of what you want to build next and you'll know why. 
> Best of luck to all the builders here.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bill  KU8H
> 
> 
> On 02/17/2015 11:54 AM, William Wood wrote:
>> Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
>> Weren?t you saving the parts for one???  Anyways, I think the
>> strong local can give you problems, according to the book that
>> can be a problem.  But you can have several work arounds for this
>> one of course cuts down on your sensitivity.  There are other ways
>> to work around that problem too, T notch filter and such.
>> 1.  Attenuate
>> 2.  Less Regen
>> 3.  filters
>> I?m sure there are others, like ?not' except-able quiet times : )
>> Usually from what I hear, when there is a will, there is a way?
>> 
>> I?m now on chapter three of THE Book : ), and this has been
>> addressed.  There are a couple of other ways to deal with strong
>> locals, but I won?t go into that right now : )  Nah, just kidding, but
>> most of the time gentlemen?s  agreements can come into play.
>> Most hams don?t live in their shack, so they have to shut down
>> once in a while : )
>> 
>> Back to that filter, it looks as tho it will help overcome your local
>> interference,  I do know I don?t plan on taking mine out for field
>> day activities.  I took an older rig out for field day once maybe a
>> dozen or more years ago, for the fun of it, and found out rather
>> quickly that it was useless : )
>> 
>> 73 fer now
>> Bill  KE9XQ
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:37:48 -0600
> From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net>
> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
> Message-ID: <54BED6D7-345B-469F-9560-B139689C2861 at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> 
> I guess I want one : )
> Bought the book years ago,
> have a few of the parts cut and
> such, but put it away for a ?rainy?
> day project?
> 
> I know a little off topic, but anyone
> else on board have one of these
> and play with it???    Imagine all the 
> obstacles that could be easily overcome
> with a tool such as this : )
> 
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:51:25 -0800
> From: Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com>
> To: "'HBR Receiver List'" <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [HBR] overloading the HBR
> Message-ID:
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>    
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hello Bill,
> 
> ~ Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : ) Weren't
> you saving the parts for one???  
> 
> Yes, and I still am, but the pesky little business of making a living keeps
> getting in the way. Also, since my teaching business went into the tank
> along with the economy, I'm trying to do it by actually making guitars---a
> tough row to hoe. 
> 
> Yes, I am in parts-collecting mode, and thanks to the generosity of the
> members of the HBR list, I doing quite well at that. First priority for me
> is to get setup with a place to work, and with adequate test equipment. 
> 
> I spent my entire junior year in high school building a Byron Goodman double
> conversion band imaging design. That was in Redwood City, CA 1955-56, at
> Sequoia High School, which offered radio shop. I could never get it to work
> because the shop teacher was ignorant of superhets, and there was no test
> equipment outside of VOM's. I'm determined not to let that happen again.
> 
> So far I have built a nice test bench from an old solid core door, with
> shelving above and below. I just got it wired for power this weekend. 
> 
> I've acquired a signal generator from Ian, and a scope from a guitar making
> student of mine, plus an Eico regulated power supply. Then there is the AADE
> L//C meter, a grid dipper, and a couple of VOM's. I've got a tube tester,
> and a beautiful old Hickok 209A VTVM that need to be restored. 
> 
> Though I am in excellent health for a 75 year old, I don't have the stamina
> I had as a younger man. When I take a break to rest I read articles on
> receivers, mostly downloaded from the QST archives from back in the day. 
> 
> One of the popular notions back then was the idea of attenuating strong
> adjacent channel signals in the front end, before they got amplified by an
> RF or IF stage, and before they could cause the usual havoc. I keep looking
> at the front end regenerative stages in the HBR series, and wondering how
> easily they might be overloaded. 
> 
> So, I'm likely to make only one communications receiver, and given that I am
> the slow, meticulous type, it's likely to be a several years long project.
> There are a lot of things to like about the HBR series, not the least of
> which is people on the HBR list like yourself that are willing to help.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brian 
> 
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Tue Feb 17 18:36:35 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:36:35 -0600
Subject: [HBR] HBR Digest, Vol 124, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <4972E333-476F-45A4-AE59-5D7333762B61@aol.com>
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I?ve got more then half that in my parts procurement
I also bid on one a year or two ago, and my highest bid was
$400 and someone bought it out from under me : )  I thought
$400 was a little high myself, but if I had the chance would do 
it again, some of the parts are almost un-obtainum : )

Even if you plan on building your own, taking that one apart
would fill your junk box with most of the exact parts you?d
probably want for your build.  Even tho I do now have most 
of my parts for my build, i would still right out that check?
(I have a stretch account)  : )   No money in there, but the 
rubber check would be covered : )

Just food for thought, my wife would not like it, but she
understands the NNNEEEEEDDD  : )

73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ


On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Bill Murray via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> not directly on topic , but there was a beautiful HBR-12 or 13 on Saturday morning in the Orlando hamfest flea market. It had the Eddystone dial, the metal work was excellent and the seller said it worker very well, and was quite selective. He was the second owner, the guy who he got it from was a w4 who had built 3 of the HBR's, including the HBR-18. He was asking $300 for it, and had coils for 80 and 40. Coulda, shoulda, woulda bought it, but $300 is a lot of walking around money, and I' d like to build my own someday. Reason for selling was that he had intended to redo the front panel to improve cosmetics , but it was a project he just wasn't getting to. Maybe he sold it, maybe it will be there next time, $300 might have been more than the " non converted" would be willing to pay. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:52 PM, hbr-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> 
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>>  1. overloading the HBR (William Wood)
>>  2. Re: HBR 13C performance (Brian ford via HBR)
>>  3. Re: overloading the HBR (Bill Cromwell)
>>  4. OK, ya got me with that coil winder (William Wood)
>>  5. Re: overloading the HBR (Brian Burns)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:54:47 -0600
>> From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net>
>> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
>> Message-ID: <19A70DC3-CC4B-4C9B-86B8-AEA920A8AFB2 at charter.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>> 
>> Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
>> Weren?t you saving the parts for one???  Anyways, I think the
>> strong local can give you problems, according to the book that
>> can be a problem.  But you can have several work arounds for this
>> one of course cuts down on your sensitivity.  There are other ways
>> to work around that problem too, T notch filter and such.
>> 1.  Attenuate 
>> 2.  Less Regen
>> 3.  filters
>> I?m sure there are others, like ?not' except-able quiet times : )
>> Usually from what I hear, when there is a will, there is a way?
>> 
>> I?m now on chapter three of THE Book : ), and this has been
>> addressed.  There are a couple of other ways to deal with strong
>> locals, but I won?t go into that right now : )  Nah, just kidding, but
>> most of the time gentlemen?s  agreements can come into play.
>> Most hams don?t live in their shack, so they have to shut down 
>> once in a while : )
>> 
>> Back to that filter, it looks as tho it will help overcome your local
>> interference,  I do know I don?t plan on taking mine out for field 
>> day activities.  I took an older rig out for field day once maybe a
>> dozen or more years ago, for the fun of it, and found out rather
>> quickly that it was useless : )
>> 
>> 73 fer now
>> Bill  KE9XQ
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:24:50 -0600
>> From: Brian ford via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
>> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR 13C performance
>> Message-ID: <9F69A1B5-D56B-439C-B31F-1DB7C08D1761 at yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> The 1970 ARRL handbook has a schematic for a RF regenerative ad on that I am considering. The object is to increase selectivity. 
>> 
>> Keith 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:12, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Scott,
>>> 
>>> ~ "The 13C that I have is a fabulous performer."  
>>> 
>>> Do you ever have a problem with the 13C overloading with strong adjacent
>>> signals? My only reservation about the HBR designs is the regenerative front
>>> end. My understanding is that regenerative circuits provide excellent
>>> sensitivity and selectivity until a strong nearby signal comes on. I would
>>> really like to be wrong about this.
>>> 
>>> Oh yeah, I do have another reservation. An HBR looks like a really big
>>> project!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Brian 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
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>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:36:41 -0500
>> From: Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com>
>> To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [HBR] overloading the HBR
>> Message-ID: <54E38A39.8090707 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> Yeah, Brian said he was going to build one for himself. I even sent him 
>> some of the parts. To be fair Brian paid me generously for them but it's 
>> disappointing to hear from him that he is having doubts - may not build 
>> one after all. He also was asking before that about building a regen to 
>> use on the air. In spite of assurances from regular users of regens he 
>> was put off by the weak points of regens and decided not to build one. I 
>> hope he is not getting cold feet this time. Brian?
>> 
>> I suspect that we can spend ten thousand dollars (or more) on a radio 
>> and would take a short time to discover it's weaknesses. I have a 
>> Kenwood R-599 with which I do much of my on-air business - including 
>> things like Field Day and the occasional sprint. It's an early effort at 
>> an all solid state receiver (1970-ish) and it's main weakness is it's 
>> ease of overloading. Sound familiar? When I have it connected to a full 
>> size antenna I have 20 dB of attenuation cranked in and I can hear the 
>> weak signals *BETTER* than with the attenuation out. Sometimes it's 40 
>> db! The attenuator is not required at all when I am using a short bit of 
>> wire in place of a real antenna and I still hear a lot of signals!
>> 
>> I would encourage anybody to build either a regen or something like the 
>> HBR and as a matter of fact an SDR. SDR's are the new version of hot rod 
>> radios and guess what. They have warts, too. I have most (maybe all) of 
>> the parts here to build one of the HBR models but in the meantime I have 
>> started being put off by all those vacuum tubes. Just the heater power 
>> for a radio like that is more then my entire station consumes when I use 
>> the Kenwood with a solid state TX. To me that is the most serious flaw. 
>> I know from experience what to do about overloads. Even with that 
>> insurmountable flaw I continue a slow march toward having my own HBR.
>> 
>> In the end, you have to pick one and go for it. When that's done, pick 
>> another and go for it. Otherwise none of it will ever get done. Just go 
>> ahead and build. Then start using whatever you have built. You'll get a 
>> much better idea of what you want to build next and you'll know why. 
>> Best of luck to all the builders here.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Bill  KU8H
>> 
>> 
>> On 02/17/2015 11:54 AM, William Wood wrote:
>>> Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
>>> Weren?t you saving the parts for one???  Anyways, I think the
>>> strong local can give you problems, according to the book that
>>> can be a problem.  But you can have several work arounds for this
>>> one of course cuts down on your sensitivity.  There are other ways
>>> to work around that problem too, T notch filter and such.
>>> 1.  Attenuate
>>> 2.  Less Regen
>>> 3.  filters
>>> I?m sure there are others, like ?not' except-able quiet times : )
>>> Usually from what I hear, when there is a will, there is a way?
>>> 
>>> I?m now on chapter three of THE Book : ), and this has been
>>> addressed.  There are a couple of other ways to deal with strong
>>> locals, but I won?t go into that right now : )  Nah, just kidding, but
>>> most of the time gentlemen?s  agreements can come into play.
>>> Most hams don?t live in their shack, so they have to shut down
>>> once in a while : )
>>> 
>>> Back to that filter, it looks as tho it will help overcome your local
>>> interference,  I do know I don?t plan on taking mine out for field
>>> day activities.  I took an older rig out for field day once maybe a
>>> dozen or more years ago, for the fun of it, and found out rather
>>> quickly that it was useless : )
>>> 
>>> 73 fer now
>>> Bill  KE9XQ
>>> 
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:37:48 -0600
>> From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net>
>> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
>> Message-ID: <54BED6D7-345B-469F-9560-B139689C2861 at charter.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>> 
>> I guess I want one : )
>> Bought the book years ago,
>> have a few of the parts cut and
>> such, but put it away for a ?rainy?
>> day project?
>> 
>> I know a little off topic, but anyone
>> else on board have one of these
>> and play with it???    Imagine all the 
>> obstacles that could be easily overcome
>> with a tool such as this : )
>> 
>> 73 fer now
>> Bill  KE9XQ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:51:25 -0800
>> From: Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'HBR Receiver List'" <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [HBR] overloading the HBR
>> Message-ID:
>>   <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAO9WiXwKTRJMveKqmcXf97/CgAAAEAAAAKnI1kbE5b1Nj7gz5MSgiHwBAAAAAA==@gmail.com>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Hello Bill,
>> 
>> ~ Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : ) Weren't
>> you saving the parts for one???  
>> 
>> Yes, and I still am, but the pesky little business of making a living keeps
>> getting in the way. Also, since my teaching business went into the tank
>> along with the economy, I'm trying to do it by actually making guitars---a
>> tough row to hoe. 
>> 
>> Yes, I am in parts-collecting mode, and thanks to the generosity of the
>> members of the HBR list, I doing quite well at that. First priority for me
>> is to get setup with a place to work, and with adequate test equipment. 
>> 
>> I spent my entire junior year in high school building a Byron Goodman double
>> conversion band imaging design. That was in Redwood City, CA 1955-56, at
>> Sequoia High School, which offered radio shop. I could never get it to work
>> because the shop teacher was ignorant of superhets, and there was no test
>> equipment outside of VOM's. I'm determined not to let that happen again.
>> 
>> So far I have built a nice test bench from an old solid core door, with
>> shelving above and below. I just got it wired for power this weekend. 
>> 
>> I've acquired a signal generator from Ian, and a scope from a guitar making
>> student of mine, plus an Eico regulated power supply. Then there is the AADE
>> L//C meter, a grid dipper, and a couple of VOM's. I've got a tube tester,
>> and a beautiful old Hickok 209A VTVM that need to be restored. 
>> 
>> Though I am in excellent health for a 75 year old, I don't have the stamina
>> I had as a younger man. When I take a break to rest I read articles on
>> receivers, mostly downloaded from the QST archives from back in the day. 
>> 
>> One of the popular notions back then was the idea of attenuating strong
>> adjacent channel signals in the front end, before they got amplified by an
>> RF or IF stage, and before they could cause the usual havoc. I keep looking
>> at the front end regenerative stages in the HBR series, and wondering how
>> easily they might be overloaded. 
>> 
>> So, I'm likely to make only one communications receiver, and given that I am
>> the slow, meticulous type, it's likely to be a several years long project.
>> There are a lot of things to like about the HBR series, not the least of
>> which is people on the HBR list like yourself that are willing to help.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Brian 
>> 
>> 
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From Gcromer at usit.net  Tue Feb 17 22:00:31 2015
From: Gcromer at usit.net (Gerald Cromer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:00:31 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Digest, Vol 124, Issue 5
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I think that $300 would have been a good price if the construction looked
good. I have the HBR-16 and paid a good bit more for it..

Gerald K4NHN
Cayce, SC

-----Original Message-----
From: HBR [mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Murray via
HBR
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:17 PM
To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
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Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Digest, Vol 124, Issue 5

not directly on topic , but there was a beautiful HBR-12 or 13 on Saturday
morning in the Orlando hamfest flea market. It had the Eddystone dial, the
metal work was excellent and the seller said it worker very well, and was
quite selective. He was the second owner, the guy who he got it from was a
w4 who had built 3 of the HBR's, including the HBR-18. He was asking $300
for it, and had coils for 80 and 40. Coulda, shoulda, woulda bought it, but
$300 is a lot of walking around money, and I' d like to build my own
someday. Reason for selling was that he had intended to redo the front panel
to improve cosmetics , but it was a project he just wasn't getting to. Maybe
he sold it, maybe it will be there next time, $300 might have been more than
the " non converted" would be willing to pay. 

Sent from my iPad

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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:54:47 -0600
> From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net>
> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
> Message-ID: <19A70DC3-CC4B-4C9B-86B8-AEA920A8AFB2 at charter.net>
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> 
> Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
> Weren?t you saving the parts for one???  Anyways, I think the
> strong local can give you problems, according to the book that
> can be a problem.  But you can have several work arounds for this
> one of course cuts down on your sensitivity.  There are other ways
> to work around that problem too, T notch filter and such.
> 1.  Attenuate 
> 2.  Less Regen
> 3.  filters
> I?m sure there are others, like ?not' except-able quiet times : )
> Usually from what I hear, when there is a will, there is a way?
> 
> I?m now on chapter three of THE Book : ), and this has been
> addressed.  There are a couple of other ways to deal with strong
> locals, but I won?t go into that right now : )  Nah, just kidding, but
> most of the time gentlemen?s  agreements can come into play.
> Most hams don?t live in their shack, so they have to shut down 
> once in a while : )
> 
> Back to that filter, it looks as tho it will help overcome your local
> interference,  I do know I don?t plan on taking mine out for field 
> day activities.  I took an older rig out for field day once maybe a
> dozen or more years ago, for the fun of it, and found out rather
> quickly that it was useless : )
> 
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:24:50 -0600
> From: Brian ford via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR 13C performance
> Message-ID: <9F69A1B5-D56B-439C-B31F-1DB7C08D1761 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> The 1970 ARRL handbook has a schematic for a RF regenerative ad on that I
am considering. The object is to increase selectivity. 
> 
> Keith 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:12, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Scott,
>> 
>> ~ "The 13C that I have is a fabulous performer."  
>> 
>> Do you ever have a problem with the 13C overloading with strong adjacent
>> signals? My only reservation about the HBR designs is the regenerative
front
>> end. My understanding is that regenerative circuits provide excellent
>> sensitivity and selectivity until a strong nearby signal comes on. I
would
>> really like to be wrong about this.
>> 
>> Oh yeah, I do have another reservation. An HBR looks like a really big
>> project!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Brian 
>> 
>> 
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> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:36:41 -0500
> From: Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com>
> To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [HBR] overloading the HBR
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> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Yeah, Brian said he was going to build one for himself. I even sent him 
> some of the parts. To be fair Brian paid me generously for them but it's 
> disappointing to hear from him that he is having doubts - may not build 
> one after all. He also was asking before that about building a regen to 
> use on the air. In spite of assurances from regular users of regens he 
> was put off by the weak points of regens and decided not to build one. I 
> hope he is not getting cold feet this time. Brian?
> 
> I suspect that we can spend ten thousand dollars (or more) on a radio 
> and would take a short time to discover it's weaknesses. I have a 
> Kenwood R-599 with which I do much of my on-air business - including 
> things like Field Day and the occasional sprint. It's an early effort at 
> an all solid state receiver (1970-ish) and it's main weakness is it's 
> ease of overloading. Sound familiar? When I have it connected to a full 
> size antenna I have 20 dB of attenuation cranked in and I can hear the 
> weak signals *BETTER* than with the attenuation out. Sometimes it's 40 
> db! The attenuator is not required at all when I am using a short bit of 
> wire in place of a real antenna and I still hear a lot of signals!
> 
> I would encourage anybody to build either a regen or something like the 
> HBR and as a matter of fact an SDR. SDR's are the new version of hot rod 
> radios and guess what. They have warts, too. I have most (maybe all) of 
> the parts here to build one of the HBR models but in the meantime I have 
> started being put off by all those vacuum tubes. Just the heater power 
> for a radio like that is more then my entire station consumes when I use 
> the Kenwood with a solid state TX. To me that is the most serious flaw. 
> I know from experience what to do about overloads. Even with that 
> insurmountable flaw I continue a slow march toward having my own HBR.
> 
> In the end, you have to pick one and go for it. When that's done, pick 
> another and go for it. Otherwise none of it will ever get done. Just go 
> ahead and build. Then start using whatever you have built. You'll get a 
> much better idea of what you want to build next and you'll know why. 
> Best of luck to all the builders here.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bill  KU8H
> 
> 
> On 02/17/2015 11:54 AM, William Wood wrote:
>> Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
>> Weren?t you saving the parts for one???  Anyways, I think the
>> strong local can give you problems, according to the book that
>> can be a problem.  But you can have several work arounds for this
>> one of course cuts down on your sensitivity.  There are other ways
>> to work around that problem too, T notch filter and such.
>> 1.  Attenuate
>> 2.  Less Regen
>> 3.  filters
>> I?m sure there are others, like ?not' except-able quiet times : )
>> Usually from what I hear, when there is a will, there is a way?
>> 
>> I?m now on chapter three of THE Book : ), and this has been
>> addressed.  There are a couple of other ways to deal with strong
>> locals, but I won?t go into that right now : )  Nah, just kidding, but
>> most of the time gentlemen?s  agreements can come into play.
>> Most hams don?t live in their shack, so they have to shut down
>> once in a while : )
>> 
>> Back to that filter, it looks as tho it will help overcome your local
>> interference,  I do know I don?t plan on taking mine out for field
>> day activities.  I took an older rig out for field day once maybe a
>> dozen or more years ago, for the fun of it, and found out rather
>> quickly that it was useless : )
>> 
>> 73 fer now
>> Bill  KE9XQ
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:37:48 -0600
> From: William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net>
> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [HBR] OK, ya got me with that coil winder
> Message-ID: <54BED6D7-345B-469F-9560-B139689C2861 at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> 
> I guess I want one : )
> Bought the book years ago,
> have a few of the parts cut and
> such, but put it away for a ?rainy?
> day project?
> 
> I know a little off topic, but anyone
> else on board have one of these
> and play with it???    Imagine all the 
> obstacles that could be easily overcome
> with a tool such as this : )
> 
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:51:25 -0800
> From: Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com>
> To: "'HBR Receiver List'" <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [HBR] overloading the HBR
> Message-ID:
>
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>    
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hello Bill,
> 
> ~ Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : )
Weren't
> you saving the parts for one???  
> 
> Yes, and I still am, but the pesky little business of making a living
keeps
> getting in the way. Also, since my teaching business went into the tank
> along with the economy, I'm trying to do it by actually making guitars---a
> tough row to hoe. 
> 
> Yes, I am in parts-collecting mode, and thanks to the generosity of the
> members of the HBR list, I doing quite well at that. First priority for me
> is to get setup with a place to work, and with adequate test equipment. 
> 
> I spent my entire junior year in high school building a Byron Goodman
double
> conversion band imaging design. That was in Redwood City, CA 1955-56, at
> Sequoia High School, which offered radio shop. I could never get it to
work
> because the shop teacher was ignorant of superhets, and there was no test
> equipment outside of VOM's. I'm determined not to let that happen again.
> 
> So far I have built a nice test bench from an old solid core door, with
> shelving above and below. I just got it wired for power this weekend. 
> 
> I've acquired a signal generator from Ian, and a scope from a guitar
making
> student of mine, plus an Eico regulated power supply. Then there is the
AADE
> L//C meter, a grid dipper, and a couple of VOM's. I've got a tube tester,
> and a beautiful old Hickok 209A VTVM that need to be restored. 
> 
> Though I am in excellent health for a 75 year old, I don't have the
stamina
> I had as a younger man. When I take a break to rest I read articles on
> receivers, mostly downloaded from the QST archives from back in the day. 
> 
> One of the popular notions back then was the idea of attenuating strong
> adjacent channel signals in the front end, before they got amplified by an
> RF or IF stage, and before they could cause the usual havoc. I keep
looking
> at the front end regenerative stages in the HBR series, and wondering how
> easily they might be overloaded. 
> 
> So, I'm likely to make only one communications receiver, and given that I
am
> the slow, meticulous type, it's likely to be a several years long project.
> There are a lot of things to like about the HBR series, not the least of
> which is people on the HBR list like yourself that are willing to help.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brian 
> 
> 
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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Wed Feb 18 21:05:00 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (ejparagi--- via HBR)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:05:00 -0500
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
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Hello Brian,

I have done some reading about the detrimental effects of carbs and would be interested in looking at your info and following the links.
 
73,
Ed
WB9RMA
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com>
To: 'HBR Receiver List' <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tue, Feb 17, 2015 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: [HBR] overloading the HBR


Hello Bill,

I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I'm giving up on the HBR. It's still
very much in the works. But I am thinking about ways to increase front-end
protection against strong adjacent signals---tuneable bandpass filter
anyone?  

I said that I was likely to build only one communications receiver, but
since I'm in such (certified) good health at age 75, I'm likely to last long
enough build several. 

I attribute my good health largely to the low-carbohydrate diet. My "other
hobby" is promoting the low carb-diet, as it's the closest thing to a
cure-all that we are ever likely to come across. It cured my severe case of
type 2 diabetes in 5 months, without any medication. 

I've been on the low-carb diet for 14 years, and during that time research
has shown that the enormous increase in carbohydrate consumption in the last
100 or so years is the root cause of just about everything that kills us as
we get older. I would be happy to send info and links to anyone interested.

Cheers,

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: HBR [mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Cromwell
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:57 AM
To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [HBR] overloading the HBR

Hi Brian,

I'm pleased to see that you are NOT going to give up on the HBR.

73,

Bill  KU8H

On 02/17/2015 01:51 PM, Brian Burns wrote:
> Hello Bill,
>
> ~ Hey Brian, I thought you were going to build one yourself???  : ) 
> Weren't you saving the parts for one???
>
> Yes, and I still am, but the pesky little business of making a living 
> keeps getting in the way. Also, since my teaching business went into 
> the tank along with the economy, I'm trying to do it by actually 
> making guitars---a tough row to hoe.
>
> Yes, I am in parts-collecting mode, and thanks to the generosity of 
> the members of the HBR list, I doing quite well at that. First 
> priority for me is to get setup with a place to work, and with adequate
test equipment.
>
> I spent my entire junior year in high school building a Byron Goodman 
> double conversion band imaging design. That was in Redwood City, CA 
> 1955-56, at Sequoia High School, which offered radio shop. I could 
> never get it to work because the shop teacher was ignorant of 
> superhets, and there was no test equipment outside of VOM's. I'm
determined not to let that happen again.
>
> So far I have built a nice test bench from an old solid core door, 
> with shelving above and below. I just got it wired for power this weekend.
>
> I've acquired a signal generator from Ian, and a scope from a guitar 
> making student of mine, plus an Eico regulated power supply. Then 
> there is the AADE L//C meter, a grid dipper, and a couple of VOM's. 
> I've got a tube tester, and a beautiful old Hickok 209A VTVM that need to
be restored.
>
> Though I am in excellent health for a 75 year old, I don't have the 
> stamina I had as a younger man. When I take a break to rest I read 
> articles on receivers, mostly downloaded from the QST archives from back
in the day.
>
> One of the popular notions back then was the idea of attenuating 
> strong adjacent channel signals in the front end, before they got 
> amplified by an RF or IF stage, and before they could cause the usual 
> havoc. I keep looking at the front end regenerative stages in the HBR 
> series, and wondering how easily they might be overloaded.
>
> So, I'm likely to make only one communications receiver, and given 
> that I am the slow, meticulous type, it's likely to be a several years
long project.
> There are a lot of things to like about the HBR series, not the least 
> of which is people on the HBR list like yourself that are willing to help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
>

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From radio at daileyservices.com  Wed Feb 18 21:24:10 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (radio at daileyservices.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:24:10 -0700
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
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Uhhh guys, lets' keep it to radio, okay?


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From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 21:17:01 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 18:17:01 -0800
Subject: [HBR] overloading the HBR
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Hello Ed,

~ I have done some reading about the detrimental effects of carbs and would
be interested in looking at your info and following the links.
 
73,
Ed
WB9RMA

Send me your email address, so that I can attach things. I'm at:

brian at lessonsinlutherie dot com

Cheers,

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From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 20:29:03 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:29:03 -0800
Subject: [HBR] My "75S-3W"
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References: <CAEz8jcRDLh79bSXOeTY4wugZt1+hd-K9DjuwrfnMhmFLVoZGgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEz8jcTUnLocWcvavoAyEhLNc5ziO102r_p7dkLwWenD=a3QYg@mail.gmail.com>

Every so often I am inspired to put more time into this receiver.
A few months ago I lashed up a Si5351A to take the place of a
mythical bank of crystals that go with a dual-conversion design.
Since I needed a PIC to control the LO device, I added an LCD
and frequency counter - no longer any need to keep doing IF
math to work out the receiving frequency.

For the first time I got to try things out on something other than
40m. Bad news - lots of noise but no discernible signals on 20m.
Played around with the front end some more but then put the
beast back on its shelf.

This week I tried a different preselector and tamed down the RF
amp stage more. No real progress.

Then I tried using LO injection on the low side (11.103 MHz)
instead of high side (17.247 MHz) (my first IF is centered on
3.072MHz). This made a noticeable difference; I was able to
find a couple of SSB QSOs on a not very lively band.

The reason: I have a triode mixer stage (6DJ8 Pullen-sort-of).
There is a common cathode resistor of 3.3k. I had stupidly used
a high wattage wire wound resistor there. I am guessing that it
was starting to look like a short at 17MHz. Anyway, I bypassed
the 3.3k to ground, added a 330 ohm carbon resistor (plenty to
develop the RF from the cathode follower). Now I have signals
with high side injection also.

Another 5 years work on this radio and it should be ready for use :)

73, ian K3IMW


On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Though I would write up the results of my attempt to build a dual
> conversion
> receiver modelled on the Collins 75S-3C architecture. I chose this because
> it allows me to use the 1.3-3MHz PTO that is working beautifully, and
> because
> it uses a BPF to provide 0.2MHz of 1st IF bandwidth without requiring
> tricky
> tracking tuning. I have a few 3.05MHz +/-175kHz BPFs here that I picked up
> at some swap meet. These fit the frequency range well enough.
>
> The receiver is working FB right now, thanks to those who helped with
> suggestions about getting the IF strip working well. At present this is
> just
> a 7MHz receiver but I plan to add a synthetic box-o-crystals using the
> Si507.
> The only problem at the moment is a large birdie. This may be because I
> don't
> have a crystal of the proper Collins frequency. The lineup is:
>
>   - 6EJ7 RF stage
>   - 6U8A xtal oscillator
>   - 6DJ8 Pullen mixer
>   - 3.075MHz BPF
>   - PTO
>   - 6U8A mixer (triode used as buffer to frequency counter)
>   - Collins 455kHz mechanical filter
>   - 2x 6EH7 IF
>   - 7360 product detector
>   - 12AT7 BFO
>   - G4OEP audio-derived delayed AGC (solid state)
>
> I left space on the IF board for an IF AGC amplifier but the audio-derived
> AGC is working well enough for the moment.
>
> The audio stage, PSU, etc, is all a lash-up at the moment.
>
> The tuning rate of the PTO is 50kHz/turn. I have a National 6:1
> reduction drive
> in front of it, giving 8.3kHz/turn. This seems to be a very good compromise
> and it is easy to tune SSB transmissions.
>
> I have no mechanical skills, so none of the schemes that I considered for
> driving a frequency indicator from the PTO shaft were practical. Since I
> need
> to use a uP to control the Si570 anyway, I may as well add an LCD display
> and frequency counter to display frequency directly (can add in the
> required
> offsets since I know which 200kHz band is being used).
>
> I hope to offset the negative karma accrued from using sand state by using
> a magic eye signal strength indicator. Currently looking at the choices
> available in the boxes-o-tubes here.
>
> Happy Holidays to all!
>
> 73, ian K3IMW
>
>

From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Fri Feb 27 13:59:15 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Lee Craner via HBR)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:59:15 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List
Message-ID: <398a3.7d903633.42221883@aol.com>

Just spotted this listing on the Orange County (CA) Craigs list:
 
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/4906508525.html
 
73
Lee WB6SSW

From ke9xq at charter.net  Fri Feb 27 14:06:33 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:06:33 -0600
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List
In-Reply-To: <398a3.7d903633.42221883@aol.com>
References: <398a3.7d903633.42221883@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B449EF1A-C3AE-4C5C-B578-EDFF453A93FF@charter.net>

Thanks Man
I did ask the gent for it
but have not heard back
from him yet
Anyone else try???
thanks again
73 Bill



On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Lee Craner via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Just spotted this listing on the Orange County (CA) Craigs list:
> 
> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/4906508525.html
> 
> 73
> Lee WB6SSW
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From pbunn at matrixei.com  Fri Feb 27 14:43:44 2015
From: pbunn at matrixei.com (pbunn)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:43:44 +0000
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List
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I have a HBR that I plan on selling,. It is in very good condition. In addition, I have a folder from the original designer and it has the original 8 x 10 photo of the receiver that was in QST.
Also is some correspondence about the radio from the designer.

I will send photos to anyone interested.

Pat Bunn
N4LTA

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Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List

Thanks Man
I did ask the gent for it
but have not heard back
from him yet
Anyone else try???
thanks again
73 Bill



On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Lee Craner via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Just spotted this listing on the Orange County (CA) Craigs list:
> 
> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/4906508525.html
> 
> 73
> Lee WB6SSW
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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Fri Feb 27 21:20:21 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (ejparagi--- via HBR)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:20:21 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List
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Pat,
 
I'm interested.  Do you know which variation it is?

Ed
WB9RMA
 
 
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From: pbunn <pbunn at matrixei.com>
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Sent: Fri, Feb 27, 2015 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List


I have a HBR that I plan on selling,. It is in very good condition. In addition,
I have a folder from the original designer and it has the original 8 x 10 photo
of the receiver that was in QST.
Also is some correspondence about the radio
from the designer.

I will send photos to anyone interested.

Pat
Bunn
N4LTA

-----Original Message-----
From: HBR
[mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of William Wood
Sent: Friday,
February 27, 2015 2:07 PM
To: LeeCraner at aol.com; HBR Receiver List
Subject:
Re: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List

Thanks Man
I did ask the gent for it
but
have not heard back
from him yet
Anyone else try???
thanks again
73
Bill



On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Lee Craner via HBR
<hbr at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Just spotted this listing on the Orange County
(CA) Craigs list:
> 
>
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/4906508525.html
> 
> 73
> Lee
WB6SSW
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Fri Feb 27 22:24:44 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:24:44 -0600
Subject: [HBR] HBR 16
Message-ID: <1008A4F7-33AC-4ADF-A6EC-C23537669EC2@charter.net>

It might get away from me : )
A local fella just asked for it
and is coming out in the
to check it out?

If It falls through, I?m next on the
list. he said he?d call me.

Thanks again for the heads up : )
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ

From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 28 15:33:45 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 12:33:45 -0800
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List
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References: <398a3.7d903633.42221883@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAEz8jcTMgjHYONp6A83uoWGVHbb=Fi+QCq7jab_td7GUy3WxCA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Lee,

Thank you for the tip - I picked up this HBR-16 this morning.
I'll be away traveling for a week but will post something to the
group after I get back.

73, ian


On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Lee Craner via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
wrote:

> Just spotted this listing on the Orange County (CA) Craigs list:
>
> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/4906508525.html
>
> 73
> Lee WB6SSW
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Sat Feb 28 19:03:18 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 18:03:18 -0600
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List
In-Reply-To: <CAEz8jcTMgjHYONp6A83uoWGVHbb=Fi+QCq7jab_td7GUy3WxCA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAEz8jcTMgjHYONp6A83uoWGVHbb=Fi+QCq7jab_td7GUy3WxCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AFDCE0F7-3BCE-4ECE-A5D8-2D95EF0B1F13@charter.net>

So Ian
You are the one that got it???
Am glad for you fella, that sounded 
like a winner for sure : )  Please keep
us in the loop as to your progress or
what you decide to do with her: )
Good find!
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ




On Feb 28, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Lee,
> 
> Thank you for the tip - I picked up this HBR-16 this morning.
> I'll be away traveling for a week but will post something to the
> group after I get back.
> 
> 73, ian
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Lee Craner via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Just spotted this listing on the Orange County (CA) Craigs list:
>> 
>> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/4906508525.html
>> 
>> 73
>> Lee WB6SSW
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From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 28 19:11:18 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 16:11:18 -0800
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 on Craigs List
In-Reply-To: <AFDCE0F7-3BCE-4ECE-A5D8-2D95EF0B1F13@charter.net>
References: <398a3.7d903633.42221883@aol.com>
	<CAEz8jcTMgjHYONp6A83uoWGVHbb=Fi+QCq7jab_td7GUy3WxCA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AFDCE0F7-3BCE-4ECE-A5D8-2D95EF0B1F13@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAEz8jcTz0dB9mOQGEUxco6OjrFP2Zv2wtdd=X_niUzdrXBje+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bill,

Yes - I was the lucky one. I will post some pictures, etc, in a
week or so.

73, ian K3IMW


On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 4:03 PM, William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net> wrote:

> So Ian
> You are the one that got it???
> Am glad for you fella, that sounded
> like a winner for sure : )  Please keep
> us in the loop as to your progress or
> what you decide to do with her: )
> Good find!
> 73 fer now
> Bill  KE9XQ
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Lee,
> >
> > Thank you for the tip - I picked up this HBR-16 this morning.
> > I'll be away traveling for a week but will post something to the
> > group after I get back.
> >
> > 73, ian
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Lee Craner via HBR <
> hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Just spotted this listing on the Orange County (CA) Craigs list:
> >>
> >> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/4906508525.html
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Lee WB6SSW
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