From smithab11 at comcast.net  Sun Apr 12 16:37:00 2015
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:37:00 -0400
Subject: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit
Message-ID: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net>

Had anyone used the "Omni Chassis Kit" from LMB/Heeger?
I've added a link to their site but as of date have not ordered a kit 
from them.
k4che
http://k4che.com/HBR/Chassis%20Construction/Main%20Chassis%20Construction.htm 


From brian at lessonsinlutherie.com  Thu Apr 16 16:45:07 2015
From: brian at lessonsinlutherie.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 13:45:07 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAO9WiXwKTRJMveKqmcXf97/CgAAAEAAAAEJMJH0Wp4VJnq3/EdFsKPkBAAAAAA==@lessonsinlutherie.com>

 

Hello All,

 

It's kinda quiet around the ol' HBR corral this month. Anybody building a
radio?

 

The only news from here is that the HBR-8 that I got through the generosity
of Larry Baker, WB5OFD, turns out to be an HBR-11 on closer examination!

 

Cheers,

 

Brian

 



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From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 16:53:44 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 13:53:44 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAO9WiXwKTRJMveKqmcXf97/CgAAAEAAAAEJMJH0Wp4VJnq3/EdFsKPkBAAAAAA==@lessonsinlutherie.com>
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Message-ID: <CAEz8jcRd9RWLcgv5cUaqBBchVTMb20z9x_LF7OVrnne1_JZKmg@mail.gmail.com>

I have been looking with some trepidation at a perfect
plug-in coil former that needs some holes and coils
added to it to make a 40m osc plugin.

I am pretending that all I need is a less busy weekend...

73, ian K3IMW

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Brian Burns <brian at lessonsinlutherie.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> It's kinda quiet around the ol' HBR corral this month. Anybody building a
> radio?
>
>
>
> The only news from here is that the HBR-8 that I got through the generosity
> of Larry Baker, WB5OFD, turns out to be an HBR-11 on closer examination!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 17:08:21 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 16:08:21 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet : )
Message-ID: <766C689B-FE4E-4841-831A-79C953DAAD95@charter.net>

Sounds like a good one Brian

I know off topic, but while trying to
dig out my parts horde, I bought an HW 101
and it needed a little work, so a friend of mine
is just about done looking into it for me.  I looked 
and looked and looked for a PS for it.  Needed a 
PS 23b or something similar, and now have one, 
so that one is coming together slow but sure.  
Right now I?m looking for a 6 mH choke, I know
I have one, but in my disarray who knows when
I?ll find it : )

I had a chassis for my 13 C bent up for me a while
back, but because I have not cut any holes in it yet,
am thinking of a modular type of chassis for ease
in seeing and getting at the parts while building?
Have the metal, just debating I guess.  Guessing 
partly because I saw a couple of home made cabinets 
that looked like a million and compared to my older 
painted one makes ya wanna think twice : )

Have most of the parts now and all for the external
ps, want a general purpose ps for other rigs too, so
designed mainly for this and the 101, but will be
adaptable in the end.  Hopefully that is : )  Been running
into road blocks with that one.  One transformer is too low 
in voltage and just right with ma., the next is higher in V 
but lower in ma?   : )  But it will come out in the wash I?m 
sure, just need to burn up a few watts in the form of heat ; )

We had a gent offer a HBR 17 a little while ago, any thing
happen with that one?  Someone buy it?  I might have been
told, but forgot : )

73 everyone
Bill  KE9XQ









From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 17:11:33 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:11:33 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAEz8jcRd9RWLcgv5cUaqBBchVTMb20z9x_LF7OVrnne1_JZKmg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAEz8jcRd9RWLcgv5cUaqBBchVTMb20z9x_LF7OVrnne1_JZKmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMNk5SoYvZVT-vrinWhC1uNfv9tFycuKJfuheN42h9t6knXE1w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ian,

Larry Baker still has, at last word, parts for the standard 1-1/4" 5 pin
coil forms, and said that he would be willing to put together some if
anyone wanted them.

He sent me a sample a couple of years ago, and it's a pristine piece of
work! The last I heard from him he was still gainfully employed, and might
be busy, but you could try him.

Cheers,

Brian

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been looking with some trepidation at a perfect
> plug-in coil former that needs some holes and coils
> added to it to make a 40m osc plugin.
>
> I am pretending that all I need is a less busy weekend...
>
> 73, ian K3IMW
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Brian Burns <brian at lessonsinlutherie.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> >
> >
> > It's kinda quiet around the ol' HBR corral this month. Anybody building a
> > radio?
> >
> >
> >
> > The only news from here is that the HBR-8 that I got through the
> generosity
> > of Larry Baker, WB5OFD, turns out to be an HBR-11 on closer examination!
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 17:17:38 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 16:17:38 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet continued
Message-ID: <01479C61-0ADC-479B-9BB9-EAE73E11D6B1@charter.net>

Forgot to mention
Think I have my IF coil winder now
Ian reminded me.

Bought a Morris that needed a little
work, that coil holding shaft connector
was bent, so a machinist turned me down 
a new one, and he turned me down a new 
adaptor so I can use a smaller threaded rod 
too.  Only cost me $12 so far for the work 
done and I?m modifying a bread board for 
general purpose usage.  Will share a picture 
if I ever get her done ; )
73 
Bill  KE9XQ

From smithab11 at comcast.net  Thu Apr 16 17:40:21 2015
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:40:21 -0400
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet continued
In-Reply-To: <01479C61-0ADC-479B-9BB9-EAE73E11D6B1@charter.net>
References: <01479C61-0ADC-479B-9BB9-EAE73E11D6B1@charter.net>
Message-ID: <55302C45.90304@comcast.net>

The Morris is a great winder for multi turn coils  that require a large 
number of windings such as 800-900 turns for a typical IF or oscillator  
coil.
Different cam shaft drivers for the Morris  can be made out of 1/4 inch 
couplings soldered onto "fender" washers, the large fender washers can 
be easily shaped with a file.  I use watered down Elmers white glue to 
help the windings stick.  Double stick tape helps hold down the initial 
windings.
I've been looking into finding a source of gears with a ratio of 42-44 
for a homebrew gear driven winder copied after the Morris drive system.
breck k4che
http://k4che.com/Tempvideo/Morrisosc.mp4





On 4/16/2015 5:17 PM, William Wood wrote:
> Forgot to mention
> Think I have my IF coil winder now
> Ian reminded me.
>
> Bought a Morris that needed a little
> work, that coil holding shaft connector
> was bent, so a machinist turned me down
> a new one, and he turned me down a new
> adaptor so I can use a smaller threaded rod
> too.  Only cost me $12 so far for the work
> done and I?m modifying a bread board for
> general purpose usage.  Will share a picture
> if I ever get her done ; )
> 73
> Bill  KE9XQ
> ______________________________________________________________
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From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 18:03:54 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:03:54 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAMNk5SoYvZVT-vrinWhC1uNfv9tFycuKJfuheN42h9t6knXE1w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAEz8jcRd9RWLcgv5cUaqBBchVTMb20z9x_LF7OVrnne1_JZKmg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAEz8jcTQMX38xnPX0FjGoZU=G+iNCYivPBiz_y2qS8ND4_65UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Brian,

I have some gorgeous coil forms w/pins. They are so nice that
I am reluctant to make the required holes needed for coil winding!

73, ian K3IMW


On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Ian,
>
> Larry Baker still has, at last word, parts for the standard 1-1/4" 5 pin
> coil forms, and said that he would be willing to put together some if
> anyone wanted them.
>
> He sent me a sample a couple of years ago, and it's a pristine piece of
> work! The last I heard from him he was still gainfully employed, and might
> be busy, but you could try him.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have been looking with some trepidation at a perfect
> > plug-in coil former that needs some holes and coils
> > added to it to make a 40m osc plugin.
> >
> > I am pretending that all I need is a less busy weekend...
> >
> > 73, ian K3IMW
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Brian Burns <
> brian at lessonsinlutherie.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's kinda quiet around the ol' HBR corral this month. Anybody
> building a
> > > radio?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The only news from here is that the HBR-8 that I got through the
> > generosity
> > > of Larry Baker, WB5OFD, turns out to be an HBR-11 on closer
> examination!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
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From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 18:37:06 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:37:06 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet continued
In-Reply-To: <55302C45.90304@comcast.net>
References: <01479C61-0ADC-479B-9BB9-EAE73E11D6B1@charter.net>
	<55302C45.90304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAMNk5Srw=hCEFV6Vb6d8FR4a8EUxZK3+yF6MBZua8+MwQfgJeg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Breck,

I have a Morris, and the 39, 42 and 44 gears. If it would be any help to
have originals for copying, I can send them to you. I'm missing the 40, and
would be happy to find a source for that one.

Cheers,

Brian

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:40 PM, B. Smith <smithab11 at comcast.net> wrote:

> The Morris is a great winder for multi turn coils  that require a large
> number of windings such as 800-900 turns for a typical IF or oscillator
> coil.
> Different cam shaft drivers for the Morris  can be made out of 1/4 inch
> couplings soldered onto "fender" washers, the large fender washers can be
> easily shaped with a file.  I use watered down Elmers white glue to help
> the windings stick.  Double stick tape helps hold down the initial windings.
> I've been looking into finding a source of gears with a ratio of 42-44 for
> a homebrew gear driven winder copied after the Morris drive system.
> breck k4che
> http://k4che.com/Tempvideo/Morrisosc.mp4
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/16/2015 5:17 PM, William Wood wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention
>> Think I have my IF coil winder now
>> Ian reminded me.
>>
>> Bought a Morris that needed a little
>> work, that coil holding shaft connector
>> was bent, so a machinist turned me down
>> a new one, and he turned me down a new
>> adaptor so I can use a smaller threaded rod
>> too.  Only cost me $12 so far for the work
>> done and I?m modifying a bread board for
>> general purpose usage.  Will share a picture
>> if I ever get her done ; )
>> 73
>> Bill  KE9XQ
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> HBR mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:HBR at mailman.qth.net
>>
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>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>
>>
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From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 18:39:25 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:39:25 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet
In-Reply-To: <CAEz8jcTQMX38xnPX0FjGoZU=G+iNCYivPBiz_y2qS8ND4_65UQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Ian,

I just thought that if you knew that you could get some more, it might
reduce the trepidation level.

Cheers,

Brian

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> I have some gorgeous coil forms w/pins. They are so nice that
> I am reluctant to make the required holes needed for coil winding!
>
> 73, ian K3IMW
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Ian,
> >
> > Larry Baker still has, at last word, parts for the standard 1-1/4" 5 pin
> > coil forms, and said that he would be willing to put together some if
> > anyone wanted them.
> >
> > He sent me a sample a couple of years ago, and it's a pristine piece of
> > work! The last I heard from him he was still gainfully employed, and
> might
> > be busy, but you could try him.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have been looking with some trepidation at a perfect
> > > plug-in coil former that needs some holes and coils
> > > added to it to make a 40m osc plugin.
> > >
> > > I am pretending that all I need is a less busy weekend...
> > >
> > > 73, ian K3IMW
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Brian Burns <
> > brian at lessonsinlutherie.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's kinda quiet around the ol' HBR corral this month. Anybody
> > building a
> > > > radio?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The only news from here is that the HBR-8 that I got through the
> > > generosity
> > > > of Larry Baker, WB5OFD, turns out to be an HBR-11 on closer
> > examination!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 20:01:58 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:01:58 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet : )
In-Reply-To: <766C689B-FE4E-4841-831A-79C953DAAD95@charter.net>
References: <766C689B-FE4E-4841-831A-79C953DAAD95@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAMNk5SrnOy3AaiROGxQQBfJZJyDiRPo2m+QP5n_F2fVFCFHJUg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Bill,

Ian bought an HBR-16 shortly ago from Craig's list. Is that the one you
were thinking of?

Cheers,

Brian

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:08 PM, William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net> wrote:

> Sounds like a good one Brian
>
> I know off topic, but while trying to
> dig out my parts horde, I bought an HW 101
> and it needed a little work, so a friend of mine
> is just about done looking into it for me.  I looked
> and looked and looked for a PS for it.  Needed a
> PS 23b or something similar, and now have one,
> so that one is coming together slow but sure.
> Right now I?m looking for a 6 mH choke, I know
> I have one, but in my disarray who knows when
> I?ll find it : )
>
> I had a chassis for my 13 C bent up for me a while
> back, but because I have not cut any holes in it yet,
> am thinking of a modular type of chassis for ease
> in seeing and getting at the parts while building?
> Have the metal, just debating I guess.  Guessing
> partly because I saw a couple of home made cabinets
> that looked like a million and compared to my older
> painted one makes ya wanna think twice : )
>
> Have most of the parts now and all for the external
> ps, want a general purpose ps for other rigs too, so
> designed mainly for this and the 101, but will be
> adaptable in the end.  Hopefully that is : )  Been running
> into road blocks with that one.  One transformer is too low
> in voltage and just right with ma., the next is higher in V
> but lower in ma?   : )  But it will come out in the wash I?m
> sure, just need to burn up a few watts in the form of heat ; )
>
> We had a gent offer a HBR 17 a little while ago, any thing
> happen with that one?  Someone buy it?  I might have been
> told, but forgot : )
>
> 73 everyone
> Bill  KE9XQ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From smithab11 at comcast.net  Thu Apr 16 20:41:35 2015
From: smithab11 at comcast.net (B. Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:41:35 -0400
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet continued
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Hi Brian
I have the gears but am attemping to get copies made of the gears for 
home brew builders.
thanks
breck

On 4/16/2015 6:37 PM, Brian Burns wrote:
> Hello Breck,
>
> I have a Morris, and the 39, 42 and 44 gears. If it would be any help to
> have originals for copying, I can send them to you. I'm missing the 40, and
> would be happy to find a source for that one.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:40 PM, B. Smith <smithab11 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> The Morris is a great winder for multi turn coils  that require a large
>> number of windings such as 800-900 turns for a typical IF or oscillator
>> coil.
>> Different cam shaft drivers for the Morris  can be made out of 1/4 inch
>> couplings soldered onto "fender" washers, the large fender washers can be
>> easily shaped with a file.  I use watered down Elmers white glue to help
>> the windings stick.  Double stick tape helps hold down the initial windings.
>> I've been looking into finding a source of gears with a ratio of 42-44 for
>> a homebrew gear driven winder copied after the Morris drive system.
>> breck k4che
>> http://k4che.com/Tempvideo/Morrisosc.mp4
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/16/2015 5:17 PM, William Wood wrote:
>>
>>> Forgot to mention
>>> Think I have my IF coil winder now
>>> Ian reminded me.
>>>
>>> Bought a Morris that needed a little
>>> work, that coil holding shaft connector
>>> was bent, so a machinist turned me down
>>> a new one, and he turned me down a new
>>> adaptor so I can use a smaller threaded rod
>>> too.  Only cost me $12 so far for the work
>>> done and I?m modifying a bread board for
>>> general purpose usage.  Will share a picture
>>> if I ever get her done ; )
>>> 73
>>> Bill  KE9XQ
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 22:16:42 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 19:16:42 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet continued
In-Reply-To: <553056BF.6030006@comcast.net>
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Hello Breck,

Well, if you manage to get some copies made, be sure to let me know! I've
only got the 3/16 cam as well, and it's in rather rough shape. So, if you
decide to do cams too, I'm in the market for them.

Thanks for taking on the project (:->)...

Cheers,

Brian

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:41 PM, B. Smith <smithab11 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Brian
> I have the gears but am attemping to get copies made of the gears for home
> brew builders.
> thanks
> breck
>
>
> On 4/16/2015 6:37 PM, Brian Burns wrote:
>
>> Hello Breck,
>>
>> I have a Morris, and the 39, 42 and 44 gears. If it would be any help to
>> have originals for copying, I can send them to you. I'm missing the 40,
>> and
>> would be happy to find a source for that one.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:40 PM, B. Smith <smithab11 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  The Morris is a great winder for multi turn coils  that require a large
>>> number of windings such as 800-900 turns for a typical IF or oscillator
>>> coil.
>>> Different cam shaft drivers for the Morris  can be made out of 1/4 inch
>>> couplings soldered onto "fender" washers, the large fender washers can be
>>> easily shaped with a file.  I use watered down Elmers white glue to help
>>> the windings stick.  Double stick tape helps hold down the initial
>>> windings.
>>> I've been looking into finding a source of gears with a ratio of 42-44
>>> for
>>> a homebrew gear driven winder copied after the Morris drive system.
>>> breck k4che
>>> http://k4che.com/Tempvideo/Morrisosc.mp4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/16/2015 5:17 PM, William Wood wrote:
>>>
>>>  Forgot to mention
>>>> Think I have my IF coil winder now
>>>> Ian reminded me.
>>>>
>>>> Bought a Morris that needed a little
>>>> work, that coil holding shaft connector
>>>> was bent, so a machinist turned me down
>>>> a new one, and he turned me down a new
>>>> adaptor so I can use a smaller threaded rod
>>>> too.  Only cost me $12 so far for the work
>>>> done and I?m modifying a bread board for
>>>> general purpose usage.  Will share a picture
>>>> if I ever get her done ; )
>>>> 73
>>>> Bill  KE9XQ
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From luv.myipad3 at me.com  Thu Apr 16 22:54:41 2015
From: luv.myipad3 at me.com (Michael Zolno)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:54:41 -0400
Subject: [HBR] Morris coil winding gears
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3297.1429237008.22967.hbr@mailman.qth.net>
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Oh! Now that would be something quite spectacular, especially for those looking for a set of gears.

Please keep us posted, very interested here. Will they be offered for sale?

All my best,

Mike

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:16 PM, hbr-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian
> I have the gears but am attemping to get copies made of the gears for 
> home brew builders.
> thanks
> breck
> 
>> On 4/16/2015 6:37 PM, Brian Burns wrote:
>> Hello Breck,
>> 
>> I have a Morris, and the 39, 42 and 44 gears. If it would be any help to
>> have originals for copying, I can send them to you. I'm missing the 40, and
>> would be happy to find a source for that one.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:40 PM, B. Smith <smithab11 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Morris is a great winder for multi turn coils  that require a large
>>> number of windings such as 800-900 turns for a typical IF or oscillator
>>> coil.
>>> Different cam shaft drivers for the Morris  can be made out of 1/4 inch
>>> couplings soldered onto "fender" washers, the large fender washers can be
>>> easily shaped with a file.  I use watered down Elmers white glue to help
>>> the windings stick.  Double stick tape helps hold down the initial windings.
>>> I've been looking into finding a source of gears with a ratio of 42-44 for
>>> a homebrew gear driven winder copied after the Morris drive system.
>>> breck k4che
>>> http://k4che.com/Tempvideo/Morrisosc.mp4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On 4/16/2015 5:17 PM, William Wood wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Forgot to mention
>>>> Think I have my IF coil winder now
>>>> Ian reminded me.
>>>> 
>>>> Bought a Morris that needed a little
>>>> work, that coil holding shaft connector
>>>> was bent, so a machinist turned me down
>>>> a new one, and he turned me down a new
>>>> adaptor so I can use a smaller threaded rod
>>>> too.  Only cost me $12 so far for the work
>>>> done and I?m modifying a bread board for
>>>> general purpose usage.  Will share a picture
>>>> if I ever get her done ; )
>>>> 73
>>>> Bill  KE9XQ

From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 23:14:48 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:14:48 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet
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Hi Brian,

You underestimate my skill(?) at demolishing irreplaceable
parts :)

Actually I have studied all the runes and verified that I am
aiming at the correct HBR coils (by measuring the 20m coil
set that I have). I am just procrastinating, really.

73, ian K3IMW


On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Ian,
>
> I just thought that if you knew that you could get some more, it might
> reduce the trepidation level.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Brian,
> >
> > I have some gorgeous coil forms w/pins. They are so nice that
> > I am reluctant to make the required holes needed for coil winding!
> >
> > 73, ian K3IMW
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Ian,
> > >
> > > Larry Baker still has, at last word, parts for the standard 1-1/4" 5
> pin
> > > coil forms, and said that he would be willing to put together some if
> > > anyone wanted them.
> > >
> > > He sent me a sample a couple of years ago, and it's a pristine piece of
> > > work! The last I heard from him he was still gainfully employed, and
> > might
> > > be busy, but you could try him.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have been looking with some trepidation at a perfect
> > > > plug-in coil former that needs some holes and coils
> > > > added to it to make a 40m osc plugin.
> > > >
> > > > I am pretending that all I need is a less busy weekend...
> > > >
> > > > 73, ian K3IMW
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Brian Burns <
> > > brian at lessonsinlutherie.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello All,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's kinda quiet around the ol' HBR corral this month. Anybody
> > > building a
> > > > > radio?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The only news from here is that the HBR-8 that I got through the
> > > > generosity
> > > > > of Larry Baker, WB5OFD, turns out to be an HBR-11 on closer
> > > examination!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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From whitebear1122 at comcast.net  Thu Apr 16 23:41:17 2015
From: whitebear1122 at comcast.net (Whitebear1122)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:41:17 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBRs will be For Sale
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Yeah the HBR list has been pretty quiet for sure.  While I'm working on my own HBR-13, it has slowed down because I'm rev'ing up the next radio sales.   I will be selling a beautiful fully functional HBR-16 with National dial and a boatload of coils, and an HBR-17 with a boatload of coils in a few weeks.  The builder of the HBR-17 corresponded with Alex Stewart on the build.  I would include that correspondence with the sale.  You can search the internet for W0WB HBR-17 and find a video of me using the HBR-17 on 20 meters.  It is a superb example of HBR-17 in spite of it sitting on the floor under the operating desk since 1970.

I am in the process of building an HBR-13 but not "C".  I have the Eddystone  dial on the left side like Ted Crosby envisioned.    I have completed the build of the RF sub chassis but the build of the main chassis has ground to a halt while I deal with this next round of radio sales.   I also have a stunning HBR-13C that I'm using as a reference.  It was built by a master.  I  will be selling that when I complete my HBR-13.  

In the past 8 years I've sold 82% of my radios.  I am selling another 32 radios, accessories, and items, this this round so it takes up all my HBR build time.  

73, Scott WA9WFA


From ke9xq at charter.net  Thu Apr 16 23:49:46 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:49:46 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Kinda quiet : )
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No, a member here on the list
I did not save his emails, but
he offered his 17 to several on
the list.  I?m thinking he did sell his,
but it was a 17?
73
Bill



On Apr 16, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Bill,
> 
> Ian bought an HBR-16 shortly ago from Craig's list. Is that the one you
> were thinking of?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:08 PM, William Wood <ke9xq at charter.net> wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like a good one Brian
>> 
>> I know off topic, but while trying to
>> dig out my parts horde, I bought an HW 101
>> and it needed a little work, so a friend of mine
>> is just about done looking into it for me.  I looked
>> and looked and looked for a PS for it.  Needed a
>> PS 23b or something similar, and now have one,
>> so that one is coming together slow but sure.
>> Right now I?m looking for a 6 mH choke, I know
>> I have one, but in my disarray who knows when
>> I?ll find it : )
>> 
>> I had a chassis for my 13 C bent up for me a while
>> back, but because I have not cut any holes in it yet,
>> am thinking of a modular type of chassis for ease
>> in seeing and getting at the parts while building?
>> Have the metal, just debating I guess.  Guessing
>> partly because I saw a couple of home made cabinets
>> that looked like a million and compared to my older
>> painted one makes ya wanna think twice : )
>> 
>> Have most of the parts now and all for the external
>> ps, want a general purpose ps for other rigs too, so
>> designed mainly for this and the 101, but will be
>> adaptable in the end.  Hopefully that is : )  Been running
>> into road blocks with that one.  One transformer is too low
>> in voltage and just right with ma., the next is higher in V
>> but lower in ma?   : )  But it will come out in the wash I?m
>> sure, just need to burn up a few watts in the form of heat ; )
>> 
>> We had a gent offer a HBR 17 a little while ago, any thing
>> happen with that one?  Someone buy it?  I might have been
>> told, but forgot : )
>> 
>> 73 everyone
>> Bill  KE9XQ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From radio at daileyservices.com  Fri Apr 17 00:37:38 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (Tom Dailey)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:37:38 -0600
Subject: [HBR] The song plays on
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I was given a brace of older QSTs recently (1947- 1960) and there are many 
"HBR notes" published ... very interesting to read them, as the interest 
that Ted began, has NOT slackened.  Good on us.

Tom D - W0EAJ (HBR-11) 


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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Fri Apr 17 16:29:51 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (w4mil via HBR)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:29:51 -0400
Subject: [HBR] Morris Coil Winder FS
Message-ID: <14cc912bf9c-af4-39cac@webprd-m107.mail.aol.com>


 Gentlemen:

I have a Morris Coil Winder (American Made in Council Bluffs Iowa) for sale.  Included are the Original Instructions;  a second set of instructions for an "Improved" Morris coil winder;  The machine itself;  and the original set of cams and gears.  

Cam 1 =  1/8" throw
Cam 2 =  3/16" throw
Cam 3 =  1/4" throw

Gears are 32 pitch with one each 39-teeth; 40-teeth; 42-teeth and 44-teeth.

That's 3 Cams plus 4 gears and the machine with original instructions.  Bonus is an antique document titled "How to make Coils"  by Elmer G. Osterhoudt.

$85 plus shipping from 32137.  CONUS only.  Payment by USPS money order.  I suggest using Priority Mail which is ~ $17 flat rate USA.

Any interests?

73 Chuck  W4MIL
 


  
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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Fri Apr 17 17:00:43 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (w4mil via HBR)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:00:43 -0400
Subject: [HBR] Morris coil winder fs
Message-ID: <14cc92f01bb-af4-39e31@webprd-m107.mail.aol.com>


Thanks, gentlemen, for the responses.  The coil winder is sold pending receipt of funds.
 
Vy 73 de W4MIL
Chuck
 


  
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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Fri Apr 17 22:11:39 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Brian ford via HBR)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:11:39 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Morris Coil Winder FS
In-Reply-To: <14cc912bf9c-af4-39cac@webprd-m107.mail.aol.com>
References: <14cc912bf9c-af4-39cac@webprd-m107.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8FD68658-2628-4494-9592-1FB642881E89@yahoo.com>

I'm sure it's been snapped up, 

Keith

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 17, 2015, at 15:29, w4mil via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Gentlemen:
> 
> I have a Morris Coil Winder (American Made in Council Bluffs Iowa) for sale.  Included are the Original Instructions;  a second set of instructions for an "Improved" Morris coil winder;  The machine itself;  and the original set of cams and gears.  
> 
> Cam 1 =  1/8" throw
> Cam 2 =  3/16" throw
> Cam 3 =  1/4" throw
> 
> Gears are 32 pitch with one each 39-teeth; 40-teeth; 42-teeth and 44-teeth.
> 
> That's 3 Cams plus 4 gears and the machine with original instructions.  Bonus is an antique document titled "How to make Coils"  by Elmer G. Osterhoudt.
> 
> $85 plus shipping from 32137.  CONUS only.  Payment by USPS money order.  I suggest using Priority Mail which is ~ $17 flat rate USA.
> 
> Any interests?
> 
> 73 Chuck  W4MIL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ????? ???? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 13:01:03 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 10:01:03 -0700
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
Message-ID: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to the great work of a list member I have a set
of blank coil forms with 5-pin bases. Actually, I have four -
a very good idea considering my ability to destroy things.

The HBR-16 came with a 20m coil set only. However, this
is a useful reference. The coils agree with the published
info, so I know that the correct tuning cap was used.

After some non-fatal mistakes (calculating the length of
wire required and getting it wrong by a factor of 2, for
example), I have a functional coil. However, the tuned
winding is ugly and misspaced. This appears to be due
to the Cu wire I used being too springy. It has lots of
memory for kinks, etc. I plan to remove the winding and
try rewinding it. However, I am not clear how a 6.5-turn
winding occupying 3/4" can retain even spacing without
some help - and it can't be anchored until the calibration
is done. Hmm.

The coil will tune to 8600kHz (monitored on a nearby
receiver) with the tuning dial set for 7MHz. It's about 10%
off at 7.2MHz. Not a bad start.

I only have two 75pF APCs so won't be winding any 80m
coils. 80m is not a very useful band for me at this QTH
in any case.

Since the radio has an existing tuning scale, I would like
to fit the new coil to the old scale. I realize that this may
be too difficult, though.

73, ian K3IMW

From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 14:40:56 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:40:56 -0700
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
In-Reply-To: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMNk5Srh-xxoD1-PzMEZg_w8AfEFhUhCNYiLVnFSP=048WQgrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ian,

While wasting time this morning looking at back issues of Electric Radio, I
came across a soldering trick for heat sensitive (polystyrene/acrylic) coil
forms. A heat sink made from a water soaked pipe cleaner is wrapped around
the pin before applying heat---another trepidation reducer (;->)...

Cheers,

Brian

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to the great work of a list member I have a set
> of blank coil forms with 5-pin bases. Actually, I have four -
> a very good idea considering my ability to destroy things.
>
> The HBR-16 came with a 20m coil set only. However, this
> is a useful reference. The coils agree with the published
> info, so I know that the correct tuning cap was used.
>
> After some non-fatal mistakes (calculating the length of
> wire required and getting it wrong by a factor of 2, for
> example), I have a functional coil. However, the tuned
> winding is ugly and misspaced. This appears to be due
> to the Cu wire I used being too springy. It has lots of
> memory for kinks, etc. I plan to remove the winding and
> try rewinding it. However, I am not clear how a 6.5-turn
> winding occupying 3/4" can retain even spacing without
> some help - and it can't be anchored until the calibration
> is done. Hmm.
>
> The coil will tune to 8600kHz (monitored on a nearby
> receiver) with the tuning dial set for 7MHz. It's about 10%
> off at 7.2MHz. Not a bad start.
>
> I only have two 75pF APCs so won't be winding any 80m
> coils. 80m is not a very useful band for me at this QTH
> in any case.
>
> Since the radio has an existing tuning scale, I would like
> to fit the new coil to the old scale. I realize that this may
> be too difficult, though.
>
> 73, ian K3IMW
> ______________________________________________________________
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From hbrnut at suddenlink.net  Sun Apr 19 14:54:52 2015
From: hbrnut at suddenlink.net (WA5VGO)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:54:52 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
In-Reply-To: <CAMNk5Srh-xxoD1-PzMEZg_w8AfEFhUhCNYiLVnFSP=048WQgrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMNk5Srh-xxoD1-PzMEZg_w8AfEFhUhCNYiLVnFSP=048WQgrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D96AEDE4-7FF6-4EEB-AA4E-F0FFFBC3E5B2@suddenlink.net>

Soldering polystyrene forms isn't difficult. Remove the plating first. Use some fine emery cloth to polish the bottom of the pin. Then carefully run a drill bit that's slightly larger than the hole through it. The soldering surface should be bright, shiny brass. Now use a soldering iron that has enough power to solder the pin quickly. Too small of an iron is worse than too large. Get the heat on and get if off. The forms don't melt as easy as you might think. 

Darrell


> On Apr 19, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Ian,
> 
> While wasting time this morning looking at back issues of Electric Radio, I
> came across a soldering trick for heat sensitive (polystyrene/acrylic) coil
> forms. A heat sink made from a water soaked pipe cleaner is wrapped around
> the pin before applying heat---another trepidation reducer (;->)...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brian
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks to the great work of a list member I have a set
>> of blank coil forms with 5-pin bases. Actually, I have four -
>> a very good idea considering my ability to destroy things.
>> 
>> The HBR-16 came with a 20m coil set only. However, this
>> is a useful reference. The coils agree with the published
>> info, so I know that the correct tuning cap was used.
>> 
>> After some non-fatal mistakes (calculating the length of
>> wire required and getting it wrong by a factor of 2, for
>> example), I have a functional coil. However, the tuned
>> winding is ugly and misspaced. This appears to be due
>> to the Cu wire I used being too springy. It has lots of
>> memory for kinks, etc. I plan to remove the winding and
>> try rewinding it. However, I am not clear how a 6.5-turn
>> winding occupying 3/4" can retain even spacing without
>> some help - and it can't be anchored until the calibration
>> is done. Hmm.
>> 
>> The coil will tune to 8600kHz (monitored on a nearby
>> receiver) with the tuning dial set for 7MHz. It's about 10%
>> off at 7.2MHz. Not a bad start.
>> 
>> I only have two 75pF APCs so won't be winding any 80m
>> coils. 80m is not a very useful band for me at this QTH
>> in any case.
>> 
>> Since the radio has an existing tuning scale, I would like
>> to fit the new coil to the old scale. I realize that this may
>> be too difficult, though.
>> 
>> 73, ian K3IMW
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> HBR mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:HBR at mailman.qth.net
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From ke9xq at charter.net  Sun Apr 19 15:25:42 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 14:25:42 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
In-Reply-To: <D96AEDE4-7FF6-4EEB-AA4E-F0FFFBC3E5B2@suddenlink.net>
References: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMNk5Srh-xxoD1-PzMEZg_w8AfEFhUhCNYiLVnFSP=048WQgrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<D96AEDE4-7FF6-4EEB-AA4E-F0FFFBC3E5B2@suddenlink.net>
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Greetings and Salutations
Positioning the wires might be a little easier
if you borrowed a few inches of the wife?s craft
double sided tape.  Just a strip down one side,
or two sides of the coil would give just enough
adhesion to keep the coil from slipping around,
yet easily manipulated with a finger nail to it?s
final positioning?  Just a thought : )
73 guys
Bill  KE9XQ



On Apr 19, 2015, at 1:54 PM, WA5VGO <hbrnut at suddenlink.net> wrote:

> Soldering polystyrene forms isn't difficult. Remove the plating first. Use some fine emery cloth to polish the bottom of the pin. Then carefully run a drill bit that's slightly larger than the hole through it. The soldering surface should be bright, shiny brass. Now use a soldering iron that has enough power to solder the pin quickly. Too small of an iron is worse than too large. Get the heat on and get if off. The forms don't melt as easy as you might think. 
> 
> Darrell
> 
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Ian,
>> 
>> While wasting time this morning looking at back issues of Electric Radio, I
>> came across a soldering trick for heat sensitive (polystyrene/acrylic) coil
>> forms. A heat sink made from a water soaked pipe cleaner is wrapped around
>> the pin before applying heat---another trepidation reducer (;->)...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks to the great work of a list member I have a set
>>> of blank coil forms with 5-pin bases. Actually, I have four -
>>> a very good idea considering my ability to destroy things.
>>> 
>>> The HBR-16 came with a 20m coil set only. However, this
>>> is a useful reference. The coils agree with the published
>>> info, so I know that the correct tuning cap was used.
>>> 
>>> After some non-fatal mistakes (calculating the length of
>>> wire required and getting it wrong by a factor of 2, for
>>> example), I have a functional coil. However, the tuned
>>> winding is ugly and misspaced. This appears to be due
>>> to the Cu wire I used being too springy. It has lots of
>>> memory for kinks, etc. I plan to remove the winding and
>>> try rewinding it. However, I am not clear how a 6.5-turn
>>> winding occupying 3/4" can retain even spacing without
>>> some help - and it can't be anchored until the calibration
>>> is done. Hmm.
>>> 
>>> The coil will tune to 8600kHz (monitored on a nearby
>>> receiver) with the tuning dial set for 7MHz. It's about 10%
>>> off at 7.2MHz. Not a bad start.
>>> 
>>> I only have two 75pF APCs so won't be winding any 80m
>>> coils. 80m is not a very useful band for me at this QTH
>>> in any case.
>>> 
>>> Since the radio has an existing tuning scale, I would like
>>> to fit the new coil to the old scale. I realize that this may
>>> be too difficult, though.
>>> 
>>> 73, ian K3IMW
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> HBR mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>> Post: mailto:HBR at mailman.qth.net
>>> 
>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>> 
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From waltah at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 19 15:49:16 2015
From: waltah at earthlink.net (Walt Hutchens)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:49:16 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
In-Reply-To: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <575848291.20150419154916@earthlink.net>

Ian said:

> ... the tuned winding is ugly and misspaced. This appears to be due
> to the Cu wire I used being too springy. It has lots of memory for
> kinks, etc. I plan to remove the winding and try rewinding it.
> However, I am not clear how a 6.5-turn winding occupying 3/4" can
> retain even spacing without some help - and it can't be anchored
> until the calibration is done. Hmm.

First, straighten the wire by sliding it across something like a
toothbrush handle under hand tension and with a bend at the handle.
This will put a uniform 'kink' in the wire, end to end. You'll find
you can get the wire into one long gentle curve and when you rewind
the coil you'll have no problem.

This may sound harder than it really is. Once you try it, it'll be
second nature when winding coils.

Rewind the coil as tightly as you can and with the turns uniformly
spaced since that's the configuration that will take the minimum of
wire and will thus tend to hold its place.

I use narrow strips of masking tape to hold turns when doing an
initial adjustment. When you have it as close as you can get it that
way, use narrow strips of clear nail polish to hold all but one turn.
Let this dry for a couple of days as the drying will significantly
affect calibration.

(The solvent is a dielectric so it increases the distributed
capacitance. Since the nail polish itself is also a dielectric the
final result will also be low in frequency -- but not as much as when
the polish was wet.)

When you think it's dry, try the frequency a couple of times, say
morning and evening: If they're practically the same you're good to
go.

Finally, adjust the one unglued turn and fasten it with JUST DABS of
clear nail polish.

> I would like to fit the new coil to the old scale. I realize that
> this may be too difficult, though.

You should be VERY close if the original builder followed the same
directions you're using for the coil and you have the original tuning
cap. The difference will be due to different distributed capacitance
-- that nail polish, the type of coil form (polystyrene, Bakelite, or
? Since you are restoring a receiver you have the original wiring.

Certainly if the original builder's technique for the 20M coils you
have was okay you should copy it as closely as possible since he
probably did the same on 40.

Hopefully you haven't had to change any caps in the oscillator circuit
since all of them will affect the calibration in ways that can't be
perfectly corrected with the coil trimmer.

I assume you're adjusting the coil inductance at the low end of the
band and the trimmer at the high end. Because there's so much
similarity to the original, you'll probably be very close. To get
(almost) spot on, you'll need a three (rather than just a two) point
fit to the dial scale.

There are many ways to get a three-point fit. The one that's built
into the HBR 11 and 13 circuit (and the others, if I remember
correctly) is the fact that the coil is tapped for the trimmer cap. If
you move that tap and readjust everything for a fit at the same two
points, you'll find the middle of the scale has moved one way or the
other.

That is, the new tuning curve passes through the same low and high
points but is a different shape.

Re-tapping a coil is a nuisance but you can effectively move the tap
by squeezing turns on one side and spreading them on the other. Of
course to do this the turns must not be glued down. Wind tightly and
use a couple of strips of tape. Given the fact that you're not
changing much at all this method may give you enough range to get the
middle right -- or it may not.

When doing a three point fit you have the problem of the two point,
namely that the adjustments interact -- but there are three of
them!

Three point fits are challenge but not beyond any methodical worker.
Do it when you won't be distracted and make notes on your adjustments
and the results. Do the ends, check the middle. Change whatever you're
adjusting to move the middle, then set the ends again and recheck the
middle ...

If you dig through the old literature you'll find mathematical methods
but they are of little practical use because they apply to specific
circuits and things like distributed capacitance and inductance are
unknown.

I've done three point fits -- one was for an HBR-takeoff (different
circuit, same concept, including plug in coils) for which I had a
nicely calibrated Eddystone 898 dial from an unknown receiver. Same
deal for another that was built around major parts of a Heath HR-10
but with plug in coils and a new circuit -- I wanted to keep the dial
calibration.

Even more interesting was the high band on a navy SRR-13 receiver
which was designed as 16-28 Mcs. but due to a last minute spec change
was calibrated as 16-32 Mcs on the dial, just by adjusting the coil
and parallel trimmer. Needless to say the middle of the band was off
by a bunch. The circuit allowed a three point fit by changing a fixed
capacitor and I did that experimentally. RCA ... I was not surprised
when they were early casualties of the radio supplier wars.

It just takes time.  

Walt
KJ4KV


From radio at daileyservices.com  Sun Apr 19 15:56:49 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (Tom Dailey)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:56:49 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
In-Reply-To: <575848291.20150419154916@earthlink.net>
References: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
	<575848291.20150419154916@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <6778879A25EC438583ADE5FCBF4C0760@TomLaptop>

AFTER I wound my coils and AFTER I got things adjusted, I set the coils atop 
a cardboard box, with hole cut, so as to allow the pins to stick in, and 
sprayed them all with a LIGHT coat of clear lacquer - see, that slightly 
melted the surface of the plastic National forms, and "captured" the wire in 
the surface melt - the wiring has NEVER moved, and as an accidental bonus, 
found that the radio's minimal drift, was now essentially ZERO after warmup.

Purists will no doubt sling their wrath at me, but back in 1964, it 
WORKED... and still does.

Tom - W0EAJ 


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From radio at daileyservices.com  Sun Apr 19 16:24:06 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (Tom Dailey)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 14:24:06 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
In-Reply-To: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <633D495D128E490C88BE01ADAAF67ABA@TomLaptop>

Do what Ted Crosby did.. hook the wire to a DOORKNOB, and while keeping a 
tension on the form, roll and walk toward the doorknob - works swell.

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From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 16:45:53 2015
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:45:53 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
In-Reply-To: <633D495D128E490C88BE01ADAAF67ABA@TomLaptop>
References: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
	<633D495D128E490C88BE01ADAAF67ABA@TomLaptop>
Message-ID: <55341401.3030201@gmail.com>

Hi. I have used a door knob but I found it works even better if the 
doorknob is installed on an actual door! <evil grin> I have had the same 
end result when I clamped the end of the wire in my bench vise (which is 
mounted to a bench). Whether bench vice, doorknob, trailer hitch on a 
Chevy or Ford truck give the wire a sharp tug or two. The tug(s) 
relax(es) the "kinks".

73,

Bill  KU8H


On 04/19/2015 04:24 PM, Tom Dailey wrote:
> Do what Ted Crosby did.. hook the wire to a DOORKNOB, and while 
> keeping a tension on the form, roll and walk toward the doorknob - 
> works swell.
>


From radio at daileyservices.com  Sun Apr 19 17:06:36 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (Tom Dailey)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:06:36 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
In-Reply-To: <55341401.3030201@gmail.com>
References: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com><633D495D128E490C88BE01ADAAF67ABA@TomLaptop>
	<55341401.3030201@gmail.com>
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Right on, Bill.  Yes, a well-attached doorknob is always a good OEM device.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bill Cromwell 
Subject: Re: [HBR] 40m osc coil 

Hi. I have used a door knob but I found it works even better if the 
doorknob is installed on an actual door! <evil grin> I have had the same 
end result when I clamped the end of the wire in my bench vise (which is 
mounted to a bench). Whether bench vice, doorknob, trailer hitch on a 
Chevy or Ford truck give the wire a sharp tug or two. The tug(s) 
relax(es) the "kinks".

73,

Bill  KU8H

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From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 21:34:47 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 18:34:47 -0700
Subject: [HBR] 40m osc coil
In-Reply-To: <CF399CA2908E452C9CDD99D327E34CCA@TomLaptop>
References: <CAEz8jcT2KN7-CxpuAXRcsBwH7VOsfCCO=Z4PgaWTp_1mAN0m8w@mail.gmail.com>
	<633D495D128E490C88BE01ADAAF67ABA@TomLaptop>
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Very good. I think I will apply the wire/winding wisdom in this
thread to the antenna and RF coils first. That will give me something
that works on 40m, albeit without very good tracking. After I have
2 more coils under the belt I can return to the more difficult osc
coil.

Lots of useful stuff here - will reread tomorrow. Thanks, everyone.

73, ian K3IMW

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Tom Dailey <radio at daileyservices.com>
wrote:

> Right on, Bill.  Yes, a well-attached doorknob is always a good OEM device.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Cromwell Subject: Re: [HBR] 40m osc
> coil
> Hi. I have used a door knob but I found it works even better if the
> doorknob is installed on an actual door! <evil grin> I have had the same
> end result when I clamped the end of the wire in my bench vise (which is
> mounted to a bench). Whether bench vice, doorknob, trailer hitch on a Chevy
> or Ford truck give the wire a sharp tug or two. The tug(s) relax(es) the
> "kinks".
>
> 73,
>
> Bill  KU8H
>
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From mmarris at notecraft.com  Mon Apr 20 04:28:19 2015
From: mmarris at notecraft.com (Martin Marris)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 04:28:19 -0400
Subject: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit
In-Reply-To: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com>

>>Had anyone used the "Omni Chassis Kit" from LMB/Heeger?<<

 

Yes. Web links to project description and photos are listed below; the Omni
Chassis is pictured in Chapter Two. For best viewing, click on the first
photo then click the Full Screen icon at top right. The only objection I
would have to the otherwise excellent Omni Chassis kits is that the metal is
relatively thin; for an HBR project it might not be stiff enough. IIRC the
thickness is listed on the LMB website, for each size of chassis.

 

Chaper One, "Project Description and Components":
http://tinyurl.com/ktylgzn.

 

Chaper Two, "Metalwork": http://tinyurl.com/khckgdu.

 

Chapter Three, "Improving the Action of the Tuning Dial":
http://tinyurl.com/lrpkoya.

 

Chapter Four, "Making the coils": http://tinyurl.com/lotc3ep.

 

Chapter Five, "Wiring the RF Stage": http://tinyurl.com/mubpkwk.

 

Chapter Six, "Completion and Testing": http://tinyurl.com/orqta39.

 

Chapter Seven, "Experiments to Improve the Set": http://tinyurl.com/kebfdwn.

 

Chapter Eight, "Building a 'Back Panel' and Improving Multiband
Performance": http://tinyurl.com/q5vcls5.

 

Chapter Nine, "Audio Amplifier, Cabinet and Speaker":
http://tinyurl.com/m4s55su.

 

73 de Martin, KB1WSY

 


From ke9xq at charter.net  Mon Apr 20 10:33:11 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 09:33:11 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )
In-Reply-To: <004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net>
	<004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com>
Message-ID: <A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net>

Hey, I know the subject I?m asking for is OT, but
that is quite the receiver there : )  A LOT of work
went into a three transistor receiver.  Could you give me
a report on it?s abilities???  I?m not thinking of building it,
but would love to hear it works like a charm, or better then
what one would hope for a three transistor receiver : )

Must have been worth something for all the work you put into it : )
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ



On Apr 20, 2015, at 3:28 AM, Martin Marris <mmarris at notecraft.com> wrote:

>>> Had anyone used the "Omni Chassis Kit" from LMB/Heeger?<<
> 
> 
> 
> Yes. Web links to project description and photos are listed below; the Omni
> Chassis is pictured in Chapter Two. For best viewing, click on the first
> photo then click the Full Screen icon at top right. The only objection I
> would have to the otherwise excellent Omni Chassis kits is that the metal is
> relatively thin; for an HBR project it might not be stiff enough. IIRC the
> thickness is listed on the LMB website, for each size of chassis.
> 
> 
> 
> Chaper One, "Project Description and Components":
> http://tinyurl.com/ktylgzn.
> 
> 
> 
> Chaper Two, "Metalwork": http://tinyurl.com/khckgdu.
> 
 

From mmarris at notecraft.com  Mon Apr 20 11:01:07 2015
From: mmarris at notecraft.com (Martin Marris)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 11:01:07 -0400
Subject: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )
In-Reply-To: <A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net>	<004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com>
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Message-ID: <009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com>

Hi Bill,

The answer to your question about my primitive receiver is answered at great
length in this thread on eHam:
http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,90273.0.html.

The short answer is that for a receiver that relies on early generation
FETs, and is regenerative to boot, performance is surprisingly good.
Certainly good enough for use in QSOs, or at least I hope so (I'm not on the
air yet). Above all, it is very sensitive. Admittedly, it is as wide as a
barn door but you can't really expect stellar selectivity from a regen.

In the past couple of years I have logged several hundred "SWL" QSOs from
all over the world on 10, 15, 20, 40 and 80m on this little receiver. I
can't wait to use it in a two-way QSO!

In a general sense however, I cannot answer your question. I am a "new ham"
(licensed three years ago but with very little spare time) and this is my
*only* receiver: I have not been "spoiled" by a more elaborate superhet or
by commercial gear. My goal is to get on the air with an entirely homebrew
station, vintage 1968. (I have also built the companion three-tube
transmitter and my project is described here:
http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,97719.0.html).

The biggest puzzle with the receiver was that, if you built it exactly as
described in the ARRL project, it worked well on 80m and 40m but was a bust
on the other bands (it either failed to oscillate; or when it did, it
"motorboarded" and overloaded badly enough to be unusable).

This was eventually fixed by varying the value of C9, band by band. I don't
really understand why the original design allegedly worked fine. My exact
copy of it did not -- but regen receivers are tricky.

I am so pleased with this little receiver that I have (possibly
over-ambitious) plans to build a second one, with the same circuit but using
slightly larger, 6-prong Amphenol coil forms (instead of the 1", 5-prong
Millen ones in the original). This would allow me to wire C9 inside the coil
form itself and eliminate some awkward fiddling around every time the band
is changed. As of now, I'm using the receiver pretty much as a monoband 40m
set and plan to hang out on that band exclusively for the first few months
after I get on the air this summer.

For what it's worth, I get the impression that with receivers, it's the care
taken in construction and the quality of the components that accounst for at
least 50 percent of the results. A very simple regenerative set probably
outperforms a multi-tube superhet that's just been thrown together.

73 de Martin, KB1WSY


-----Original Message-----
From: HBR [mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of William Wood
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 10:33
To: HBR Receiver List
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )

Hey, I know the subject I'm asking for is OT, but that is quite the receiver
there : )  A LOT of work went into a three transistor receiver.  Could you
give me a report on it's abilities???  I'm not thinking of building it, but
would love to hear it works like a charm, or better then what one would hope
for a three transistor receiver : )

Must have been worth something for all the work you put into it : )
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ



On Apr 20, 2015, at 3:28 AM, Martin Marris <mmarris at notecraft.com> wrote:

>>> Had anyone used the "Omni Chassis Kit" from LMB/Heeger?<<
> 
> 
> 
> Yes. Web links to project description and photos are listed below; the 
> Omni Chassis is pictured in Chapter Two. For best viewing, click on 
> the first photo then click the Full Screen icon at top right. The only 
> objection I would have to the otherwise excellent Omni Chassis kits is 
> that the metal is relatively thin; for an HBR project it might not be 
> stiff enough. IIRC the thickness is listed on the LMB website, for each
size of chassis.
> 
> 
> 
> Chaper One, "Project Description and Components":
> http://tinyurl.com/ktylgzn.
> 
> 
> 
> Chaper Two, "Metalwork": http://tinyurl.com/khckgdu.
> 
 
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From radio at daileyservices.com  Mon Apr 20 12:13:22 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (Tom Dailey)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:13:22 -0600
Subject: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )
In-Reply-To: <009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net>	<004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com><A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net>
	<009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com>
Message-ID: <8A04E18243124F0EBC9125284C4DA51B@TomLaptop>

Recently, at a hamfest, I purchased a home-brew Wadley Loop receiver, built 
by a fellow (here in Colorado).  With 4 tubes, it's astoundingly sensitive, 
STABLE, and relatively selective.  Considering that some of the RACAL 
high-end receivers (and the National HRO-500) used this scheme, it's pretty 
well proven.  As a friend once put it "The Ancients weren't stupid - they 
were just ancient!"
Tom - W0EAJ 


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From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 12:25:58 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 09:25:58 -0700
Subject: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )
In-Reply-To: <8A04E18243124F0EBC9125284C4DA51B@TomLaptop>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net>
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	<A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net>
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	<8A04E18243124F0EBC9125284C4DA51B@TomLaptop>
Message-ID: <CAEz8jcSUNhU4x87XEWFTycro6q8Vuqo9FD+27=LuENE56YdN-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tom,

Amazing that you could squeeze a Wadley loop into 4 tubes - do
you have a schematic (or block diagram)? Even the tube lineup
would be most interesting!

73, ian K3IMW

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Tom Dailey <radio at daileyservices.com>
wrote:

> Recently, at a hamfest, I purchased a home-brew Wadley Loop receiver,
> built by a fellow (here in Colorado).  With 4 tubes, it's astoundingly
> sensitive, STABLE, and relatively selective.  Considering that some of the
> RACAL high-end receivers (and the National HRO-500) used this scheme, it's
> pretty well proven.  As a friend once put it "The Ancients weren't stupid -
> they were just ancient!"
> Tom - W0EAJ
>
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From radio at daileyservices.com  Mon Apr 20 12:29:10 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (Tom Dailey)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:29:10 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
In-Reply-To: <CAEz8jcSUNhU4x87XEWFTycro6q8Vuqo9FD+27=LuENE56YdN-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net><004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com><A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net><009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com><8A04E18243124F0EBC9125284C4DA51B@TomLaptop>
	<CAEz8jcSUNhU4x87XEWFTycro6q8Vuqo9FD+27=LuENE56YdN-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0F2D0ACC3A56428586C1DAF764E9F9EE@TomLaptop>

Yes, I do have the schematic - I'll see if I can get you a copy.  The chap 
was named "Horst" - grew up in wartime Germany, and the construction is 
beautiful, much like many of the HBRs that are on the website.  (My HBR-11 
ain't NEARLY as pretty!)

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ian Wilson
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )

Hi Tom,

Amazing that you could squeeze a Wadley loop into 4 tubes - do
you have a schematic (or block diagram)? Even the tube lineup
would be most interesting!



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From mmarris at notecraft.com  Mon Apr 20 12:47:32 2015
From: mmarris at notecraft.com (Martin Marris)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:47:32 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
In-Reply-To: <0F2D0ACC3A56428586C1DAF764E9F9EE@TomLaptop>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net><004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com><A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net><009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com><8A04E18243124F0EBC9125284C4DA51B@TomLaptop>	<CAEz8jcSUNhU4x87XEWFTycro6q8Vuqo9FD+27=LuENE56YdN-Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Wadleys are clever. Four tubes only? Wow.

Another set that used the Wadley loop was the Yaesu FRG-7 in the late 1970s.
I still covet those even though they are solid-state!

Martin



From radio at daileyservices.com  Mon Apr 20 12:57:47 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (Tom Dailey)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:57:47 -0600
Subject: [HBR] h/b 4-tube Wadley Loop receiver
In-Reply-To: <00a201d07b89$b2a86220$17f92660$@notecraft.com>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net><004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com><A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net><009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com><8A04E18243124F0EBC9125284C4DA51B@TomLaptop>	<CAEz8jcSUNhU4x87XEWFTycro6q8Vuqo9FD+27=LuENE56YdN-Q@mail.gmail.com><0F2D0ACC3A56428586C1DAF764E9F9EE@TomLaptop>
	<00a201d07b89$b2a86220$17f92660$@notecraft.com>
Message-ID: <DB61C41514C04290BB4FB1C45409AAD5@TomLaptop>

The NAVY had an ECM receiver (WLR-1) that I believe was a W/L as well.  Oh, 
and this one is the "proper" wrinkle black color, replete with a National 
SCN dial.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Martin Marris
Subject: Re: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver

Wadleys are clever. Four tubes only? Wow.

Another set that used the Wadley loop was the Yaesu FRG-7 in the late 1970s.
I still covet those even though they are solid-state!

Martin 


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From waltah at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 13:07:11 2015
From: waltah at earthlink.net (Walt Hutchens)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:07:11 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
In-Reply-To: <0F2D0ACC3A56428586C1DAF764E9F9EE@TomLaptop>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net><004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com><A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net><009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com><8A04E18243124F0EBC9125284C4DA51B@TomLaptop>
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Tom said:

> Amazing that you could squeeze a Wadley loop into 4 tubes - do
> you have a schematic (or block diagram)? Even the tube lineup
> would be most interesting!

And I too would like to see the schematic for a Wadley loop receiver
squeezed down to four tubes. Please?

Walt
KJ4KV


From waltah at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 20 13:14:33 2015
From: waltah at earthlink.net (Walt Hutchens)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:14:33 -0400
Subject: [HBR] h/b 4-tube Wadley Loop receiver
In-Reply-To: <DB61C41514C04290BB4FB1C45409AAD5@TomLaptop>
References: <552AD76C.3010306@comcast.net><004401d07b43$f5613c40$e023b4c0$@notecraft.com><A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net><009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com><8A04E18243124F0EBC9125284C4DA51B@TomLaptop>
	<CAEz8jcSUNhU4x87XEWFTycro6q8Vuqo9FD+27=LuENE56YdN-Q@mail.gmail.com><0F2D0ACC3A56428586C1DAF764E9F9EE@TomLaptop>
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	<DB61C41514C04290BB4FB1C45409AAD5@TomLaptop>
Message-ID: <192328175.20150420131433@earthlink.net>

For those unfamiliar with the Wadley loop idea, there's a good
description here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadley_Loop

Walt
KJ4KV


From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Mon Apr 20 13:47:15 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (ejparagi--- via HBR)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:47:15 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
In-Reply-To: <0F2D0ACC3A56428586C1DAF764E9F9EE@TomLaptop>
Message-ID: <14cd7f0f616-7819-3e5a7@webprd-a85.mail.aol.com>


I would also like to see the schematic.
 
73,
Ed  WB9RMA
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Dailey <radio at daileyservices.com>
To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon, Apr 20, 2015 12:43 pm
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver


Yes, I do have the schematic - I'll see if I can get you a copy.  The chap 
was
named "Horst" - grew up in wartime Germany, and the construction is 
beautiful,
much like many of the HBRs that are on the website.  (My HBR-11 
ain't NEARLY
as pretty!)

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ian Wilson
Subject: Re: [HBR]
HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )

Hi Tom,

Amazing that you could
squeeze a Wadley loop into 4 tubes - do
you have a schematic (or block
diagram)? Even the tube lineup
would be most interesting!



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From w0ep at w0ep.us  Mon Apr 20 14:03:56 2015
From: w0ep at w0ep.us (Chris Howard w0ep)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:03:56 -0500
Subject: [HBR] h/b 4-tube Wadley Loop receiver
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I remember talking to Horst frequently when I lived in northern Colorado.
I think I remember reading an obit. on him.  I've been gone from there
about 5 years now.

Old hams keep disappearing.

Unfortunately, I don't have anything to add of a technical nature.





From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 15:38:42 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:38:42 -0700
Subject: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )
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I took a quick look at the HRO-500. I don't think this is a Wadley loop.
It's double conversion (apart from the LF bands, which upconvert to
26.<something>MHz). The synthesizer looks like a real bear. Would
NOT like to try to restore one of these!

73, ian K3IMW

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Tom Dailey <radio at daileyservices.com>
wrote:

> Recently, at a hamfest, I purchased a home-brew Wadley Loop receiver,
> built by a fellow (here in Colorado).  With 4 tubes, it's astoundingly
> sensitive, STABLE, and relatively selective.  Considering that some of the
> RACAL high-end receivers (and the National HRO-500) used this scheme, it's
> pretty well proven.  As a friend once put it "The Ancients weren't stupid -
> they were just ancient!"
> Tom - W0EAJ
>
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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Mon Apr 20 17:24:12 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Hopperdhh--- via HBR)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:24:12 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
Message-ID: <33569.261c44bd.4266c87c@aol.com>



Please put me on the list for a schematic.
 
Dan K9WEK
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/20/2015 12:43:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
radio at daileyservices.com writes:

Yes, I  do have the schematic - I'll see if I can get you a copy.  The chap 
 
was named "Horst" - grew up in wartime Germany, and the construction is  
beautiful, much like many of the HBRs that are on the website.  (My  HBR-11 
ain't NEARLY as pretty!)

-----Original Message-----  
From: Ian Wilson
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not :  )

Hi Tom,

Amazing that you could squeeze a Wadley loop into 4  tubes - do
you have a schematic (or block diagram)? Even the tube  lineup
would be most interesting!



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From w0ep at w0ep.us  Mon Apr 20 18:08:06 2015
From: w0ep at w0ep.us (Chris Howard w0ep)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:08:06 -0500
Subject: [HBR] h/b 4-tube Wadley Loop receiver
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I asked a friend and he reminded me of the call:
Horst Geipel WA0NUH, if it's the guy I'm thinking of.

On 4/20/2015 1:03 PM, Chris Howard w0ep wrote:
> 
> I remember talking to Horst frequently when I lived in northern Colorado.
> I think I remember reading an obit. on him.  I've been gone from there
> about 5 years now.
> 
> Old hams keep disappearing.
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't have anything to add of a technical nature.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Mon Apr 20 18:20:20 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Ron Barlow via HBR)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:20:20 -0700
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
In-Reply-To: <33569.261c44bd.4266c87c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1429568420.8510.YahooMailBasic@web160106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Please add my address to the Wadley Loop list.
                 73 & tks de ron n4gjv
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 4/20/15, Hopperdhh--- via HBR <hbr at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
 To: hbr at mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, April 20, 2015, 5:24 PM
 
 
 
 Please put me on the list for a schematic.
  
 Dan K9WEK
  
  
  
 In a message dated 4/20/2015 12:43:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight
 Time,? 
 radio at daileyservices.com
 writes:
 
 Yes, I? do have the schematic - I'll see if I can get
 you a copy.? The chap 
  
 was named "Horst" - grew up in wartime Germany, and the
 construction is? 
 beautiful, much like many of the HBRs that are on the
 website.? (My? HBR-11 
 ain't NEARLY as pretty!)
 
 -----Original Message-----? 
 From: Ian Wilson
 Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not :?
 )
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 Amazing that you could squeeze a Wadley loop into 4?
 tubes - do
 you have a schematic (or block diagram)? Even the tube?
 lineup
 would be most interesting!
 
 
 
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From pdulaff at embarqmail.com  Tue Apr 21 07:42:06 2015
From: pdulaff at embarqmail.com (Paul Dulaff)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 07:42:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
In-Reply-To: <0F2D0ACC3A56428586C1DAF764E9F9EE@TomLaptop>
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Tom

Please add me to the growing list of folks to send the Wadley Loop schematic to.

Hopefully a PDF and this isn't too much trouble.

Thanks

Paul - WB2NMI

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Dailey <radio at daileyservices.com>
To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:29:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver

Yes, I do have the schematic - I'll see if I can get you a copy.  The chap 
was named "Horst" - grew up in wartime Germany, and the construction is 
beautiful, much like many of the HBRs that are on the website.  (My HBR-11 
ain't NEARLY as pretty!)

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ian Wilson
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )

Hi Tom,

Amazing that you could squeeze a Wadley loop into 4 tubes - do
you have a schematic (or block diagram)? Even the tube lineup
would be most interesting!



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From john_wilkinson3 at sky.com  Tue Apr 21 07:49:31 2015
From: john_wilkinson3 at sky.com (john_wilkinson3 at sky.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:49:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [HBR] h/b 4-tube Wadley Loop receiver
Message-ID: <266814069.1689261.1429616971460.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Please put me on the list for a copy of the schematic.

From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 09:22:13 2015
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 09:22:13 -0400
Subject: [HBR] h/b 4-tube Wadley Loop receiver
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Hi,

I thought it turned out there won't be a schematic or manual. If I have 
that wrong I would like to see it too. I have four tubes. And four more. 
And four more after that. Etc.

73,

Bill  KU8H



From ke9xq at charter.net  Tue Apr 21 10:13:15 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 09:13:15 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
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Maybe post a link to the group ???
Or send me a copy too???
Would love it, I kind of collect schematics
and building articles.
Thanks for the oT discussion,
a good one fer sure
73 fer now
Bill  KE9XQ



On Apr 21, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Paul Dulaff <pdulaff at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Tom
> 
> Please add me to the growing list of folks to send the Wadley Loop schematic to.
> 
> Hopefully a PDF and this isn't too much trouble.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Paul - WB2NMI
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Dailey <radio at daileyservices.com>
> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:29:10 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
> 
> Yes, I do have the schematic - I'll see if I can get you a copy.  The chap 
> was named "Horst" - grew up in wartime Germany, and the construction is 
> beautiful, much like many of the HBRs that are on the website.  (My HBR-11 



From ianmwilson73 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 13:58:09 2015
From: ianmwilson73 at gmail.com (Ian Wilson)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:58:09 -0700
Subject: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )
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	<A04E4254-2989-4F39-B606-D0FC9BA31672@charter.net>
	<009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com>
	<8A04E18243124F0EBC9125284C4DA51B@TomLaptop>
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Seen several references to the HRO-500 being a Wadley loop.
So I must be misinterpreting the block diagram (the 'synthesizer'
does mention generating 60 frequencies from one reference, so
perhaps it's all hidden in there somewhere).

73, ian K3IMW


On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Ian Wilson <ianmwilson73 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I took a quick look at the HRO-500. I don't think this is a Wadley loop.
> It's double conversion (apart from the LF bands, which upconvert to
> 26.<something>MHz). The synthesizer looks like a real bear. Would
> NOT like to try to restore one of these!
>
> 73, ian K3IMW
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Tom Dailey <radio at daileyservices.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Recently, at a hamfest, I purchased a home-brew Wadley Loop receiver,
>> built by a fellow (here in Colorado).  With 4 tubes, it's astoundingly
>> sensitive, STABLE, and relatively selective.  Considering that some of the
>> RACAL high-end receivers (and the National HRO-500) used this scheme, it's
>> pretty well proven.  As a friend once put it "The Ancients weren't stupid -
>> they were just ancient!"
>> Tom - W0EAJ
>>
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From radio at daileyservices.com  Thu Apr 23 01:18:24 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (radio at daileyservices.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 23:18:24 -0600
Subject: [HBR] h/b 4-tube Wadley Loop receiver
References: <266814069.1689261.1429616971460.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<55364F05.6010007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5AA3F7F5BD224EF69D157D1AD5071A3B@w0eaj>

Yes, there IS one - but you all have to be patient - gotta travel to KC for 
a funeral, so "chill"

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To: <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [HBR] h/b 4-tube Wadley Loop receiver


> Hi,
>
> I thought it turned out there won't be a schematic or manual. If I have 
> that wrong I would like to see it too. I have four tubes. And four more. 
> And four more after that. Etc.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill  KU8H
>
>
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From radio at daileyservices.com  Thu Apr 23 01:19:51 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (radio at daileyservices.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 23:19:51 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
References: <2032408204.13627791.1429616526775.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <736474FAEC384FAEAECC6D25906D5052@w0eaj>

What I'll do, after I return from KC, is to post the "want" list again. 
We'll do a mailing, as the schiz' is too large to scan on what I have avail.

Tom - |W0EAJ 


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From mmarris at notecraft.com  Thu Apr 23 05:55:58 2015
From: mmarris at notecraft.com (Martin Marris)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 05:55:58 -0400
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
In-Reply-To: <736474FAEC384FAEAECC6D25906D5052@w0eaj>
References: <2032408204.13627791.1429616526775.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com>
	<736474FAEC384FAEAECC6D25906D5052@w0eaj>
Message-ID: <000001d07dab$b2cf8b10$186ea130$@notecraft.com>

>>What I'll do, after I return from KC, is to post the "want" list again.<<

If you have a digital camera, I have found that this works almost as well as
a flatbed scanner, and will accommodate any size of document....

(I have a tabloid-size scanner -- 11" x 17" -- but even that is sometimes
too small.)

73 de Martin, KB1WSY



From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 07:00:22 2015
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 07:00:22 -0400
Subject: [HBR] h/b 4-tube Wadley Loop receiver
In-Reply-To: <5AA3F7F5BD224EF69D157D1AD5071A3B@w0eaj>
References: <266814069.1689261.1429616971460.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>	<55364F05.6010007@gmail.com>
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On 04/23/2015 01:18 AM, radio at daileyservices.com wrote:
> Yes, there IS one - but you all have to be patient - gotta travel to 
> KC for a funeral, so "chill"
>
Hi Tom,

I'm glad I misunderstood about the schematic but I'm also sorry to hear 
that you have a funeral. The very best of those are not so very good. 
We'll be thinking about you and offering some prayers. We'll see you 
when you get back.

73,

Bill  KU8H

From stutzt-allenk at att.net  Thu Apr 23 13:06:04 2015
From: stutzt-allenk at att.net (stutzt-allenk at att.net)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 17:06:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
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Tom - 
Please add me to the "want" list when convenient.Thanks,Tom

      From: "radio at daileyservices.com" <radio at daileyservices.com>
 To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:19 PM
 Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
   
What I'll do, after I return from KC, is to post the "want" list again. 
We'll do a mailing, as the schiz' is too large to scan on what I have avail.

Tom - |W0EAJ 


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From charlesfbacon at novuminstitute.org  Thu Apr 23 13:53:13 2015
From: charlesfbacon at novuminstitute.org (charlesfbacon at novuminstitute.org)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:53:13 -0600
Subject: [HBR]  4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
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Please add me to the want list as well. Thanks.

Charles


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Tom - 
Please add me to the "want" list when convenient.Thanks,Tom

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 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:19 PM
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We'll do a mailing, as the schiz' is too large to scan on what I have avail.

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From: oneghose at gmail.com (Sudipta Ghose)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 23:48:09 +0530
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
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Amazing idea it was. I drooled over RA17L,B that was built in VU land
or as the case may be- the Barlow Wadley  XCR-30 as was manufactured
in South Africa. Can I be put in the list please? I live in VU land.
Kind regards and 73,
Sudipta Ghose
VU3TKG

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:23 PM,  <charlesfbacon at novuminstitute.org> wrote:
> Please add me to the want list as well. Thanks.
>
> Charles
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> stutzt-allenk at att.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:06 AM
> To: radio at daileyservices.com; HBR Receiver List
> Subject: Re: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
>
> Tom -
> Please add me to the "want" list when convenient.Thanks,Tom
>
>       From: "radio at daileyservices.com" <radio at daileyservices.com>
>  To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
>  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:19 PM
>  Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
>
> What I'll do, after I return from KC, is to post the "want" list again.
> We'll do a mailing, as the schiz' is too large to scan on what I have avail.
>
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From radio at daileyservices.com  Thu Apr 23 14:19:53 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (radio at daileyservices.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:19:53 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver - schematic
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Okay, I'm gonna tell ALL OF YOU - One last time.

I'm not keeping a list, 'cause I'm on the way to KC for a funeral - I will 
post the listing as soon as I get the thing scanned - so PLEASE dont' ask to 
be put on a "list", cause there isn't one.

Thanx es 73

Tom 


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From ke9xq at charter.net  Thu Apr 23 16:02:52 2015
From: ke9xq at charter.net (William Wood)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 15:02:52 -0500
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
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Ya gotta ove it Tom
being on the receiving end of a pile pup : )
Very Sorry about the Funeral
Safe trip OM
Bill



On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Sudipta Ghose <oneghose at gmail.com> wrote:

> Amazing idea it was. I drooled over RA17L,B that was built in VU land
> or as the case may be- the Barlow Wadley  XCR-30 as was manufactured
> in South Africa. Can I be put in the list please? I live in VU land.
> Kind regards and 73,
> Sudipta Ghose
> VU3TKG
> 
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:23 PM,  <charlesfbacon at novuminstitute.org> wrote:
>> Please add me to the want list as well. Thanks.
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HBR [mailto:hbr-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>> stutzt-allenk at att.net
>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:06 AM
>> To: radio at daileyservices.com; HBR Receiver List
>> Subject: Re: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
>> 
>> Tom -
>> Please add me to the "want" list when convenient.Thanks,Tom
>> 
>>      From: "radio at daileyservices.com" <radio at daileyservices.com>
>> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:19 PM
>> Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
>> 
>> What I'll do, after I return from KC, is to post the "want" list again.
>> We'll do a mailing, as the schiz' is too large to scan on what I have avail.
>> 
>> Tom - |W0EAJ
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From brian at lessonsinlutherie.com  Thu Apr 23 16:35:07 2015
From: brian at lessonsinlutherie.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:35:07 -0700
Subject: [HBR] "The Deluxe HBR Receiver"
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAO9WiXwKTRJMveKqmcXf97/CgAAAEAAAANtQn38acChJnTl0fjGgR0cBAAAAAA==@lessonsinlutherie.com>

Hello All,

 

Thanks to Walt Hutchens' mention of "The Deluxe HBR Receiver" in an article
that he wrote for Electric Radio #47, March 1993, I bought a used copy of
the Radio Handbook---17th edition (1967). I've been gathering HBR
information for quite a while, but hadn't heard of this variation on the
theme until I read Walt's article. 

 

The Radio Handbook's article is quite extensive, and includes parts layout
drawings. There were a number of copies of that edition on Amazon for around
$9.00---a super bargain for an excellent reference book from the golden age
of vacuum tube ham equipment, and edited by that colossus, Bill Orr W6SAI.

 

Has anyone ever seen or used one of the "Deluxe" models? And, Walt, what's
your opinion on this design after 22 years?

 

Cheers,

 

Brian

 

 



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From radio at daileyservices.com  Thu Apr 23 20:35:40 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (radio at daileyservices.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:35:40 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 4-tube Wadley Loop h/b receiver
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I hadn't thought of it that way... pretty funny when taken in context.  Gee, 
haven't been the source of a pileup, since operating out of KG6AAY 
(NavCommSta Guam) a WHOLE BUNCHA years ago.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Wood" <ke9xq at charter.net>


> Ya gotta ove it Tom
> being on the receiving end of a pile pup : )
> Very Sorry about the Funeral
> Safe trip OM
> Bill


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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Fri Apr 24 06:48:19 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Hopperdhh--- via HBR)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 06:48:19 -0400
Subject: [HBR] Zero Tube Wadley Loop Receiver Schematic
Message-ID: <6b67f.1bc579f7.426b7973@aol.com>



Hey Folks,
 
Check this link for a Wadley Loop receiver that has NO tubes!
 
http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/yaesu/frg7/
 
I posted the link because I can't deal with another pile-up!
 
Dan K9WEK

From radio at daileyservices.com  Fri Apr 24 09:01:57 2015
From: radio at daileyservices.com (radio at daileyservices.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 07:01:57 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Zero Tube Wadley Loop Receiver Schematic
References: <6b67f.1bc579f7.426b7973@aol.com>
Message-ID: <133B6E2572834159AEC7F087DBD8F8FE@w0eaj>

Yes, and it WAS and IS one of the greats.  The "Frog Seven"

TC

> Check this link for a Wadley Loop receiver that has NO tubes!
> 
> http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/yaesu/frg7/
> 
> I posted the link because I can't deal with another pile-up!
> 
> Dan K9WEK


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From brian at lessonsinlutherie.com  Wed Apr 29 11:43:23 2015
From: brian at lessonsinlutherie.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 08:43:23 -0700
Subject: [HBR] CB radios for parts?
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAO9WiXwKTRJMveKqmcXf97/CgAAAEAAAAH5u5C3gsZ5PpfSpHSu0FiEBAAAAAA==@lessonsinlutherie.com>

Hello All,

 

Has anyone used an old tube type CB radio as source for parts? I read
somewhere that their first IF transformer is typically around 1650 KHz.
There is a ton of them on ebay for quite low prices. 

 

Normally I can't bring myself to cannibalize a restorable piece of gear for
parts, but a CB radio, well.that seems to fall below the line (;->).

 

Cheers,

 

Brian

 

 



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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Wed Apr 29 15:04:47 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Hopperdhh--- via HBR)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:04:47 -0400
Subject: [HBR] CB radios for parts?
Message-ID: <56fd1.4ad57baa.4272854f@aol.com>



There are a few with a first IF of 1650, but not typically.  You can  
usually search for data on CB's and find out if that particular one has a 1650  
IF.
 
Dan K9WEK
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/29/2015 11:43:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
brian at lessonsinlutherie.com writes:

Hello  All,



Has anyone used an old tube type CB radio as source for  parts? I read
somewhere that their first IF transformer is typically around  1650 KHz.
There is a ton of them on ebay for quite low prices.  



Normally I can't bring myself to cannibalize a restorable  piece of gear for
parts, but a CB radio, well.that seems to fall below the  line  (;->).



Cheers,



Brian







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From wrcromwell at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 15:32:21 2015
From: wrcromwell at gmail.com (Bill Cromwell)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:32:21 -0400
Subject: [HBR] CB radios for parts?
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I have three here that are now part of (mostly *ARE*) ten meter radios. 
I'm thinking of putting one of them on twelve meters.

73,

Bill  KU8H



On 04/29/2015 11:43 AM, Brian Burns wrote:
> Hello All,
>
>   
>
> Has anyone used an old tube type CB radio as source for parts? I read
> somewhere that their first IF transformer is typically around 1650 KHz.
> There is a ton of them on ebay for quite low prices.
>
>   
>
> Normally I can't bring myself to cannibalize a restorable piece of gear for
> parts, but a CB radio, well.that seems to fall below the line (;->).
>
>   
>
> Cheers,
>
>   
>
> Brian
>
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From brianburns1066 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 13:21:15 2015
From: brianburns1066 at gmail.com (Brian Burns)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 10:21:15 -0700
Subject: [HBR] CB radios for parts?
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Hello Dan,

Thanks! I'll be sure to check BAMA to confirm the IF frequency before I buy
one.

Cheers,

Brian

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have three here that are now part of (mostly *ARE*) ten meter radios.
> I'm thinking of putting one of them on twelve meters.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill  KU8H
>
>
>
>
> On 04/29/2015 11:43 AM, Brian Burns wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>> Has anyone used an old tube type CB radio as source for parts? I read
>> somewhere that their first IF transformer is typically around 1650 KHz.
>> There is a ton of them on ebay for quite low prices.
>>
>>
>> Normally I can't bring myself to cannibalize a restorable piece of gear
>> for
>> parts, but a CB radio, well.that seems to fall below the line (;->).
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
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From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Thu Apr 30 16:11:46 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Ron Barlow via HBR)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 13:11:46 -0700
Subject: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )
In-Reply-To: <009301d07b7a$d4dd8be0$7e98a3a0$@notecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1430424706.45892.YahooMailBasic@web160103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hi Martin,
 My hearty congrats on your hb efforts! A very refreshing "read"!
               GL & 73 de ron n4gjv

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 4/20/15, Martin Marris <mmarris at notecraft.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Chassis Kit continued or not : )
 To: "'HBR Receiver List'" <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
 Date: Monday, April 20, 2015, 11:01 AM
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 The answer to your question about my primitive receiver is
 answered at great
 length in this thread on eHam:
 http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,90273.0.html.
 
 The short answer is that for a receiver that relies on early
 generation
 FETs, and is regenerative to boot, performance is
 surprisingly good.
 Certainly good enough for use in QSOs, or at least I hope so
 (I'm not on the
 air yet). Above all, it is very sensitive. Admittedly, it is
 as wide as a
 barn door but you can't really expect stellar selectivity
 from a regen.
 
 In the past couple of years I have logged several hundred
 "SWL" QSOs from
 all over the world on 10, 15, 20, 40 and 80m on this little
 receiver. I
 can't wait to use it in a two-way QSO!
 
 In a general sense however, I cannot answer your question. I
 am a "new ham"
 (licensed three years ago but with very little spare time)
 and this is my
 *only* receiver: I have not been "spoiled" by a more
 elaborate superhet or
 by commercial gear. My goal is to get on the air with an
 entirely homebrew
 station, vintage 1968. (I have also built the companion
 three-tube
 transmitter and my project is described here:
 http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,97719.0.html).
 
 The biggest puzzle with the receiver was that, if you built
 it exactly as
 described in the ARRL project, it worked well on 80m and 40m
 but was a bust
 on the other bands (it either failed to oscillate; or when
 it did, it
 "motorboarded" and overloaded badly enough to be unusable).
 
 This was eventually fixed by varying the value of C9, band
 by band. I don't
 really understand why the original design allegedly worked
 fine. My exact
 copy of it did not -- but regen receivers are tricky.
 
 I am so pleased with this little receiver that I have
 (possibly
 over-ambitious) plans to build a second one, with the same
 circuit but using
 slightly larger, 6-prong Amphenol coil forms (instead of the
 1", 5-prong
 Millen ones in the original). This would allow me to wire C9
 inside the coil
 form itself and eliminate some awkward fiddling around every
 time the band
 is changed. As of now, I'm using the receiver pretty much as
 a monoband 40m
 set and plan to hang out on that band exclusively for the
 first few months
 after I get on the air this summer.
 
 For what it's worth, I get the impression that with
 receivers, it's the care
 taken in construction and the quality of the components that
 accounst for at
 least 50 percent of the results. A very simple regenerative
 set probably
 outperforms a multi-tube superhet that's just been thrown
 together.
 
 73 de Martin, KB1WSY

From hbr at mailman.qth.net  Thu Apr 30 16:21:09 2015
From: hbr at mailman.qth.net (Ron Barlow via HBR)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 13:21:09 -0700
Subject: [HBR] CB radios for parts?
In-Reply-To: <CAMNk5Soji0ND+azpHWH2_JDR6cEj19wMb7sqnwmoufDqftWOtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1430425269.21666.YahooMailBasic@web160103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I have an old tube type cb xcvr (an Eico factory built unit, IIRC) that is a dual conversion superhet, with IF freqs of ~ 1650 khz & 262 khz, again IIRC.
 I don't how common this scheme was, but note that this particular unit has only a single 1650 khz IF xfmr. Others may have used a similar scheme??
                    73 de ron
-------------------------------------------
On Thu, 4/30/15, Brian Burns <brianburns1066 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [HBR] CB radios for parts?
 To: "HBR Receiver List" <hbr at mailman.qth.net>
 Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015, 1:21 PM
 
 Hello Dan,
 
 Thanks! I'll be sure to
 check BAMA to confirm the IF frequency before I buy
 one.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Brian
 
 On Wed,
 Apr 29, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 > I
 have three here that are now part of (mostly *ARE*) ten
 meter radios.
 > I'm thinking of
 putting one of them on twelve meters.
 >
 > 73,
 >
 > Bill? KU8H
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 On 04/29/2015 11:43 AM, Brian Burns wrote:
 >
 >> Hello All,
 >>
 >>
 >> Has anyone used an old tube type CB
 radio as source for parts? I read
 >>
 somewhere that their first IF transformer is typically
 around 1650 KHz.
 >> There is a ton of
 them on ebay for quite low prices.
 >>
 >>
 >> Normally I can't bring myself to
 cannibalize a restorable piece of gear
 >> for
 >> parts,
 but a CB radio, well.that seems to fall below the line
 (;->).
 >>
 >>
 >> Cheers,
 >>
 >>
 >> Brian
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
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From hbrnut at suddenlink.net  Thu Apr 30 18:06:02 2015
From: hbrnut at suddenlink.net (WA5VGO)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 17:06:02 -0500
Subject: [HBR] CB radios for parts?
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If the receiver is single conversion it'll almost certainly have a 1650 IF. This includes most of the early, less expensive models. 

Darrell

