From bjtatum1 at peoplepc.com  Sun Apr  1 20:41:42 2007
From: bjtatum1 at peoplepc.com (Byron Tatum)
Date: Sun Apr  1 22:00:21 2007
Subject: [HBR] Stancor Coil Info
Message-ID: <010b01c774bf$b0e08c30$805ae604@your6jnhhu0520>

Hello-
    It seems odd to me but I cannot locate any info for Stancor IF transformers or RF coils. Does anyone have scanned copies of the particular catalog pages of the Stancor IF's and RF coils?
                                    Thanks, Byron WA5THJ
From N2EY at aol.com  Sun Apr  1 23:14:11 2007
From: N2EY at aol.com (N2EY@aol.com)
Date: Sun Apr  1 23:17:44 2007
Subject: [HBR] Stancor Coil Info
Message-ID: <cc0.ea6cc82.3341cf03@aol.com>

In a message dated 4/1/07 9:57:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
bjtatum1@peoplepc.com writes:


> Does anyone have scanned copies of the particular catalog pages of the 
> Stancor IF's and RF coils?
> 

I didn't know Stancor made any! 

73 de Jim, N2EY


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From bjtatum1 at peoplepc.com  Mon Apr  2 00:59:25 2007
From: bjtatum1 at peoplepc.com (Byron Tatum)
Date: Mon Apr  2 01:02:42 2007
Subject: [HBR] Stancor Coil Info
References: <cc0.ea6cc82.3341cf03@aol.com>
Message-ID: <018b01c774e3$b25ce8a0$805ae604@your6jnhhu0520>

Yes-
    The large-can iron core IF's are very similiar to Miller 612-series, in 
fact, they are described in exactly the same wording and physically look 
similiar.
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> In a message dated 4/1/07 9:57:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> bjtatum1@peoplepc.com writes:
>
>
>> Does anyone have scanned copies of the particular catalog pages of the
>> Stancor IF's and RF coils?
>>
>
> I didn't know Stancor made any!
>
> 73 de Jim, N2EY
>
>
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From LeeCraner at aol.com  Mon Apr 16 12:00:28 2007
From: LeeCraner at aol.com (LeeCraner@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr 16 12:05:47 2007
Subject: [HBR] 3.5 mHz Crystal Needed
Message-ID: <c95.da2675f.3354f79c@aol.com>

I'm coming down the home strech on my HBR-16 rebuild.  Testing and alignment 
will start in a couple of weeks.  But before that begins, I need a 3.5 mHz 
crystal for the calibrator.  Does anyone out there have a spare to sell?  I'd 
also like to pick up a spare 1.7 mHz crystal for the LO, just in case.

Thanks, in advance!

73
Lee WB6SSW


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From bear57 at telus.net  Mon Apr 16 12:09:13 2007
From: bear57 at telus.net (Lorne Barber)
Date: Mon Apr 16 12:13:26 2007
Subject: [HBR] 3.5 mHz Crystal Needed
References: <c95.da2675f.3354f79c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <019a01c78041$939566e0$7060e8d8@acera2gjrt6tf9>

Lee, I obtained two 3500 khz crystals from Bry Carling.
Not sure about the 1700 khz. He may have that also.
Good luck
73
Lorne
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Subject: [HBR] 3.5 mHz Crystal Needed


> I'm coming down the home strech on my HBR-16 rebuild.  Testing and 
> alignment
> will start in a couple of weeks.  But before that begins, I need a 3.5 mHz
> crystal for the calibrator.  Does anyone out there have a spare to sell? 
> I'd
> also like to pick up a spare 1.7 mHz crystal for the LO, just in case.
>
> Thanks, in advance!
>
> 73
> Lee WB6SSW
>
>
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From LeeCraner at aol.com  Mon Apr 16 14:36:37 2007
From: LeeCraner at aol.com (LeeCraner@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr 16 14:41:46 2007
Subject: [HBR] 3.5 mHz Crystal Needed
Message-ID: <d02.d5dbcff.33551c35@aol.com>

Lorne,

Thanks for the lead.  I'll drop Bry an email.  

Do you have an HBR up and running?

73
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From tshoppa at wmata.com  Thu Apr 26 15:30:53 2007
From: tshoppa at wmata.com (Tim  Shoppa)
Date: Thu Apr 26 15:37:24 2007
Subject: [HBR] 6SN7 infinite-impedance upgrade for HBR-14
Message-ID: <4630C5AD0200003700003CB6@gwiavs.nservices.wmata.com>

The HBR-16 uses a 12AU7 for the infinite-impedance
detector and AVC.

There was evidently an upgrade for the HBR-14 which
added these features using a 6SN7.

Is the upgrade for the HBR-14 identical to the HBR-16
section except for the transliteration of a little bottle
with a big bottle?

Does this upgrade necessitate replacing the 6SQ7 with
the 6BE6 too, or could it be done in two steps?

Tim. (KA0BTD)

From windy10605 at juno.com  Thu Apr 26 22:23:35 2007
From: windy10605 at juno.com (Kees & Sandy)
Date: Thu Apr 26 22:31:12 2007
Subject: [HBR] 6SN7 infinite-impedance upgrade for HBR-14
Message-ID: <20070426.192431.8332.2575662@webmail24.nyc.untd.com>

I'd really like to answer your question, but I don't know and I can't find it in the HBR-14 material.
73 Kees K5BCQ


-- "Tim  Shoppa" <tshoppa@wmata.com> wrote:
The HBR-16 uses a 12AU7 for the infinite-impedance
detector and AVC.

There was evidently an upgrade for the HBR-14 which
added these features using a 6SN7.

Is the upgrade for the HBR-14 identical to the HBR-16
section except for the transliteration of a little bottle
with a big bottle?

Does this upgrade necessitate replacing the 6SQ7 with
the 6BE6 too, or could it be done in two steps?

Tim. (KA0BTD)

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From tshoppa at wmata.com  Fri Apr 27 08:23:57 2007
From: tshoppa at wmata.com (Tim  Shoppa)
Date: Fri Apr 27 08:30:46 2007
Subject: [HBR] 6SN7 infinite-impedance upgrade for HBR-14
In-Reply-To: <20070426.192431.8332.2575662@webmail24.nyc.untd.com>
References: <20070426.192431.8332.2575662@webmail24.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4631B31D0200003700003DCB@gwiavs.nservices.wmata.com>

Kees K5BCQ wrote:

> I'd really like to answer your question, but I
> don't know and I can't find it in the HBR-14
> material.

Evidently this upgrade is more closely associated
with the HBR-16 material. I don't know if in the
original HBR-16 article or one of the follow-ons,
or maybe a "hints and kinks" from the same
timeframe, or ???

I would guess, because the mod article evidently
suggests a 6SN7 rather than a 12AU7, that the
mod was written by someone who used parts
at hand rather than parts that match :-).

I'm going to proceed under the assumption that
the modification is very very similar to the HBR-16 stages.

I write all this as a "new owner" of a HBR-14 with 6SN7
and 6BE6 in it!

Tim.

From hbrnut at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 27 12:30:31 2007
From: hbrnut at earthlink.net (hbrnut@earthlink.net)
Date: Fri Apr 27 12:36:40 2007
Subject: [HBR] 6SN7 infinite-impedance upgrade for HBR-14
Message-ID: <23400829.1177691432265.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I really don't think this is a big mystery. The 6BE6 is basically a miniature version of a 6SQ7 and a 12AU7 is a miniature version of a 6SN7. I think the builder just used what he had on hand.

73,
Darrell, WA5VGO
From n2ey at aol.com  Fri Apr 27 13:03:46 2007
From: n2ey at aol.com (n2ey@aol.com)
Date: Fri Apr 27 13:10:07 2007
Subject: [HBR] 6SN7 infinite-impedance upgrade for HBR-14
In-Reply-To: <23400829.1177691432265.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <23400829.1177691432265.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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-----Original Message-----
From: hbrnut@earthlink.net

>The 6BE6 is basically a miniature
>version of a 6SQ7

No it isn't.

The 6BE6 is a pentagrid converter - miniature version of the 6SA7.

The 6SQ7 is a duo-diode/triode combo.

>and a 12AU7 is a miniature version of a 6SN7.

Close but not exactly. 6CG7 is a miniature 6SN7. 12AU7 is two 6C4s in 
one bulb.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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From hbrnut at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 27 20:47:01 2007
From: hbrnut at earthlink.net (WA5VGO)
Date: Fri Apr 27 20:53:12 2007
Subject: [HBR] 6SN7 infinite-impedance upgrade for HBR-14
In-Reply-To: <4630C5AD0200003700003CB6@gwiavs.nservices.wmata.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20070427194031.00ce57e0@mail.earthlink.net>

Are you sure the 6BE6 isn't a product detector? That was a common 
modification that was suggested by Ted. A 6BE6 in place of a 6SQ7 doesn't 
make sense to me.

Darrell, WA5VGO


At 03:30 PM 4/26/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>The HBR-16 uses a 12AU7 for the infinite-impedance
>detector and AVC.
>
>There was evidently an upgrade for the HBR-14 which
>added these features using a 6SN7.
>
>Is the upgrade for the HBR-14 identical to the HBR-16
>section except for the transliteration of a little bottle
>with a big bottle?
>
>Does this upgrade necessitate replacing the 6SQ7 with
>the 6BE6 too, or could it be done in two steps?
>
>Tim. (KA0BTD)


From shoppa_hbr at trailing-edge.com  Sun Apr 29 08:34:36 2007
From: shoppa_hbr at trailing-edge.com (shoppa_hbr@trailing-edge.com)
Date: Sun Apr 29 08:40:55 2007
Subject: [HBR] HBR-14 (and a half) sanity checks
Message-ID: <20070429123436.36D8BBA43D2@mini-me.trailing-edge.com>

OK, it seems my HBR-14 has some things that make it no longer a
"stock" HBR-14: BFO, product detector, and first audio stages 
seem to be lifted from the HBR-16 with the transliteration
of a 6SN7 for 12AU7.

But that end of the radio seems to be working fine. I'm moving
my attention to the front end.

I'm trying to tune it up to work on 40M right now.

I can tweak the 1st oscillator coil cap and zero set so that when
the dial is most of the way to the left, the osc is at 8600 kc.
I'm doing the math right, 8600-7000 = 1600kc, the first IF, can
someone confirm that sanity check? As I turn the knob to the
right the HF osc goes through 8700, 8800 kc so I think I'm
in the right range. (All freqs measured with a loosely coupled
loop on the HF osc. If I put a scope probe anywere in there
it pulls by hundreds of kc.)

Anyway, the calibrator comes in quite clearly at 7000kc
nearly pegging the S-meter. I know it's the calibrator
because if I turn it off it's gone :-). With the calibrator
on I also hear a weak signal at 7080kc, but that's goes on and
off too, so it must just be some leakthrough somewhere.

If I advance the IF gain too far, the audio becomes squirrely,
this means the IF is breaking out into self-oscillation at this
point, right? So I just don't turn the IF gain knob that far up.

The RF gain pot is clearly shot, because if I don't have it
cranked all the way to the right then the calibrator drops way
down and no RF knob action does anything anymore. In fact it
sounds exactly like I set the switch to "transmit" in this case.
I don't know where to get a 7500 ohm 2W wirewound pot, but maybe
I can either fix it, or just sub in a 5K or 10K wirewound pot
here.

But even though I can hear the calibrator quite clearly and
peak it with the trimmer so that it's nearly pegging the S-meter,
I don't actually hear any CW on the 7000-7100kc segment where
I know there has to be activity. In fact all I hear is something
that sounds like Radio China or Radio Taiwan when I hook up an
antenna and there's no change as I turn the tuning dial.
I'm guessing there's something else in the front end
that's severely out of whack. I'll be checking over the coils,
I guess.

I can peak up the RF input coil (L1) quite nicely with the trimmer on the
calibrator, and there's no pulling of the HF osc when I do this. But
any even slight adjustment to the mixer coil (L2) trimmer cap will
send the HF Osc zooming across the band (hundreds of kc), or just plain
stop it from oscillating. I don't think that's supposed to happen!
The coupling between HF osc and mixer
is just the gimmick. Maybe that damn 6AH6 is breaking out in self-
oscillation? I built a VFO out of a 6AH6 once and it just loves to
oscillate at 400-500Mc even though it was supposed to oscillate
at 3.5Mc :-).

Tim.
From hbrnut at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 29 10:13:13 2007
From: hbrnut at earthlink.net (WA5VGO)
Date: Sun Apr 29 10:19:32 2007
Subject: [HBR] HBR-14 (and a half) sanity checks
In-Reply-To: <20070429123436.36D8BBA43D2@mini-me.trailing-edge.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20070429091116.00d20cc0@mail.earthlink.net>

I may be mistaken, but I thought the HFO was suppose to operate on the low 
side on every band except 80 meters.

Darrell, WA5VGO



>I can tweak the 1st oscillator coil cap and zero set so that when
>the dial is most of the way to the left, the osc is at 8600 kc.
>I'm doing the math right, 8600-7000 = 1600kc, the first IF, can
>someone confirm that sanity check? As I turn the knob to the
>right the HF osc goes through 8700, 8800 kc so I think I'm
>in the right range. (All freqs measured with a loosely coupled
>loop on the HF osc. If I put a scope probe anywere in there
>it pulls by hundreds of kc.)


From shoppa_hbr at trailing-edge.com  Sun Apr 29 10:49:58 2007
From: shoppa_hbr at trailing-edge.com (shoppa_hbr@trailing-edge.com)
Date: Sun Apr 29 10:56:23 2007
Subject: [HBR] HBR-14 (and a half) sanity checks
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20070429091116.00d20cc0@mail.earthlink.net>
References: <5.2.0.9.2.20070429091116.00d20cc0@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20070429144959.138C7BA43DB@mini-me.trailing-edge.com>

WA5VGO <hbrnut@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I may be mistaken, but I thought the HFO was suppose to operate on the low 
> side on every band except 80 meters.

That might be! That's the exact sort of thing I need sanity checked.

I've been poking through K5BCQ's website, and while he has the schematics
I cannot find the coil tables. Doesn't mean they aren't there, just that
I haven't found them yet. What I have is the radio, a bunch of mostly
unmarked coils, and a lot of the coils are missing their trimmer caps
and some are missing their windings. The 40M ones seemed to be clearly
marked so that's where I started!

The dial on the front of this 50-year-old radio is hand marked, and
both the 80M and 40M notations indicate that it tunes the same way
on both bands. But I could be wrong! And of course if the tuning cap
is off by 180 degrees, then I could be wrong on both of them!

Tim.
From windy10605 at juno.com  Sun Apr 29 11:48:36 2007
From: windy10605 at juno.com (Kees & Sandy)
Date: Sun Apr 29 11:56:30 2007
Subject: [HBR] Coil data
Message-ID: <20070429.084908.21820.2589325@webmail10.nyc.untd.com>

I'll add the coil data to the schematic sections on the web site.
73 Kees K5BCQ
From windy10605 at juno.com  Sun Apr 29 12:14:17 2007
From: windy10605 at juno.com (Kees & Sandy)
Date: Sun Apr 29 12:21:51 2007
Subject: [HBR] Coil data
Message-ID: <20070429.091449.21820.2589434@webmail10.nyc.untd.com>

OK, it's done ...always takes me a while to figure out the HTML again.
73 Kees K5BCQ

-- "Kees & Sandy" <windy10605@juno.com> wrote:
I'll add the coil data to the schematic sections on the web site.
73 Kees K5BCQ
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From shoppa_hbr at trailing-edge.com  Sun Apr 29 13:07:32 2007
From: shoppa_hbr at trailing-edge.com (shoppa_hbr@trailing-edge.com)
Date: Sun Apr 29 13:13:52 2007
Subject: [HBR] Coil data
In-Reply-To: <20070429.084908.21820.2589325@webmail10.nyc.untd.com>
References: <20070429.084908.21820.2589325@webmail10.nyc.untd.com>
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"Kees & Sandy" <windy10605@juno.com> wrote:
> I'll add the coil data to the schematic sections on the web site.

Very interesting, thanks!

Unfortunately, all this puts me in the "too much information" category!

I found that the oscillator coils that were labeled "80M" actually
seem to be 40M coils, that the "40M" coils actually seem to be for
the 10Mc or so SWL band, etc. I will have to very carefully sort
through all my coils and see if they were wound for the original
mixing scheme, or if the guy who built this HBR-14.5 used his own
mixing scheme, or what.

The previous two owners or this HBR and coil set were pretty
much stumped by this same aspect too.

Good news, is that when I find what really are supposed to be
oscillator coils, that they are far more stable than what had
originally been labeled oscillator coils (tapping actually
done correctly). I think I had been plugging mislabeled RF coils
into the oscillator, no wonder it was so unstable :-).

In the meantime, I probably have to fix that RF gain pot.
Any suggestions for replacing the 2W 7500 ohm unit? Mouser has
some 3W 5K and 10K WW's for a couple of bucks.

At the same time, the AC power wiring in this HBR is completely
insane, the AC fuseholder is mounted with its lug a tiny fraction
of a millimeter from the power chokes (caused me some consternation
until I stuck a sheet of plastic in to stop it from arcing over...)
and the AC power transformer is on this hokey bracket.
Will probably re-do all this with an IEC inlet and a grounded
power cable.

Tim.
From hbrnut at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 29 13:11:14 2007
From: hbrnut at earthlink.net (WA5VGO)
Date: Sun Apr 29 13:17:33 2007
Subject: [HBR] HBR-14 (and a half) sanity checks
In-Reply-To: <20070429144959.138C7BA43DB@mini-me.trailing-edge.com>
References: <5.2.0.9.2.20070429091116.00d20cc0@mail.earthlink.net>
	<5.2.0.9.2.20070429091116.00d20cc0@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20070429120350.00ce6e50@mail.earthlink.net>

It looks like he did run the HFO on the high side for 40 meters on the HBR 
14 and 16. In later models he ran it on the low side. Actually, either one 
should work, although it might be easier to stabilize it on the lower 
frequency.

If you have a grid dip meter, check the antenna and mixer coils. My 
experience has been that they have a fair amount of range, and also that 
the mixer can be a little flaky. I have found it is very possible to end up 
on the wrong frequency, just as you have described.

73,
Darrell, WA5VGO



At 10:49 AM 4/29/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>WA5VGO <hbrnut@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > I may be mistaken, but I thought the HFO was suppose to operate on the low
> > side on every band except 80 meters.
>
>That might be! That's the exact sort of thing I need sanity checked.
>
>I've been poking through K5BCQ's website, and while he has the schematics
>I cannot find the coil tables. Doesn't mean they aren't there, just that
>I haven't found them yet. What I have is the radio, a bunch of mostly
>unmarked coils, and a lot of the coils are missing their trimmer caps
>and some are missing their windings. The 40M ones seemed to be clearly
>marked so that's where I started!
>
>The dial on the front of this 50-year-old radio is hand marked, and
>both the 80M and 40M notations indicate that it tunes the same way
>on both bands. But I could be wrong! And of course if the tuning cap
>is off by 180 degrees, then I could be wrong on both of them!
>
>Tim.


From windy10605 at juno.com  Sun Apr 29 13:16:16 2007
From: windy10605 at juno.com (Kees & Sandy)
Date: Sun Apr 29 13:24:25 2007
Subject: [HBR] Coil data
Message-ID: <20070429.101712.21820.2589726@webmail10.nyc.untd.com>

>Will probably re-do all this with an IEC inlet and a grounded power cable.

.....good plan, ....very good plan.
73 Kees K5BCQ
From bjstanna at ralcorp.com  Mon Apr 30 08:59:07 2007
From: bjstanna at ralcorp.com (bjstanna@ralcorp.com)
Date: Mon Apr 30 09:05:37 2007
Subject: [HBR] Coil data
In-Reply-To: <20070429.084908.21820.2589325@webmail10.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <OF6ACA0ADA.8CBA2A19-ON852572CD.00474F8C-852572CD.004754CF@ralcorp.com>

Thank you very much



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From Hopperdhh at aol.com  Mon Apr 30 11:28:33 2007
From: Hopperdhh at aol.com (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
Date: Mon Apr 30 11:35:12 2007
Subject: [HBR] Coil data
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Hi Kees,

I am also interested in the HBR coil data, but couldn't find it on you web 
site.  I couldn't find a schematics section.  How do I find it?

Dan K9WEK



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From windy10605 at juno.com  Mon Apr 30 11:46:42 2007
From: windy10605 at juno.com (Kees & Sandy)
Date: Mon Apr 30 11:54:12 2007
Subject: [HBR] Coil data
Message-ID: <20070430.084648.1008.2227342@webmail02.nyc.untd.com>

The coil data is listed in the "pictures" section which contains schematics, coil data, ....and pictures.
73 Kees K5BCQ

-- Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote:
Hi Kees,

I am also interested in the HBR coil data, but couldn't find it on you web 
site.  I couldn't find a schematics section.  How do I find it?

Dan K9WEK



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Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
 

Retrieve reflector archived data via http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr

