From windy10605 at juno.com  Thu Jun  2 14:23:51 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Thu Jun  2 14:37:36 2005
Subject: [HBR] web site
Message-ID: <20050602.132351.2396.11.windy10605@juno.com>

If someone want's to mirror the site, feel free to improve
throughput/response. I don't know exactly what's involved but everything
on the web site plus much more in on my CD and I wrote all the HTML
myself (lots more efficient and it seems to work OK).

73 Kees K5BCQ 
From windy10605 at juno.com  Thu Jun  2 14:24:43 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Thu Jun  2 14:38:31 2005
Subject: [HBR] more pictures
Message-ID: <20050602.132444.2396.12.windy10605@juno.com>


I just uploaded some pictures from Darrell on an HBR-14 receiver he
picked up some time ago and a work in progress which is a "CW Man's
Receiver" from the 14th edition West Coast Handbook.

Also on the site are two new pictures of HBR receivers by Chuck Klawitter
W9VZR (haven't I seen that call before on an HBR ?) Some really nice
examples of super homebrew building, Chuck !!

As I mentioned earlier, I did have more pictures but the last crash took
them to the bit bucket ...sorry ....please resubmit them to me if you
don't see your receiver up there. The CD does have more pictures on it
but I try to tread lightly on Waller's site because we are taking a LOT
of space.

Lately I've been working on RC kits which I have now also uploaded to my
web site 
....last section off the main page at   http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq   little
different from tube type radios.


73 Kees K5BCQ
From windy10605 at juno.com  Fri Jun  3 15:20:39 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Fri Jun  3 15:34:32 2005
Subject: [HBR] Mirror Site
Message-ID: <20050603.142039.1652.4.windy10605@juno.com>

Mucho thanks to Bob and Ed ..........we now have a mirror site available
at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/  This will allow faster downloading of the
large picture files. 

73 Kees K5BCQ
From windy10605 at juno.com  Fri Jun  3 15:26:14 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Fri Jun  3 15:39:28 2005
Subject: [HBR] Fw: Mirror Site
Message-ID: <20050603.142614.1652.5.windy10605@juno.com>

The only thing different is that the "hit counter" starts over on the
edebris mirror ......looks good to me. Too bad I can't see the full
effect on my 26.4KB modem, but I bet some of you guys can see one HECK of
a lot of improvement.

73 Kees K5BCQ 

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: windy10605@juno.com
To: HBR@mailman.qth.net
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:20:39 -0500
Subject: Mirror Site

Mucho thanks to Bob and Ed ..........we now have a mirror site available
at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/  This will allow faster downloading of the
large picture files. 

73 Kees K5BCQ
From k4oah at mindspring.com  Fri Jun  3 15:32:50 2005
From: k4oah at mindspring.com (Garey Barrell)
Date: Fri Jun  3 15:44:50 2005
Subject: [HBR] Fw: Mirror Site
In-Reply-To: <20050603.142614.1652.5.windy10605@juno.com>
References: <20050603.142614.1652.5.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <42A0B062.6030409@mindspring.com>

Kees -

Fantastic!!   I've already found things I never had the patience to wait 
for before.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta

Drake C-Line Service Manual
<http://hr99.home.mindspring.com/R-4C_Servicez/> 



windy10605@juno.com wrote:

>The only thing different is that the "hit counter" starts over on the
>edebris mirror ......looks good to me. Too bad I can't see the full
>effect on my 26.4KB modem, but I bet some of you guys can see one HECK of
>a lot of improvement.
>
>73 Kees K5BCQ 
>
>--------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: windy10605@juno.com
>To: HBR@mailman.qth.net
>Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:20:39 -0500
>Subject: Mirror Site
>
>Mucho thanks to Bob and Ed ..........we now have a mirror site available
>at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/  This will allow faster downloading of the
>large picture files. 
>
>73 Kees K5BCQ
>
>  
>
From windy10605 at juno.com  Fri Jun  3 15:41:37 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Fri Jun  3 15:55:07 2005
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Fw: Mirror Site
Message-ID: <20050603.144138.1652.6.windy10605@juno.com>

All the thanks go to Bob and Ed   ....I just watched

Kees

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Garey Barrell <k4oah@mindspring.com>
To: HBR Receiver List <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:32:50 -0400
Subject: Re: [HBR] Fw: Mirror Site
Message-ID: <42A0B062.6030409@mindspring.com>
References: <20050603.142614.1652.5.windy10605@juno.com>

Kees -

Fantastic!!   I've already found things I never had the patience to wait 
for before.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Atlanta

Drake C-Line Service Manual
<http://hr99.home.mindspring.com/R-4C_Servicez/> 



windy10605@juno.com wrote:

>The only thing different is that the "hit counter" starts over on the
>edebris mirror ......looks good to me. Too bad I can't see the full
>effect on my 26.4KB modem, but I bet some of you guys can see one HECK
of
>a lot of improvement.
>
>73 Kees K5BCQ 
>
>--------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: windy10605@juno.com
>To: HBR@mailman.qth.net
>Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:20:39 -0500
>Subject: Mirror Site
>
>Mucho thanks to Bob and Ed ..........we now have a mirror site available
>at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/  This will allow faster downloading of the
>large picture files. 
>
>73 Kees K5BCQ
>
>  
>
************************************
Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/


Retrieve reflector archived data via
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From ianmwilson at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 13 22:54:35 2005
From: ianmwilson at earthlink.net (Ian Wilson)
Date: Mon Jun 13 22:54:57 2005
Subject: [HBR] Parts list?
Message-ID: <003a01c5708c$6cf97fb0$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>

Sorry if this is the question that everyone asks. I wondered whether
there is a parts list that shows the values of the variable capacitors,
etc. The schematics say "see coil table" but I don't see any of the
articles containing the coil table online. I am probably missing
something.

Anyway, a very neat site, highly inspiring. Thank you for all the effort
that must have gone into assembling and maintaining this.

73, ian K3IMW



From windy10605 at juno.com  Mon Jun 13 23:30:56 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Mon Jun 13 23:32:57 2005
Subject: Fw: [HBR] Parts list?
Message-ID: <20050613.223056.1880.4.windy10605@juno.com>

Glad you like the site, Ian. Let me check the files and see if the
schematic pdf section was eliminated somewhere along the line. I'll
reload it.

73 Kees K5BCQ


--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Ian Wilson" <ianmwilson@earthlink.net>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:54:35 -0700
Subject: [HBR] Parts list?
Message-ID: <003a01c5708c$6cf97fb0$6802a8c0@trabucoian>

Sorry if this is the question that everyone asks. I wondered whether
there is a parts list that shows the values of the variable capacitors,
etc. The schematics say "see coil table" but I don't see any of the
articles containing the coil table online. I am probably missing
something.

Anyway, a very neat site, highly inspiring. Thank you for all the effort
that must have gone into assembling and maintaining this.

73, ian K3IMW



************************************
Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/


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From windy10605 at juno.com  Mon Jun 13 23:35:25 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Mon Jun 13 23:37:56 2005
Subject: [HBR] Parts list?
Message-ID: <20050613.223526.1880.5.windy10605@juno.com>

I can send you the schematics file off the CD which has all the HBR
schematics in PDF format 566KB. Anybody else want a copy ?

73, Kees K5BCQ
From windy10605 at juno.com  Mon Jun 13 23:52:05 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Mon Jun 13 23:53:04 2005
Subject: [HBR] Parts list?
Message-ID: <20050613.225207.1880.7.windy10605@juno.com>

Wait, are you looking for the plug in coil capacitor sizes ?

73 Kees K5BCQ
From roomberg at ptd.net  Tue Jun 14 00:15:39 2005
From: roomberg at ptd.net (rob)
Date: Tue Jun 14 00:08:48 2005
Subject: [HBR] Parts list?
In-Reply-To: <20050613.223526.1880.5.windy10605@juno.com>
References: <20050613.223526.1880.5.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <42AE59EB.2090108@ptd.net>

YES   Rob KB3BYT
mailto:roomberg@ptd.net



windy10605@juno.com wrote:

>I can send you the schematics file off the CD which has all the HBR
>schematics in PDF format 566KB. Anybody else want a copy ?
>
>73, Kees K5BCQ
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
>there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
> 
>
>Retrieve reflector archived data via http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>
>
>  
>

From ianmwilson at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 14 09:51:30 2005
From: ianmwilson at earthlink.net (Ian Wilson)
Date: Tue Jun 14 09:51:58 2005
Subject: [HBR] Parts list?
In-Reply-To: <20050613.225207.1880.7.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <001001c570e8$32741880$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>

Kees,

Thank you for sending the PDFs. I had downloaded a few, but qth.net was
overloaded part of the time.

Looking at some of the parts list, I see that the 3-gang tuning
capacitor is on there. The thing that I haven't located on the website
is the 'coil table', that includes the values for C1, C2, C3. The other
capacitors that say "see text" are all coupling capacitors, I imagine a
small trimmer capacitor built as a gimmick (twisted wire pair)?

73, ian K3IMW




From Carl.Nord at etest.com  Tue Jun 14 00:16:00 2005
From: Carl.Nord at etest.com (Nord, Carl)
Date: Wed Jun 15 08:55:01 2005
Subject: [HBR] Parts list?
Message-ID: <FDFE90FEC54D3A45BE072142C7CBC51402A9A87A@corp-exch2.etest.com>

Please send me one
Thanks

Carl H. Nord
Vice President Decentralized Operations
Environmental Systems Products
1-860-392-2174


-----Original Message-----
From: rob <roomberg@ptd.net>
To: HBR Receiver List <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon Jun 13 21:15:39 2005
Subject: Re: [HBR] Parts list?

YES   Rob KB3BYT
mailto:roomberg@ptd.net



windy10605@juno.com wrote:

>I can send you the schematics file off the CD which has all the HBR
>schematics in PDF format 566KB. Anybody else want a copy ?
>
>73, Kees K5BCQ
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
>there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
> 
>
>Retrieve reflector archived data via
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>
>
>  
>

************************************
Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
 

Retrieve reflector archived data via
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From kjlopez at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 15 19:10:04 2005
From: kjlopez at earthlink.net (Kenneth Lopez)
Date: Wed Jun 15 19:10:25 2005
Subject: [HBR] Parts list?
In-Reply-To: <FDFE90FEC54D3A45BE072142C7CBC51402A9A87A@corp-exch2.etest.com>
References: <FDFE90FEC54D3A45BE072142C7CBC51402A9A87A@corp-exch2.etest.com>
Message-ID: <2b5ab329cd6c99ed0ee59ce60aab2f40@earthlink.net>

Yes, I would like one too, please!

Cheers,

Ken N6TZV

On Jun 13, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Nord, Carl wrote:

> Please send me one
> Thanks
>
> Carl H. Nord
> Vice President Decentralized Operations
> Environmental Systems Products
> 1-860-392-2174
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob <roomberg@ptd.net>
> To: HBR Receiver List <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Mon Jun 13 21:15:39 2005
> Subject: Re: [HBR] Parts list?
>
> YES   Rob KB3BYT
> mailto:roomberg@ptd.net
>
>
>
> windy10605@juno.com wrote:
>
>> I can send you the schematics file off the CD which has all the HBR
>> schematics in PDF format 566KB. Anybody else want a copy ?
>>
>> 73, Kees K5BCQ
>> ************************************
>> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers 
>> and
>> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>> there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
>>
>>
>> Retrieve reflector archived data via
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
>
>
> Retrieve reflector archived data via
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>
>
>
> *************************
> This message has been scanned at the ESP Internet gateway in Tucson.
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
>
>
> Retrieve reflector archived data via 
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>

From ianmwilson at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 15 19:40:07 2005
From: ianmwilson at earthlink.net (Ian Wilson)
Date: Wed Jun 15 19:40:55 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
In-Reply-To: <2b5ab329cd6c99ed0ee59ce60aab2f40@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003701c57203$9751dc80$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>

Been looking through my air-variable capacitor collection.

All the ganged capacitors that I have are considerably higher in value
than what the BHR would like.
So I took a look at reducing capacitor value.

Using a single series capacitor doesn't work too well, since the nice
square law that the original capacitor has is lost, and most of the
variation is squashed into the low-C end of the variation.

I have been playing with a 3-capacitor arrangement: the first in series
with the variable, the second in parallel with that combination, the
third in series again. Thought that would get me some degrees of
freedom; however, doing a curve fit didn't get me a very good result.

Any sages out there have advice on how to reduce the variable's value
(without removing vanes!), and still getting a useful
capacitance-versus-rotation curve?

73, ian K3IMW




From windy10605 at juno.com  Wed Jun 15 19:47:26 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jun 15 19:52:57 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
Message-ID: <20050615.185128.2236.9.windy10605@juno.com>

What you want to look for is an "FM Tuning Capacitor". There were some
vendors selling these not too long ago, real close to what is called out 
...Ocean State ? or some other surplus house. Several people bought some.

73 Kees K5BCQ
From hbrnut at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 15 20:31:11 2005
From: hbrnut at earthlink.net (Darrell, WA5VGO)
Date: Wed Jun 15 20:31:35 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
In-Reply-To: <20050615.185128.2236.9.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20050615193024.00bb0910@mail.earthlink.net>

Ocean State has them for $10.

73,
Darrell, WA5VGO



At 06:47 PM 6/15/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>What you want to look for is an "FM Tuning Capacitor". There were some
>vendors selling these not too long ago, real close to what is called out
>...Ocean State ? or some other surplus house. Several people bought some.
>
>73 Kees K5BCQ
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
>
>
>Retrieve reflector archived data via 
>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr



From ianmwilson at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 15 20:43:16 2005
From: ianmwilson at earthlink.net (Ian Wilson)
Date: Wed Jun 15 20:43:56 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20050615193024.00bb0910@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003a01c5720c$65efb730$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>

That must be BC5G 5-ganger. I don't think I can resist that...

Thanks!

--ian, K3IMW




From daileyservices at qwest.net  Thu Jun 16 12:29:03 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Thu Jun 16 12:31:59 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
References: <003701c57203$9751dc80$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>
Message-ID: <004701c57290$823e3860$6502a8c0@dailey>

Ian,

You're overcomplicating the process.  When I needed a 75pf APC for one of my
coils, all I could dig up were some 100's.  I simply took a small ruler..
measured the length of the cap's plates (total length)... counted the plates
for insurance...

then simply cut the sucker to 3/4 length.  It came out to about 80pf, but
that was close enough for my purposes.

Stuck it in an it worked great.  Hammers n' Hacksaws, buddy.... they're a
part of electronics, too.

Tom
WA?EAJ

PS - Counting the plates gave me another way to determine what I was looking
for... if ya' got 15 plates, and ya' want 75% of that... just hack off 4
plates, and you'll be pretty close.

From daileyservices at qwest.net  Thu Jun 16 12:30:00 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Thu Jun 16 12:32:49 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
References: <5.2.0.9.2.20050615193024.00bb0910@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005301c57290$a48d2de0$6502a8c0@dailey>

Ian,

Whoops... didn't realize you were after the main tuning cap... Ocean State
is the place to go...

From johnmb at nc.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 17:55:13 2005
From: johnmb at nc.rr.com (john)
Date: Thu Jun 16 17:55:16 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
In-Reply-To: <004701c57290$823e3860$6502a8c0@dailey>
References: <003701c57203$9751dc80$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>
	<004701c57290$823e3860$6502a8c0@dailey>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050616175424.02b37070@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

There's a much easier way that doesn't involve hacking up a variable.
Just put in some series capacitance until you've gut the value you need.

No hacking required.

John K5MO



At 12:29 PM 6/16/2005, TC Dailey wrote:
>Ian,
>
>You're overcomplicating the process.  When I needed a 75pf APC for one of my
>coils, all I could dig up were some 100's.  I simply took a small ruler..
>measured the length of the cap's plates (total length)... counted the plates
>for insurance...
>
>then simply cut the sucker to 3/4 length.  It came out to about 80pf, but
>that was close enough for my purposes.
>
>Stuck it in an it worked great.  Hammers n' Hacksaws, buddy.... they're a
>part of electronics, too.
>
>Tom
>WA?EAJ
>
>PS - Counting the plates gave me another way to determine what I was looking
>for... if ya' got 15 plates, and ya' want 75% of that... just hack off 4
>plates, and you'll be pretty close.
>
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
>
>
>Retrieve reflector archived data via 
>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>
>
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From hugo at optonline.net  Thu Jun 16 18:23:02 2005
From: hugo at optonline.net (Hugo W. Catta)
Date: Thu Jun 16 18:23:45 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050616175424.02b37070@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
References: <003701c57203$9751dc80$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>
	<004701c57290$823e3860$6502a8c0@dailey>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20050616175424.02b37070@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <42B1FBC6.9010700@optonline.net>

john wrote:

> There's a much easier way that doesn't involve hacking up a variable.
> Just put in some series capacitance until you've gut the value you need.
>
> No hacking required.
>
> John K5MO
>
>
"Q" and stability (mechanical and thermal) may be compromised, if you do 
that.
.....or you may get lucky.

Hugo
AA1XV

From daileyservices at qwest.net  Thu Jun 16 19:02:12 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Thu Jun 16 19:05:10 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
References: <003701c57203$9751dc80$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan><004701c57290$823e3860$6502a8c0@dailey><6.2.1.2.2.20050616175424.02b37070@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
	<42B1FBC6.9010700@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <004001c572c7$6ea6a300$6502a8c0@dailey>

great... IF you have the room


>
> > There's a much easier way that doesn't involve hacking up a variable.
> > Just put in some series capacitance until you've gut the value you need.

From daileyservices at qwest.net  Thu Jun 16 19:03:40 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Thu Jun 16 19:06:37 2005
Subject: [HBR] hacking up variables
References: <42ECC21B33DFF245BAFAF57274BA5CE50342700F@stpmse04.stp.guidant.com><00ed01c53b89$eeb31800$6602a8c0@dailey>
	<ba8811f2efb0f56ad89ef9e94eeb088a@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <004e01c572c7$a3080f80$6502a8c0@dailey>

'scuse me... but are ya' gonna USE the variable cap or are ya' gonna' just
put it in a nice box an save it?

From future212 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 16 19:36:42 2005
From: future212 at comcast.net (DW Holtman)
Date: Thu Jun 16 19:37:20 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
References: <003701c57203$9751dc80$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan><004701c57290$823e3860$6502a8c0@dailey><6.2.1.2.2.20050616175424.02b37070@pop-server.nc.rr.com><42B1FBC6.9010700@optonline.net>
	<004001c572c7$6ea6a300$6502a8c0@dailey>
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You are probably looking for a few PF's. A silver mica cap can be wired into 
a pretty tight space with short leads.

73's
DW Holtman
WB7SSN
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TC Dailey" <daileyservices@qwest.net>
To: "HBR Receiver List" <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values


> great... IF you have the room
>
>
>>
>> > There's a much easier way that doesn't involve hacking up a variable.
>> > Just put in some series capacitance until you've gut the value you 
>> > need.
>
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From hbrnut at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 16 21:03:56 2005
From: hbrnut at earthlink.net (Darrell, WA5VGO)
Date: Thu Jun 16 21:04:29 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
In-Reply-To: <000e01c572cc$41451b30$61c3b643@dw2q2am1a08eq5>
References: <003701c57203$9751dc80$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>
	<004701c57290$823e3860$6502a8c0@dailey>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20050616175424.02b37070@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
	<42B1FBC6.9010700@optonline.net>
	<004001c572c7$6ea6a300$6502a8c0@dailey>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20050616200205.00bbcb90@mail.earthlink.net>

A series capacitor is okay if you aren't looking for a linear response. It 
wouldn't be a good choice for the main tuning cap on a receiver.

73,
Darrell, WA5VGO






From ianmwilson at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 16 21:19:21 2005
From: ianmwilson at earthlink.net (Ian Wilson)
Date: Thu Jun 16 21:20:13 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20050616200205.00bbcb90@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000001c572da$9b88adb0$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>

Right. I started this thread because I have a 3-gang capacitor that I
thought might serve as the main tuning capacitor, if I could reduce its
value. Looking at the response that I get with a series capacitor, or
even a series/parallel/series combination, most of the variation is
compressed into a fairly small angle of operation.

73, ian K3IMW

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hbr-bounces@mailman.qth.net [mailto:hbr-bounces@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Darrell, WA5VGO
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:04 PM
> To: HBR Receiver List
> Subject: Re: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
> 
> A series capacitor is okay if you aren't looking for a linear
response. It
> wouldn't be a good choice for the main tuning cap on a receiver.
> 
> 73,
> Darrell, WA5VGO
> 
> 
> 



From daileyservices at qwest.net  Sat Jun 18 19:07:29 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Sat Jun 18 19:14:47 2005
Subject: [HBR] Reducing variable cap values
References: <000001c572da$9b88adb0$6802a8c0@TrabucoIan>
Message-ID: <00b901c5745b$0fbcbb00$6502a8c0@dailey>

For what it's worth, I have a copy of the ORIGINAL spec sheet on the
specified cap...  I could FAX it... no scanner, here.

TCD

From nielwiegand at aggienetwork.com  Sun Jun 19 13:38:45 2005
From: nielwiegand at aggienetwork.com (Niel and Beth Wiegand)
Date: Sun Jun 19 13:41:57 2005
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 / Eddystone Dial Calibration?
References: <20050619080052.76D1A859E41@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <42B5ADA5.44531572@aggienetwork.com>

I'm reworking Morry Weinschenker's (K3DPJ) "barn" HBR-16 (
http://www.io.com/~nielw/hbr16/index.html ). This receiver has the
Eddystone dial. The design includes a crystal calibrator but I see no
provision to tweek the calibration point from the front panel. Is
something built into the Eddystone dial that I missed or is the HBR-16 /
Eddystone Dial calibrator for initial alignment only?

73,
Niel - W0VLZ
http://www.io.com/~nielw/wa5vlz.htm
From hbrnut at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 19 15:11:18 2005
From: hbrnut at earthlink.net (Darrell, WA5VGO)
Date: Sun Jun 19 15:12:23 2005
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 / Eddystone Dial Calibration?
In-Reply-To: <42B5ADA5.44531572@aggienetwork.com>
References: <20050619080052.76D1A859E41@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20050619140856.00bb57a8@mail.earthlink.net>

The HBR-16 is suppose to have a dial set capacitor (C-10 on the schematic). 
This was eliminated on later model HBR's. The Eddystone dial doesn't have a 
dial set adjustment.

73,
Darrell, WA5VGO




At 12:38 PM 6/19/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm reworking Morry Weinschenker's (K3DPJ) "barn" HBR-16 (
>http://www.io.com/~nielw/hbr16/index.html ). This receiver has the
>Eddystone dial. The design includes a crystal calibrator but I see no
>provision to tweek the calibration point from the front panel. Is
>something built into the Eddystone dial that I missed or is the HBR-16 /
>Eddystone Dial calibrator for initial alignment only?
>
>73,
>Niel - W0VLZ
>http://www.io.com/~nielw/wa5vlz.htm
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
>
>
>Retrieve reflector archived data via 
>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr



From nielwiegand at aggienetwork.com  Sun Jun 19 15:26:31 2005
From: nielwiegand at aggienetwork.com (Niel and Beth Wiegand)
Date: Sun Jun 19 15:27:39 2005
Subject: [HBR] D Hoffman W0FGV?
Message-ID: <42B5C6E7.A812E11E@aggienetwork.com>

My "barn" HBR-16  is signed by "D Hoffman W0FGV".  Does this name/call
ring a bell with anyone? Is there a 60s callbook out there that someone
could look him up for me? The call is no longer active so I assume a SK.

tnx es 73,
Niel - W0VLZ
From daileyservices at qwest.net  Sun Jun 19 15:29:39 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Sun Jun 19 15:33:12 2005
Subject: [HBR] Dial Calibration?
References: <20050619080052.76D1A859E41@mailman.qth.net>
	<5.2.0.9.2.20050619140856.00bb57a8@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000f01c57505$3c426e40$6502a8c0@dailey>

On my HBR-11, I found that the xtal. was a tad off, so installed a padder
cap in the "Novice" fashion... worked swell... netted right in on zero.
It's kinda' one of those "set-it-once-and-leave-it-alone" kind of things.

Tom - WA?EAJ

From windy10605 at juno.com  Sun Jun 19 16:21:04 2005
From: windy10605 at juno.com (windy10605@juno.com)
Date: Sun Jun 19 16:24:51 2005
Subject: Fw: [HBR] HBR-16 / Eddystone Dial Calibration?
Message-ID: <20050619.152207.2236.2.windy10605@juno.com>

Niel,

Yes, I remember those mouse nest pictures..........

Great looking HBR project Niel, be sure and keep everyone posted on your
progress. 

On your other question, yes, the CD is constantly updated but does not
have the layout drawings. Lots of other stuff like RC kits, etc are also
on it. I do have large size layout drawings available but they are
difficult to copy due to the size. I suppose one of the local copy places
can do that.  Does anyone have the capability to make .pdf files of these
and allow dimensionally accurate printed copies to be made locally ? It
would be nice to add that data to the CD also.

73 Kees K5BCQ


--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Niel and Beth Wiegand <nielwiegand@aggienetwork.com>
To: hbr@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:38:45 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR-16 / Eddystone Dial Calibration?
Message-ID: <42B5ADA5.44531572@aggienetwork.com>
References: <20050619080052.76D1A859E41@mailman.qth.net>

I'm reworking Morry Weinschenker's (K3DPJ) "barn" HBR-16 (
http://www.io.com/~nielw/hbr16/index.html ). This receiver has the
Eddystone dial. The design includes a crystal calibrator but I see no
provision to tweek the calibration point from the front panel. Is
something built into the Eddystone dial that I missed or is the HBR-16 /
Eddystone Dial calibrator for initial alignment only?

73,
Niel - W0VLZ
http://www.io.com/~nielw/wa5vlz.htm
************************************
Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/


Retrieve reflector archived data via
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
From hbrnut at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 19 17:14:20 2005
From: hbrnut at earthlink.net (Darrell, WA5VGO)
Date: Sun Jun 19 17:15:22 2005
Subject: [HBR] D Hoffman W0FGV?
In-Reply-To: <42B5C6E7.A812E11E@aggienetwork.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20050619161058.00bb5078@mail.earthlink.net>

 From the Spring 1963 CallBook:

W?FGV
David H. Hoffman
108 S. Orchard St.
Northfield, Minn.


73,
Darrell, WA5VGO


At 02:26 PM 6/19/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>My "barn" HBR-16  is signed by "D Hoffman W0FGV".  Does this name/call
>ring a bell with anyone? Is there a 60s callbook out there that someone
>could look him up for me? The call is no longer active so I assume a SK.
>
>tnx es 73,
>Niel - W0VLZ
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>there is also a mirror (faster response)at http://k5bcq.edebris.com/
>
>
>Retrieve reflector archived data via 
>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr



From daileyservices at qwest.net  Sun Jun 19 19:30:15 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Sun Jun 19 19:33:47 2005
Subject: [HBR] D Hoffman W0FGV?
References: <5.2.0.9.2.20050619161058.00bb5078@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001f01c57526$d95105e0$6502a8c0@dailey>

Darrell,

As long as you have it... do you show KN?JLP or better yet... K?JLP?  He was
a HS classmate, now an SK... I always wondered if he got his GENERAL or not.

Tom - WA?EAJ

(I'm a new GENERAL in '63 - around Feb or March, as I recall)


From daileyservices at qwest.net  Sun Jun 19 19:33:27 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Sun Jun 19 19:36:57 2005
Subject: [HBR] HBR big copies
References: <20050619.152207.2236.2.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <002501c57527$4b67df00$6502a8c0@dailey>

Kees,

My lodge brother runs a business in large-scale digitizing & scanning... how
big are the originals, and such... I'll ask him... he is G8YQD/W8YQD... here
in Denver.

Tom Dailey - WA?EAJ

From hbrnut at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 19 19:54:13 2005
From: hbrnut at earthlink.net (Darrell, WA5VGO)
Date: Sun Jun 19 19:55:12 2005
Subject: [HBR] D Hoffman W0FGV?
In-Reply-To: <001f01c57526$d95105e0$6502a8c0@dailey>
References: <5.2.0.9.2.20050619161058.00bb5078@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20050619184835.00bb0668@mail.earthlink.net>

K?JLP
Edward C. Odell
5842 Elmonte Dr.
Mission, Kans.


WN?EAJ
Thomas C. Dailey
8121 W. 71st St.
Overland Park, Kans.

73,
Darrell, WA5VGO




At 05:30 PM 6/19/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>Darrell,
>
>As long as you have it... do you show KN?JLP or better yet... K?JLP?  He was
>a HS classmate, now an SK... I always wondered if he got his GENERAL or not.
>
>Tom - WA?EAJ
>
>(I'm a new GENERAL in '63 - around Feb or March, as I recall)



From waltah at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 19 22:13:00 2005
From: waltah at earthlink.net (waltah@earthlink.net)
Date: Sun Jun 19 22:17:02 2005
Subject: Fw: [HBR] HBR-16 / Eddystone Dial Calibration?
In-Reply-To: <20050619.152207.2236.2.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <42B5EDEC.28178.1AE41C3@localhost>

Niel, W0VLZ wrote:
> The design includes a crystal calibrator but I see no
> provision to tweek the calibration point from the front panel. Is
> something built into the Eddystone dial that I missed or is the HBR-16 /
> Eddystone Dial calibrator for initial alignment only?

I seem to remember that the 'press' on this control was that it lead 
to more drift than it was worth.   

While it's true that these receivers will generally be off by 1 kcs or 
so on 80, and several times that on higher bands (which might be 
corrected with a front panel calibration adjustment), the dials can't 
be read that closely anyway.   You can't even get close with the 
5:1 National dial used on many of them and even the best of the 
lot, the Eddystone, can't be *read* to a kcs.   So it was a feature of 
limited value which at least some people thought caused a 
problem; I can imagine it was often omitted.

I did install one on the 1MHBR and it seems both okay drift-wise 
and slightly useful.   But at best, no more than a matter of taste.

I don't know that I'd even call the calibrator essential, except, 
possibly, on 20 and above.   You need one to mark the dial but 
after that, you just check and correct coils at the six month mark 
or so, and it can be forgotten.

Walt Hutchens
KJ4KV


From daileyservices at qwest.net  Mon Jun 20 01:01:39 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Mon Jun 20 01:05:13 2005
Subject: Fw: [HBR] HBR-16 / Eddystone Dial Calibration?
References: <42B5EDEC.28178.1AE41C3@localhost>
Message-ID: <001b01c57555$25148960$6502a8c0@dailey>

I agree with all the commentary about the calibrator necessity....

One must consider however, that back in '64 and such... as a Novice, we were
xtal controlled, and if using some of the OLDER Texas xtals, or grinding
your own on a piece of glass with some Bon Ami... you needed to know where
the BOTTOM of YOUR band was... thus the calibrator.  7.100 was the bottom (I
think - can't recall if it was 7.150 or 7.100 now).

These daze [sic], we have receivers/transceivers that are more exactly on
freq. than those earlier frequency STANDARDS were.

My HBR-11 has a National ACN dial, and I never did mark it up... did
graph-paper charts for each band, and go roughly from them.  Once I sprayed
the coils with clear lacquer (holds the turns still, after adjustment),
they're always on calibration when I plug 'em in.

As my old original "Elmer" put it:  "Son, it don't have to be NBC"

Tom

From daileyservices at qwest.net  Mon Jun 20 01:06:51 2005
From: daileyservices at qwest.net (TC Dailey)
Date: Mon Jun 20 01:10:31 2005
Subject: [HBR] D Hoffman W0FGV?
References: <5.2.0.9.2.20050619161058.00bb5078@mail.earthlink.net>
	<5.2.0.9.2.20050619184835.00bb0668@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003801c57555$df96d040$6502a8c0@dailey>

Tks, D'.... Eddy died in '63, and was my best buddy.... now I know... he DID
get it!

I feel like something just got quiet and peaceful...

We belonged to W?ZLK - the club station for Shawnee-Mission High School -
Mission, KS.

73 es thanks so very much.

Tom

