From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Fri Mar  1 03:12:44 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:12:44 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Test
Message-ID: <20020228.211247.-150451.27.windy10605@juno.com>

Lets see where we are now........... the HBR site is still there,
but since my ISP "inetport.com" went belly up, you have to 
access it via my homepage (more stable) 
http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 

Anyone doing any HBR building ??

73s  Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar  2 00:58:04 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Tom Azlin)
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 19:58:04 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Test
In-Reply-To: <20020228.211247.-150451.27.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <NJ96ZXZWB90DCB08VRPZU22YKIJF.3c80239c@hertz>

Hi Kees,

Well, I'm collecting parts hoping to make an HBR receiver.  But I 
still can not access the HBR site even through the k5bcq web 
site.

73,Tom n4zpt

2/28/02 22:12:44, Sandy and Kees Talen <windy10605@juno.com> 
wrote:

>Lets see where we are now........... the HBR site is still 
there,
>but since my ISP "inetport.com" went belly up, you have to 
>access it via my homepage (more stable) 
>http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
>
>Anyone doing any HBR building ??
>
>73s  Kees K5BCQ
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of 
receivers and 
>construction notes...... 
>via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
_______________________________________________
>HBR mailing list
>HBR@mailman.qth.net
>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>




From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar  2 01:36:12 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Darrell & Kay Brooks)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 19:36:12 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Test
Message-ID: <000401c1c18a$a3722920$51be8540@lgwujvnl>

Ditto here. I haven't been able to access it directly or through the link
for several weeks.

Regards,
Darrell, WA5VGO




>Hi Kees,
>
>Well, I'm collecting parts hoping to make an HBR receiver.  But I
>still can not access the HBR site even through the k5bcq web
>site.
>
>73,Tom n4zpt
>
>2/28/02 22:12:44, Sandy and Kees Talen <windy10605@juno.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Lets see where we are now........... the HBR site is still
>there,
>>but since my ISP "inetport.com" went belly up, you have to
>>access it via my homepage (more stable)
>>http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>>
>>Anyone doing any HBR building ??
>>
>>73s  Kees K5BCQ
>>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of
>receivers and
>>construction notes......
>>via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>_______________________________________________
>>HBR mailing list
>>HBR@mailman.qth.net
>>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
>HBR mailing list
>HBR@mailman.qth.net
>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar  2 02:08:13 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 20:08:13 -0600
Subject: [HBR] HBR site should be OK now
Message-ID: <20020301.200819.-210909.10.windy10605@juno.com>

Try it again guys, the HBR and SB-104 sites ended up with
the old address ....both were inoperative. Murphy strikes again. 

try it throught the link
http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/

73s  Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar  3 02:26:43 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 20:26:43 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Some pictures not available
Message-ID: <20020302.202647.-297613.1.windy10605@juno.com>

The picture links using "Homestead...." at the end of the HBR web 
site are no longer active (price of progress, as they now want money).
All the pictures and data links using "QSL.net" (Alan Waller's site)
are good and it will take me some time to recreate/move all the data 
and pictures over to "QSL.net". I don't want to use the other "free"
sites like Geocities because of the annoying advertising blitz.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

73s  Kees K5BCQ 

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Wed Mar  6 00:11:47 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Darrell & Kay Brooks)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:11:47 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Test
Message-ID: <000601c1c4a3$82a43f00$80b78540@lgwujvnl>

So tell us about it.

Regards,
Darrell,WA5VGO




>Yes  Jerry Rego  KE7YG


>> Anyone doing any HBR building ??
>>
>> 73s  Kees K5BCQ



From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Wed Mar  6 14:21:47 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (William L. Hopkins)
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:21:47 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Test
References: <000601c1c4a3$82a43f00$80b78540@lgwujvnl>
Message-ID: <02Mar6.092747est.119207@gateway.naz.edu>

Hello All,

Bill Hopkins here, AA2YV in Rochester NY.  I have been collecting some
parts from several of you over the last two years.  Since I teach during
the winter, my only time to build is in the summer.  I hope to begin
working on the rig this summer.  That means I will be sending out lots of
SOS's to you as I go.  My trouble will be that I do not have much test
equipment to test out certain circuits as I build them.  I would love to
have an oscilliscope.  I saw one at the Buffalo hamfest last week for 10
dollars. It went only up to 5 MhZ.  Guess I should have picked it up
anyway.
What I will need is a set of hole cutting tools.  Where could I get some
that would not cost me an arm and a leg?

73's bill


Darrell & Kay Brooks wrote:

> So tell us about it.
>
> Regards,
> Darrell,WA5VGO
>
> >Yes  Jerry Rego  KE7YG
>
> >> Anyone doing any HBR building ??
> >>
> >> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr

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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Wed Mar  6 14:51:59 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:51:59 -0600
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Test
Message-ID: <20020306.085203.-150149.3.windy10605@juno.com>

Yep, you should have picked up the $10 scope if it worked, but 
there are usually plenty of older ones which show up at swapmeets 
at reasonable prices. Make sure you have a good DVM or VTVM. 
There is a little yellow DVM at Harbor Freight for less than $10 
which works fine.

Hole punches are difficult to find, especially Greenlee which people
are very proud of, according to the prices they ask. Lafayette also
sold a set of perfectly good (for aluminum) punches in a small 
carrying case which should be much less expensive. With all the 
coil winders showing up on e-Bay, you would think there would be 
some cheaper chassis punch sets.

I think I've gotten two people in the Williamson county ARC started
on building a HBR Receiver with 85Khz IFs, etc. I also have a 
Boonton 160-A Q meter for parts ...good power transformer, lots
of spring loaded no backlash gears on 1/4" shafts, etc. if anyone 
thinks they can use soem parts.

73s  Kees K5BCQ


--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "William L. Hopkins" <wlhopkin@naz.edu>
To: hbr@mailman.qth.net
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:21:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [HBR] Test
Message-ID: <02Mar6.092747est.119207@gateway.naz.edu>
References: <000601c1c4a3$82a43f00$80b78540@lgwujvnl>

Hello All,

Bill Hopkins here, AA2YV in Rochester NY.  I have been collecting some
parts from several of you over the last two years.  Since I teach during
the winter, my only time to build is in the summer.  I hope to begin
working on the rig this summer.  That means I will be sending out lots of
SOS's to you as I go.  My trouble will be that I do not have much test
equipment to test out certain circuits as I build them.  I would love to
have an oscilliscope.  I saw one at the Buffalo hamfest last week for 10
dollars. It went only up to 5 MhZ.  Guess I should have picked it up
anyway.
What I will need is a set of hole cutting tools.  Where could I get some
that would not cost me an arm and a leg?

73's bill


Darrell & Kay Brooks wrote:

> So tell us about it.
>
> Regards,
> Darrell,WA5VGO
>
> >Yes  Jerry Rego  KE7YG
>
> >> Anyone doing any HBR building ??
> >>
> >> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr

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************************************
Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 

HBR mailing list
HBR@mailman.qth.net
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Wed Mar  6 15:16:42 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:16:42 -0600
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Test
Message-ID: <20020306.091648.-150149.4.windy10605@juno.com>

Some additional information on cutting holes.......I have seen holes 
cut in a chassis (upside down) with a fine tooth 1/16" blade in a jig 
saw but would think that to be difficult. I have used the old technique 
of drilling numerous holes just inside the perimeter and using a 
large reamer from Sears to smooth it out (or a file) ....but requires
access to a good drill press and the hole is not that clean. Also 
have used an adjustable circle cutter bit which worked out quite 
well, but definitely requires a drill press with variable speed. 

Most of the time I borrowed chassis punches.

Maybe there are some other ideas out there ??

73s  Kees K5BCQ


--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "William L. Hopkins" <wlhopkin@naz.edu>
To: hbr@mailman.qth.net
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:21:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [HBR] Test
Message-ID: <02Mar6.092747est.119207@gateway.naz.edu>
References: <000601c1c4a3$82a43f00$80b78540@lgwujvnl>

Hello All,

Bill Hopkins here, AA2YV in Rochester NY.  I have been collecting some
parts from several of you over the last two years.  Since I teach during
the winter, my only time to build is in the summer.  I hope to begin
working on the rig this summer.  That means I will be sending out lots of
SOS's to you as I go.  My trouble will be that I do not have much test
equipment to test out certain circuits as I build them.  I would love to
have an oscilliscope.  I saw one at the Buffalo hamfest last week for 10
dollars. It went only up to 5 MhZ.  Guess I should have picked it up
anyway.
What I will need is a set of hole cutting tools.  Where could I get some
that would not cost me an arm and a leg?

73's bill


Darrell & Kay Brooks wrote:

> So tell us about it.
>
> Regards,
> Darrell,WA5VGO
>
> >Yes  Jerry Rego  KE7YG
>
> >> Anyone doing any HBR building ??
> >>
> >> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr

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************************************
Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 

HBR mailing list
HBR@mailman.qth.net
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Wed Mar  6 15:31:02 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Mike Feher)
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 10:31:02 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Test
References: <20020306.091648.-150149.4.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <005301c1c523$ed8db960$d2775243@n4fs>

It is amazing what can be done when you only know a little bit. In the early
60's I built an HBR-13 as well as an HBR-16, while still in High School. The
only test equipment I had available to me of any consequence at all were
also built by me. Guess, what. Both receivers worked great on all bands.
Now, armed with degrees, 40 years of experience, and a load of HP and other
test equipment on my bench, If I were to build one now, it would probably
take forever, making sure everything was just right. BTW, back then Greenlee
punches were affordable even for a kid. Is technology not wonderful, HI.
73 - Mike



Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell NJ, 07731
(732) 901-9193




From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Wed Mar  6 22:27:42 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Michael Hanz)
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 17:27:42 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Test, morphed into hole cutting tools
References: <000601c1c4a3$82a43f00$80b78540@lgwujvnl> <02Mar6.092747est.119207@gateway.naz.edu>
Message-ID: <3C8697DE.63887410@erols.com>

"William L. Hopkins" wrote:
> 
> What I will need is a set of hole cutting tools.  Where could I get some
> that would not cost me an arm and a leg?

No free lunch when it comes to cutting metal, but the least expensive
option per hole size is a Unibit.  See
http://www.unibitstepdrill.com/pi/toolsrch.asp for the range of these
tools.  With two step drills you can cover up to 1.375", and even the
largest can be handled in a hand drill if you have one with a capacity
of 1/2".  I use them all the time in a big Bridgeport milling machine
because they're fast and accurate.

Best 73,
Mike

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 02:46:07 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (john)
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 21:46:07 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Test
In-Reply-To: <001f01c0a6ac$adac2660$127cf7a5@amd450>
References: <000601c1c4a3$82a43f00$80b78540@lgwujvnl>
 <02Mar6.092747est.119207@gateway.naz.edu>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20020306214607.0150fd20@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

Bill, 
A step bit is a good deal. Costs about $25 for a decent one, but with it
you'll be able to cut nice holes over a large range of diameters. 
Check Harbor Freight or some such, if you're only going to be doing occasional
jobs with Aluminum chassis. If you're going to go for it, Klein makes some
nice ones!
73
John


At 09:16 PM 3/6/01 -0500, Jerry Rego wrote:
>Bill,
>hope your  not an English teacher.  I Use an adjustable of spade bits and a
>block of wood behind the stock.  Feed the drill bit in very slowly so the
>bit will not grab the stock.  I drill press will be the tool of choice of
>drilling tools, and if you can find an adjustable hole bit that will give
>you a better cut.  Also there are many hole cutters like you use to cut
>holes in doors to mount a door knob - the are made by Black & Decker and
>other.  They come in various sizes in 1/8th inches increments. OR look in
>the Granger Catalog page 1153  -  do not get sticker shocked.  My best
>regards - ARS KE7YG  Jerry Rego  (Please respond)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: William L. Hopkins <wlhopkin@naz.edu>
>To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:21 AM
>Subject: Re: [HBR] Test
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Bill Hopkins here, AA2YV in Rochester NY.  I have been collecting some
>> parts from several of you over the last two years.  Since I teach during
>> the winter, my only time to build is in the summer.  I hope to begin
>> working on the rig this summer.  That means I will be sending out lots of
>> SOS's to you as I go.  My trouble will be that I do not have much test
>> equipment to test out certain circuits as I build them.  I would love to
>> have an oscilliscope.  I saw one at the Buffalo hamfest last week for 10
>> dollars. It went only up to 5 MhZ.  Guess I should have picked it up
>> anyway.
>> What I will need is a set of hole cutting tools.  Where could I get some
>> that would not cost me an arm and a leg?
>>
>> 73's bill
>>
>>
>> Darrell & Kay Brooks wrote:
>>
>> > So tell us about it.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Darrell,WA5VGO
>> >
>> > >Yes  Jerry Rego  KE7YG
>> >
>> > >> Anyone doing any HBR building ??
>> > >>
>> > >> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>> >
>> > ************************************
>> > Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>> > construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>> >
>> > HBR mailing list
>> > HBR@mailman.qth.net
>> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>>
>> --
>> For Study-Abroad Website in Berlin, click on:
>>    http://www.studienforum-berlin.de
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> ************************************
>> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>>
>> HBR mailing list
>> HBR@mailman.qth.net
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>
>
>
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
>
>HBR mailing list
>HBR@mailman.qth.net
>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 12:15:41 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Bob Duckworth, WB4MNF)
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:15:41 -0500
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Test
References: <20020306.085203.-150149.3.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3C8759ED.6050500@atl.org>

Hole making.
Center punch.
Some drill bits.
Step drill.
Ream! One can't make round holes without a ream.
Nibbling tool.
Files.

I share warehouse space with a machine shop.
You'd be surprised at how much hand work goes
into a nicely finished part.

-bob


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 14:34:52 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:34:52 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Test
Message-ID: <20020307.083458.-313567.1.windy10605@juno.com>


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 17:19:05 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (William L. Hopkins)
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 12:19:05 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Test, morphed into hole cutting tools
References: <000601c1c4a3$82a43f00$80b78540@lgwujvnl> <02Mar6.092747est.119207@gateway.naz.edu> <3C8697DE.63887410@erols.com>
Message-ID: <02Mar7.122506est.119132@gateway.naz.edu>

Mike,

Thanks for the advice.

ciao
bill hopkins
AA2YV
rochester ny


Michael Hanz wrote:

> "William L. Hopkins" wrote:
> >
> > What I will need is a set of hole cutting tools.  Where could I get some
> > that would not cost me an arm and a leg?
>
> No free lunch when it comes to cutting metal, but the least expensive
> option per hole size is a Unibit.  See
> http://www.unibitstepdrill.com/pi/toolsrch.asp for the range of these
> tools.  With two step drills you can cover up to 1.375", and even the
> largest can be handled in a hand drill if you have one with a capacity
> of 1/2".  I use them all the time in a big Bridgeport milling machine
> because they're fast and accurate.
>
> Best 73,
> Mike
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr

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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 17:24:54 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (William L. Hopkins)
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 12:24:54 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Test
References: <000601c1c4a3$82a43f00$80b78540@lgwujvnl>
 <02Mar6.092747est.119207@gateway.naz.edu> <3.0.3.32.20020306214607.0150fd20@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <02Mar7.123054est.119132@gateway.naz.edu>

John,

Thanks for the good information.

ciao
bill hopkins
AA2YV
rochester ny


john wrote:

> Bill,
> A step bit is a good deal. Costs about $25 for a decent one, but with it
> you'll be able to cut nice holes over a large range of diameters.
> Check Harbor Freight or some such, if you're only going to be doing occasional
> jobs with Aluminum chassis. If you're going to go for it, Klein makes some
> nice ones!
> 73
> John
>
> At 09:16 PM 3/6/01 -0500, Jerry Rego wrote:
> >Bill,
> >hope your  not an English teacher.  I Use an adjustable of spade bits and a
> >block of wood behind the stock.  Feed the drill bit in very slowly so the
> >bit will not grab the stock.  I drill press will be the tool of choice of
> >drilling tools, and if you can find an adjustable hole bit that will give
> >you a better cut.  Also there are many hole cutters like you use to cut
> >holes in doors to mount a door knob - the are made by Black & Decker and
> >other.  They come in various sizes in 1/8th inches increments. OR look in
> >the Granger Catalog page 1153  -  do not get sticker shocked.  My best
> >regards - ARS KE7YG  Jerry Rego  (Please respond)
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: William L. Hopkins <wlhopkin@naz.edu>
> >To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:21 AM
> >Subject: Re: [HBR] Test
> >
> >
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> Bill Hopkins here, AA2YV in Rochester NY.  I have been collecting some
> >> parts from several of you over the last two years.  Since I teach during
> >> the winter, my only time to build is in the summer.  I hope to begin
> >> working on the rig this summer.  That means I will be sending out lots of
> >> SOS's to you as I go.  My trouble will be that I do not have much test
> >> equipment to test out certain circuits as I build them.  I would love to
> >> have an oscilliscope.  I saw one at the Buffalo hamfest last week for 10
> >> dollars. It went only up to 5 MhZ.  Guess I should have picked it up
> >> anyway.
> >> What I will need is a set of hole cutting tools.  Where could I get some
> >> that would not cost me an arm and a leg?
> >>
> >> 73's bill
> >>
> >>
> >> Darrell & Kay Brooks wrote:
> >>
> >> > So tell us about it.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Darrell,WA5VGO
> >> >
> >> > >Yes  Jerry Rego  KE7YG
> >> >
> >> > >> Anyone doing any HBR building ??
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
> >> >
> >> > ************************************
> >> > Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> >> > construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >> >
> >> > HBR mailing list
> >> > HBR@mailman.qth.net
> >> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >>
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> >>    http://www.studienforum-berlin.de
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> >> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >>
> >> HBR mailing list
> >> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >************************************
> >Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> >construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >
> >HBR mailing list
> >HBR@mailman.qth.net
> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >
>
> ************************************
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> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 17:39:28 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (William L. Hopkins)
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 12:39:28 -0500
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Test
References: <20020306.085203.-150149.3.windy10605@juno.com> <3C8759ED.6050500@atl.org>
Message-ID: <02Mar7.124530est.119230@gateway.naz.edu>

thanks Bob.  Very terse, to the point and helpful.

ciao
bill hopkins
AA2YV


"Bob Duckworth, WB4MNF" wrote:

> Hole making.
> Center punch.
> Some drill bits.
> Step drill.
> Ream! One can't make round holes without a ream.
> Nibbling tool.
> Files.
>
> I share warehouse space with a machine shop.
> You'd be surprised at how much hand work goes
> into a nicely finished part.
>
> -bob
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 17:50:22 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (William L. Hopkins)
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 12:50:22 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Chassis punches lack of
References: <20020306.085203.-150149.3.windy10605@juno.com> <001301c0a6a8$c4d53ec0$127cf7a5@amd450>
Message-ID: <02Mar7.125623est.119228@gateway.naz.edu>

thanks jerry.

ciao
bill hopkins
AA2YV

Jerry Rego wrote:

> Use a spade bit backed by a piece of wood 2/4 or what ever is required.  If
> you have a drill press that will cut the Al. muck cleaner.  Slowly feed the
> bit into the Al. stock to prevent grabbing.  An adjustable drill  bill is
> much better as you can use thin wood stock to adjust bit the down to a hair.
> Harbor Freight sells the hole punches for electrical work, but these will
> fit a lot of tube sockets.  CAUTION  Al. is soft and will grab sending your
> chassis for a loop de loop - take care use eye protection and gloves.  Use a
> drill vise while using  a press and the lowest speed your press can give
> you.  You can trim using a sharp knife or a counter sink for the smaller
> holes.  Hope this helps you.  My best regards es 73's jerry rego  KE7YG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sandy and Kees Talen <windy10605@juno.com>
> To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:51 AM
> Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Test
>
> > Yep, you should have picked up the $10 scope if it worked, but
> > there are usually plenty of older ones which show up at swapmeets
> > at reasonable prices. Make sure you have a good DVM or VTVM.
> > There is a little yellow DVM at Harbor Freight for less than $10
> > which works fine.
> >
> > Hole punches are difficult to find, especially Greenlee which people
> > are very proud of, according to the prices they ask. Lafayette also
> > sold a set of perfectly good (for aluminum) punches in a small
> > carrying case which should be much less expensive. With all the
> > coil winders showing up on e-Bay, you would think there would be
> > some cheaper chassis punch sets.
> >
> > I think I've gotten two people in the Williamson county ARC started
> > on building a HBR Receiver with 85Khz IFs, etc. I also have a
> > Boonton 160-A Q meter for parts ...good power transformer, lots
> > of spring loaded no backlash gears on 1/4" shafts, etc. if anyone
> > thinks they can use soem parts.
> >
> > 73s  Kees K5BCQ
> >
> >
> > --------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "William L. Hopkins" <wlhopkin@naz.edu>
> > To: hbr@mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:21:47 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [HBR] Test
> > Message-ID: <02Mar6.092747est.119207@gateway.naz.edu>
> > References: <000601c1c4a3$82a43f00$80b78540@lgwujvnl>
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Bill Hopkins here, AA2YV in Rochester NY.  I have been collecting some
> > parts from several of you over the last two years.  Since I teach during
> > the winter, my only time to build is in the summer.  I hope to begin
> > working on the rig this summer.  That means I will be sending out lots of
> > SOS's to you as I go.  My trouble will be that I do not have much test
> > equipment to test out certain circuits as I build them.  I would love to
> > have an oscilliscope.  I saw one at the Buffalo hamfest last week for 10
> > dollars. It went only up to 5 MhZ.  Guess I should have picked it up
> > anyway.
> > What I will need is a set of hole cutting tools.  Where could I get some
> > that would not cost me an arm and a leg?
> >
> > 73's bill
> >
> >
> > Darrell & Kay Brooks wrote:
> >
> > > So tell us about it.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Darrell,WA5VGO
> > >
> > > >Yes  Jerry Rego  KE7YG
> > >
> > > >> Anyone doing any HBR building ??
> > > >>
> > > >> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
> > >
> > > ************************************
> > > Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> > > construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> > >
> > > HBR mailing list
> > > HBR@mailman.qth.net
> > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >
> > --
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> >    http://www.studienforum-berlin.de
> >
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> > construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >
> > HBR mailing list
> > HBR@mailman.qth.net
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************
> > Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> > construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >
> > HBR mailing list
> > HBR@mailman.qth.net
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
> ************************************
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> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 20:27:33 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (LORNE BARBER)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:27:33 -0800
Subject: [HBR] re HBR test
Message-ID: <004301c1c616$9566b180$39bb17cf@default.sunwave.net>

Some one was asking about construction projects. While my
project is not exactly HBR, it may interest some as it will be
used with an HBR13 for an all homebrew station.
I have completed about 75% of a home brew transmitter project
which origionally appeared in the seventeenth edition of  Orr's
Radio Handbook (p 674).  I have copied it quite faithfully with
some modifications and now I am at the  testing stage.  I am
encouraged by the fact it is working up to the final stage.
The finals as origionally used are too rich for my blood so I
have replaced them with a single 6146 making use of  a
multiband matching system, eliminating band switching in this
section. The plans are to drive my 20 year pr 811's with it.
I have opted to use a HP23 power supply rather than the version
described.
A  VOX system and CW side tone have been added. A different VFO
has been used in order to take advantage of the supply of old
command set parts. The 6C4, crystal oscillator, has been
replaced with a 6CB6.
Other than all that it is completely origional. Hi.
I would be pleased to provide a picture or two any one
interested.


73
Lorne
VE7BOX


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 21:00:46 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (William L. Hopkins)
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 16:00:46 -0500
Subject: [HBR] re HBR test
References: <004301c1c616$9566b180$39bb17cf@default.sunwave.net>
Message-ID: <02Mar7.160647est.119084@gateway.naz.edu>

Lorne,

Of course, show us your photos.

ciao
bill hopkins
AA2YV


LORNE BARBER wrote:

> Some one was asking about construction projects. While my
> project is not exactly HBR, it may interest some as it will be
> used with an HBR13 for an all homebrew station.
> I have completed about 75% of a home brew transmitter project
> which origionally appeared in the seventeenth edition of  Orr's
> Radio Handbook (p 674).  I have copied it quite faithfully with
> some modifications and now I am at the  testing stage.  I am
> encouraged by the fact it is working up to the final stage.
> The finals as origionally used are too rich for my blood so I
> have replaced them with a single 6146 making use of  a
> multiband matching system, eliminating band switching in this
> section. The plans are to drive my 20 year pr 811's with it.
> I have opted to use a HP23 power supply rather than the version
> described.
> A  VOX system and CW side tone have been added. A different VFO
> has been used in order to take advantage of the supply of old
> command set parts. The 6C4, crystal oscillator, has been
> replaced with a 6CB6.
> Other than all that it is completely origional. Hi.
> I would be pleased to provide a picture or two any one
> interested.
>
> 73
> Lorne
> VE7BOX
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
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> HBR@mailman.qth.net
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 21:51:32 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (hbr@mailman.qth.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:51:32 -0600
Subject: [HBR] hbr article
Message-ID: <20020307215132.GHLQ18010.out020.verizon.net@out020>

Greetings,

I finally have all the HBR articles except the one from The Radio Handbook.  Does anyone have a copy they could send me?

Regards,
Helm.  WB2ADT



From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 21:56:25 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:56:25 -0600
Subject: [HBR] re HBR test
Message-ID: <20020307.155749.-274543.3.windy10605@juno.com>

Feel free to send the pictures and I'll put them on the web site
for everyone to enjoy. I still have the two dial pulley pictures
you sent earlier but no overall Tx

73s  Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 22:00:59 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:00:59 -0600
Subject: [HBR] hbr article
Message-ID: <20020307.160103.-274543.4.windy10605@juno.com>

Sure, I made some copies of the Radio Handbook article
... Need your address

Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 22:15:52 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (hbr@mailman.qth.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:15:52 -0600
Subject: [HBR] hbr article
Message-ID: <20020307221552.GMQV24554.out007.verizon.net@out007>

> 
> From: Sandy and Kees Talen <windy10605@juno.com>
> Date: 2002/03/07 Thu PM 04:00:59 CST
> To: hbr@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [HBR] hbr article
> 
> Sure, I made some copies of the Radio Handbook article
> ... Need your address
> 
> Kees K5BCQ

I presume you mean Snailmail address.

Helmut Usbeck
88-41 Ashford St.
Queens Village, NY  11427-2644

I guess you couldn't scan it and send it along.

Thanks much,
Helm.  WB2ADT
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
> 
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> 


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 22:27:19 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:27:19 -0600
Subject: [HBR] hbr article
Message-ID: <20020307.165749.-274543.6.windy10605@juno.com>

I could scan it but it takes too long for good quality.

Kees

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar  7 23:11:56 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Jeff Noel)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:11:56 -0500
Subject: [HBR] parts
References: <20020307.155749.-274543.3.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c1c62d$8f656760$3a2f2c42@hppav>

I am looking for a 2 pole 3 position slide switch. I am still working on
this Davco.
Even etched and built a board  for the first and second mixer plus IF amp.

Jeff,
K4ZKU


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 10 03:25:00 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:25:00 -0600
Subject: [HBR] More pictures ....Lorne's TX
Message-ID: <20020309.212505.-207347.13.windy10605@juno.com>

Posted 3 pictures of Lorne's .....under construction .....HBTX on 
the web site. If anyone else has a similiar HB unit under construction
(Darrell) please send some picture and I'll post them.

The HBR pictures which were on the Homestead site are going to 
take a while to recover/move over to QSL.net.

Kees

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 11 14:47:35 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:47:35 -0600
Subject: [HBR] System question........
Message-ID: <20020311.090505.-150209.13.windy10605@juno.com>

I just searched on HBR Receiver and 90% of the hits still show
the old "inetport.com" site (which went belly up). Is there an simple
way to update all the people who still have the old address for the 
web site or just let the search engines fine the new site ....or is there
a way to redirect those who try the "inetport.com" site to the "qsl.net"
site ??

Kees

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 11 14:42:36 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:42:36 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 5-pin connectors
Message-ID: <20020311.090505.-150209.12.windy10605@juno.com>

I've come across a qty of new 5-pin Amphenol plugs which
match the 5-pin sockets used on the HBR receivers. If you adapt
some PVC like material or similiar, you have a coil form. Might
not be as great as an original Amphenol coil form, but it's still
available and you never know when you want to add an extra 
band.

Cost is $1 each plus $1.50 postage (in the US) per 5 plugs.

73s  Kees K5BCQ    



From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Tue Mar 12 15:36:47 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:36:47 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Pictures on the web site
Message-ID: <20020312.093653.-314465.2.windy10605@juno.com>

Many of the pictures have been moved over to Alan Waller's QSL.net
and should be active when accessed from the HBR Receiver web site.  
I haven't checked them all (slow system/modem) and if you find a 
problem with any of them, send me a note.

I will also add "matching" tube type (glow in the dark) HB transmitters, 
and amplifiers. Just send me the pictures. No sense leaving that work 
of your's where other's can't see what you built.

73s  Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Tue Mar 12 21:05:31 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Byron Tatum)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:05:31 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Pictures on the web site
References: <20020312.093653.-314465.2.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <001301c1ca09$a60a64e0$c7eadacf@tatum001>

Hello Kees-
    Would you be interested in any scanned copies of some of the various JW
Miller and Millen IF transformer data sheets, such as the ones tucked into
the carton with the unit.
    I have been going through my stock of these and thought I could
accomplish 2 things :
    1. To make the info available, if anyone would need such.
    2. To get your opinion of the quality of the transformers, as there are
various types { 012-, 312-, 612-, 912- }.
    Tell me, have you studied the " DX Receiver" in the 16th edition of the
Bill Orr handbook? I am getting ready to build this set, and have been
gathering parts for some time. It appeals to me because of the variable IF
arrangement { same tuning range on all bands} and AGC circuits. I wonder if
you know anyone that has built one of them?
    I like to follow the HBR info and have been accumulating parts for one
of them. CUL, Byron, WA5THJ.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy and Kees Talen" <windy10605@juno.com>
To: <HBR@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:36 AM
Subject: [HBR] Pictures on the web site


> Many of the pictures have been moved over to Alan Waller's QSL.net
> and should be active when accessed from the HBR Receiver web site.
> I haven't checked them all (slow system/modem) and if you find a
> problem with any of them, send me a note.
>
> I will also add "matching" tube type (glow in the dark) HB transmitters,
> and amplifiers. Just send me the pictures. No sense leaving that work
> of your's where other's can't see what you built.
>
> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Tue Mar 12 22:19:07 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:19:07 -0600
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Pictures on the web site
Message-ID: <20020312.161922.-458399.3.windy10605@juno.com>

Hi Byron. I added my comments to your note. Thank you for offering the 
information...........

>Hello Kees-
>Would you be interested in any scanned copies of some of the various JW
>Miller and Millen IF transformer data sheets, such as the ones tucked
into
>the carton with the unit.
>    I have been going through my stock of these and thought I could
>accomplish 2 things :
>    1. To make the info available, if anyone would need such.
>    2. To get your opinion of the quality of the transformers, as there
are
>various types { 012-, 312-, 612-, 912- }.

.........I would be interested in that, but you have to keep the scans
down to 
less than 100KB (pictures around 50KB) or they take up too much space. 
If you could mail me a good copy for my files, I would appreciate it. I
have 
catalog information on the 512, 612, and 912 ...not on the 012. The main 
thing about these is that they are large. The 512 is air core, the 612 is

powdered iron which should provide better selectivity than the 512, and 
the 912 is permeability tuned which is even better. I'd use the 912 or
612 
transformers if you have them. Since these are relatively difficult to
find
today, the 85Khz BC-453 IFs are really excellent and much more readily
available. I was very surprised just how good they look on a Spectrum
Analyzer. 

I have no information at all on the smaller IFs 1709, 1710, 1711, etc


>    Tell me, have you studied the " DX Receiver" in the 16th edition of
the
>Bill Orr handbook? I am getting ready to build this set, and have been
>gathering parts for some time. It appeals to me because of the variable
IF
>arrangement { same tuning range on all bands} and AGC circuits. I wonder
if
>you know anyone that has built one of them?

.........Don't know if anyone has built one but they look very well
designed.
I realize that the HBRs can be improved for today's crowded bands and
have 
been contemplating adding some crystal filters so I can use it more
often.
You might ask on the HBR reflector or the Boatanchors reflector. Would 
really like to see one of those turn up at a swapmeet. Most people would 
just walk by looking for an Icom, Kenwood, etc.

>    I like to follow the HBR info and have been accumulating parts for
one
>of them. CUL, Byron, WA5THJ.

.......sounds great  !!


73s  Kees K5BCQ 



From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Fri Mar 15 01:38:11 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:38:11 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
Message-ID: <20020314.193816.-260641.12.windy10605@juno.com>

Open to ideas and suggestions.......

Since the Eddystone 898 dials are expensive, difficult to locate, 
and too large for the smaller HBR-11, it would be nice to come 
up with an inexpensive, useable, and easy to build slide rule dial 
adaptable to both an existing HBR-16 or HBR-11. 

The dual Jackson Bros verniers are excellent, so the knob to tuning
capacitor drive is solutioned at 36:1. The only hangup is capacitor 
shaft to a slide rule indicator. Maybe using a dial cord driven off a 
pulley on the capacitor shaft. I want something which can be 
retrofitted onto the older HBRs without having to resort to the 
elevated subchassis used for the 898 dial.  Also something which
could be scaled down to "look right" on a smaller HBR-11/12.

73s  Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Fri Mar 15 03:04:20 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Byron Tatum)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:04:20 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
References: <20020314.193816.-260641.12.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <001301c1cbce$1b2b2b40$28dedacf@tatum001>

Hello Kees-
    What do you think about the Eddystone 598? I have never used one before.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy and Kees Talen" <windy10605@juno.com>
To: <HBR@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....


> Open to ideas and suggestions.......
>
> Since the Eddystone 898 dials are expensive, difficult to locate,
> and too large for the smaller HBR-11, it would be nice to come
> up with an inexpensive, useable, and easy to build slide rule dial
> adaptable to both an existing HBR-16 or HBR-11.
>
> The dual Jackson Bros verniers are excellent, so the knob to tuning
> capacitor drive is solutioned at 36:1. The only hangup is capacitor
> shaft to a slide rule indicator. Maybe using a dial cord driven off a
> pulley on the capacitor shaft. I want something which can be
> retrofitted onto the older HBRs without having to resort to the
> elevated subchassis used for the 898 dial.  Also something which
> could be scaled down to "look right" on a smaller HBR-11/12.
>
> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Fri Mar 15 04:16:18 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:16:18 -0600
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
Message-ID: <20020314.221629.-260641.16.windy10605@juno.com>

The Eddystone 598 is a nice 180 degree arc dial, I have one on a 
HBR-11. It's much smaller than the National ACN/ICN dials and 
about the same size as a National SCN. Best part; it has a smooth, 
10:1 tuning rate, Jackson Bros ball vernier drive. This has a "better" 
feel than the "standard", 6.5:1 tuning rate, Jackson Bros ball vernier 
drive. The size of the dial is compatible with the HBR-11/12 size 
receivers where the Eddystone 898 or the ACN/ICN dials would be 
too large. 

As an aside....I wouldn't be surprised if the 598 dials are actually 
more difficult to locate than the 898 Eddystones because the 898
was THE dial if you could afford it. National dials were OK-good,
inexpensive, and readily available. 

A slower tuning ratio is desirable when using the "standard" 
Jackson Bros drives and that's why two stacked ball verniers 
with, a 42:1 tuning rate (21 turns stop to stop), are better yet, 
but they must be mounted solidly.

The drawback of all 180 degree arc dials (in my opinion) is that
there is limited space to indicate frequencies on the inner arcs.
A "sliderule" dial circumvents this problem. 

"Human factors" and "ease of use" are very important in receivers ....
....that's what you are looking at and tuning for hours on end. Digital
dials are really easy to use but "don't look right" on tube type 
receivers (my opinion).     

Got off on a tangent ...what was your question ? 


73s  Kees K5BCQ  
   

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Byron Tatum" <bjtatum@ev1.net>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:04:20 -0600
Subject: Re: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
Message-ID: <001301c1cbce$1b2b2b40$28dedacf@tatum001>
References: <20020314.193816.-260641.12.windy10605@juno.com>

Hello Kees-
    What do you think about the Eddystone 598? I have never used one
before.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy and Kees Talen" <windy10605@juno.com>
To: <HBR@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....


> Open to ideas and suggestions.......
>
> Since the Eddystone 898 dials are expensive, difficult to locate,
> and too large for the smaller HBR-11, it would be nice to come
> up with an inexpensive, useable, and easy to build slide rule dial
> adaptable to both an existing HBR-16 or HBR-11.
>
> The dual Jackson Bros verniers are excellent, so the knob to tuning
> capacitor drive is solutioned at 36:1. The only hangup is capacitor
> shaft to a slide rule indicator. Maybe using a dial cord driven off a
> pulley on the capacitor shaft. I want something which can be
> retrofitted onto the older HBRs without having to resort to the
> elevated subchassis used for the 898 dial.  Also something which
> could be scaled down to "look right" on a smaller HBR-11/12.
>
> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>




************************************
Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 

HBR mailing list
HBR@mailman.qth.net
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Fri Mar 15 14:24:25 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Bob Duckworth, WB4MNF)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:24:25 -0500
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
References: <20020314.221629.-260641.16.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3C920419.1030409@atl.org>

I was going to suggest a radiused dial
but more of a slot. Either cut in the front panel or in a
smaller panel that stands off from the front and has your
reduction drive mounted. A fairly thin slit and put your
scale on a card that you drop between the two panels
when you swap coils.

Say, a 3/8 wide slot on 3" radius. You could backlight as well.

Now if you want string, one can do a lot with string :-)

-bob


Sandy and Kees Talen wrote:

> The Eddystone 598 is a nice 180 degree arc dial, I have one on a 
> HBR-11. It's much smaller than the National ACN/ICN dials and 
> about the same size as a National SCN. Best part; it has a smooth, 
> 10:1 tuning rate, Jackson Bros ball vernier drive. This has a "better" 
> feel than the "standard", 6.5:1 tuning rate, Jackson Bros ball vernier 
> drive. The size of the dial is compatible with the HBR-11/12 size 
> receivers where the Eddystone 898 or the ACN/ICN dials would be 
> too large. 
> 
> As an aside....I wouldn't be surprised if the 598 dials are actually 
> more difficult to locate than the 898 Eddystones because the 898
> was THE dial if you could afford it. National dials were OK-good,
> inexpensive, and readily available. 
> 
> A slower tuning ratio is desirable when using the "standard" 
> Jackson Bros drives and that's why two stacked ball verniers 
> with, a 42:1 tuning rate (21 turns stop to stop), are better yet, 
> but they must be mounted solidly.
> 
> The drawback of all 180 degree arc dials (in my opinion) is that
> there is limited space to indicate frequencies on the inner arcs.
> A "sliderule" dial circumvents this problem. 
> 
> "Human factors" and "ease of use" are very important in receivers ....
> ....that's what you are looking at and tuning for hours on end. Digital
> dials are really easy to use but "don't look right" on tube type 
> receivers (my opinion).     
> 
> Got off on a tangent ...what was your question ? 
> 
> 
> 73s  Kees K5BCQ  
>    
> 
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Byron Tatum" <bjtatum@ev1.net>
> To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:04:20 -0600
> Subject: Re: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
> Message-ID: <001301c1cbce$1b2b2b40$28dedacf@tatum001>
> References: <20020314.193816.-260641.12.windy10605@juno.com>
> 
> Hello Kees-
>     What do you think about the Eddystone 598? I have never used one
> before.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sandy and Kees Talen" <windy10605@juno.com>
> To: <HBR@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:38 PM
> Subject: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
> 
> 
> 
>>Open to ideas and suggestions.......
>>
>>Since the Eddystone 898 dials are expensive, difficult to locate,
>>and too large for the smaller HBR-11, it would be nice to come
>>up with an inexpensive, useable, and easy to build slide rule dial
>>adaptable to both an existing HBR-16 or HBR-11.
>>
>>The dual Jackson Bros verniers are excellent, so the knob to tuning
>>capacitor drive is solutioned at 36:1. The only hangup is capacitor
>>shaft to a slide rule indicator. Maybe using a dial cord driven off a
>>pulley on the capacitor shaft. I want something which can be
>>retrofitted onto the older HBRs without having to resort to the
>>elevated subchassis used for the 898 dial.  Also something which
>>could be scaled down to "look right" on a smaller HBR-11/12.
>>
>>73s  Kees K5BCQ
>>
>>
>>
>>************************************
>>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>>
>>HBR mailing list
>>HBR@mailman.qth.net
>>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
> 
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
> 
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> 
> 
> 



From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Fri Mar 15 14:58:09 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:58:09 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Q Meter Certifiable Calibration it isn't, but...........
Message-ID: <20020315.090051.-150275.5.windy10605@juno.com>

Some of you homebrewers who understand the advantages 
of knowing coil "Q" might also be interested in this.........

I don't own any of the Boonton calibration standards, in fact I've
never seen one. However, I would like some level of accuracy
with my Boonton 260A (or any other Q Meter).

Recently Paul Monroe volunteered to test some toroids on a 
calibrated HP4342A Q meter (undoubtenly more accurate than 
my old Boonton 260A).  As soon as I can correlate the data with 
my machine (initial info looks like it reads about 20-30% low) I'll
make those available to others (on loan) for a rough calibration 
of their Q meters .......better than assuming/guessing. 

Send me your name if you would like to borrow them, I'll make a 
list, and forward that around with a couple of toroids. Just keep
them a few days and send to the next person on the list.

May work, may not, we'll see.

73s  Kees K5BCQ


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar 16 01:05:13 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (R.J. Mattson)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 20:05:13 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
References: <20020314.221629.-260641.16.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <003601c1cc86$a1c7e2c0$ea6ddbd0@rjmattson>

Hello
Didn't QST, HR or 73 have an article on homebrewing a slide rule dial?
I just remember it vaguely.
Bob Mattson...W2AMI   WN2AMI 1962

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandy and Kees Talen" <windy10605@juno.com>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:16 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....


> The Eddystone 598 is a nice 180 degree arc dial, I have one on a 
> HBR-11. It's much smaller than the National ACN/ICN dials and 
> about the same size as a National SCN. Best part; it has a smooth, 
> 10:1 tuning rate, Jackson Bros ball vernier drive. This has a "better" 
> feel than the "standard", 6.5:1 tuning rate, Jackson Bros ball vernier 
> drive. The size of the dial is compatible with the HBR-11/12 size 
> receivers where the Eddystone 898 or the ACN/ICN dials would be 
> too large. 
> 
> As an aside....I wouldn't be surprised if the 598 dials are actually 
> more difficult to locate than the 898 Eddystones because the 898
> was THE dial if you could afford it. National dials were OK-good,
> inexpensive, and readily available. 
> 
> A slower tuning ratio is desirable when using the "standard" 
> Jackson Bros drives and that's why two stacked ball verniers 
> with, a 42:1 tuning rate (21 turns stop to stop), are better yet, 
> but they must be mounted solidly.
> 
> The drawback of all 180 degree arc dials (in my opinion) is that
> there is limited space to indicate frequencies on the inner arcs.
> A "sliderule" dial circumvents this problem. 
> 
> "Human factors" and "ease of use" are very important in receivers ....
> ....that's what you are looking at and tuning for hours on end. Digital
> dials are really easy to use but "don't look right" on tube type 
> receivers (my opinion).     
> 
> Got off on a tangent ...what was your question ? 
> 
> 
> 73s  Kees K5BCQ  
>    
> 
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Byron Tatum" <bjtatum@ev1.net>
> To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:04:20 -0600
> Subject: Re: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
> Message-ID: <001301c1cbce$1b2b2b40$28dedacf@tatum001>
> References: <20020314.193816.-260641.12.windy10605@juno.com>
> 
> Hello Kees-
>     What do you think about the Eddystone 598? I have never used one
> before.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sandy and Kees Talen" <windy10605@juno.com>
> To: <HBR@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:38 PM
> Subject: [HBR] Looking for some ideas on a slide rune dial....
> 
> 
> > Open to ideas and suggestions.......
> >
> > Since the Eddystone 898 dials are expensive, difficult to locate,
> > and too large for the smaller HBR-11, it would be nice to come
> > up with an inexpensive, useable, and easy to build slide rule dial
> > adaptable to both an existing HBR-16 or HBR-11.
> >
> > The dual Jackson Bros verniers are excellent, so the knob to tuning
> > capacitor drive is solutioned at 36:1. The only hangup is capacitor
> > shaft to a slide rule indicator. Maybe using a dial cord driven off a
> > pulley on the capacitor shaft. I want something which can be
> > retrofitted onto the older HBRs without having to resort to the
> > elevated subchassis used for the 898 dial.  Also something which
> > could be scaled down to "look right" on a smaller HBR-11/12.
> >
> > 73s  Kees K5BCQ
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************
> > Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> > construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >
> > HBR mailing list
> > HBR@mailman.qth.net
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
> 
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
> 
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> 



From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar 16 15:05:06 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Helmut Usbeck)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 10:05:06 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <002801c1ccfb$f584e730$adfefea9@gemini>

So far I've been only able to find an article from Ham Radio, December, =
1988.  I also know there were others.
There construction was buried most of the time in articles pertaining to =
receiver, transmitters, and vfo's.
Looking for more.  Many magazines here.
Regards,
Helm.  WB2ADT


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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar 16 16:44:42 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Helmut Usbeck)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:44:42 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <003d01c1cd09$df4b7a70$adfefea9@gemini>

Another homebuilt dial is described IN QST '55, page 24.  Nice receiver =
design also!
Regards,
Helm.  WB2ADT=20


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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar 16 16:57:32 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Helmut Usbeck)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:57:32 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <004c01c1cd0b$aa4bc030$adfefea9@gemini>

On the HBR web page, Bob, WB4MNF, pictures nr. 37, 38, 39, shows a =
homebrew dial.  Most of the parts look like they came off of a sliderule =
dial from a broadcast band receiver.  Looks like an easy way to go if =
you have an old junker AM set around.

Regards,
Helm.  WB2ADT


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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar 16 21:45:43 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Eddy Swynar)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 16:45:43 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Dials...
Message-ID: <007801c1cd33$ed478cc0$011fbace@greg>

Greetings to the Group from a New Subscriber...

An absolutely STUPID question, I'm sure, but where in the world do
contemporary builders of HBR receivers find all of those N.O.S./N.I.B.
"Eddystone 898" dials these days...?

And what are they getting them for in terms of $$$...?

They sure are good-looking!

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar 16 22:09:18 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (john)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:09:18 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Dials...
In-Reply-To: <007801c1cd33$ed478cc0$011fbace@greg>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20020316170918.01686f80@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

In my case, the ever present EPay. (they show up there
routinely)

Alternately you could look for a trashed Clegg Venus/interceptor

John



At 04:45 PM 3/16/02 -0500, Eddy Swynar wrote:
>Greetings to the Group from a New Subscriber...
>
>An absolutely STUPID question, I'm sure, but where in the world do
>contemporary builders of HBR receivers find all of those N.O.S./N.I.B.
>"Eddystone 898" dials these days...?
>
>And what are they getting them for in terms of $$$...?
>
>They sure are good-looking!
>
>~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>
>
>
>
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
>
>HBR mailing list
>HBR@mailman.qth.net
>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar 16 22:01:43 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Eddy Swynar)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:01:43 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Dials...
References: <3.0.3.32.20020316170918.01686f80@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <008401c1cd36$29e6bc80$011fbace@greg>

Hi John...

Thanks for that tip...

What, in your estimation, is a "good" price for one? Last week I was
half-relieved that I got outbid in the last second (literally!) for a NOS
one from England---it sold for just over $100.00 US.

That's $150.00 in CANADIAN money---as much as I paid for my beloved RCA
AR-88LF a couple of years ago!

Just curious...thanks, John.

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ





----- Original Message -----
From: "john" <johnmb@nc.rr.com>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>; <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...


>
> In my case, the ever present EPay. (they show up there
> routinely)
>
> Alternately you could look for a trashed Clegg Venus/interceptor
>
> John
>
>
>
> At 04:45 PM 3/16/02 -0500, Eddy Swynar wrote:
> >Greetings to the Group from a New Subscriber...
> >
> >An absolutely STUPID question, I'm sure, but where in the world do
> >contemporary builders of HBR receivers find all of those N.O.S./N.I.B.
> >"Eddystone 898" dials these days...?
> >
> >And what are they getting them for in terms of $$$...?
> >
> >They sure are good-looking!
> >
> >~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >************************************
> >Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> >construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >
> >HBR mailing list
> >HBR@mailman.qth.net
> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >
>
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar 16 22:32:26 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 16:32:26 -0600
Subject: [HBR] HBR Dials...
Message-ID: <20020316.163231.-251251.1.windy10605@juno.com>

Eddy, welcome to the reflector. You might check the HBR reflector
archives for this month since there has been some discussion on 
various dials to use.

73s  Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 00:15:37 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (john)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:15:37 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Dials...
In-Reply-To: <008401c1cd36$29e6bc80$011fbace@greg>
References: <3.0.3.32.20020316170918.01686f80@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20020316191537.01691bcc@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

Just for grins I snapped a couple shots of the NOS unit I found a year
or so ago.

http://www.old-radios.com/pics/Eddystone.html

(is that really 25% tax!? And I thought 8% in Calif was bad!)
:-)
John






>Hi John...
>
>Thanks for that tip...
>
>What, in your estimation, is a "good" price for one? Last week I was
>half-relieved that I got outbid in the last second (literally!) for a NOS
>one from England---it sold for just over $100.00 US.
>
>That's $150.00 in CANADIAN money---as much as I paid for my beloved RCA
>AR-88LF a couple of years ago!
>
>Just curious...thanks, John.
>
>~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "john" <johnmb@nc.rr.com>
>To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>; <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 5:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...
>
>
>>
>> In my case, the ever present EPay. (they show up there
>> routinely)
>>
>> Alternately you could look for a trashed Clegg Venus/interceptor
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> At 04:45 PM 3/16/02 -0500, Eddy Swynar wrote:
>> >Greetings to the Group from a New Subscriber...
>> >
>> >An absolutely STUPID question, I'm sure, but where in the world do
>> >contemporary builders of HBR receivers find all of those N.O.S./N.I.B.
>> >"Eddystone 898" dials these days...?
>> >
>> >And what are they getting them for in terms of $$$...?
>> >
>> >They sure are good-looking!
>> >
>> >~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >************************************
>> >Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>> >construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>> >
>> >HBR mailing list
>> >HBR@mailman.qth.net
>> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ************************************
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>> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>>
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>> HBR@mailman.qth.net
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>
>
>
>************************************
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>
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 00:28:19 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (hbr@mailman.qth.net)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:28:19 EST
Subject: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <cd.147ae6b4.29c53d23@aol.com>

I have an hro gear drive box so question-I assume that will be good for 
tuning an HBR? I think driving a home brew slide rule would be fairly easy. 
It seems to me I always see old test gear (cheap) at flea markets with some 
nice looking slide rule dials and mechanisms. BTW Im still working on my 
hbr-slow but getting there-hi! 73s Lew KlNDV 

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 01:49:09 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:49:09 -0600
Subject: Fw: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <20020316.194912.-251251.3.windy10605@juno.com>

....not to mention an old AM/FM tube radio at a fleamarket which is 
usually very cheap, maybe has a nice sliderule dial assy, maybe a 
useable power transformer (might be too small, depends on how 
many tubes the radio had), and other useful parts ...maybe even 
a 3 section FM tuning cap. Too bad they don't use 100Khz IFs.

73s  Kees K5BCQ

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: LJL160@aol.com
To: hbr@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:28:19 EST
Subject: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <cd.147ae6b4.29c53d23@aol.com>

I have an hro gear drive box so question-I assume that will be good for 
tuning an HBR? I think driving a home brew slide rule would be fairly
easy. 
It seems to me I always see old test gear (cheap) at flea markets with
some 
nice looking slide rule dials and mechanisms. BTW Im still working on my 
hbr-slow but getting there-hi! 73s Lew KlNDV 



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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 03:17:10 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:17:10 -0600
Subject: Fw: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <20020316.211714.-252973.1.windy10605@juno.com>

HRO gear drives are excellent and if you drive a sliderule dial
you wouldn't have to adjust the coils to synchronize with the 
"0-500" reading of the HRO dial. However, if you could .........


Kees


--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: LJL160@aol.com
To: hbr@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 19:28:19 EST
Subject: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <cd.147ae6b4.29c53d23@aol.com>

I have an hro gear drive box so question-I assume that will be good for 
tuning an HBR? I think driving a home brew slide rule would be fairly
easy. 
It seems to me I always see old test gear (cheap) at flea markets with
some 
nice looking slide rule dials and mechanisms. BTW Im still working on my 
hbr-slow but getting there-hi! 73s Lew KlNDV 



************************************
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construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 

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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 14:24:19 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (hbr@mailman.qth.net)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:24:19 EST
Subject: [HBR] HBR Dials...
Message-ID: <a4.22befa35.29c60113@aol.com>

In a message dated 3/16/02 4:54:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
gswynar@durham.net writes:

> Greetings to the Group from a New Subscriber...
>  
>  An absolutely STUPID question, I'm sure, but where in the world do
>  contemporary builders of HBR receivers find all of those N.O.S./N.I.B.
>  "Eddystone 898" dials these days...?

Apparently a lot of those dials have been hoarded for many years. They show 
up on eBay fairly regularly. I used to see them quite regularly at hamfests 
around here (EPA) but haven't been to a 'fest in several years.
>  
>  And what are they getting them for in terms of $$$...?

The highest price I ever saw was $280 (not a typo) for a mint one on eBay. 
$50-100 is more like it. 
>  
>  They sure are good-looking!

They are nice dials but have some quirks:

- They really need a high-quality coupling. There's a Millen coupling that is 
a form of Oldham's coupling that is recommended. I think the number is 39016 
or 39006

- The output shaft is way above the input knob, requiring a subchassis or 
other method. Careful mechanical and chassis design is needed to avoid 
backlash. Need 
to cut several odd-shaped holes with good precision to mount it.

- The dial has is a combination of pinch-drive, gears and strings. The little 
round 0-100 dial visible through the window turns in the opposite direction 
of the knob.

But they do look cool.

I have found that the very best easily-available dials/drives for homebrew 
projects 
are to be found in WW2 surplus. Only problem is that you get an integrated 
capacitor/drive assembly. 

My favorite is the capacitor from a defunct BC-221 or LM freqmeter. These 
have a 
100:1 gear reduction drive and are about the best quality imagineable. Next 
come the capacitors in ARC-5 transmitters. Also useful are the capacitors 
from TCS receivers. 

73 de Jim, N2EY

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 12:45:27 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Eddy Swynar)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 07:45:27 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Dials...
References: <20020316.163231.-251251.1.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c1cdb1$9e95afc0$2d1fbace@greg>

Hi Kees...

Thanks for having me aboard!

What's the exact number of subscribers exactly, anyway...? I'm curious as to
how many "...practioners of the black art" of receiver-building still remain
among us! Hi Hi

I've built a total of only TWO in my Ham career---a mid-60's style dual
conversion superhet (a souped-up "Mate For The Mighty Midget", really), & a
1929-style 4-tube regenerative.

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ



I'm curious as to how a
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy and Kees Talen" <windy10605@juno.com>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...


> Eddy, welcome to the reflector. You might check the HBR reflector
> archives for this month since there has been some discussion on
> various dials to use.
>
> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
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> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 12:56:17 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Eddy Swynar)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 07:56:17 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Dials...
References: <3.0.3.32.20020316170918.01686f80@pop-server.nc.rr.com> <3.0.3.32.20020316191537.01691bcc@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002701c1cdb3$22456da0$2d1fbace@greg>

John...

Just took a look at your site...I'm STILL crying!

What a lovely buy. What'd it cost you? Have you pressed it into service yet?

I have all KINDS of verniers here: both Millen dials (big & small), a
VARIETY of National ones, the little Japanese doo-hickies, & lots of ancient
verniers---but NO Eddystone. You are SO lucky!

Would dearly love your next post to be shots of that dial mounted on a
FINISHED homebrew receiver, though! Hi Hi

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ

PS: That difference in $$$ per my previous message was the dollar exchange,
Canada-to-US. Still, on domestic purchases we pay *% federal tax AND 7%
provincial tax for a grand total of 15%. Isn't life grand? Ben Franklin
wasn't kidding about the only two sure bets in life...!

----- Original Message -----
From: "john" <johnmb@nc.rr.com>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...


> Just for grins I snapped a couple shots of the NOS unit I found a year
> or so ago.
>
> http://www.old-radios.com/pics/Eddystone.html
>
> (is that really 25% tax!? And I thought 8% in Calif was bad!)
> :-)
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Hi John...
> >
> >Thanks for that tip...
> >
> >What, in your estimation, is a "good" price for one? Last week I was
> >half-relieved that I got outbid in the last second (literally!) for a NOS
> >one from England---it sold for just over $100.00 US.
> >
> >That's $150.00 in CANADIAN money---as much as I paid for my beloved RCA
> >AR-88LF a couple of years ago!
> >
> >Just curious...thanks, John.
> >
> >~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "john" <johnmb@nc.rr.com>
> >To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>; <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
> >Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 5:09 PM
> >Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...
> >
> >
> >>
> >> In my case, the ever present EPay. (they show up there
> >> routinely)
> >>
> >> Alternately you could look for a trashed Clegg Venus/interceptor
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 04:45 PM 3/16/02 -0500, Eddy Swynar wrote:
> >> >Greetings to the Group from a New Subscriber...
> >> >
> >> >An absolutely STUPID question, I'm sure, but where in the world do
> >> >contemporary builders of HBR receivers find all of those N.O.S./N.I.B.
> >> >"Eddystone 898" dials these days...?
> >> >
> >> >And what are they getting them for in terms of $$$...?
> >> >
> >> >They sure are good-looking!
> >> >
> >> >~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >************************************
> >> >Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers
and
> >> >construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >> >
> >> >HBR mailing list
> >> >HBR@mailman.qth.net
> >> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ************************************
> >> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> >> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >>
> >> HBR mailing list
> >> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >************************************
> >Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> >construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >
> >HBR mailing list
> >HBR@mailman.qth.net
> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
> >
>
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
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> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 15:45:28 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (john)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:45:28 -0500
Subject: [HBR] HBR Dials...
In-Reply-To: <002701c1cdb3$22456da0$2d1fbace@greg>
References: <3.0.3.32.20020316170918.01686f80@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
 <3.0.3.32.20020316191537.01691bcc@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20020317104528.0197143c@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

Eddy
That's the one that was shipped from Oz. I think I paid "only" about $45 US
but I think I paid almost $30 for shipping from there. I do plan to use it,
but
I've not determined whether it's to be an HBR or another RX. It's too good
to languish in a box!
A local picked up a thrashed Venus for $10 at a 'fest... so they ARE out
there at reasonable prices, but there's not many. 
I'd recommend anyone buying at Ebay consider Esnipe. It's the only way to
bid! (www.esnipe.com).
I posted on r.r.amateur.misc and some other usenet groups and got quite a
few offers, when I was looking for mine, that might be a avenue to pursue
(of course, use a spamtrap address...hotmail, or yahoo or the like).

Somewhere along the line I found locally, an HBR-kit (it's on Kees'
wonderful HBR page), and I'll likely put that together soon. The local who
sold it to me, said it had some intermittants, so he TOOK IT ALL APART! I
found the original owners call etched in the chassis and tracked him down.
I got the history of the piece (which to me is a fascinating part of this
old stuff) along with some correspondence with Ted and other stuff. It'll
make for a fun project, but I'm sure I'll need the collective help of the
group here.

So many projects, so little time!  I'm currently rebuilding my SX9
(restuffing poly caps inside the old paper cases etc) and getting ready to
finally put my tower back up. It's been 6 yrs since I've moved from NM to
NC, and it'll sure
be nice to have the tribander back up.

73
John



At 07:56 AM 3/17/02 -0500, you wrote:
>John...
>
>Just took a look at your site...I'm STILL crying!
>
>What a lovely buy. What'd it cost you? Have you pressed it into service yet?
>
>I have all KINDS of verniers here: both Millen dials (big & small), a
>VARIETY of National ones, the little Japanese doo-hickies, & lots of ancient
>verniers---but NO Eddystone. You are SO lucky!
>
>Would dearly love your next post to be shots of that dial mounted on a
>FINISHED homebrew receiver, though! Hi Hi
>
>~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>
>PS: That difference in $$$ per my previous message was the dollar exchange,
>Canada-to-US. Still, on domestic purchases we pay *% federal tax AND 7%
>provincial tax for a grand total of 15%. Isn't life grand? Ben Franklin
>wasn't kidding about the only two sure bets in life...!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "john" <johnmb@nc.rr.com>
>To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 7:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...
>
>
>> Just for grins I snapped a couple shots of the NOS unit I found a year
>> or so ago.
>>
>> http://www.old-radios.com/pics/Eddystone.html
>>
>> (is that really 25% tax!? And I thought 8% in Calif was bad!)
>> :-)
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >Hi John...
>> >
>> >Thanks for that tip...
>> >
>> >What, in your estimation, is a "good" price for one? Last week I was
>> >half-relieved that I got outbid in the last second (literally!) for a NOS
>> >one from England---it sold for just over $100.00 US.
>> >
>> >That's $150.00 in CANADIAN money---as much as I paid for my beloved RCA
>> >AR-88LF a couple of years ago!
>> >
>> >Just curious...thanks, John.
>> >
>> >~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "john" <johnmb@nc.rr.com>
>> >To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>; <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
>> >Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 5:09 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> In my case, the ever present EPay. (they show up there
>> >> routinely)
>> >>
>> >> Alternately you could look for a trashed Clegg Venus/interceptor
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 04:45 PM 3/16/02 -0500, Eddy Swynar wrote:
>> >> >Greetings to the Group from a New Subscriber...
>> >> >
>> >> >An absolutely STUPID question, I'm sure, but where in the world do
>> >> >contemporary builders of HBR receivers find all of those N.O.S./N.I.B.
>> >> >"Eddystone 898" dials these days...?
>> >> >
>> >> >And what are they getting them for in terms of $$$...?
>> >> >
>> >> >They sure are good-looking!
>> >> >
>> >> >~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >************************************
>> >> >Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers
>and
>> >> >construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>> >> >
>> >> >HBR mailing list
>> >> >HBR@mailman.qth.net
>> >> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ************************************
>> >> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>> >> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>> >>
>> >> HBR mailing list
>> >> HBR@mailman.qth.net
>> >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >************************************
>> >Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>> >construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>> >
>> >HBR mailing list
>> >HBR@mailman.qth.net
>> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ************************************
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>> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>>
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>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>
>
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>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
>
>Retrieve reflector archived data via
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 16:37:08 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:37:08 -0600
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...
Message-ID: <20020317.103712.-204801.3.windy10605@juno.com>

I just checked the reflector and there are 87 members with 6 or so
subscribing in the last 5 days. Pretty good, for a site largely focussed
on ONE homebrew receiver from 40 years ago. I'm surprised that there 
are still so many people out there with the receivers, have the parts
still stashed in the closet, or at least remember the articles and took
an interest in building it. Maybe that "age group" reaching retirement 
(with supposed spare time) will refuel the interest.

I do want to expand the reflector to include other homebrew "glow in the 
dark" tube receivers, transmitters, and transceivers to get the activity 
level up. Still waiting for someone to say they have a DCS-500 from 
the same time period (in the early 60s ARRL Handbook). That looked
like a pretty good one too.

73s  Kees K5BCQ 

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Eddy Swynar" <gswynar@durham.net>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 07:45:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...
Message-ID: <000d01c1cdb1$9e95afc0$2d1fbace@greg>
References: <20020316.163231.-251251.1.windy10605@juno.com>

Hi Kees...

Thanks for having me aboard!

What's the exact number of subscribers exactly, anyway...? I'm curious as
to
how many "...practioners of the black art" of receiver-building still
remain
among us! Hi Hi

I've built a total of only TWO in my Ham career---a mid-60's style dual
conversion superhet (a souped-up "Mate For The Mighty Midget", really), &
a
1929-style 4-tube regenerative.

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ



I'm curious as to how a
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy and Kees Talen" <windy10605@juno.com>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...


> Eddy, welcome to the reflector. You might check the HBR reflector
> archives for this month since there has been some discussion on
> various dials to use.
>
> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr



************************************
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construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 

Retrieve reflector archived data via
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 17:01:51 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (john)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:01:51 -0500
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...
In-Reply-To: <20020317.103712.-204801.3.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20020317120151.019ec4a0@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

I do have a DCS500, and I know Bob, WB4MNF has one too...
pictures of both are on his website...

John wb5oau


At 10:37 AM 3/17/02 -0600, Sandy and Kees Talen wrote:
>I just checked the reflector and there are 87 members with 6 or so
>subscribing in the last 5 days. Pretty good, for a site largely focussed
>on ONE homebrew receiver from 40 years ago. I'm surprised that there 
>are still so many people out there with the receivers, have the parts
>still stashed in the closet, or at least remember the articles and took
>an interest in building it. Maybe that "age group" reaching retirement 
>(with supposed spare time) will refuel the interest.
>
>I do want to expand the reflector to include other homebrew "glow in the 
>dark" tube receivers, transmitters, and transceivers to get the activity 
>level up. Still waiting for someone to say they have a DCS-500 from 
>the same time period (in the early 60s ARRL Handbook). That looked
>like a pretty good one too.
>
>73s  Kees K5BCQ 
>
>--------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: "Eddy Swynar" <gswynar@durham.net>
>To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 07:45:27 -0500
>Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...
>Message-ID: <000d01c1cdb1$9e95afc0$2d1fbace@greg>
>References: <20020316.163231.-251251.1.windy10605@juno.com>
>
>Hi Kees...
>
>Thanks for having me aboard!
>
>What's the exact number of subscribers exactly, anyway...? I'm curious as
>to
>how many "...practioners of the black art" of receiver-building still
>remain
>among us! Hi Hi
>
>I've built a total of only TWO in my Ham career---a mid-60's style dual
>conversion superhet (a souped-up "Mate For The Mighty Midget", really), &
>a
>1929-style 4-tube regenerative.
>
>~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>
>
>
>I'm curious as to how a
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sandy and Kees Talen" <windy10605@juno.com>
>To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 5:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [HBR] HBR Dials...
>
>
>> Eddy, welcome to the reflector. You might check the HBR reflector
>> archives for this month since there has been some discussion on
>> various dials to use.
>>
>> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>>
>>
>>
>> ************************************
>> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>>
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 17:15:19 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Ken Lopez)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:15:19 -0800
Subject: [HBR] Where to start?
Message-ID: <3C94CF28.4234F56C@earthlink.net>

Greetings,

I just subscribed to this list.  For many years I have been saving the
odd part here or there in anticipation of building a really good
homebrew receiver.   I haven't done much homebrew since my '20s, and
that's getting to be a while ago now...

So I have a few questions for the list.  I have not had time to visit
the archives in depth, so if my answers can be found there, please
direct me.  I don't want to add unnecessarily to the traffic on the
list. 

First, what are the relative merits of the general HBR design that makes
it so desirable as a home brew project?  If I get started on this thing,
it may take a very long time to finish due to work and family.  I want
to make sure I'm building a rig I'll be happy with for a long time.  I
have some great vintage and new radios, so it need not be the
"ultimate", just satisfying in terms of usefulness on the bands, fun to
build, easy to modify, etc.  I plan to mate it with a number of
commercial low power CW rigs by Johnson and Heath.  Perhaps build a
mating transmitter.  

How well does it actually perform on AM, CW, and SSB?  I'll admit I'm
primarily interested in CW, but the other modes will be used as well.  

What are the relative merits of the different "models" of the HBR?  

What are the various list members working on and why did they choose the
particular version they have?

What are your thoughts about a mating transmitter for CW, or even SSB?  

Suggestions for good sources for parts?  I have a couple of good friends
who have been buying up estates just to save all this stuff from the
dumpster.  Perhaps a shopping run would be in order!

That's enough for now!

This looks like a great list and I look forward to your input and discussion.

Cheers,
Ken N6TZV

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 18:07:42 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (hbr@mailman.qth.net)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:07:42 EST
Subject: Fw: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <ba.22d26878.29c6356e@aol.com>

I think I would make a sliderule window with the HRO gear drive- yes would be 
nice to have it track that scale on the HRO knob BUT- as you say- 73s Lew

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 19:56:24 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:56:24 -0600
Subject: Fw: [HBR] Where to start?
Message-ID: <20020317.142336.-249697.2.windy10605@juno.com>

Welcome to the list, Ken. That's a pretty big question. It may take
a while to answer them all, but some ....like performance, are given
on the HBR Receiver Web Site. I don't know of any specific
measurements that have been made beyond that.  I'm sure there 
are as many opinions as members of the reflector and I'm interested
in seeing their responses. Sensitivity can be as good as any typical
receiver out there. Intermods, etc ...I don't know. Construction 
techniques are VERY important ....component placement, wire 
routing, unwanted wire movement, electrical connections, ceramic 
sockets where needed, etc.

For today's use you might want a little better selectivity (which is part

of the fun of homebrew ....you can change/experiment) and several 
people want the convenience of bandswitching, but that defeats the 
purpose of the plug in coils ....low loss, short lead lengths, high 
"Q" (selectivity), etc. Bandswitching is always a compromise. As far
as selectivity, this receiver focuses on frontend selectivity, low loss,
low noise, and IF selectivity .......vs most receivers today which have 
sloppy frontends, no real IF selectivity and rely on crystal or 
mechnaical filters "to fix it all" .....and a good crystal/mechanical
filter
does a very good job of that, I might add.

73s  Kees K5BCQ


--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ken Lopez <kjlopez@earthlink.net>
To: HBR Mailing List <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:15:19 -0800
Subject: [HBR] Where to start?
Message-ID: <3C94CF28.4234F56C@earthlink.net>

Greetings,

I just subscribed to this list.  For many years I have been saving the
odd part here or there in anticipation of building a really good
homebrew receiver.   I haven't done much homebrew since my '20s, and
that's getting to be a while ago now...

So I have a few questions for the list.  I have not had time to visit
the archives in depth, so if my answers can be found there, please
direct me.  I don't want to add unnecessarily to the traffic on the
list. 

First, what are the relative merits of the general HBR design that makes
it so desirable as a home brew project?  If I get started on this thing,
it may take a very long time to finish due to work and family.  I want
to make sure I'm building a rig I'll be happy with for a long time.  I
have some great vintage and new radios, so it need not be the
"ultimate", just satisfying in terms of usefulness on the bands, fun to
build, easy to modify, etc.  I plan to mate it with a number of
commercial low power CW rigs by Johnson and Heath.  Perhaps build a
mating transmitter.  

How well does it actually perform on AM, CW, and SSB?  I'll admit I'm
primarily interested in CW, but the other modes will be used as well.  

What are the relative merits of the different "models" of the HBR?  

What are the various list members working on and why did they choose the
particular version they have?

What are your thoughts about a mating transmitter for CW, or even SSB?  

Suggestions for good sources for parts?  I have a couple of good friends
who have been buying up estates just to save all this stuff from the
dumpster.  Perhaps a shopping run would be in order!

That's enough for now!

This looks like a great list and I look forward to your input and
discussion.

Cheers,
Ken N6TZV


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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 20:23:18 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:23:18 -0600
Subject: Fw: Re: Fw: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <20020317.142336.-249697.3.windy10605@juno.com>

I think the HRO drive, or stacked Jackson Bros verniers (have a size 
advantage), or BC-221 drives (once you fix the right angle part ....by 
relocating the tuning capacitor ?) can provide an excellent, 30:1 ratio
or 
better, solid, no-backlash, solution from the knob to the tuning
capacitor. 
The item remaining is the capacitor shaft to the dial. I'm coming to the 
conclusion as many of you have .........that dial string works wonders.

As mentioned before, my criteria would be: approx 7"-8" travel plus 
bezel, no sub chassis requirement, simple to reproduce with average 
tools, inexpensive, prefer all bands shown, weighted knob, looks 
professional (like the 898s).

Bezel cut from 1/8" inch aluminum stock ? Maybe thin (1/8" x 3/8") 
brass rectangular tubing available at Hobby stores and Home Depot, 
soldered together ? Some form of modified picture frame ?. Bring 
screws out the back to mount, hold plexiglass face, and mount
second plate with dial markings. Markings on stiff paper glued to the 
plate (same technique as on the HBR S-meter).

73s  Kees K5BCQ  

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: LJL160@aol.com
To: hbr@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:07:42 EST
Subject: Re: Fw: [HBR] Dials
Message-ID: <ba.22d26878.29c6356e@aol.com>

I think I would make a sliderule window with the HRO gear drive- yes
would be 
nice to have it track that scale on the HRO knob BUT- as you say- 73s Lew


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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 22:41:06 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 16:41:06 -0600
Subject: [HBR] DCS-500 Receiver
Message-ID: <20020317.164111.-249697.11.windy10605@juno.com>

Two pictures of John Brewer's (WB5OAU) DCS-500 receiver 
have been uploaded to the HBR Receiver Web Page.

Any more like that out there ?

73s  Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 17 23:10:24 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (john)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:10:24 -0500
Subject: [HBR] DCS-500 Receiver
In-Reply-To: <20020317.164111.-249697.11.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20020317181024.01655fa0@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

Here's Bob's:

http://199.184.215.33/catalog/view_item.php?id=265&catalog=75a23f8c891fb32a3
ecd62489c4ebce8



At 04:41 PM 3/17/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Two pictures of John Brewer's (WB5OAU) DCS-500 receiver 
>have been uploaded to the HBR Receiver Web Page.
>
>Any more like that out there ?
>
>73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
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>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
>
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 18 00:27:37 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:27:37 -0600
Subject: Fw: Re: [HBR] DCS-500 Receiver
Message-ID: <20020317.182741.-249697.12.windy10605@juno.com>

Thanks, uploaded 4 DCS-500 pictures to Bob's folder .....

Kees

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: john <johnmb@nc.rr.com>
To: hbr@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:10:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [HBR] DCS-500 Receiver
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20020317181024.01655fa0@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

Here's Bob's:

http://199.184.215.33/catalog/view_item.php?id=265&catalog=75a23f8c891fb3
2a3
ecd62489c4ebce8



At 04:41 PM 3/17/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Two pictures of John Brewer's (WB5OAU) DCS-500 receiver 
>have been uploaded to the HBR Receiver Web Page.
>
>Any more like that out there ?
>
>73s  Kees K5BCQ
>

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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 18 01:18:30 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Bob Duckworth, WB4MNF)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:18:30 -0500
Subject: [HBR] DCS-500 Receiver
References: <3.0.3.32.20020317181024.01655fa0@pop-server.nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3C954066.7020002@atl.org>

Best leave off the session identifier.

http://199.184.215.33/catalog/view_item.php?id=265



john wrote:

> Here's Bob's:
> 
 



From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 18 02:04:48 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Bob Duckworth, WB4MNF)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:04:48 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Edebris needs new home.
References: <20020317232133.36319.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C954B40.50809@atl.org>

Edebris needs new home...

Vintage HP VTVM with historicity, $35.
48 states pack and ship
$5 east of Mississippi, $9 West, $12 if you
live on one of those little islands off the West Coast...

http://www.edebris.com/catalog/view_item.php?id=115

Kay Varisweeper. $55.
Kay Pro commonality???
48 states pack and ship
$10 east of Mississippi, $14 West, $17 if you
live on one of those little islands off the West Coast...

http://www.edebris.com/catalog/view_item.php?id=321

In consideration of less frequent mail readers,
will notify of award Wednesday P.M. on above.

If any GB readers are also SS experimenters.
I have PLENTY of these. $10 includes postage.
http://www.edebris.com/catalog/view_item.php?id=256

Ionizer plus...
http://www.edebris.com/catalog/view_item.php?id=292

100 terminal strips. $10 includes postage
I have approximately 10 sets.
http://www.edebris.com/catalog/view_item.php?id=310

Anyone know anything about...
http://www.edebris.com/catalog/view_item.php?id=345

Some photos from one of the nicer days of winter sailing
http://www.edebris.com/catalog/view_item.php?id=342

73,
-bob




From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 18 02:27:47 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Darrell & Kay Brooks)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:27:47 -0600
Subject: [HBR] DCS-500
Message-ID: <000b01c1ce24$7f2d3c20$71bd8540@lgwujvnl>

How does the performance of the DCS-500 compare to the HBR? Also, does
anyone have any experience with the HB-67? ( I'm in the process of building
a deluxe version)

Regards,
Darrell, WA5VGO



From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 18 02:52:30 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (wb4mnf)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:52:30 -0500
Subject: [HBR] DCS-500
References: <000b01c1ce24$7f2d3c20$71bd8540@lgwujvnl>
Message-ID: <3C95566E.7090306@atl.org>

Darrell-
I'll have to fire it up and see.
My gut feeling is that it will be muvh better.
Xtal filter and all.
It's been on the bench at work but
I've been busy trying to get rid of stuff
for pending relocation...
so have not had time to play

Darrell & Kay Brooks wrote:

> How does the performance of the DCS-500 compare to the HBR? Also, does
> anyone have any experience with the HB-67? ( I'm in the process of building
> a deluxe version)
> 
> Regards,
> Darrell, WA5VGO
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************
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> 
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 18 15:52:32 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (LORNE BARBER)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:52:32 -0800
Subject: [HBR] dial assbly
Message-ID: <000f01c1ce94$fc96afa0$95bb17cf@default.sunwave.net>

Very interesting discussion in the last few days has prompted
me to add my 2 cents (CDn) worth.

Considering the scarcity of the origional capacitor, is it not
possible to use a two section capacitor for the pre-select and
another single section for the osc? This would certainly make
front end alignment easier.
This would also allow a little more flexability with dial
placement and would eliminate the need for the "elevated" sub
chassis, while making for a lower profile receiver overall. It
would, however, require a re-arrangement of the major
components.  This may not be in the true spirit of the HBR, but
with the difficulty of procuring origional parts it may be
necessary.

One idea would be to use the drive assbly from a ARC5 unit with
the origonal capacitor removed and a cap of choice reinstalled.
This is something I would not do with a good cap. I am not that
sadistic!  Usually there are  units around which have been
mutilated anyway so this would be a new lease on life.
>From this point it is quite easy to build a slide rule dial.
See the radio handbook Seventeenth edition, page 624 for
details. I used this system on my HB tx. Kees has pictures of
it on the HBR site.

I like the HRO dial idea.  I think it has lot of merit. It
should be possible to give the HBR a HRO 50 look with a little
work.
As for calibrating it for 1 Khz / div, well in my case anyway,
life is too short for that.

Of course, all this could be easily solved with some one
finding a warehouse full of Eddystone dials and making them
available for say, 15 or 20 dollars each.  There I go dreaming
again!

73
Lorne
VE7BOX


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 18 17:21:52 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (johnmb)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:21:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HBR] dial assbly
Message-ID: <-1486665184.1016472112453.JavaMail.SYSTEM@webmail>

Hi Lorne,

As much as I dislike paying high EPay prices, I wonder how high
they really are on this stuff. Anyone know what 9 pounds 19 Australian
was worth in dollars in 1962? I'd be willing to wager, that it's probably
near, if not more,  in "real" dollars than what we're paying now for 
this stuff. I marvel at the cost of some of the ham gear and even parts and
pieces back then. 

I think, that given inflation THESE are probably the good old years!

73
John wb5oau/4 


>On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:52:32 -0800 "LORNE BARBER"
<lbarber@mail.jetstream.net> wrote.
>Very interesting discussion in the last few days has prompted
>me to add my 2 cents (CDn) worth.
>
>Considering the scarcity of the origional capacitor, is it not
>possible to use a two section capacitor for the pre-select and
>another single section for the osc? This would certainly make
>front end alignment easier.
>This would also allow a little more flexability with dial
>placement and would eliminate the need for the "elevated" sub
>chassis, while making for a lower profile receiver overall. It
>would, however, require a re-arrangement of the major
>components.  This may not be in the true spirit of the HBR, but
>with the difficulty of procuring origional parts it may be
>necessary.
>
>One idea would be to use the drive assbly from a ARC5 unit with
>the origonal capacitor removed and a cap of choice reinstalled.
>This is something I would not do with a good cap. I am not that
>sadistic!  Usually there are  units around which have been
>mutilated anyway so this would be a new lease on life.
>From this point it is quite easy to build a slide rule dial.
>See the radio handbook Seventeenth edition, page 624 for
>details. I used this system on my HB tx. Kees has pictures of
>it on the HBR site.
>
>I like the HRO dial idea.  I think it has lot of merit. It
>should be possible to give the HBR a HRO 50 look with a little
>work.
>As for calibrating it for 1 Khz / div, well in my case anyway,
>life is too short for that.
>
>Of course, all this could be easily solved with some one
>finding a warehouse full of Eddystone dials and making them
>available for say, 15 or 20 dollars each.  There I go dreaming
>again!
>
>73
>Lorne
>VE7BOX
>
>
>************************************
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>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
>
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 18 20:11:57 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Jeff Noel)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:11:57 -0500
Subject: [HBR] DCS-500
References: <000b01c1ce24$7f2d3c20$71bd8540@lgwujvnl>
Message-ID: <001201c1ceb9$41cfe5e0$db6a2c42@hppav>

Darrell,

Where are the plans for the HB-67?

Tanks, Jeff


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Mon Mar 18 21:55:07 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Eddy Swynar)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:55:07 -0500
Subject: [HBR] DCS-500
References: <000b01c1ce24$7f2d3c20$71bd8540@lgwujvnl> <001201c1ceb9$41cfe5e0$db6a2c42@hppav>
Message-ID: <001101c1cec7$925bfb80$351fbace@greg>

Jeff...

Check the red jacketed ARRL HANDBOOK---1967, I believe...

Also, a VERY similar design (if not the same thing) appears in the 1969
orange jacketed HANDBOOK.

It's a simple enough looking circuit---I'd recommend reading the May 1965
issue of QST first, though ("Miser's Dream" receiver)...

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Noel" <k4zku@erols.com>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [HBR] DCS-500


> Darrell,
>
> Where are the plans for the HB-67?
>
> Tanks, Jeff
>
>
> ************************************
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Tue Mar 19 05:09:49 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (hbr@mailman.qth.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:09:49 EST
Subject: [HBR] DCS-500
Message-ID: <99.237f16c9.29c8221d@aol.com>

In a message dated 3/18/02 3:16:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, k4zku@erols.com 
writes:

> Where are the plans for the HB-67?

1967 ARRL Handbook

73 de Jim, N2EY

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Tue Mar 19 17:08:45 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (LORNE BARBER)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:08:45 -0800
Subject: [HBR] DCS-500
Message-ID: <001e01c1cf68$cfa91e40$adbb17cf@default.sunwave.net>

The 1966 ARRL handbook has two interesting articles.
One is a +ACI-Junior Miser's Dream+ACI- and the other is an +ACI-HB65+ACI-.
The HB 65 is very similar to the HBR receivers, less plug in
coils.
Has anyone had any experience with any of these receivers?
73
Lorne
VE7BOX


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Tue Mar 19 22:03:28 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:03:28 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Slide Rule dials
Message-ID: <20020319.160335.-251637.12.windy10605@juno.com>

Found out that Heathkit SB series equipment (tube type) has 3/4" 
solderable pulleys on the preselector shaft. These Heathkit units 
are quite common, many are parts only units, and Marty has 
agreed to send me some.  The reduction of a Jackson Bros vernier 
is actually 6.4:1 (3.2 turns stop-to-stop) so if you mount stacked 
drives to the tuning capacitor to reduce binding and for mechanical 
rigidity, solder the pulley on the second drive's shaft, you have a 
7.5" dial cord travel with 20.5 dial turns stop-to-stop. The is very 
good ham band only tuning (for 500Khz per segments). The 898
Eddystone has a 110:1 tuning rate, or 55 turns stop-to-stop which
is actually too slow for hamband tuning but great for shortwave 
tuning (several Mhz per segnment) ...my opinion, your's may vary.

Works for me, should for OK on a HBR-16 or HBR-12 size unit.

I'm going to try it on an HBR-12. 

Does anyone have any of the JW Miller 1709 or 1710 IF cans. I have
several of the ARC/5 85Khz IFs but they will be too large.

73s  Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Tue Mar 19 22:40:08 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (john)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:40:08 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Slide Rule dials
In-Reply-To: <20020319.160335.-251637.12.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20020319174008.015306bc@pop-server.nc.rr.com>

I think they "seriesed" the jackson drive on the HW101 I built.... but thats
been about 27 yrs ago! Made for a very smooth unit, with a better feel I
think, than the SB series rigs...

Sounds like it should work FB Kees...
John



At 04:03 PM 3/19/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Found out that Heathkit SB series equipment (tube type) has 3/4" 
>solderable pulleys on the preselector shaft. These Heathkit units 
>are quite common, many are parts only units, and Marty has 
>agreed to send me some.  The reduction of a Jackson Bros vernier 
>is actually 6.4:1 (3.2 turns stop-to-stop) so if you mount stacked 
>drives to the tuning capacitor to reduce binding and for mechanical 
>rigidity, solder the pulley on the second drive's shaft, you have a 
>7.5" dial cord travel with 20.5 dial turns stop-to-stop. The is very 
>good ham band only tuning (for 500Khz per segments). The 898
>Eddystone has a 110:1 tuning rate, or 55 turns stop-to-stop which
>is actually too slow for hamband tuning but great for shortwave 
>tuning (several Mhz per segnment) ...my opinion, your's may vary.
>
>Works for me, should for OK on a HBR-16 or HBR-12 size unit.
>
>I'm going to try it on an HBR-12. 
>
>Does anyone have any of the JW Miller 1709 or 1710 IF cans. I have
>several of the ARC/5 85Khz IFs but they will be too large.
>
>73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
>************************************
>Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
>construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
>
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From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Tue Mar 19 23:16:20 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Jerry Rego)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:16:20 -0000
Subject: [HBR] 5-pin connectors- sold
References: <20020311.090505.-150209.12.windy10605@juno.com> <000401c0aac4$a78b2580$7d7cf7a5@amd450>
Message-ID: <000401c1cf9c$1580e0a0$a154c943@amd450>

Your money order is on its way.  Jerry Rego
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Rego <jerryrego@mindspring.com>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [HBR] 5-pin connectors- sold


> Sounds as a deal to  me and the price is right.  Ok how do you wish
payment,
> money, check, money order.  Did you count in the cost of insurance.   I am
> very grateful that you thought of me.  I am going to us pill bottles which
> one can buy at the drug store.  My very best regards jerry Rego es 73 and
> 88s. I have enough open air capacitor.  Thank a lot
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sandy and Kees Talen <windy10605@juno.com>
> To: <HBR@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:42 AM
> Subject: [HBR] 5-pin connectors
>
>
> > I've come across a qty of new 5-pin Amphenol plugs which
> > match the 5-pin sockets used on the HBR receivers. If you adapt
> > some PVC like material or similiar, you have a coil form. Might
> > not be as great as an original Amphenol coil form, but it's still
> > available and you never know when you want to add an extra
> > band.
> >
> > Cost is $1 each plus $1.50 postage (in the US) per 5 plugs.
> >
> > 73s  Kees K5BCQ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************
> > Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> > construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >
> > HBR mailing list
> > HBR@mailman.qth.net
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
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> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Wed Mar 20 07:45:22 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Jerry Rego)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:45:22 -0000
Subject: [HBR] 5-pin connectors- sold
References: <20020311.090505.-150209.12.windy10605@juno.com> <000401c0aac4$a78b2580$7d7cf7a5@amd450>
Message-ID: <002301c1cfe3$318dffc0$667df7a5@amd450>

YOUR MONEY ORDER HAS BEEN SHIPPED.  THANKS AND 73'S  JERRY REGO  KE&YG
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Rego <jerryrego@mindspring.com>
To: <hbr@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [HBR] 5-pin connectors- sold


> Sounds as a deal to  me and the price is right.  Ok how do you wish
payment,
> money, check, money order.  Did you count in the cost of insurance.   I am
> very grateful that you thought of me.  I am going to us pill bottles which
> one can buy at the drug store.  My very best regards jerry Rego es 73 and
> 88s. I have enough open air capacitor.  Thank a lot
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sandy and Kees Talen <windy10605@juno.com>
> To: <HBR@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:42 AM
> Subject: [HBR] 5-pin connectors
>
>
> > I've come across a qty of new 5-pin Amphenol plugs which
> > match the 5-pin sockets used on the HBR receivers. If you adapt
> > some PVC like material or similiar, you have a coil form. Might
> > not be as great as an original Amphenol coil form, but it's still
> > available and you never know when you want to add an extra
> > band.
> >
> > Cost is $1 each plus $1.50 postage (in the US) per 5 plugs.
> >
> > 73s  Kees K5BCQ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************
> > Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> > construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
> >
> > HBR mailing list
> > HBR@mailman.qth.net
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr
>
>
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Wed Mar 20 16:51:31 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:51:31 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 5-pin connectors- sold
Message-ID: <20020320.115619.-108881.1.windy10605@juno.com>

OK, I'll look for it.

Kees

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Wed Mar 20 23:37:15 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Eddy Swynar)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:37:15 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Collins Mechanical Filters...
Message-ID: <000201c1d0c0$97d98dc0$1c1fbace@greg>

Hi All...

Sorry if this request has run its course before, but does anyone know if
there's a site someplace listing the many Collins mechanical filters, with
explanations as to respective centre frequency, bandwidth, etc. etc.?

A chart summary sure would be nice, if such a thing even exists!

Many thanks for your kind indulgence...

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar 21 13:50:24 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Jeff Noel)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:50:24 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Collins Mechanical Filters...
References: <000201c1d0c0$97d98dc0$1c1fbace@greg>
Message-ID: <000601c1d0df$764803c0$ee682c42@hppav>

try  www.Collinssradio.org


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar 21 13:57:25 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Jeff Noel)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:57:25 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Collins Mechanical Filters...
References: <000201c1d0c0$97d98dc0$1c1fbace@greg> <000601c1d0df$764803c0$ee682c42@hppav>
Message-ID: <000901c1d0e0$55757fa0$ee682c42@hppav>

pops to many ssss        www.collinsradio.org


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar 21 16:10:28 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Diane Swynar)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:10:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HBR] Collins Mechanical Filters...
In-Reply-To: <000601c1d0df$764803c0$ee682c42@hppav>
References: <000601c1d0df$764803c0$ee682c42@hppav>
Message-ID: <57974.198.208.223.35.1016727028.squirrel@webmail.durham.net>

Thanks, Jeff!

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ




> try  www.Collinssradio.org
>
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>  construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> Retrieve reflector archived data via http://mailman.qth.net
>
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr




From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar 21 17:28:02 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:28:02 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 7360 tubes
Message-ID: <20020321.112810.-344785.1.windy10605@juno.com>

I you were going to use a 7360 in an HBR, or any other receiver
for that matter, would you use it as the 1st mixer due to it's low
noise characteriatics or as the product detector (assume "both"
is not an option) ?  Why ?

73s  Kees K5BCQ

From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar 21 18:44:26 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Diane Swynar)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:44:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HBR] 7360 tubes
In-Reply-To: <20020321.112810.-344785.1.windy10605@juno.com>
References: <20020321.112810.-344785.1.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <25183.198.208.223.35.1016736266.squirrel@webmail.durham.net>

Kees et al...

Isn't the 7360 supposed to have superior overload characteristics as well?
For that reason alone I'd put it in the front-end of the receiver, &
simply place a couple of solid-state diodes in the product detector...

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ






> I you were going to use a 7360 in an HBR, or any other receiver
> for that matter, would you use it as the 1st mixer due to it's low
> noise characteriatics or as the product detector (assume "both"
> is not an option) ?  Why ?
>
> 73s  Kees K5BCQ
>
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and
>  construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/
>
> Retrieve reflector archived data via http://mailman.qth.net
>
>
> HBR mailing list
> HBR@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hbr




From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Thu Mar 21 21:03:44 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:03:44 -0600
Subject: [HBR] 7360 tubes
Message-ID: <20020321.150352.-344785.2.windy10605@juno.com>


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sat Mar 30 22:43:16 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Sandy and Kees Talen)
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:43:16 -0600
Subject: [HBR] Fw: Making a 100Khz IF transformer
Message-ID: <20020330.191236.-136835.0.windy10605@juno.com>

Just wanted to see if it could be done. Posted results on the web site
in the "Hints and Kinks" section ...IF transformer table. The windings 
were put on as best can with a variable speed drill. Any suggestions
for improving the passband would be appreciated. The way those 
JW Miller IFs are wound is not something I can duplicate right now.

I'm convinced the BC-453 IF transformers (which can still be found) 
are great if your project will allow for the larger transformer. This 
experiment was undertaken ....if all you have space for are the small 
3/4" retangular IFs (smaller HBR-11/12).

Also made a 1630Khz 1st IF which is much easier by pulling wire
off a lower frequency transformer.

73s  Kees K5BCQ


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 31 21:32:41 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Jeff Noel)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:32:41 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Filter
References: <20020330.191236.-136835.0.windy10605@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000201c1d8fb$979379a0$406b2c42@hppav>

Does anyone have a 9.0 mHz SSB crystal filter and carrier oscillator
crystals
such as used in many of the ARRL receiver and transmitter projects they
would
like to sell?

Thanks,

Jeff  K4ZKU


From hbr@mailman.qth.net  Sun Mar 31 23:05:18 2002
From: hbr@mailman.qth.net (Bob Duckworth, WB4MNF)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:05:18 -0500
Subject: [HBR] Filter
References: <20020330.191236.-136835.0.windy10605@juno.com> <000201c1d8fb$979379a0$406b2c42@hppav>
Message-ID: <3CA7962E.7070304@atl.org>

One can salvage filters and associated CO's
from dead CB rigs. Usually a buck or so at the hamfests
and not much more on ebay.

Jeff Noel wrote:

> Does anyone have a 9.0 mHz SSB crystal filter and carrier oscillator
> crystals
> such as used in many of the ARRL receiver and transmitter projects they
> would
> like to sell?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff  K4ZKU
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Visit the HBR Receiver Web Site with over 100 pictures of receivers and 
> construction notes...... via http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/ 
> 
> Retrieve reflector archived data via http://mailman.qth.net
> 
> 
> HBR mailing list
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