[Hammarlund] Hammarlund HQ-129X (Had become Hammarlund Digest, Vol 172, Issue 15)
Don Cunningham
donc at martineer.net
Mon Mar 30 15:09:46 EDT 2020
I changed the title of this thread to align it with its original
intent. I do hope after all the interest this one post (not by me)
generated in the 129X and that those repairing them will share symptoms
and cures. Both of mine seem to we "out in the weeds" as they say here
and will need lots of TLC. I'll be sure I share when I get to mine in
the queue.
Don, WB5HAK
On 3/30/2020 10:07 AM, Frank Barnes wrote:
> My early-model red-lettered HQ-129-X also has the "yellow" S-meter plastic,
> which is quite clear. I have replaced the light bulbs behind the main
> tuning and bandspread dials with 6.3V LED-type bulbs so the light color
> from them is different than the S-meter. But it is brighter and makes the
> tuning dials more clear. It's a non-destructive change; just plug in the
> original bulbs to return to the original condition. I'm not a purist.
> I might also be interested in having the bezel repainted as mine has the
> paint worn off in a couple of places.
>
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>> 4. I am stuck at Home. But no going stir crazy yet (n2lxm at juno.com)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:21:15 -0700
>> From: "JThorusen" <jthorusen at centcoast.com>
>> To: <Hammarlund at mailman.qth.net>, "Ray LaRue" <w4byg at att.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Hammarlund] Hammarlund Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4
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>> Greetings to Ray and the list:
>>
>> To answer one of your questions below:
>>
>> The S-meter was a dark yellow (could be described as orange) in 1963
>> when
>> I got my first HQ-129. I think that is the way they were from the
>> factory.
>> Same with the Johnson Ranger meter scale card. I think it was a style of
>> the time.
>>
>> As far as re-painting the dial bezel is concerned, I think a custom
>> silk-screen would have to be made to do the job. If you find anyone who
>> is
>> capable of restoring / re-painting one of these, please let me know. I'd
>> like to get mine done as well.
>>
>> 73,
>> Jim T.
>> KB6GM
>> jthorusen at centcoast.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ray LaRue" <w4byg at att.net>
>> To: <Hammarlund at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 16:33
>> Subject: Re: [Hammarlund] Hammarlund Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4
>>
>>
>> My 129X is apparently an early model because it does not have 15 meter
>> band spreading.
>>
>> The panel is in very good condition and has nice clear white lettering,
>> but the escutcheon around the dials looks to have some spots in the
>> paint, which appear to be small flakes off of the krinkle paint. It
>> shouldn't be much of a problem to remove the escutcheon and repaint it.
>> However that would cover the numerals for the antenna comp.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to replace those numbers so they
>> look much like the other nomenclatures on the panel?
>>
>> In addition, the S-meter window is quite orange in color. Is that
>> original? Or that just the result of old age plastic?
>>
>> Your attention is appreciated.
>> Ray, W4BYG
>>
>>
>> On 3/23/2020 5:07 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>> FWIW, the dials on my 129 are not yellowed but the dial window is. I
>>> need to make new windows, does not look difficult. I just have too
>>> much going on to get to it.
>>> Sometime I will find replacement dials for my HQ-120-X The original
>>> dials have delaminated. Not fixable, have to be replaced. This set was
>>> worked over by someone before I got it. Without tuning dials that work
>>> its hard to know if the receiver works right.
>>>
>>> On 3/23/2020 11:53 AM, A R wrote:
>>>> Very curious.
>>>> I have one early 129-X with the red panel lettering, and two later
>>>> production with the white lettering. Here's the curious thing:
>>>> Later production with s/n 14200 does NOT have the 15m bandspread.
>>>> The earlier late production s/n 13777 DOES have the 15m bandspread.
>>>> Both of the later production models have main and bandspread dials
>>>> that are not discolored (yellowed).
>>>> I suppose it's possible that s/n 13777 was retrofitted by an owner
>>>> before I took possession with the b/s dial with 15m legend. Do you
>>>> know if Hammarlund offered replacement b/s dials with the 15m scale?
>>>>
>>>> Allen--W7GIF
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* hammarlund-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> <hammarlund-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Richard Knoppow
>>>> <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2020 11:27 AM
>>>> *To:* hammarlund at mailman.qth.net <hammarlund at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Hammarlund] Hammarlund Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4
>>>> FWIW, the official designation for frequency became Hertz in
>>>> 1960.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/23/2020 11:22 AM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>>>> I wonder if any HQ-129-X were made with 15 meter dials. I
>>>>> think they had already replaced the 129 with the 140 by then.
>>>>> Possibly there were replacement dials but I have never seen
>>>>> anything in the literature about them Of course, the 129 works
>>>>> fine on 15 meters, you just have to make a logging scale for it.
>>>> --
>>>> Richard Knoppow
>>>> 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
>>>> WB6KBL
>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:26:54 -0700
>> From: Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
>> To: hammarlund at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Hammarlund] Hammarlund Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4
>> Message-ID: <dc59f2e1-ff25-5a2d-c254-0e83cb4b5c46 at ix.netcom.com>
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>> ?? My s-meter is also orange. I don't think its original but
>> discoloration from the internal pilot light. I think you just
>> have to live with it.
>> ?? The calibrations for the antenna trimmer seem to be painted
>> on the escutcheon. My guess is that it was originally done with a
>> silk screen. I suspect one could make a silk screen to duplicate
>> it. I am not an expert at that.
>>
>> On 3/24/2020 4:33 PM, Ray LaRue wrote:
>>> My 129X is apparently an early model because it does not have
>>> 15 meter band spreading.
>>>
>>> The panel is in very good condition and has nice clear white
>>> lettering, but the escutcheon around the dials looks to have
>>> some spots in the paint, which appear to be small flakes off of
>>> the krinkle paint.? It shouldn't be much of a problem to remove
>>> the escutcheon and repaint it.? However that would cover the
>>> numerals for the antenna comp.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to replace those
>>> numbers so they look much like the other nomenclatures on the
>>> panel?
>>>
>>> In addition, the S-meter window is quite orange in color.? Is
>>> that original?? Or that just the result of old age plastic?
>>>
>>> Your attention is appreciated.
>>> Ray, W4BYG
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/23/2020 5:07 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>>> FWIW, the dials on my 129 are not yellowed but the dial window
>>>> is. I need to make new windows, does not look difficult. I
>>>> just have too much going on to get to it.
>>>> ?? Sometime I will find replacement dials for my HQ-120-X The
>>>> original dials have delaminated. Not fixable, have to be
>>>> replaced. This set was worked over by someone before I got it.
>>>> Without tuning dials that work its hard to know if the
>>>> receiver works right.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/23/2020 11:53 AM, A R wrote:
>>>>> Very curious.
>>>>> I have one early 129-X with the red panel lettering, and two
>>>>> later production with the white lettering. Here's the curious
>>>>> thing:
>>>>> Later production with s/n 14200 does NOT have the 15m
>>>>> bandspread.
>>>>> The earlier late production s/n 13777 DOES have the 15m
>>>>> bandspread.
>>>>> Both of the later production models have main and bandspread
>>>>> dials that are not discolored (yellowed).
>>>>> I suppose it's possible that s/n 13777 was retrofitted by an
>>>>> owner before I took possession with the b/s dial with 15m
>>>>> legend. Do you know if Hammarlund offered replacement b/s
>>>>> dials with the 15m scale?
>>>>>
>>>>> Allen--W7GIF
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* hammarlund-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> <hammarlund-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Richard
>>>>> Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2020 11:27 AM
>>>>> *To:* hammarlund at mailman.qth.net <hammarlund at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Hammarlund] Hammarlund Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4
>>>>> ?? FWIW, the official designation for frequency became Hertz in
>>>>> 1960.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/23/2020 11:22 AM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>>>>> ?? I wonder if any HQ-129-X were made with 15 meter dials. I
>>>>>> think they had already replaced the? 129 with the 140 by then.
>>>>>> Possibly there were replacement dials but I have never seen
>>>>>> anything in the literature about them? Of course, the 129
>>>>> works
>>>>>> fine on 15 meters, you just have to make a logging scale
>>>>> for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Richard Knoppow
>>>>> 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
>>>>> WB6KBL
>>>>>
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>> 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
>> WB6KBL
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:30:42 -0700
>> From: Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
>> To: hammarlund at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Hammarlund] Hammarlund Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4
>> Message-ID: <478ebc66-eec9-c60f-00a7-31253bcc93c3 at ix.netcom.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> ?? I wonder if there are any really early color photos of the
>> 129. The dials and meter (I have a meter) for my AR-88 are the
>> same, the dials are tiger striped, alternately yellow and black.
>> The color of both dials and the meter are consistent and other
>> AR-88s I've seen were the same. So its possible H decided to make
>> their meter a nice, restful yellow.
>>
>> On 3/24/2020 5:21 PM, JThorusen wrote:
>>> Greetings to Ray and the list:
>>>
>>> To answer one of your questions below:
>>>
>>> The S-meter was a dark yellow (could be described as orange) in 1963
>> when
>>> I got my first HQ-129. I think that is the way they were from the
>> factory.
>>> Same with the Johnson Ranger meter scale card. I think it was a style
>> of
>>> the time.
>>>
>>> As far as re-painting the dial bezel is concerned, I think a custom
>>> silk-screen would have to be made to do the job. If you find anyone
>> who is
>>> capable of restoring / re-painting one of these, please let me know.
>> I'd
>>> like to get mine done as well.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Jim T.
>>> KB6GM
>>> jthorusen at centcoast.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ray LaRue" <w4byg at att.net>
>>> To: <Hammarlund at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 16:33
>>> Subject: Re: [Hammarlund] Hammarlund Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4
>>>
>>>
>>> My 129X is apparently an early model because it does not have 15 meter
>>> band spreading.
>>>
>>> The panel is in very good condition and has nice clear white lettering,
>>> but the escutcheon around the dials looks to have some spots in the
>>> paint, which appear to be small flakes off of the krinkle paint. It
>>> shouldn't be much of a problem to remove the escutcheon and repaint it.
>>> However that would cover the numerals for the antenna comp.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to replace those numbers so they
>>> look much like the other nomenclatures on the panel?
>>>
>>> In addition, the S-meter window is quite orange in color. Is that
>>> original? Or that just the result of old age plastic?
>>>
>>> Your attention is appreciated.
>>> Ray, W4BYG
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/23/2020 5:07 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>>> FWIW, the dials on my 129 are not yellowed but the dial window is. I
>>>> need to make new windows, does not look difficult. I just have too
>>>> much going on to get to it.
>>>> Sometime I will find replacement dials for my HQ-120-X The original
>>>> dials have delaminated. Not fixable, have to be replaced. This set was
>>>> worked over by someone before I got it. Without tuning dials that work
>>>> its hard to know if the receiver works right.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/23/2020 11:53 AM, A R wrote:
>>>>> Very curious.
>>>>> I have one early 129-X with the red panel lettering, and two later
>>>>> production with the white lettering. Here's the curious thing:
>>>>> Later production with s/n 14200 does NOT have the 15m bandspread.
>>>>> The earlier late production s/n 13777 DOES have the 15m bandspread.
>>>>> Both of the later production models have main and bandspread dials
>>>>> that are not discolored (yellowed).
>>>>> I suppose it's possible that s/n 13777 was retrofitted by an owner
>>>>> before I took possession with the b/s dial with 15m legend. Do you
>>>>> know if Hammarlund offered replacement b/s dials with the 15m scale?
>>>>>
>>>>> Allen--W7GIF
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* hammarlund-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> <hammarlund-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Richard Knoppow
>>>>> <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2020 11:27 AM
>>>>> *To:* hammarlund at mailman.qth.net <hammarlund at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Hammarlund] Hammarlund Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4
>>>>> FWIW, the official designation for frequency became Hertz in
>>>>> 1960.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/23/2020 11:22 AM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>>>>> I wonder if any HQ-129-X were made with 15 meter dials. I
>>>>>> think they had already replaced the 129 with the 140 by then.
>>>>>> Possibly there were replacement dials but I have never seen
>>>>>> anything in the literature about them Of course, the 129 works
>>>>>> fine on 15 meters, you just have to make a logging scale for it.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Richard Knoppow
>>>>> 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
>>>>> WB6KBL
>>>>>
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>> 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
>> WB6KBL
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:08:54 -0400
>> From: <n2lxm at juno.com>
>> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net,boatanchors at mailman.qth.net,
>> hammarlund at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Hammarlund] I am stuck at Home. But no going stir crazy yet
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>> Good Morning to All,
>>
>> Well, it was bound to happen. I got the call from my HR
>> Department last night. They have shut the plant down. Two week ago, we
>> split the plant personal into two teams. The A team ( please no jokes,
>> heard them all) and the B team. Since week get paid on a two week
>> schedule, and the company want to be sure we could get full pay, they
>> decided to do the following. Each team would work a total of 72 hours for
>> the two weeks, but get paid for 80 hours. So one week you would work five
>> 12 hours days, then the next week two 12 hours days. This was to
>> hopefully keep the risk of exposure to the staff down to a minimum. It
>> worked for the first week. But then one person tested positive for the
>> COVID-19 bug. So now the plant is closed down, till further notice. Now
>> that the weather maybe a bit warmer. I am going to get outside, do the
>> spring yard work. And if the weather turns wet again. Then it's of to the
>> shop / shack to do stuff there. Myself and my family are feeling fine.
>> Wife is a nurse at a long term care facility. No case of the bug reported
>> there yet. So everyone stay safe and well. A few weeks the hot weather
>> will be here and this will be behind us.
>>
>>
>> Jeff N2LXM
>> Amateur Radio Operator
>> American
>> Patriot
>> Proud Father of Two US Marines
>>
>>
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