[Ham-Mac] Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 5
Boog Moore
n4ctf at hotmail.com
Sat Apr 16 13:46:13 EDT 2011
Thanks' to all who replied. The price was weighing very heavily. Decision is now made - Mac Mini wins. When the purchase is made, I'll beef it up to 8G RAM and go from there. 73 all es tnx agn
ARS N4CTF
SSG (ret.)(DAV) Troy D. "Boog" Moore, JR
3687 Bible Grove Road
Lexington, Tennessee 38351-6832
n4ctf at hotmail.com
731-609-4604 (cell phone)
35 deg. 40 minutes 44.55 seconds North (35.6790)
88 deg. 16 minutes 10.57 seconds West (88.2696)
grid square = EM55uq elevation = 462 feet
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> 1. Re: Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4 (Boog Moore)
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> 3. Re: Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4 (Formsmaven)
> 4. Re: Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4 (John Merrill)
> 5. Re: Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4 (Alan Hawrylyshen)
> 6. Re: Thinking Changing to a Mac (Dick)
> 7. Re: Looking for very specific software (Gary R. Curry)
> (Thomas Lindner)
> 8. Re: Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4 (Wolfgang Mahlke)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:19:35 -0500
> From: Boog Moore <n4ctf at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Mac] Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4
> To: <ham-mac at mailman.qth.net>
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>
> In the opinion searching mode...................
>
> Looking to buy an apple to use with Ham Radio. Won't be able to buy a "Pro". Looking pretty hard at the mini, with all the RAM it will hold. Looking to do SSTV, RTTY, PSK...etc. etc.
>
> I guess what I am asking is what is the opinion of the mini for use with Ham Radio? Wife has a pro if I need to do some "serious" computing.
>
> from another dis-gruntled and angry "winders" user who is tired of "Microslop"!
>
> 73 all
>
>
>
> ARS N4CTF
> SSG (ret.)(DAV) Troy D. "Boog" Moore, JR
> 3687 Bible Grove Road
> Lexington, Tennessee 38351-6832
> n4ctf at hotmail.com
> 731-609-4604 (cell phone)
> 35 deg. 40 minutes 44.55 seconds North (35.6790)
> 88 deg. 16 minutes 10.57 seconds West (88.2696)
> grid square = EM55uq elevation = 462 feet
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:32:47 -0700
> From: Jim Lee <jlee54 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Mac] Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4
> To: Mac enthusiasts involved in amateur radio applications
> <ham-mac at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <2B0A2B8A-6010-4BC1-90F8-EAC1993D64DA at gmail.com>
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> A mini will serve you well for those applications. I use one in the shack myself, and have another in the living room serving as the media center.
>
> However, if all you want to do is get away from Windows without spending any money, you COULD use all your current hardware and just switch to Linux. Anyway, it's an option to consider...
>
> 73,
> Jim W7JLL
>
> On Apr 15, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Boog Moore wrote:
>
> >
> > In the opinion searching mode...................
> >
> > Looking to buy an apple to use with Ham Radio. Won't be able to buy a "Pro". Looking pretty hard at the mini, with all the RAM it will hold. Looking to do SSTV, RTTY, PSK...etc. etc.
> >
> > I guess what I am asking is what is the opinion of the mini for use with Ham Radio? Wife has a pro if I need to do some "serious" computing.
> >
> > from another dis-gruntled and angry "winders" user who is tired of "Microslop"!
> >
> > 73 all
> >
> >
> >
> > ARS N4CTF
> > SSG (ret.)(DAV) Troy D. "Boog" Moore, JR
> > 3687 Bible Grove Road
> > Lexington, Tennessee 38351-6832
> > n4ctf at hotmail.com
> > 731-609-4604 (cell phone)
> > 35 deg. 40 minutes 44.55 seconds North (35.6790)
> > 88 deg. 16 minutes 10.57 seconds West (88.2696)
> > grid square = EM55uq elevation = 462 feet
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:45:38 -0400
> From: Formsmaven <formsmaven at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Mac] Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4
> To: Mac enthusiasts involved in amateur radio applications
> <ham-mac at mailman.qth.net>
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> I have a 17" G5 iMac available.
>
> This is NOT an Intel mac.
> This does not have an internal camera.
>
> 1.6 G processor, 1G ram, 75 G HD. Max RAM space is 2G
> RW CD, DVD Read only
> Includes Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse
> Includes original Mac extended keyboard and mouse and all manuals that came with it. I am the original owner.
> OS supplied (original disks) 10.3.x PLUS a full install set of 10.4 (will accept up to 10.5.x)
>
> Hard disk zeroed out.
> Note: You don't need MS Office. You can download either NeoOffice or OpenOffice to get a free equivalent to MS Office; they will write and save in MS formats and will open them as well.
>
> I stopped the installation when it asked me to register the machine. Whoever picks it up can do that. Original install disks included.
>
> Note: I reinstalled the 10.3 system software fresh, and the wireless mouse seems to be working just fine.
>
> $250 plus shipping. Presently located in Rock Hall, MD.
>
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Boog Moore wrote:
>
> >
> > In the opinion searching mode...................
> >
> > Looking to buy an apple to use with Ham Radio. Won't be able to buy a "Pro". Looking pretty hard at the mini, with all the RAM it will hold. Looking to do SSTV, RTTY, PSK...etc. etc.
> >
> > I guess what I am asking is what is the opinion of the mini for use with Ham Radio? Wife has a pro if I need to do some "serious" computing.
> >
> > from another dis-gruntled and angry "winders" user who is tired of "Microslop"!
> >
> > 73 all
> >
> >
> >
> > ARS N4CTF
> > SSG (ret.)(DAV) Troy D. "Boog" Moore, JR
> > 3687 Bible Grove Road
> > Lexington, Tennessee 38351-6832
> > n4ctf at hotmail.com
> > 731-609-4604 (cell phone)
> > 35 deg. 40 minutes 44.55 seconds North (35.6790)
> > 88 deg. 16 minutes 10.57 seconds West (88.2696)
> > grid square = EM55uq elevation = 462 feet
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:55:21 -0700
> From: John Merrill <johnn1jm at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Mac] Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4
> To: Mac applications <ham-mac at mailman.qth.net>
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> Boog:
>
> I'm a big fan of Apple. I have a Macbookpro and use it for my radio other
> than contesting. But I also have a PC with Windows7. Not much difference in
> my opinion other than some malware and cost. Better choices for ham Radio
> programs on a PC. I'm not a fan of Linux. It' still a little too geeky,
> IMHO. (My flame jacket is on). The mini would be a good choice if you
> already have the peripherals.
>
> 73,
> John N1JM
>
>
> On 4/15/11 11:19 AM, "Boog Moore" <n4ctf at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > In the opinion searching mode...................
> >
> > Looking to buy an apple to use with Ham Radio. Won't be able to buy a "Pro".
> > Looking pretty hard at the mini, with all the RAM it will hold. Looking to do
> > SSTV, RTTY, PSK...etc. etc.
> >
> > I guess what I am asking is what is the opinion of the mini for use with Ham
> > Radio? Wife has a pro if I need to do some "serious" computing.
> >
> > from another dis-gruntled and angry "winders" user who is tired of
> > "Microslop"!
> >
> > 73 all
> >
> >
> >
> > ARS N4CTF
> > SSG (ret.)(DAV) Troy D. "Boog" Moore, JR
> > 3687 Bible Grove Road
> > Lexington, Tennessee 38351-6832
> > n4ctf at hotmail.com
> > 731-609-4604 (cell phone)
> > 35 deg. 40 minutes 44.55 seconds North (35.6790)
> > 88 deg. 16 minutes 10.57 seconds West (88.2696)
> > grid square = EM55uq elevation = 462 feet
> > ______________________________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:58:55 -0700
> From: Alan Hawrylyshen <alan at polyphase.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Mac] Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4
> To: Mac enthusiasts involved in amateur radio applications
> <ham-mac at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <6B0B8CF8-4F3B-4DF6-9F0D-01C12833D0E8 at polyphase.ca>
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>
>
> On Apr 15, 2011, at 11:19 , Boog Moore wrote:
>
> >
> > In the opinion searching mode...................
> >
> > Looking to buy an apple to use with Ham Radio. Won't be able to buy a "Pro". Looking pretty hard at the mini, with all the RAM it will hold. Looking to do SSTV, RTTY, PSK...etc. etc.
> >
> > I guess what I am asking is what is the opinion of the mini for use with Ham Radio? Wife has a pro if I need to do some "serious" computing.
> >
> > from another dis-gruntled and angry "winders" user who is tired of "Microslop"!
> >
>
> I've been all-mac for a decade now. Never looked back. However, I'm fairly new to ham radio. Some applications are only available under windows. This isn't a killer problem. Keep your XP (or Win7) install media and reinstall under virtual box or parallels or vmware fusion. (I use the latter for business reasons). I don't recommend dual-booting (boot camp) as you have to be in windows or the mac, but never both. With a VM you can run the windows applications along side your normal workflow. Besides it seems silly to reboot a computer just to change your application.
>
> Some (many) Ham Radio applications that are windows only can work under wine - meaning you do not need to run a windows VM.
>
> Natively, I've been playing with Aether for a logbook and using cocoaModem and/or fldigi for digital modes. On the whole, I've been very happy with my Mac and using it for hamming around. The only thing that I find annoying around ham radio is how it is a little disorganized online and tracking down an authoritative 'home' for many of the applications used by folks is tricky. Additionally, I find the closed source nature of many applications is hampering my ability to move them over to the Mac or even just help the community grow. But this is not a mac specific complaint.
>
> On the topic of which machine and do you need a pro. I'd say no. I use multiple fldigi's and some SDR software (quisk) without any issues on my Macbook Air - a fairly low power machine. I also have a mini (server) that is MORE than capable of holding down the fort. It has more compute power than the MB Air.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Alan
> K2ACK
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:14:42 -0500
> From: Dick <aa5vu at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Mac] Thinking Changing to a Mac
> To: Mac enthusiasts involved in amateur radio applications
> <ham-mac at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <0A56FD18-9F5D-4A5E-BD4D-2E495D4BF7F2 at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Boog Moore wrote:
>
> > In the opinion searching mode...................
> >
> > Looking to buy an apple to use with Ham Radio. Won't be able to buy a "Pro". Looking pretty hard at the mini, with all the RAM it will hold. Looking to do SSTV, RTTY, PSK...etc. etc.
> >
> > I guess what I am asking is what is the opinion of the mini for use with Ham Radio? Wife has a pro if I need to do some "serious" computing.
> >
> > from another dis-gruntled and angry "winders" user who is tired of "Microslop"!
> >
> > 73 all
> >
> >
> >
> > ARS N4CTF
>
> Dave,
>
> What you buy depends on what you want to do and how much you are
> willing to spend. We have a iMac, a MacBook Pro and an iPad2 and each
> has a purpose. I use iMac for ham radio applications, travel with the MBP
> and the XYL reads iBooks and plays Words-with-Friends on the iPad. Sorry
> to say but you cannot read Apple's iBooks under OS X.
>
> You will find some of the used Mac Mini's have older and slower processors
> but most processors are overkill for radio applications. If you already have
> good display, keyboard and external drive, the Mini may be good. Once you
> get used to a large display it is hard to go back. Bigger is better. HiHi.
>
> I got out of the Windows business last year when I sold my wife's Dell laptop
> and got the MacBook Pro. We have not missed Windows but I have to keep an
> up to date copy of XP Pro on the iMac for firmware updates to the Kenwood
> TS-590S. Kenwood still lives in a Windows only world. There are some very
> good ham radio applications the only run under Windows so you may want
> consider using boot camp or one of the emulators.
>
> Good luck and have some fun with the Macs. I do not think you will regret
> the decision to switch and that was Apple's intention for bringing out the Mini. It
> is a switcher unit that can later become a file server.
>
> 73 Dick AA5VU
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:06:23 +0200
> From: Thomas Lindner <DL2RUM at t-online.de>
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Mac] Looking for very specific software (Gary R.
> Curry)
> To: ham-mac at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <0657F32F-3CA2-4AC3-B7A8-7934B9F357B8 at t-online.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> RUMlog has some features you are looking for. (http://dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html) There is a Net Control Window included, with special functions requested by a user. You can create multiple databases including the following data:
> - callsign
> - name
> - qth
> - date joined
> - note
>
> A table view is provided, where you can see and edit all data. The 'net check in time' will be set automatically and there is an option to mark a station as 'temporally not available'. When the station checks out, data can be transferred to the logbook. This may be a requirement by your local authority.
>
> It's not all what you want, but maybe it is a good starting point. If you want to give it a try, you can send me your net data in text form. Then I will try to migrate these data into the database. I see no problems for adding more functions with your help.
>
> 73 de Tom, DL2RUM
>
>
>
> Am Fr., 15. Apr. 2011 um 18:00 schrieb ham-mac-request at mailman.qth.net:
>
> >
> > 1. Looking for very specific software (Gary R. Curry)
> >
> > Von: "Gary R. Curry" <k5qow at hctc.net>
> > Datum: 14. April 2011 22:14:40 MESZ
> > An: ham-mac at mailman.qth.net
> > Betreff: [Ham-Mac] Looking for very specific software
> > Antwort an: Mac enthusiasts involved in amateur radio applications <ham-mac at mailman.qth.net>
> >
> >
> > I am a Net Control Station for the Texas Traffic Net (SSB). I am looking for a program specifically designed for assisting me in that operation. Not a logging program as such, but one that offers something like the following;
> > .......
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:02:18 +0200
> From: Wolfgang Mahlke <wmahlke at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Mac] Ham-Mac Digest, Vol 87, Issue 4
> To: Mac enthusiasts involved in amateur radio applications
> <ham-mac at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <DF318B68-E415-43A6-AA21-E4B6D51E5A82 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
>
> the mini is a serious computer. mine is running as hamnet server 24/7 (df1gw.ampr.org or df1gw.dyndns.org from the net).
> and it let me run some programms like maclogger, terminals, etc. for real hamradio traffic.
> and the rest of the communication stuff skype, icq, etc.
> all at the same time
>
> it gets really busy, if I launch a linux or windows with vmWare, but i dont need that often.
>
> see my blog http://web.me.com/wmahlke/wmahlke/hamWebBlog/hamWebBlog.html (sorry german only)
>
> 73 de wolf, df1gw
>
>
> Am 15.04.2011 um 20:19 schrieb Boog Moore:
>
> >
> > In the opinion searching mode...................
> >
> > Looking to buy an apple to use with Ham Radio. Won't be able to buy a "Pro". Looking pretty hard at the mini, with all the RAM it will hold. Looking to do SSTV, RTTY, PSK...etc. etc.
> >
> > I guess what I am asking is what is the opinion of the mini for use with Ham Radio? Wife has a pro if I need to do some "serious" computing.
> >
> > from another dis-gruntled and angry "winders" user who is tired of "Microslop"!
> >
> > 73 all
> >
> >
> >
> > ARS N4CTF
> > SSG (ret.)(DAV) Troy D. "Boog" Moore, JR
> > 3687 Bible Grove Road
> > Lexington, Tennessee 38351-6832
> > n4ctf at hotmail.com
> > 731-609-4604 (cell phone)
> > 35 deg. 40 minutes 44.55 seconds North (35.6790)
> > 88 deg. 16 minutes 10.57 seconds West (88.2696)
> > grid square = EM55uq elevation = 462 feet
> > ______________________________________________________________
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