[Ham-Mac] OSX 10.5 SuperDuper and ACL errors

[Dick Kriss]

Hi Rick K6LE,

You are very lucky to have dodged the 10.5 ACL error issue. Since you are
not getting the ACL errors when you Repair Disk Permissions, you should be
able to use the current SD.  If you are not worried about having a backup,
just wait for new next SD release.

I tried SD shortly after installing 10.5 and before there was an
announcement on the SD web page.  It quit and displayed a RED note about ACL
errors and filed to make the external drive a boot drive.  The Finder could
still find the external drive and all files were backup up.  As far as I am
concerned, having any backup is better than no backup.

Once I cleared the ACL errors (100's of them) everything has been working
great.

73 Dick AA5VU


On 11/4/07 11:09 AM, "Rick Prather" <rprather at mac.com> wrote:

> I certainly wouldn't try SD until Dave says it's ready.
> 
> With TM I am not worried about using it for at least a month anyway.
> 
> I plan to use TM primarily and then once a month clone my iMac to
> another drive to be stored off site.
> 
> Remember TM will keep many versions of a file whereas SD will only
> take a snapshot in time.
> 
> Yes, I have Repaired Permissions several times and it has not yet had
> to make any repairs.
> 
> Rick
> K6LE
> 
> On Nov 4, 2007, at 7:23 AM, Dick Kriss wrote:
> 
>>> But it did work fine and all my apps except SuperDuper work
>>> fine. There will be an update for it, but with Time Machine, I don't
>>> know if I will be using it again.
>>> 
>>> Slater, VE5OA
>> 
>> Slater VE5OA (and others)
>> 
>> I am not a Time Machine fan so having something like SuperDuper is
>> very
>> important to have backup boot drive.  As you noted the SuperDuper
>> web page
>> indicates they have a new Mac OSX 10.5 version prepared but are not
>> ready to
>> release it at this time.
>> 
>> FYI, I experienced a SuperDuper failure with a RED note saying it
>> failed to
>> copy ACLs.  If try to repair your permissions using the 10.5 Disk
>> Utility,
>> it may come back with all kinds of ³ACL found but not expected  on...²
>> errors.  I don¹t think the Disk Utility cannot repair these Access
>> Control
>> List errors.
>> 
>> Once I cleared the ACL errors (that was not easy - see below ) and
>> the OSX
>> Disk Utility said everything was okay,  the current version of
>> SuperDuper
>> did its thing and I was able to boot from the cloned Leopard
>> SuperDuper
>> backup drive.
>> 
>> Another Mac user sent me a note saying he used the utility Mac Pilot
>> <http://www.koingosw.com/products/macpilot.php> to clear his 10.5 ACL
>> errors.  I download Mac Pilot and went to the "Tools" icon in the
>> menu bar,
>> selected the "Disk & Files" and then clicked on the button that says
>> "Wipe
>> Access Control List Data."  Mac Pilot did its thing for over an hour
>> but it
>> worked. Be WARNED another user points out that wiping out the ACLs
>> could
>> defeat a security feature in Leopard.
>> 
>> Apple has been totally silent on the ACL issue.  I got tired of
>> waiting on
>> Apple to do something, so I used the utility and it worked great.
>> Apple and
>> the entire team of 10.5 beta testers should be ashamed of releasing
>> Leopard
>> with the ACL permissions mess.  I do not recall any permission issues
>> inTiger.
>> 
>> The only other issue I have found is with my hp printer software,
>> but hp
>> stuff seems to be hosed on every new Mac release.  FYI, the printer
>> failed
>> because it detected and could not deal with an ACL error.
>> 
>> Sorry about the long winded shaggy dog story.  Have you checked your
>> OSX 10.5.0 permissions?
>> 
>> 73 Dick AA5VU
>> 
>> Ps: Excuse the word wrap errors. My Entourage plain text mail format
>> adds
>> a <CR> ever 72 characters with no user option to stop it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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