[Ham-Mac] What I don't like?

Michael L. Sinclair [email protected]
Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:50:24 -0700


Hello Don, and the list:

On Tuesday, April 13, 2004, at 11:49 AM, Don Agro wrote:

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> I really have to wonder if there is such a great consensus here - why 
> they are all private and off list messages to you alone ?

Well, simply, because I originally asked for 'off list' responses, 
'specifically'.  I knew how this would play out.  It always does!  Any 
time someone mentions Mac and PC in the same sentence, a handful of 
Macintosh users just freak out!  I had a specific goal in mind.  Well, 
sorry!  Goal achieved!  And it sure wasn't to attack Chris personally 
in any way  Sorry Chris, if you got hurt.  Reality sucks!  Please 
continue!

And seriously, in most everyone's experience, 90%, if not all, lists 
tend to be very 'privately' and remotely watched, most call it lurking, 
by a whole lot of very thinking and knowledgeable folks who fully and 
clearly understand the psychology of the few who sign up and constantly 
participate.  It's just a little too obvious!  I feel the same way!  
Entertaining!  Sometimes curious.  Sometimes a little knowledge is 
gained.  But overall, I am out of here!  (O.o)

The fact is, the number of 'praivate' respondents exceeded my wildest 
expectations too Don.  Sorry to disappoint you, but many continue to 
coach and encourage me, off list, and thus encourage, now us, with the 
same goals I desired!  I have made a few wonderful friends and a few 
acquaintances as a result.  And I am now struggling to reach for my 
goals, of common interest to many, in the SWL and Ham - Macintosh User 
community.
>
> Most of the posters ON list have voiced exactly the opposite 
> sentiments.

Expected response from you Don.  Define large!  Three?  Bet, I can name 
them!  ;o)  Their IP's, ISP's used, physical locations, and even one 
fellows Macintosh Serial Number and ROM Version.  Sad!  No matter!  
It's all a done deal now!

No wonder people don't participate in most lists and openly express 
their frustrations on those lists with a particular product.  And, 
Pssssst!  Never, ever attack a fellow on the list for his expressed 
opinion when one of the US Federal Government's best 'White Hat's', 
also a 'private' frustrated Macintosh user, is watching.  Whew!  I now 
feel sorry for this poor individual.  Oops!  3 minus 1 Don.

Hey fellows?  This packet sniffing, and trace back is really cool to 
watch and learn.  Sigh!  Sorry to say, on a PeeCee!  No one hides!  I 
have been really learning a lot as a result of this small effort.  New 
and better firewalls and networking tools!  Kool!  Tnx to all at 
Microsoft for the wonderful encouragement, although obviously not 
intended, in developing better firewalls, security tracing and 
networking analysis tools for the Macintosh community!  Much to learn!  
Much to learn!  ;o)
>
> I also must assume that Chris has received a large number of private 
> responses embarrassed at the tone and lack of civility in this thread 
> - I know I have received a large number of private emails to that 
> effect.

Embarrassed?  Civility?  Funny, you're the 'one' and only person to 
write that down!  Expected!  This side of three total wacko's that 
freaked out, resorted to name calling, firewall attacks, all at the 
very mention of the phrase 'PeeCee'.  Also, expected!

Hey?  Get over it!  I feel, just like the other 22 who have responded 
to my 'private' off list request, that I was personally ripped off!  I 
paid for a working 'Shareware' product that doesn't work worth beans.  
End of Point!  Sorry Chris!  Please keep working at it!

Don, I really encourage Chris to continue in his efforts.  I don't hate 
the man.  I don't even know the man.  I wish Chris the very best in 
blessings all the way around!  Although, I really hope he's not trying 
to make a living at this?  Just please?  I ask Chris to consider the 
quality and performance of MultiMode, for which he so beautifully, 
(great web site), markets and asks for money!  Done!

> But good luck with your new project - the more people writing software 
> for the Mac Ham market - the more Hams will use Macs and that's good 
> for everyone.

Luck has nothing to do with it.  Luck is for the blind and deceived.  I 
don't gamble at chance.  Leaned that lesson long ago as a child Don.

Simply, I demand to use my iBook when traveling to decode several modes 
of interest, and so obviously, 'privately', do many others.  We all 
want a quality product which performs as advertised and is worth every 
penny that I paid for and much more!  Not someone's experimental 
continuing programming efforts.  However, in frustration, in the mean 
time, I'll take along a darned PC Laptop with a program that actually 
works as advertised and sold.

Thanks Don.  I appreciate your remarks and your defense of Chris's 
MultiMode.  Your individual work is very much appreciated.  Please 
continue!  I have however, abandoned your product, MacDopplerPro, for 
other embedded software and hardware, namely RIG projects, and TimeStep 
controllers, but it was fun while it lasted Don.  And I got exactly 
what I paid for, and more, from your fine efforts.  Thank you very much 
Don!

Well!  Good Bye All!  I am going to back off the list now fellows!  
Goal achieved!  A lot of work to accomplish, a lot to learn now!  Some 
great new friends!  Thanks again to all those who were lurking with me 
off in the side bars and came forward!  I will try to watch this, 
ahhhhh, support 'Don and Chris's programming' list from time to time 
for entertainment but will not be responding to the list any longer.  
Ooooooooooooooooh!  Parting shot!!!  Everybody together now - YEAH!!!!! 
  "He's taking his PC's and expensive software and leaving!".  (O^O)  
Yes, for a much better world.  Thanks!  No!  I am not mad!  Rather - 
very amused, content, fascinated, (>.>), (<.<), and very busy!

Write me directly please!  And watch for a new development group list 
to arrive in due time!  Don't have a clue as to when or where!  My 
guess, about a year.
;o)
73's to All,
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Michael
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