[Ham-Mac] OS X development

[Sergei Ludanov]

Gentlemen,

It was not my intent to start discussion on dev tools. One uses tools 
he/she likes. That is it. Than it is necessary to remember that there is 
no universal solution. You choose the tool that suits your needs. I agree 
that Real Basic is a great tool for certain tasks, C/C++/Objective C is 
better for another. It is possible that RB is more simple than Objective C,
  but if you programmed in C, Obj C probably easier to learn than totally 
new language.  Another thing that Project Builder is free, for anything 
else you have to pay. As soon as I chose Project Builder as a development 
tool, there were no question what to use Cocoa or Carbon. It really does 
not make sense to use Carbon with Project Builder unless you are trying to 
convert existing classic code to OS X. Otherwise Cocoa is just plainly 
easier to program. I never said that Carbon programs any worse or better 
than Cocoa on OS X. It is just that with Cocoa you get things for "free", 
which would require rathe elaborate programming in Carbon.

73 and best weekend to all,

Sergei KD6CJI

On Saturday, February 16, 2002, at 07:05 , Chris Smolinski wrote:

>> on 16/2/02 2:01 am, Sergei Ludanov at kd6cji@mac.com wrote:
>>
>>> The one thing is right in this article is that Cocoa application will 
>>> have
>>> less code to write for the same functionality compared to Carbon, 
>>> besides
>>> Objective C is much more elegant than C++ as programming language and
>>> easier to learn. I just started programming on Mac (programmed PCs in C
>>> and C++ and mainframes in various languages) and I can tell that I have
>>> not seen better environment to work with than Cocoa. As for 
>>> compatibility
>>> issue (can run Carbon on pre OS X machines), in a couple years the
>>> majority will run OS X anyway. Look at PC developers, nobody writes DOS
>>> and Windows 3.1 programs...
>>
>> Have you seen and tried REALBasic though?  - One of the many points this
>> article made clear was how much easier and quicker it was to write an
>> application in RB than in objective-C.
>
> Well, yeah, the author of the article *is* somewhat biased, no? ;-)
>
>> The ability to compile for Mac OS 8, Mac OS 9, Mac OS X, and Windows 95
>> through Windows XP from one source is a key advantage.
>
> Definately true. I wrote the software for the radiation detector (GM-10
> geiger counter) I sell with RB, that allowed me to do both Mac, OSX, and
> Win builds all from one set of source, with minimal conditional compiling.
> http://www.blackcatsystems.com/GM/ for details
>
> The major disadvantage for me, which stops me from using RB for many of my
> applications, is that it is just too darn slow. MultiMode written in RB is
> just not going to happen.
>
>
> ---
> Chris Smolinski
> Black Cat Systems
> http://www.blackcatsystems.com
> Macintosh Software
> GM-10 Radiation detection system
>
>
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