[Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory

Thu Mar 6 16:31:17 EST 2008

Ok, I understand.

However Loren, I prefer to be as efficient and complete as I possibly can 
be. Hence, I would rather take three seconds to create a new temp directory 
then to risk not getting rid of data I may have overlooked etc.

As I said, it is as simple as it can be to create a directory with the "MD" 
command.

The primarily reason that I use Professional Write Version 2.22, the last 
DOS version released, is because it is so efficient, user friendly and easy 
to use. I can do things with it that using a mouse to do is either lengthy 
or way too complex. Why highlight a world or line when I can delete it with 
a single keystroke? Quick. Efficient 100%. Easy to remember. No worry over 
dragging or dropping or highlighting etc.

I can also do a number of edit operations not possible with most Windows 
based word processing programs.

I wrote most of the software that I use on a daily basis Loren. My 
Expense/Income program takes up 19K! I can fit the program, supporting files 
and expense/income records for the past twenty years on a single 1.44 Meg 
floppy diskette! With room left over!

The Compaq Prosario 233 MHZ P1 machine I had the hard drive failure on after 
over 30,000 hours of use, a 6.5 Gig drive uder Windows 95B, had 2.6 GIG not 
used on it! It is shocking how much space Windows wastes! DOS can do many of 
the same tasks just as fast and use 80% less RAM and 90%+ HD storage area.

Granted, since I am now totally blind, I do not store many photos on my 
systems. However, I do have some just the same, but not as many as most 
sighted users have.

I never upgrade just because, as most of the time, it is an invitation for 
problems.

But I learned about computers when every bit and byte mattered, so I trained 
myself to maximize software and routines for the best results with the least 
time used and space required. I wrote a bubble sort that would put one 
thousand movie titles into alphabetical order in 1.7 seconds on an IBM XT 
running at 4.77 MHZ! That was in 1984 and I doubt todays computers can do 
any better!

Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer at usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
http://www.w9wze.net
HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
hhrp.w9wze.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Loren Moline WA7SKT" <lmoline at hotmail.com>
To: "Computers (or other) used for amateur radio, communications, or 
experimenting" <ham-computers at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory

>
> Duane,
>
> I purposely left the thurs as it represents your temp. Then you don't have 
> to make the temp directory again.
>
> Loren
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>> From: dfischer at usol.com
>> To: ham-computers at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory
>> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:12:43 -0500
>>
>> Loren,
>>
>> What you did was to instruct deltree to leave the directory and to remove
>> the sub-directories.
>>
>> I know it works, I just did it again on the machine using three
>> sub-directories. Do as I said, just type: deltree C:\thurs and press
>> "enter". The directory 'thurs', and all sub-directories, will be gone OM.
>>
>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> dfischer at usol.com
>> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> http://www.w9wze.net
>> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> hhrp.w9wze.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Loren Moline WA7SKT" <lmoline at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Computers (or other) used for amateur radio, communications, or
>> experimenting" <ham-computers at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:58 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Duane,
>> >
>> > I just went to dos prompt.
>> >
>> > At C prompt I typed md thurs....then cd thurs...then md fri.
>> >
>> > So now I had a directory Thurs which had a directory fri in it.
>> >
>> > I typed cd\ to get back to c prompt.
>> >
>> > I typed in deltree c:\thurs\
>> > Now the fri directory was gone but the thurs was there and all it had 
>> > was
>> > 2 empty directories.
>> >
>> > Loren
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> From: dfischer at usol.com
>> >> To: ham-computers at mailman.qth.net
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory
>> >> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 14:50:44 -0500
>> >>
>> >> No, Loren. I have done it. Everything goes away.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> >> dfischer at usol.com
>> >> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> >> http://www.w9wze.net
>> >> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> >> hhrp.w9wze.net
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Loren Moline WA7SKT" <lmoline at hotmail.com>
>> >> To: "Computers (or other) used for amateur radio, communications, or
>> >> experimenting" <ham-computers at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:16 PM
>> >> Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Duane,
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe if you use deltree c:\temp\ that the temp directory will 
>> >> > stay
>> >> > but will be cleaned out ..
>> >> >
>> >> > Loren
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> From: lmoline at hotmail.com
>> >> >> To: ham-computers at mailman.qth.net
>> >> >> Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory
>> >> >> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:07:56 -0800
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Duane,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You can use switches and wildcard in the deltree command I believe.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> you could type deltree c:\temp\*.* / whatever switches to delete
>> >> >> subdirectories or empty directories I believe.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Loren
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > From: dfischer at usol.com
>> >> >> > To: ham-computers at mailman.qth.net
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory
>> >> >> > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 14:04:10 -0500
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Understood Loren. However, when one can not "see" the display, 
>> >> >> > one
>> >> >> > knows not
>> >> >> > what is tagged or highlighted. Hence, I prefer to use a DOS 
>> >> >> > command,
>> >> >> > such as
>> >> >> > "deltree" which I know does the entire job with one quick command
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > messing around highlighting etc. You should try it Loren, way
>> >> >> > faster,
>> >> >> > safer
>> >> >> > and more efficient then using the mouse.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The format: deltree c:\directory name
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You will receive a Y/N prompt as to whether or not to delete the
>> >> >> > indicated
>> >> >> > folder, or directory, and all of its contents. Press "Y" and 
>> >> >> > enter.
>> >> >> > It
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > done.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > To recreate the temp directory: from the C:\ prompt. Type "MD"
>> >> >> > followed
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > the desired directory name, press enter. Such as, MD temp
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > To remove an empty directory, just type: "RD" and the directory
>> >> >> > name,
>> >> >> > press
>> >> >> > enter.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> >> >> > dfischer at usol.com
>> >> >> > HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> >> >> > http://www.w9wze.net
>> >> >> > HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> >> >> > hhrp.w9wze.net
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> > From: "Loren Moline WA7SKT" <lmoline at hotmail.com>
>> >> >> > To: "Computers (or other) used for amateur radio, communications, 
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > experimenting" <ham-computers at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:43 PM
>> >> >> > Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Duane,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Please excuse me for interupting but you can tag all the 
>> >> >> > > folders
>> >> >> > > within
>> >> >> > > the temp folder at once and delete them all.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Loren
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >> From: dfischer at usol.com
>> >> >> > >> To: aaron.hsu at nbcuni.com; Ham-Computers at mailman.qth.net
>> >> >> > >> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:42:18 -0500
>> >> >> > >> CC:
>> >> >> > >> Subject: [Ham-Computers] Re: Temp Directory
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Aaron,
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Why not invoke the command prompt, from the C:\ screen, use
>> >> >> > >> "deltree" and
>> >> >> > >> remove the temp directory and all of the sub-directories? The 
>> >> >> > >> use
>> >> >> > >> "MD" to
>> >> >> > >> make a new temp directory?
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Otherwise I have forty some sub-directories within the temp
>> >> >> > >> directory
>> >> >> > >> that I
>> >> >> > >> will have to manually empty.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Unless, that is, I must retain the temp directory with all of
>> >> >> > >> those
>> >> >> > >> sub-directories intact! I have never heard of such a thing, 
>> >> >> > >> but
>> >> >> > >> then
>> >> >> > >> again,
>> >> >> > >> I am still happy in my DOS cave!
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> >> >> > >> dfischer at usol.com
>> >> >> > >> HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> >> >> > >> http://www.w9wze.net
>> >> >> > >> HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> >> >> > >> hhrp.w9wze.net
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> > >> From: "Hsu, Aaron (NBC Universal)" <aaron.hsu at nbcuni.com>
>> >> >> > >> To: "I>Ham-Computers" <Ham-Computers at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:57 PM
>> >> >> > >> Subject: RE: Temp Directory
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > Good day, Duane (et al),
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > On your system, you can safely delete the contents of the
>> >> >> > >> > C:\TEMP
>> >> >> > >> > folder.
>> >> >> > >> > But, you need to keep the TEMP folder itself as the "TEMP" 
>> >> >> > >> > and
>> >> >> > >> > "TMP"
>> >> >> > >> > environment variables point to C:\TEMP.  By default, 
>> >> >> > >> > Win2K/XP
>> >> >> > >> > point
>> >> >> > >> > "TEMP"
>> >> >> > >> > and "TMP" to a TEMP folder within the user profile of 
>> >> >> > >> > whoever's
>> >> >> > >> > logged-on,
>> >> >> > >> > but I prefer to create a "common" TEMP folder on the root to
>> >> >> > >> > make
>> >> >> > >> > finding
>> >> >> > >> > and emptying the TEMP folder easier.  If the TEMP folder is
>> >> >> > >> > missing,
>> >> >> > >> > then
>> >> >> > >> > some apps will not work as they can't find the TEMP folder
>> >> >> > >> > referenced
>> >> >> > >> > by
>> >> >> > >> > the environment variables.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > So, again, it's safe to delete the contents of the folder, 
>> >> >> > >> > but
>> >> >> > >> > not
>> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> > >> > folder itself.  Also, since Windows usually has some temp 
>> >> >> > >> > files
>> >> >> > >> > open,
>> >> >> > >> > you
>> >> >> > >> > may not be able to delete all the files.  But, you should be
>> >> >> > >> > able
>> >> >> > >> > to
>> >> >> > >> > delete a majority of them.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > 73,
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >  - Aaron, NN6O
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:24 PM
>> >> >> > >> > Subject: [Ham-Computers] Re Temp Directory
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Hello All,
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > This system is a Compaq business system, but at my request,
>> >> >> > >> > using
>> >> >> > >> > Windows
>> >> >> > >> > XP
>> >> >> > >> > Home Edition as the OS.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > The C:\ root shows a 'temp' directory created by Windows. It
>> >> >> > >> > contains
>> >> >> > >> > 44
>> >> >> > >> > sub-directories. The HD space used is about 71 billion.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Everything contained in the directory, as well as the
>> >> >> > >> > sub-directories,
>> >> >> > >> > Windows put there, not I.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Is there any reason as to why I can not simply delete the
>> >> >> > >> > entire
>> >> >> > >> > directory?
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Thank you.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
>> >> >> > >> > dfischer at usol.com
>> >> >> > >> > HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
>> >> >> > >> > http://www.w9wze.net
>> >> >> > >> > HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
>> >> >> > >> > hhrp.w9wze.net
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
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