[Ham-Computers] Front Page 2003

[jeff]

Marty wrote:
> I went to Dreamweaver from FP200/2003 (both in XP). Actually, I didn't know
> how serious the problems were with FP until I started polling website
> viewers. When I started to realize that everyone was not seeing the same
> layouts that I was, 

I used to view the pages in as many different browsers as I could.
It worked out well (either that or no one bothered complaining).

These days, it's almost illegal to NOT use javascript, tables, CSS, and 
of course, flash.  I think they all get in the way of browsing, but 
that's apparently not a majority opinion.

Plain old html displays quickly enough in any browser.  As soon as you 
start with the eye candy, you slow things down.  In some case, you also 
make browsing less safe.

None other than vaunted security guru Steve Gibson (grc.com) won't use 
any of that stuff on his page.  He wants everyone to be able to see the 
page, and do so quickly and safely.  I love his attitude.

There are many sites I can't view due to lack of flash.  It doesn't seem 
to have harmed me much as a person :)   This in addition to the ones 
that ONLY work in IE.  Nothing pisses me off faster than being forced to 
use a certain browser or the page won't work.


And now I'll define irony:
My company cares not a whit about security.  I had to introduce them to 
virus protection (semi-forcibly).  We spent the greater part of a year 
eradicating the desktops of Internet Explorer, that great Swiss Cheese 
of browsers (full of holes).  We even changed Firefox's icon to the IE 
icon so people wouldn't complain.

As if on cue, the company just purchased a major new piece of software 
that will only run on IE.  Period.

I am going to suggest they go all the way and shut down the firewall too :)





> intelligent enough to have solved that problem. The major problem I have now
> is with pages I imported from FP. Even Dreamweaver can't fix them. The other
> problem I have is messing the pages up by my own stupidity. Thankfully, I've
> been able to recover from my errors and even stumble into making
> improvements ;)

Marty - that's how you learn!

Just make sure to keep multiple copies of your work and save often. 
Some software will autosave for you.

Another technique I used was to go to a page I liked and do a VIEW 
SOURCE on it.  It will display the code used to put the page together. 
After a bit of research, you'll know how it was done and can set about 
doing something like it yourself.  View everything; steal the best bits 
for our own stuff.

HTML editors have help for the code.  There are a TON of pages online on 
web page creation, code, definitions, etc.  It's all yours for the reading.