[Ham-Computers] RE: While Nero Fiddle The CD Burned - Help Guys!

Tue Feb 7 20:17:51 EST 2006

Aaron,

Once I create the directory on the HD and have the desired files in it, 
could I move them to the other system by copying two at a time on a zip disc 
and putting them in an identical directory?

Thank you.

Duane W8DBF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hsu, Aaron (NBC Universal)" <aaron.hsu at nbcuni.com>
To: "I>Ham-Computers" <Ham-Computers at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: [Ham-Computers] RE: While Nero Fiddle The CD Burned - Help Guys!

> Duane,
>
> .CDA files are short pointers to the actual .WAV files on the CD.  In
> order to get the .WAV files, you need to use an an application to "RIP"
> the raw audio from the CD (and ignore the .CDA files).  Each track is a
> seperate .WAV file stored on the CD, so you can rip individual tracks
> from the CD.  I believe the original intent of the .CDA files was so
> that computer applications could find and access the actual .WAV file
> for playback, but not allow a person to easily "drag-n-drop" or copy the
> .WAV (which is a perfect digital copy) - a simple form of copy
> protection.  Today, many free utilities are available to rip audio and
> save the "perfect" .WAV file or convert it into smaller "compressed"
> formats (such as MP3, AAC, WMA, etc).
>
> Nero Express is able to rip audio and save it as one of several
> supported formats (including .WAV).  Here are the step-by-step
> instructions:
>
> 1. Start the Nero Express interface
>
> 2. In the main Nero Express window, click on the "More >>" button.  This
> should open a bottom panel with several additional buttons.
>
> 3. Put an audio CD in the CD/DVD-ROM drive and click on the "Save
> Tracks" button.
>
> 4. Nero will give you an option to retrieve track information via the
> CDDB database.  If you have in internet connection, you can allow Nero
> to retrieve the track info (name, artist, play time, etc) if there is an
> I S R C (International Standard Recording Code) label on the CD
> (basically a digital album label).
>
> 5. Nero then scans the CD and identifies all the tracks available on the
> CD (there should be one track for every .CDA file that was visable in a
> Windows explorer).  The "track list" shows these files and Nero
> highlights them all by default.  You can leave them all highlighted or
> select tracks one by one.
>
> 6. Set the "output way" to "Digital" (rather than "analogue").  This
> ensures that you're digitally copying bit-for-bit and not using the
> analogue out from the CD/DVD-ROM drive (which would then be subject to
> DAC conversion loss (one generation)).
>
> 7. Change the "Output file format" to the file format you want.  PCM
> will save the file as .WAV (which is what a .WAV file really is).
>
> 8. The "Settings" button next to the "Output file format" allows you to
> tweak the settings for the output type you selected.  For .WAV, the
> "standard" is 44KHz, 16-bit Stereo.
>
> 9. Set the "Path" to where you want to save the ripped audio.  Make sure
> you have enough disk space to store the files!  The general rule of them
> is 10MB per minute for "standard" .WAV audio.
>
> 10. Select the "File name creation method".  "Manual" uses a pre-defined
> template of Artist, a dash, track title, a dot, and the extension
> (.WAV).  "User Defined" allows you to define your own method.  The
> artist and track title names are based on the CDDB retrieved
> information, if you did a CDDB retrieve.  If not, I believe it just uses
> "Track 01", "Track 02", "Track 03", etc.
>
> 11. The "Options" button will open a bottom panel with a few additional
> options.  You may want to select "Jitter correction" to remove jitter
> errors during the ripping process.  Also, the "Read speed" can be
> reduced if the CD/DVD-ROM drive is experiencing problems reading the CD
> - this might be caused by scratches or dirt on the CD or a poorly
> recorded CD/CD-R.
>
> 12. Click "GO" to start the ripping process.  This might take some time
> depending on what options were selected.  Ripping to .WAV is the fastest
> as it's just copying exactly what's on the CD.  The other formats
> require a conversion step which takes time.  Also, Jitter Correction may
> also slow down the process if many errors need to be corrected.
>
> 13. When done, you should be back at the "Save Track" screen where you
> can select another track to rip or "Close" the window.
>
>
> That's about it.  The .WAV audio files are now available on the hard
> drive for you to compile in any manner you wish.  If you want to create
> a custom audio compilation CD, then you would start an "Audio CD"
> project in Nero Express, then add the tracks you want to put on the CD,
> then burn.
>
> Oh, and you can't "Name" an audio CD in Nero as audio CD's were not
> designed to have a volume label (except the ISRC).  Nero will allow you
> to name Data CD's, but not audio CD's.  If you wish to use a unique name
> for each data CD, then you'll need to create a compilation and burn via
> the normal Nero Express route.  At the end of the burn, you're given the
> option to "Burn the same project again", or, "Save the project".  "Burn
> project again" takes you back to the "Burn" window where you can change
> the disc name and burn another disc.  Saving the project allows you to
> come back at a later time to burn the same compilation again (as long as
> you haven't deleted the source files from your drive).
>
> Also, you can't change the name of disc using "Copy disc".  The "Copy
> disc" is a one-for-one copy that also copies the existing volume label
> (if any).  To add or change the volume label on an existing disc, you'll
> need to copy all the data off the disc to your hard disk, create a new
> compilation, and burn with the new label.  There are some tools out
> there that will allow you to change the label of an ISO file, but ISO
> files are for data discs, not audio discs.
>
>
> 73,
>
>  - Aaron, NN6O
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:48 PM
> Subject: [Ham-Computers] While Nero Fiddle The CD Burned - Help Guys!
>
>  *** snip ***
>
> Do I have to convert the .cda to .wav first and then copy the .wav files
> or?
>
> I can copy them if I select "copy CD", but it does let me name the disc.
>
> They are "audio CD" by default. Additionally, after making a copy it
> asks me
> if I would like to burn anohter copy of the same disc? It is already in
> the
> temp dir on the HD, of course. I say "yes", but it still asks for the
> original CD just the same!
>
> How do I copy the CD, how do I name it and how do I change the disc name
> for
> each copy without having to use the master every time?
>
>  *** snip ***
>
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