[Ham-Computers] RE: windows stuff

Fri Sep 2 13:09:16 EDT 2005

I believe the 80486 was a CPU, the first of the Intel CPU"s to have the math 
coprocessor on the same chip as the CPU. The 80386 was the predecessor to 
the 80486 and could use a math coprocessor (I forgot its nomenclature, 
perhaps 80387??) or math software routines. I do not remember if a math 
coprocessor was available for the 80286. I think it was (perhaps 80287??).

                   Rolly

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcel Buijs" <Marcel.Buijs at wxs.nl>
To: "Computers (or other) used for amateur radio, communications, or 
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Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] RE: windows stuff

> an inpressing list, but not complete..
>
> My first XT was an Laser XT2 (4.7 and 10 Mhz, in speed mode)
>
> the 80486 are mathematical Co-processors, not CPU's.
> they can enhanced the speeds of the PC, only with programms who are 
> special
> write for 486..
>
> I miss the Intel 186, Intel P4 and Intel Celeron versions, also MY CPU:
> Intel Pentium 4 3GHz HT.
>
> Marcel
>
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>
>
> Hmmmm, x86 CPU history...scratching my head...
>
> Original IBM PC and PC/XT - 4.77MHz
> IBM PC/AT - first 6MHz, then 8MHz
>
> Various CPU's by Intel, AMD, TI, Cyrix, etc.
> 8088 4.77MHz, 7.16MHz, 8MHz, 10MHz
> 8086 4.77MHz, 5MHz, 8MHz
> NEC V20 and V30 (8088 and 8086 alternatives) - 8MHz, 10MHz, and I think
> 12MHz
> 80286 - 6MHz, 8MHz, 10MHz, 12MHz, 16MHz.  Unoficially, there was a 20MHz
> version too.
> 80386DX - 16MHz, 20MHz, 25MHz, 33MHz, and some 40MHz
> 80386SX (80386DX with a 16-bit data path) - 16MHz, 20MHz, 25MHz
> 80486DX - 16MHz, 20MHz, 25MHz, 33MHz, 40MHz, 50MHz
> 80486DX/2 - (486DX with 2x internal clock) - 50MHz, 66MHz
> Note: from this point forward, x86 processors are all internally clock
> multiplied with a slower "front side bus".
>
> 386SLC, 486DLC - "hybrid" chips by TI and IBM - essentially a 486 core 
> with
> a 386 die-size and data bus.
> 80486DX/4 - (486DX with 3x internal clock) - 75MHz, 90MHz, 100MHz, 120MHz
> 80486SX, SX/2 - same as 486DX without the internal math co-processor
> Pentium - 60MHz, 66MHz, 75MHz, 90MHz
> Pentium II - 233, 266, 300, 333, 350, 400, 450MHz
> Pentium III - 500, 550, 600, 650, 667, 700, 733, 750, 800, 850, 900, 933,
> 950, 1GHz, 1.1GHz
> AMD K6 - Pentium compatible processor by AMD - 75, 90, 100, 120, 133, 166,
> 200, 233, 266MHz versions.
> AMD K6-2, K6-2/3D - AMD's answer to the P-II, but still used the same
> "Socket 7" used by original Pentium processors.  233, 266, 300, 333, 350,
> 366, 400, 433, 450, 466, 500, 533, 550MHz.
> AMD K6-3 - AMD's attempt to keep "Socket 7" alive.  Not many were sold as
> the "Duron" and "Athlon" were released around the same time.  400, 450, 
> 500,
> 550MHz
>
> I'll stop the list here as I think most are familiar with the current 
> Intel
> and Pentium processors (although the Intel "M" series might need some
> discussion).  This list is not all-inclusive...there were other x86
> processors in the mix too.
>
>
> And, just for fun, here's my hardware "history".  It's long, so press
> "delete" now if you wish.
>
>
> Atari 2600 (actually Sears Video Arcade) - later sent in to Atari for
> "upgrading" to support newer games like Space Invaders and Missle Command.
> Before the upgrade, Space Invaders didn't display correctly on screen.  I
> later added the Arcadia "SuperCharger" system to it.
>
> TI-99/4A
> Commodore 64 w/1541 disk drive
> Home-brewed PC clone, 8088 @ 4.77MHz two floppy drives, no HD.
> Added 30MB Seagate ST-238 RLL drive and controller for $399.
> Changed the CPU to an NEC V20
> Added the "Microspeed" speed booster circuit to bump the speed to 7.16MHz.
> See, overclocking isn't a new idea at all!
> Thanks to my Aunt, added a 2MB EMS memory board and an 8087 co-processor
> Upgrade motherboard to 12MHz 80286.
> Upgrade HD to Mitsubishi 60MB RLL
> Upgrade video to EGA, but stuck with CGA monitor...more colors though (16
> out of 64)!
> Upgrade to NEC MultiSync II monitor
> Added the original "Adlib" sound card
> Upgrade to 386sx-16
> Upgrade to 386DX motherboard with 25MHz cpu, then 486DLC-40MHz CPU
> Upgrade to Orchid ProDesigner II VGA video (VLB)
> Upgrade to Microscience 3.5" 120MB IDE hard drive
> Upgrade to 66MHz 486DX/2 CPU (and motherboard), overclocked to 80MHz
> Upgrade to Number 9 GXE64 Pro video card (VLB)
> Upgrade to 100MHz DX/4 CPU
> Upgrade audio to MediaVision Pro Audio Spectrum, later upgraded to MV 
> PAS-16
> Upgrade to Pentium 120MHz
> Upgrade video to Number 9 Motion 771 PCI
>
> Wow...things are getting fuzzy...
>
> Added Turtle Beach "Maui" sampled MIDI playback card
> Upgrade to Pentium 166MHz, then 233MHz with a motherboard change or two.
> Upgrade to Matrox Millenium, then Millenium II, then Millenium G400MAX 
> video
> Upgrade to Turtle Beach "Multisound Monterey" sound card
> Upgrade to Turtle Beach "Tropez Plus" sound card
> Upgrade to Pentium-II motherboard & 266MHz CPU, then 350MHz
> Upgrade to ViewSonic 15GS monitor
> Upgrade audio to TBeach Montego II Quadzilla
> Upgrade to Pentium-III motherboard and 733MHz CPU, then 866MHz
> Upgrade to TBeach Santa Cruz sound card
> Upgrade to NVidia "Quadro" based video
> Upgrade to ViewSonic VG150 15" LCD Flat Panel (analog)
> Upgrade to Intel 7205 based motherboard (first with with Dual Channel RAM
> support)
> Installed 2.2GHz CPU, then 2.53GHz, and currently at 3.06GHz
> Upgrade to NVidia GeForce4 4200Ti video
> Upgrade to ViewSonic VX500+ 15" LCD Flat Panel (digital)
> Upgrade to NVidia GeForceFX 5900XT video
> Upgrade to ViewSonic VP171 15" LCD Flat Panel (digital)
>
> Along the way, there have been many case changes, but I usually kept the
> same power supply unless it no longer fit the new case.  Current case is 
> an
> Antec P180.  Current power supply is a PC Power and Cooling Silencer 
> 400ATX.
> There were also many HD changes and for about 3 years I had an all SCSI
> system (hard drives, scanner, tape backup, ZIP drive).  I switched back to
> IDE drives, but I still use most of the other SCSI devices.
>
> Also along the way, I had an original Nintendo Entertainment System (NES),
> an NEC TurboGrafix-16 (like the TI-99/4A, great technology, poor 
> marketing,
> and same fate though it was a hit in Japan), and a Sony PlayStation.  When
> Mattel re-introduced the Intellivision as the Intellivision II, I bought 
> it
> and one game...Discs of Tron - my favorite game on that system.  Returned 
> it
> for a refund after two weeks because I remembered why I hated the
> Intellivision so much...that "disc" controller was murder on the thumbs!
>
> Currenty inventory (of primary system):
> Gigabyte GA-8INXP Motherboard (Intel 7205 "Grantsdale" chipset)
> 3.06GHz Intel Pentium-4 over-clocked at 3.31GHz
> 1GB Dual Channel RAM
> 350GB total drive space (plus a stockpile of 2.5" drives)
> Nvidia 5900XT based video
> Turtle Beach Santa Cruz audio
> LeadTek WinFast 2000 TV Tuner and video Capture card
> Adaptec 19160 LVD SCSI controller
> Pioneer DVR-A07XLB DVD Recorder
> Plextor 12/10/32 SCSI CD-R drive
> HP LTO-1 100GB SCSI Tape Backup
> UMAX PowerLook III SCSI scanner (1200dpi optical)
> Nikon LS-20 Slide Scanner
> Iomega ZIP 250 and 750 drives
> ViewSonic VP171 17" TFT Flat Panel
> Epson Stylus 880i and R300 printers for color
> HP LaserJet 5M for black and white
> Antec P180 Mid-Tower case (more like two-thirds tower)
> PC Power and Cooling Silencer 400ATX power supply
> Somewhere around I also have SyQuest 230MB and 1.5GB cartridge drives.
>
> Anyways...again, Duane, look what you started!
>
>
>  - Aaron, NN6O
>
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