[Ham-Computers] RE: Where do they go?

[Philip Atchley]

Aaron et al,

Thank you for all the good information.  The question was primarily 
about the "where does it go" ;-)

However, I worked on the network more yesterday.  At this point I'm 
going to hold off on any further work on it until this computer is 
replaced and we're BOTH using computers with XP installed.  I think 
it'll be much simpler then. 

As for connecting the printer to the router (this machine isn't always 
on, though it usually is), the HP-1012 is an "econo" LaserJet with only 
a USB port.  It'd probably be as cheap to put an inexpensive color 
Inkjet on her machine as it would be to try to figure out a way to put 
this one on the router (though Ink costs more for the Inkjets). 

73 de Phil  KO6BB

Hsu, Aaron (NBC Universal) wrote:

>The Win98 to WinXP networking problems are somewhat common.  Here are a few
>things to try...
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>* Make sure all the computers are in the same "Workgroup".
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>*  Make sure there is an account created on the WinXP system with a username
>that matches the username of the person logged into Win98.  Yes, you *do*
>logon to Win98, but if you didn't set a password (blank password), Win98
>automatically logs you in and you just don't realize it.  You can retrieve
>the Win98 username by clicking on the "Start" button.  Second to the bottom,
>it should show "Log off username".  Create a user account on the WinXP
>system with this same username with no password (or the same password on the
>Win98 system if you're using one).
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>*  Make sure that the computernames assigned to each system are in
>UPPERCASE.  I remember reading somewhere that Win9x can't handle lowercase
>computernames.  Win9x sends it's name in uppercase, but Win2K/XP will send
>it's computername as is (the way it is entered in the "computername" tab of
>of "System Properties" control panel) regardless of case.
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>There are intricate details in Windows networking that will prevent even the
>simplest thing from working.  For example, it might take up to 50 minutes
>for a computer to show up if you try to "browse" for it.  You can access it
>anytime if you know the computer name, but if you try to find it using the
>Network explorer, it might not be there.  It all has to do with "Browse
>masters", "browse lists", and "WINS" - beyond the scope of conversation
>here.  WinXP now natively uses TCP/IP and DNS for networking, but it still
>uses browse lists in "mixed" environments (environments with older Win9x
>systems).
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>>>> Can't seem to access this machine directly from her machine, so she
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>doesn't have direct access (perhaps because of my NTFS file system on this
>one?)
>
>As for FAT vs NTFS on a network share...it doesn't matter.  Networks in and
>of themselves are a form of filesystem and the filesystem on the computer
>share is "transparent".  As long as the computers are using the same network
>protocol(s), then they can share files.  Think of the Internet...most
>servers on the Internet are UNIX or Linux based...these OS' don't use FAT or
>NTFS, but you can still access the files on them with a non-UNIX/Linux
>system.  As long as you use the right protocols, it's not a problem.
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>>>>Where does that deleted file (or any other deleted files) from her
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>machine go?  
>
>Files deleted on a network share are immediately deleted.  It's just as if
>you typed "del filename" in DOS.  
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>>>>When she wants to print an Email that she's received, I have her save
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>the Email as a .eml document in her shared Documents folder.  I then open it
>on this machine, print it and delete that saved Email.
>
>Even though you're networked with ethernet, it sounds like you're still
>using "sneakernet" <g>.  Once you're able "see" the WinXP system from the
>Win98 system, you should then be able to print directly from the Win98
>system.  On the XP system, open the Printers control panel, right-click on
>the printer and select "Sharing...".  Give the printer a simple share name
>(keep it short).  Also, if you want to make the drivers for this printer
>available to other non-WinXP systems, click on the "additional drivers"
>button and choose what drivers you want to make available (make sure you
>have the drivers disk ready).  You don't have to do this, but it makes the
>installation on the "other" end "diskless".  Then "browse" to the WinXP
>system from the Win98 system and it should show a printer share.
>Double-click on the printer and it will install itself.
>
>Better yet, as mentioned earlier, if the printer has networking
>capabilities, plug it in!  Then you can use "direct IP" printing and you
>won't need to have the WinXP system powered on whenever you print from the
>Win98 system.  Some setup is required on both systems - check the
>documentation for the printer's networking setup.
>
>73,
>
>  - Aaron Hsu, NN6O
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