[Ham-Computers] RE: XP-Pro, How do I ???

Tue, 07 Jan 2003 13:57:35 -0800

I am running windows 98 SE, Netscape 4.76; and/or Internet Explorer and O=
utlook Express version 6.0. The only place I have found for automatic dis=
connect from the phone line is in Outlook Express.

If you click on the "Send/Recv" button, the sub window that comes up has =
a little box to check if you want the computer to disconnect when finishe=
d receiving email. I have tried checking the box and it works.

My personal preference is to leave it unchecked because if I am running I=
nternet Explorer and / or Netscape at the same time, when Outlook Express=
 finishes receiving email it would disconnect regardless of what I might =
be doing with the other two programs.

Rolly

PS: Is there a reflector swap and shop on computers and software?? I am l=
ooking for a copy of Norton's Ghost program.

Rolly  W7DGX

"Hsu, Aaron" wrote:

> I haven't touched WinXP yet, but I can speculate...
>
> In certain Windows apps (such as Microsoft Outlook (and Express), there=
's an option to use the dial-up connection if needed, and, there might be=
 an option to "hang-up when done".  In Windows 2000, if you go to the "In=
ternet Settings" control panel, click on the "Connections" tab, and click=
 on the settings of the dial-up adapter, you'll see an "Advanced" button.=
  There you can set the disconnect settings (via time out or "when connec=
tion may no longer be needed").  In your case, you might want to try sele=
cting the "when connection may no longer be needed" checkbox (might be di=
fferent in XP).  In the properties of the dial-up adapter in the Network =
control panel, you can also set the "idle timeout".
>
> As to the amount of time required to disconnect, that may be due to the=
 way Windows initializes the modem.  There are two ways to tell the modem=
 to "hang up".  One way is to initialize the the modem so it drops the co=
nnection when the "DTR" line goes low (DTR is a line on the RS-232 port).=
  This is also known as "dropping the DTR" to hang up.  The other way is =
to send the "ath0" command to the modem.  However, the modem must be in "=
command" mode in order to do this, so if a call is currently connected, y=
ou need to get the modem's attention by first sending a a "+++" string.  =
This string must be "in the clear", so the system waits until at least 2 =
seconds pass without any data flowing "out" before sending the "+++".  Th=
e modem will go into "command" mode if enough time passed before receivin=
g "+++" and will respond with an "OK".  You (or Windows) thens sends a "a=
th0" to hang up the line.  If Windows doesn't receive the "OK" after send=
ing "+++", it waits and sends the "+++" again until
> it does receive the "OK" response from the modem before sending the "at=
h0".
>
> As you can tell, dropping the DTR is much faster as the modem immediate=
ly hangs up.  However, since Windows NT based systems (NT/2K/XP) don't al=
low "direct" access to ports, the only way to hang up is to use the "soft=
" method - "+++" followed by "ath0".  This is probably why it takes longe=
r to hang up...more overhead required.
>
> I also haven't touched OfficeXP yet, but it should be the same as with =
Office 2000.  In Excel 2000, if you have multiple files open, you can vie=
w all the sheets by going to "Windows" menu and clicking "Arrange...".  Y=
ou can then select the various "views".  The view you're looking for is "=
Vertical"
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> 73,
>
>   - Aaron Hsu, NN6O (ex-KD6DAE)
>     {nn6o}@arrl.net
>     {athsu}@unistudios.com
>     No-QRO Int'l #1,000,006
>     . -..- - .-. .-   ".... . .- ...- -.--"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Atchley [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:09 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Ham-Computers] XP-Pro, How do I ???
>
> Hi.
> I've been running XP Pro for sometime now and like it a great deal.  Ju=
st a
> couple small things that I haven't been able to figure out, maybe someb=
ody
> here can help.  (No I didn't find the answers in the help files though =
that
> doesn't surprise me).
>
> 1.  I use I.E 6.0 and Outlook Express 6 on a dialup. The computer is a
> standalone machine with no other computers networked to it.  When I sel=
ect
> any of my programs that requires a dialup it dials the ISP and connects=
 ok
> (elite.net) and everything works just fine.  HOWEVER, when I'm finished=
 and
> close the program the dialup connection remains intact until I left cli=
ck on
> the little icon in the taskbar and tell it to disconnect.  It then
> reluctantly disconnects (takes a little while)....  When I ran WIN98 SE=

> anytime I closed a program requiring Internet access it brought up an "=
auto
> disconnect" window and when I clicked it the disconnect was very quick.=
  I
> can find nothing to allow a "Autodisconnect" in my XP network stuff.
>
> 2.  Office XP.  Up to the time I installed XP I'd been using the freewa=
re
> 602 Office Suite to access Excel and Word documents.  Works ok but not
> great.  HOWEVER, it did allow me to open two Excel documents in differe=
nt
> windows and "split" the screen displaying one document below the other =
(it
> had a menu select to allow documents in different windows).  Now in XP =
Pro
> I'm running Office XP and for the life of me I CANNOT figure out how to=
 do
> this in Excel.  It insists in opening both documents to one window and
> forcing me to view one or the other.
>
> 73 de Phil  KO6BB
>
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