[Hallicrafters] 40 m antenna used on 80 m - what to expect?

[Carl]

I guess Mike would have a bit of a problem understanding how the US 
military is using trees as antennas.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul" <w2ec at bmjsports.com>
To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Hallicrafters] 40 m antenna used on 80 m - what to expect?


> Jeez Mike,
>
> You seem to be hung up on "if it ain't perfect, it
> ain't gonna work".
>
> The rest of us are saying "we know it ain't perfect,
> but it does work to some extent".
>
> Yes, I know about antennas, impedance, co-ax vs open
> line etc. And yes I have all the manuals, many going
> back the 30's and 40's (like the original Radio
> Handbook's, these were my dad's who had been into ham
> radio since the late 1930's) so I have a wealth of
> reference material.
>
> Did we use this configuration at home? Of course not!
> At home we had the resources to do it properly. You
> apparently checked me out on a license database since
> you called me Paul, which is my given name but on the
> ham bands I use Ray. Check out my station on my
> website via qrz.com and you'll see my home station
> that uses the proper "tuners" etc.
>
>>
>> Paul, I wonder if your operating awards on the wall
>> include the WATV certificate?  (Worked All
>> TeleVisions)  How close is your nearest neighbor?
>>
>
> What part of "summer cottage" did you not understand?
> We were not using this configuration from our home! We
> had neighbors, sure. There must have been at least
> half a dozen cottages scattered over the island. But
> this was the late 1950's and very early 1960's. I
> don't think anyone had a television on the island, it
> was probably 10-15 miles to the nearest place that
> might have had a TV to watch the one or two channels
> that they might have picked up. Back then we weren't
> hung up on TV like everyone is today.
>
> You have to take into account our conditions. We
> originally set up the 80 meter dipole just to be able
> to use ham radio for fun on vacation and planned to
> stay on 80/75. But then when the band was dead and the
> weather was crappy we started to experiment with the
> other bands to see what could be done. We started
> seeing contacts from all over the US and decided why
> not try for WAS from the cottage? The antenna was
> working fine so we decided, why change it? Never made
> WAS on 80, but to our suprise, 40 and 20 were doing
> OK. Never made WAS on 15 either and didn't really do
> much hamming on 10 at all. But after about 3 years we
> made WAS on 20 and a couple years later on 40.
>
> Stereo's and acid rock? I was brought up on artists
> like Perry Como, Nat King Cole, The McGuire Sisters,
> Patti Page and Jo Stafford although I did listen
> occasionally to that young upstart Elvis the Pelvis.
> So I guess we are from different eras, or brought up
> differently.
>
> As for my french fried output filter and melted final
> tank coil, I just went down in the shack and took my
> DX-60 apart to see what it looks like. I don't think
> the top has been off the final in 30 years, if at all,
> and I KNOW the output filter has never been uncovered
> since I originally built it, in 1960. The DX-60
> replaced, in 1961, the AT-1 we had originally started
> with at the cottage.
>
> Anyway, to see the damage to my "poor long suffering
> DX-60", you can check out:
>
> http://www.w2ec.com/DX-60_Final.jpg
> and
> http://www.w2ec.com/DX-60_Output_Filter.jpg
>
> Yup, those parts sure do look fried and twisted to
> here and back!
>
> Sorry, can't check the Dow-Key relay points, that's
> been moved on to other projects years ago and I
> wouldn't have any idea which one was the original used
> at the cottage.
>
> 73,
> Ray W2EC
>
> --- Mike Everette <radiocompass at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Well,  I once loaded up a metal bunk bed frame and
>> springs in a college dorm room and worked some QSOs
>>
>> Betcha if you open up the output filter in your poor
>> long suffering DX-60, you'll find every capacitor in
>> it has long since been french-fried, the coils are
>> discolored or misshapen... and if you open up that
>> Dow-Key relay, the contacts are pitted and the
>> tongue blued.
>>
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