[Hallicrafters] shipping by the rules

[jeremy-ca]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at brightok.net>
To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] shipping by the rules


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jeremy-ca" <
>
>>>> Another forum poster has tried to claim a Texas problem. Sorry but 
>>>> Texas is one of my prime areas and Ive not experienced any particular 
>>>> geographical problem.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Nothing like that in the Chelmsford hub, either your vision is ancient 
>> history or you have mistaken FedWrex.
>
> No mistake Carl, you must be confused with your experiences.    Also I 
> note that Glen posted a message supporting what I said.  Take it for what 
> it is worth.  If you choose to ignore two people based on your tour, that 
> is up to


What a laugh! My tour has nothing to do with the fact that Ive had virtually 
no problems with UPS in years and years.

Two people, with obvious bias, mean absolutely nothing when they keep 
repeating the same stale stories. While Mesquite may have had a problem it 
wouldnt be allowed to continue.


> you.
>> All the delivery companies do that including USPS. If the load wasnt 
>> tight it would never survive the OTR trip.
>> It might also give you a bit of insight into why the packaging rules 
>> demand hard foam in both boxes.
>
> I received a new computer today with packing just as you describe.  The 
> box was damaged in shipment and the cables for one of the components had 
> been shaken loose.  When I pack, I exceed the requirements by reinforcing 
> the box bottom, sides and top with up to two inches of styrofoam and UPS 
> even managed to break some of the sheets.


So what? The foam is to protect the goodies, not survive unscathed so you 
can show it on Ebay.....


>>
>> I guess you have little experience about load weight distribution in OTR 
>> hauling.
>
> It does't take an idiot to under stand weight distribution, and I have 
> many years calculating weight and balance on airplanes as a pilot and 
> mechanic which are just as sensitive as OTR trailers.  And up there, you 
> can't pull to the side of the road to move things around.


Well I guess then that you may be qualified to be a UPS driver and impress 
everyone with your knowledge. Id love to be around for the interview when 
you claim that loading an airplane is the same as an OTR trailer!


>>
>> Heavy packages can be up to three high per UPS loading rules. Thats the 
>> reason for understanding crush ratings vs package weights. It also means 
>> that you dont use 3rd hand unrated boxes from some 3rd world Asian 
>> country to ship your radio in.  See my prior comment about cheap hams.
>
> Not all hams are cheap Carl.


Nope, just the ones that are usually whining about damage at every 
opportunity until the rest of us simply tune them out.


  If you are, don't try to assign that label to
> me.

Thats between you and your wallet, I could care less.


And you might want to be at your UPS terminal the next time they load
> an OTR to see how many boxes are in a stack.

As many as it takes to reach the top but the heavy ones are only 3 high.

I just read your comments to a good friend with 27 years at UPS. He was my 
local driver untill getting promoted to OTR.
What he said about the tall tales from Texas cant be repeated here......

As far as Im concerned the subject is over. Ive got to finish palletizing a 
57 TBird engine for pickup today that is going to Australia. I ship 3-4 
engines a year, mostly motor freight.

Carl
KM1H