[Hallicrafters] Smeter

[Larry Margrave]

Looking for s meter for a and S17.  In trying to rebuild the old girl radio 
works fine but meter shorted.  Artsy engineers well it is a.  Any help would 
be appreciated.  Having trouble getting in on net.  Have tried many ways 
hope this way works
thank you so very much
Larry Margrave
LMargrave2 at comcast.net
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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:00 AM
Subject: Hallicrafters Digest, Vol 50, Issue 36


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>   1. PS-500 Electrolytics (Dale Parfitt)
>   2. First Wednesday CCA AM Night April 2nd! (Larry WA9VRH)
>   3. Re: Clocks and MSFT (long) (Kenneth G. Gordon)
>   4. Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore (TC Dailey)
>   5. Re: Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore
>      (kim.herron at sbcglobal.net)
>   6. Re: Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore
>      (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
>   7. RE: Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore (Gerry Steffens)
>   8. Re: Electronics stores and internet sales (Thierry Stora)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:02:26 -0400
> From: "Dale Parfitt" <parinc1 at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] PS-500 Electrolytics
> To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <000601c89290$37b342e0$2f01a8c0 at ownernq1ru0tcu>
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> Is there a good source for the caps in the PS-500? I would prefer to keep 
> the supply looking original.
> I see that Antique Electronics has the cans, but may have to make small 
> PCB's to mount them on.
>
> Tnx,
>
> Dale W4OP
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:20:39 -0600
> From: "Larry WA9VRH" <wa9vrh at dishmail.net>
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] First Wednesday CCA AM Night April 2nd!
> To: "Hallicrafters ref" <Hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <010201c8929b$30002080$7494694b at KWM380>
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>
> FIRST WEDNESDAY AM NIGHT!!! Sponsored by the Collins Collectors 
> Association.
>
> Wednesday April 2nd,2008 on 3880 kcs at 7:00 PM local East Coast time 
> marks
> the start of the latest
> chapter of First Wednesday AM Night, drawing hundreds of vintage stations
> from across the country.
>
> The event is anchored by a "tall ship" AM station in each time zone. The
> East Coast and Central sections run
> for 90 minutes in response to the tremendous participation in those time
> zones. The remaining time zones
> will be an hour. We encourage stations to check-in on AM using Collins and
> other AM transmitters, new and
> old.  It's an opportunity to revel in this nostalgic mode, enjoy giving
> vintage equipment a "run," and sharing
> some storytelling about classic vacuum tube homebrew and commercial 
> designs.
> Typically more than a
> hundred stations take part in the evening's coast-to-coast AM event; by 
> the
> time it concludes at 10:00 PM
> Local PST.
>
> LISTEN for the following anchors and stop by to say hello, won't you? You
> don't have to be running Collins
> or vintage gear to be welcomed into the group.
>
> 7:00 PM-8:30 PM Local East Coast Time Anchor:  Bob W0YVA
>
> 7:30 PM-9:00 PM Local Central Time Anchor:  Jim W0NKL and Brian K0EFJ
>
> 8:00 PM-9:00 PM Local Mountain Time Anchor: K0OJ Jim and Chuck KD0ZS
>
> 8:00 PM-9:00 PM Local West Coast Time Anchor:  WA6FIZ Mickey
>
> We are still looking for additional anchors in the West Coast time zone.
> Please contact me if you are interested!
>
> comments please to wa9vrh at dishmail.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:38:46 -0700
> From: "Kenneth G. Gordon" <kgordon2006 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Clocks and MSFT (long)
> To: Hallicrafters <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <47EF89D6.12846.1F16AFF3 at localhost>
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> On 29 Mar 2008 at 20:52, Bob Macklin wrote:
>
>> And I don't plan to buy any more MSFT products!
>>
>> Bob Macklin
>
> Although MicroSnot no longer "supports" Windoze 98 as far
> as new upgrades, etc, are concerned, they DO still provide
> all the updates which were available up until that time in
> 2006 when support was supposed to stop.
>
> However, in order to get to the downloads and install them,
> you have to, simply, FIRST install Internet Explorer ver 6.0
> SP 1, which is available from MicroSnot's website
> (support.microsoft.com) as a download.
>
> After you have done that, then you simply, from within your
> new IE 6.1, click on "Tools" then "Windows Update" and
> follow the prompts.
>
> As part of my job, I recently had to go through 14 surplussed
> laptops to cull out those that still worked well, vs those that
> didn't.
>
> I found that 95% of the OLD laptops, those which originally
> had Windoze 95, 98 or 98SE installed on them, still worked
> perfectly...even the old batteries still worked fine.
>
> Most power-supplies also worked fine. Those that didn't only
> needed the connector at the end fixed in most cases.
>
> Those laptops that didn't have original power supplies could
> easily use one that was used on another manufacturer's
> laptop, since there are only about 3 unique voltage/current
> requirements for all laptops. Most take 19 VDC at 3.15
> amps, and that info is usually listed on the bottom of the
> laptop.
>
> I then wiped the HDs, and reinstalled Windoze 98SE from
> an original install CD (I hardly ever throw anything away),
> and did the above.
>
> THEN I discovered that all of the various motherboard
> drivers (video, LAN, modem, sound, etc) are also still
> available from several sources easily reached on the
> Internet.
>
> This site:
>
> http://www.driveragent.com/
>
> is a gigantic help for this sort of thing...
>
> So, now I have a nice little laptop to use with my PK-232-
> MBX for Packet, etc, in the shack!
>
> Those Win98SE boxes are really not up to snuff for 98% of
> modern users of computers or modern bloated software, but
> they work PERFECTLY in the shack.
>
> In fact, I was told to "...get rid of..." any laptop which would
> not support Windoze 2K Pro or XP. One of those missed the
> dumpster and landed in my shack. :-)
>
> I was told by the guys at surplus (here on the U. of I.
> campus) that they could sometimes get as much as $30.00
> (!) for a working old laptop with all the accessories, and that
> it wasn't worth the paperwork hassle.
>
> Oh, BTW, after installing Win98SE and doing all the
> available updates, the system now is correct for DST.
>
> Oh...another BTW...if you wanted to upgrade the HD in any
> of these old laptops, larger IDE HDs are available on Epay
> for very little. I bought a good, working 60 GB HD for a
> laptop for $41.00.
>
> ALL laptop HDs are identical (except for the newest SATA
> drives) and are easily replaced. Also, older laptop memory is
> VERY cheap, and most laptops require the same kind. I.e.,
> memory "chips" are NOT unique to the manufacturer.
>
> Some laptops are really "weird" to disassemble, but all it
> takes is patience, imagination, and a couple of small Phillips
> screwdrivers.
>
> Most laptops I have experimented with output very low
> levels of RF noise, unlike most desktops.
>
> So this is yet another reason why a laptop might be very
> useful in the shack.
>
> Also, they all can accept a full-sized keyboard, mouse, and
> a full-sized monitor. Some monitors, however, output a
> TERRIBLE amount of RF noise so be aware.
>
> Lastly, AVGFree (free.grisoft.com) and some other
> antivirus/antispyware programs work perfectly with
> Win98SE.
>
> Ken Gordon W7EKB
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:35:06 -0700
> From: "TC Dailey" <daileyservices at qwest.net>
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore
> To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <016701c892cf$733e2fc0$6502a8c0 at dailey>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I'm in the commercial fire-alarm business, and as such, have found, along
> with my competitors, that finding technicians (ANY technicians) who have a
> grasp of simple electronics and the usage of a multimeter, to be nearly
> impossible these days.  I personally witnessed one so-called
> "technical-representative" (from a Major company) come up to an earlier
> "hard-wired" (non addressable) fire panel, and get totally frustrated,
> because he could'nt find the "plug in for the laptop".
>
> We've raised an entire generation of folks who think that the world is run
> with a keyboard, and haven't a clue of how to use DEDUCTIVE REASONING for
> problem solving.  The electronics stores are just the outward "sore" - the
> true disease lies beneath the skin, I'm afraid.
>
> Tom - WØEAJ
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:39:01 -0400
> From: <kim.herron at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore
> To: "TC Dailey" <daileyservices at qwest.net>,
> <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <002801c892c7$9d7f9330$75d6eb4c at HPa550y>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hi Tom!!
>
>    I work in maintenance for a Gov't agency and truer word have never
> been spoken.  We CAN'T find
> ET's to work on postal equipment.  The pay is extremely good and the
> bennies our great.  But nobody can pass the test.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "TC Dailey" <daileyservices at qwest.net>
> To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:35 PM
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore
>
>
>> I'm in the commercial fire-alarm business, and as such, have found,
>> along
>> with my competitors, that finding technicians (ANY technicians) who
>> have a
>> grasp of simple electronics and the usage of a multimeter, to be
>> nearly
>> impossible these days.  I personally witnessed one so-called
>> "technical-representative" (from a Major company) come up to an
>> earlier
>> "hard-wired" (non addressable) fire panel, and get totally frustrated,
>> because he could'nt find the "plug in for the laptop".
>>
>> We've raised an entire generation of folks who think that the world is
>> run
>> with a keyboard, and haven't a clue of how to use DEDUCTIVE REASONING
>> for
>> problem solving.  The electronics stores are just the outward "sore" -
>> the
>> true disease lies beneath the skin, I'm afraid.
>>
>> Tom - WØEAJ
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:14:50 -0500
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore
> To: "TC Dailey" <daileyservices at qwest.net>,
> <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <00dd01c892d5$0c46b930$81ea1240 at hpdc5100mt>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> In all fairness, employeers no longer offer prospective employees any
> incentive to become highly skilled. Most businesses hir less skilled, if
> skilled at all, employees and pay them a very minimal wage. Look around.
> There are hundreds of thousands of highly trained, very skilled and
> experienced American employees working for the federal minimum wage 
> because
> businesses will not hire them. Why? It costs them too much to employ
> educated and/or skilled and/or experienced people. It is "all" about that
> bottom line Tom. Keep the stock holders happy, regardless of what it does 
> to
> the health of the company, the future of their products and the lives of
> their employees.
>
> Why should American workers care? They have already learned, much to their
> dismay and financial ruin, that companies show employees no commitment or
> consideration. If American businesses want dedicated workers, then these
> companies need to show them that the company is there to work with them as 
> a
> team and not just to exploit them.
>
> People can say whatever they wish about the late Howard Hughs, but his
> companies were 'never' owned by stock holders! This man did more for 
> America
> then the vast majority of us realize, thanks to the countless tales told
> about him. Yes he was mentally ill, he had Obcessive Compulsive Disorder,
> unheard of in the thirties through the sixties. The drugs he was given for
> the serious injuries he received in two aircraft crashes and one auto 
> crash,
> possibly more, needed the administration of pain killers for his very
> survival. Unfortunately, the narcotics, all prescription pain killers are
> narcotics, accentuated his OCD!
>
> What Howard Hughs contributed to this country is mind boggling if one 
> looks
> at all of the inventions, modifications to existing technology and new 
> roads
> that he blazed.
>
> Unlike most businesses today, he was not afraid to take a risk. When a
> company sits upon its past glory days, it soon becomes a memory! When a
> business sits on its hands and plays it safe, it is soon left in ruins by
> other companies who actively pursue aggressive marketing.
>
> Don't fault the American workers Tom, owners of most of the businesses in
> this country stole their pension funds, cheated them out of their 
> retirement
> benefits and exploited them at every opportunity. Why should expect them 
> to
> be happy?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "TC Dailey" <daileyservices at qwest.net>
> To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:35 PM
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore
>
>
>> I'm in the commercial fire-alarm business, and as such, have found, along
>> with my competitors, that finding technicians (ANY technicians) who have 
>> a
>> grasp of simple electronics and the usage of a multimeter, to be nearly
>> impossible these days.  I personally witnessed one so-called
>> "technical-representative" (from a Major company) come up to an earlier
>> "hard-wired" (non addressable) fire panel, and get totally frustrated,
>> because he could'nt find the "plug in for the laptop".
>>
>> We've raised an entire generation of folks who think that the world is 
>> run
>> with a keyboard, and haven't a clue of how to use DEDUCTIVE REASONING for
>> problem solving.  The electronics stores are just the outward "sore" - 
>> the
>> true disease lies beneath the skin, I'm afraid.
>>
>> Tom - WØEAJ
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> 3/28/2008
>> 10:58 AM
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:15:47 -0500
> From: "Gerry Steffens" <gsteffens at pitel.net>
> Subject: RE: [Hallicrafters] Nobody wants to be a "technician" anymore
> To: "'Duane Fischer, W8DBF'" <dfischer at usol.com>, "'TC Dailey'"
> <daileyservices at qwest.net>, <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <014601c892d5$223001c0$6400a8c0 at monster>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I offer a different perspective.  I have held positions of electrical
> engineer, operations manager, vice-president of Operations and now Manager
> of Electric Operations in four different electric utilities.  Yes, I was
> downsized once.  I did change, I moved.  I am currently Chair of the 
> Project
> management Committee of a 450 million dollar electric transmission line
> project.  This project is one of three such projects totaling 1.4 billion
> dollars in investment being done by a consortium of eleven companies
> comprised of investor owned, rural electric cooperative and municipal
> utilities in Minnesota.  The number of first class linemen, truck drivers,
> engineers, accountants and the like required for such an effort is in the
> high hundreds.  We don't know where to find them.  Most all of these jobs
> START in the range of $55,000 to $70,000.  These projects are just 
> starting
> but will go on until about 2015 or so.  Then the next round hits.
>
> My son (the blonde, blue-eyed, Polish/Norwegian boy) is trained in
> engineering technology and computer science.  He graduated about 5 years
> ago.  He now is a computer systems administrator and troubleshooter for 
> one
> of the largest property insurers in this country.  Most of the people in 
> his
> classes were not of western European extraction.  His view is that 
> generally
> the parties he knows just don't want to work hard enough to study these
> topics (this is either in college/university and/or tech school).  The US
> previously turned out 70,000 to 90,000 engineers per year.  Now the 
> numbers
> are in the range of the high teens or low 20 thousands.  Much of the job
> transitions are necessitated by not having the skills available.  Everyone
> can't be a lawyer or professional entertainer (sports or otherwise).
>
> I recently hired a tech school grad to be an electric system operator.
> After hire he had to study almost 9 months to get the necessary
> certification to do the job.  He started at $72,000 annually.
>
> My examples are not the only ones out there, I could quote many others. 
> The
> point is that the skills needed are constantly changing.  One must
> constantly learn/change.  Many folks (young & old) refuse to do so.
>
> I am 63 and have about two or three different offers coming to me monthly.
> But, folks must be willing to do the time first, get the reputation, the
> skills, etc.
>
> We don't have any more nasty conspiracy out there than in times past.
>
> Older guys like us need to recognize that just like the hoo-haa about 
> young
> folks (like gen-Xers) needing to be treated differently because of 
> culture,
> we need to be instructed in what the job to be done is and how it must be
> done today, not how it was done yesterday.
>
> I was a tube type aerospace engineer out of school.  If I had not changed, 
> I
> would be in the minimum wage situation Duane describes.  I always ask 
> those
> who complain, "How have you changed or modernized?
>
> Sorry for the chapter & verse diatribe.  I know there are some cases where
> the jobs have moved off-shore and more.  But, one of my system operators 
> was
> a baker in his earlier life (that person now is dragging home over $82,000
> annually).  Now that's change.
>
> I haven't really proofed this, I even made myself tired.  Hope my point is
> salient.
>
> Cheers from Minnesota,
>
> Gerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:08:54 +0200
> From: Thierry Stora <thierry.stora at cegetel.net>
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] Re: Electronics stores and internet sales
> To: Hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <47F063D6.9070509 at cegetel.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> HallicrafterSX28 at aol.com a écrit :
>> This is a nationwide phenomenon.Electronics parts stores are going out
>> of  business...
> Hi gentlemen,
>
> you could even write that it's a worldwide phenomenon. Here in France,
> more than 99% of the electronic supplies stores have diseappeared in the
> last ten years.
>
> The only source with reasonable prices and a large choice of passive
> components I've been able to locate on the european continent is located
> in Romania... And when it comes to tubes, the USA are the sole good
> choice in my opinion.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>
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