[Hallicrafters] 5-letter signals

[jeremy-ca]

Us old swabbies have to stick together Gary. Maybe it was just the Navy ops 
that had the ability to copy 5 letter groups. I suspect that the Army ops 
had ADD after 3.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary" <xfrmrs at roadrunner.com>
To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; "Thomas C. Dailey - Dailey Services, 
LLC" <daileyservices at qwest.net>; <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] 5-letter signals


>I have to agree with Carl. I to was a radioman, 2nd class on the USS Wasp
> (flat top) and we received telegraph in groups of five. Could be a mix of
> letters or numbers. Many a time I had to rip this out of the old mill
> (typewriter), which by the way was nothing but capital letters, and hand 
> it
> to the OD for decoding.
> My 2 cents worth.
> Gary...WZ1M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
> To: "Thomas C. Dailey - Dailey Services, LLC" <daileyservices at qwest.net>;
> <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] 5-letter signals
>
>
> BS Yourself.
>
> ALL classified CW traffic was in 5 letter code groups in the USN. The RM's
> typed it on a special form and then gave it to the Radio Officer on watch 
> to
> take into the decoding room. Replies were handed to the RM's in 5 letter
> groups to transmit back.
>
> In early 1961 the first on line crypto machines came aboard ship. These
> worked off the RTTY converters and printed out on a Model 15 machine for
> starters and then the Model 33's and 35's since the 15's came apart when 
> the
> speed went from 60 to 100WPM. It took over a year to get the bugs out of 
> the
> system and drop the backup CW transmissions.
>
> As the only ET on board with TS Crypto clearance and training on the
> decoding box I spent many hours keeping that crap running. I was in the
> radio room when the first traffic came across ordering our group in the
> Meditarranean to hightail it to Cuba.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas C. Dailey - Dailey Services, LLC" <daileyservices at qwest.net>
> To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:45 PM
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] 5-letter signals
>
>
>> BS!  The only signals used by radio TELEGRAPH ops were "Q" and "Z"
>> signals. ZUE means affirmative, ZUG means negative, and so forth.
>>
>> "Routing Indicators" were used for teletype (on and off line), and WERE
>> 5-letters, but based on the central distribution station they came from -
>>
>> i.e RUWD during the mid-60's was Naval Relay Station, San Diego.
>>
>> RUWDE was Fleet Anti-Submarine Warfare Center, SDIEGO (us) - RUWDG,
>> RUWDAF, RUWDB, RUWDC, etc.  went to other commands.
>>
>> Perhaps this is what he is thinking, but to my knowledge there were NEVER
>> 5-letter signals among civilian or military ops.
>>
>> TCD
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