[Hallicrafters] Re: Hallicrafters Digest, Vol 46, Issue 2
Larry Margrave
lmargrave2 at comcast.net
Fri Nov 2 11:34:51 EST 2007
Thank you thank you
You hit the problem right on the head for me. I'm trying to fix up R42
speaker which is hallicrafter dark gray. Went to Sherman Williams to get
paint and they tell me that the color coding you listed is for a light gray
which I can understand. They also said the code that you listed 6405 -- 13
974 he said is a latex Sentinel all paint. is he mixed up or are we. This
is all new to me. Any help would be appreciated. Also looked at the
gravity of the paint gun at cummins tools . It has a small paint bowl at
the top and a pressure regulator for the air and two different spray
nozzles. I don't know what I'm going to need.
Larry Margrave
LMargrave2 at comcast.net
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> From: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] Paint formulas
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> Every so often I get repeat requests for the formulas
> of the paints that I use on boat anchor cabinets.
> Here are the formulas from Sherwin-Williams of the
> cabinet colors that I have had matched to date. Note
> that these are for 1 quart unless otherwise noted.
> Also, all but 2 of thse I now have in acryllic (which
> dries MUCH harder than normal enamel) and all are
> water-based except for the Johnson maroon which also
> has an oil base formula. The 2 that I have not yet
> acquired in acryllic are for latex enamel but acryllic
> is available and your local Sherwin-Williams store
> (and any other paint store that has paint mixing
> capabilities) can provide acryllic paint using the
> same color formulation.
>
> I always prime the cabinet before painting and what I
> use is the "el cheapo" primer from WalMart which costs
> 97 cents for a 10 ounce spray can. It is ColorPlace
> Gray Primer #20010.
>
> For a medium "crinkle" I overspray the primer with
> Rustoleum "Stone Creations". This comes in several
> colors but I have found that the gray color seems to
> work best. You have to hold the can between 14 inches
> and 18 inches away from the surface and spray in very
> short "bursts" while moving the can slightly. It akes
> a little bit of practice (try spraying on a piece of
> cardboard) to "get the hang of it".
>
> A paint that generally furnishes a light wrinkle is
> Krylon 3370 Jet Black. However, you need to apply
> heat to get it to really wrinkle correctly and then it
> may not work correctly every time. Therefore, I
> usually use the Stone Creations paint.
>
> After the "crinkle" or "wrinkle" pain has dried you
> then need to overspray with the correct color.
>
> Now the paints that I am giving the formulas for
> require some type of spray paint rig (unless your
> paint store is one of the relatively few that can load
> spray cans). There are all sorts of possible
> solutions ranging from simple arrays that consist of a
> can that may be pressurized using a bicycle pump all
> the way to compressors and "real" paint guns. I use a
> compressor and paint gun but for occasional use those
> cans that can be pressurized do work (they are
> available from Harbor Freight and many paint stores).
>
>
> The formulas:
>
> Collins:
>
> St. James Gray (used on the "A" Line equipment):
>
> Colorant oz 32 64 128
>
> B1 Black 2 - - -
> Y3 Deep Gold - 13 - -
>
> Acryllic: Ultra Deep Base 6403-25981
>
>
> S-Line Cabinet (formula is for 1 gallon but store can
> reduce this for 1 quart):
>
> Colorant oz 32 64 128
>
> B1 Black 4 - - -
> Y3 Deep Gold - 62 - -
> N1 Raw Umber 2 6 - -
>
> Acryllic: Extra White B20 W 51 6403-36442
>
>
> S-Line Trim Ring:
>
> BAC Colorant oz 32 64 128
>
> N1 Raw Unber - 17 - -
> G2 New Green - 1 - -
> B1 Black - 2 1 -
> Y1 Yellow - 1 - -
>
> Acryllic: Extra White B20 W 51 6403-36434
>
>
>
> Hallicrafters
>
> Cabinet gray (HT-37, etc.):
>
> BAC Colorant oz 32 64 128
>
> B1 Black - 21 - 1
> N1 Raw Umber - 21 - -
> Y3 Deep Gold - 5 - 1
> W1 White - 12 - -
>
> Latex Enamel: Deep Base 6405-13974
> (available in acryllic, store can use proper base)
>
>
>
> Heath
>
>
> Apache Green
>
> Colorant oz 32 64 128
>
> B1 Black - 32 - -
> G2 New Green - 16 - -
> Y1 Yellow - 12 - -
> L1 Blue - 12 - -
> W1 White - 8 - -
>
> Acryllic: Ultra Deep Base 6403-25981
>
>
> SB-Line Cabinet (this is one of the 5 different colors
> that Heath used and is, in my opinion, the best
> looking of the 5):
>
> Colorant oz 32 64 128
>
> B1 Black - 7 1 1
> L1 Blue 6 1 - -
> N1 Raw Umber - 62 - -
> Y3 Deep Gold - - 1 1
>
> Acryllic: Extra White B20 W 51 6403-36434
>
>
> DX Cabinet (DX-20, DX-35, DX-40, DX-100):
>
> Colorant oz 32 64 128
>
> B1 Black - 24 - -
> N1 Raw Umber - 40 - -
> R3 Magenta - 3 - -
>
> Latex Enamel: Deep Base 6405-13974
> (available in acryllic, store can use proper base)
>
>
>
> Johnson:
>
> Maroon (Ranger, Valiant, Pacemaker, etc.):
>
> BAC Colorant oz 32 64 128
>
> B1 Black - 22 - -
> R3 Magenta - 6 - -
> R4 New Red - 8 - -
>
> Acryllic: Ultradeep Base 6403-25981
>
> Oil: Ultradeep Base 6403-25775
>
>
>
> National
>
> Cabinet gray (i.e. NC-2-40DT):
>
> Colorant oz 32 64 128
>
> B1 Black - 41 1 -
> R2 Maroon - - - 1
> Y3 Deep Gold - 6 - -
> W1 White - 18 - -
> R4 New Red - - 1 1
>
> Acryllic: Ultradeep Base 6403-25981
>
>
> "Off the Shelf" or "standard formula paints for those
> who do not want to get their paints specially mixed.
>
> Collins:
>
> KWM-1
>
> Standard formula paint ASA 61 Gray. This is a
> "standard" industry formula and should be available at
> just about any paint store. ASA 61 is an "exact"
> color match to the KWM-1.
>
> S-Line cabinets (not trim ring). Real close (but not
> a cigar) "off the shelf" is Rustoleum 1982 Winter
> Gray.
>
>
>
> RME
>
> Cabinets from the late 1930s to the 1950s. Really
> close "off the shelf" is Krylon 1608 Smoke Gray.
>
>
> I do not have any other paint "matched" at the present
> time. The formulas are presented for those who are
> wanting to repaint their equipment the original color.
>
> Most of the radio manufacturers did NOT prime their
> cabinets before painting. I do NOT recommend painting
> over the original paint because this will often cause
> the original paint to "flake off". You need to
> completely strip the original paint (sanding where
> necessary) and then prime the cabinet. Then paint it
> with the desired color.
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
> Website: http://k9sth.com
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