[Hallicrafters] RE: Hallicrafters Digest, Vol 17, Issue 4

Sun Jun 5 18:59:23 EDT 2005

A couple of personal comments on value of SX101 (or whatever)

Obviously, it's worth to you what it's worth, and the same on the seller's
side. This holds true for anything in the "free market economy."  As far as
ebay goes, I make it a practice NEVER to buy substantial (over $75 or so)
items on ebay unless they are from licensed hams, and then only usually
after some email correspondence.  I just got an SX101A from a friend locally
for $175 in 8.5 out of 10 physical condition and 9.5 electrical.  I think
this is something of a nepotistical price, as I've had a long relationship
with the seller.  He' s moving and didn't want to move it or ship it, and
I've always wanted one.  QTH.com swap pages are a good source.  Today there
are 2 101s of different models, one for $250 and one for $350.  I've had
better luck with things being as described here than on ebay.  Altho people
do ship these things, I wouldn't!  If you're near a metro area, post with
some nearby radio clubs, or put a wanted ad on QTH.com, and see what
happens.  Have patience!  (I've wanted an SX101 since 1958!)

Good luck !

Ron K2RP

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   1. Re: I need a bigger boat. (Ken Sprouse / WA3FKG)
   2. Almost forgot ( wasRe: [Hallicrafters] I need a bigger boat.)
      (Ken Sprouse / WA3FKG)
   3. Re: Almost forgot ( wasRe: [Hallicrafters] I need a bigger
      boat.) (Anthony W. DePrato WA4JQS)
   4. Re: FT-241 Crystal holder needed (Glen Zook)
   5. Re: FT-241 Crystal holder needed (Roger K8RI)
   6. Bigger Boats and SX-101's and stuff (Mark Shaum)
   7. Re: FT-241 Crystal holder needed (Roger K8RI)
   8. Re: FT-241 Crystal holder needed (jeff)
   9. BFO Coil on SX-99 (David Hollander)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 08:42:57 -0400
From: Ken Sprouse / WA3FKG <wa3fkg at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] I need a bigger boat.
To: Waldo Magnuson <magnuson at mac.com>
Cc: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <1117888977.14701.38.camel at linux.site>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 01:33, Waldo Magnuson wrote:
> Yes, if the size of the anchor is a measure of the boat needed to be
> properly matched, then I need a bigger boat.  Yesterday I purchased a
> Hallicrafters DD-1 Skyrider Diversity.  I'm not sure why I "needed" but
> the price was good and now the choice is to refurbish, trade, sell, or
> whatever.  It sure is heavy and I think I have run out of bench space.
> I don't think I have seen smoother tuning.  Everything look great, no
> rust,  no dents, no serious scratches, etc.  Only the speaker and one
> tube is missing.  Does anyone have first-hand experience on working on
> the DD-1?
> 73,  Skip Magnuson  W7WGM
Speaking of the "price being right" I have a question you may be able to
help with.  I recently bid on an SX-101 on eBay.  When I first noticed
it the high bid was $47 and I thought "Oh boy! I can have the receiver
of my novice days for a very reasonable price." even though I knew it
would probably cost twice that much to ship it.   So I put in a bid of
$50 and was immediately out bid.  I placed a second bid and that was
also out bid by some auto response program.  So I thought "Let's see how
bad he wants this." and I bid $100 at which time I became the high
bidder.

For the next few days I watched the auction and started to wonder how
badly I wanted an SX-101.  This particular one while far from pristine
was in pretty good shape based on the photos of it.  The seller however
was not a ham, not even a radio person as far as I could tell, but
rather a "reseller" who if my guess is correct probably got the 101 for
next to nothing.  There was a disclaimer saying that the radio powered
up all of the dial lights and tubes lit up and noise came out of the
speaker but that was the extent of the knowledge of the rig.  Having no
idea what the "going rate" is on used boat anchors I had to bid based on
"What is it worth to me" as they say.

To make a short story long, I was the high bidder for several days and
was beginning to wonder what it was going to cost to ship this beast if
it were packed in what I consider a proper manner.  Then I got an email
saying that I had been out bid and did I want to try again.  I decided
that if I did buy an SX-101 that I wanted one that was in better shape
than this one and preferably from someone who knew its history.  So my
question to you and the group is this.  What is the going rate on a nice
clean SX-101 these days?  I made my first contact with an SX-101 and a
DX-100 and have thought about rebuilding that station some day but this
is the fist time I had made a serious move in that direction and it was
on a whim.  Usually not the best way to go about buying something.
Thanks for any advice that you can offer.

--
Ken Sprouse / WA3FKG   John 3:16
Blog: http://www.wa3fkg.blogspot.com
Member of the American Radio Relay League
Pittsburgh Area Scanner net on Sunday evenings 9:00PM on 147.090 mHz.
The Box said "Win95,98,2000 NT4.0 or better" So I installed Linux!
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 08:50:03 -0400
From: Ken Sprouse / WA3FKG <wa3fkg at verizon.net>
Subject: Almost forgot ( wasRe: [Hallicrafters] I need a bigger boat.)
To: Waldo Magnuson <magnuson at mac.com>
Cc: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <1117889403.14701.45.camel at linux.site>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 01:33, Waldo Magnuson wrote:
> Yes, if the size of the anchor is a measure of the boat needed to be
> properly matched, then I need a bigger boat.  Yesterday I purchased a
> Hallicrafters DD-1 Skyrider Diversity.  I'm not sure why I "needed" but
> the price was good and now the choice is to refurbish, trade, sell, or
> whatever.  It sure is heavy and I think I have run out of bench space.
> I don't think I have seen smoother tuning.  Everything look great, no
> rust,  no dents, no serious scratches, etc.  Only the speaker and one
> tube is missing.  Does anyone have first-hand experience on working on
> the DD-1?
> 73,  Skip Magnuson  W7WGM
I got so long winded I forgot to mention that for those that would like
see what I was bidding on the pictures are still available on eBay. (
http://www.ebay.com ) Look up item number. 5776440990
--
Ken Sprouse / WA3FKG   John 3:16
Blog: http://www.wa3fkg.blogspot.com
Member of the American Radio Relay League
Pittsburgh Area Scanner net on Sunday evenings 9:00PM on 147.090 mHz.
The Box said "Win95,98,2000 NT4.0 or better" So I installed Linux!
Glock - The ultimate point and click user interface. (c)

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:24:40 -0400
From: "Anthony W. DePrato WA4JQS" <wa4jqs at mikrotec.com>
Subject: Re: Almost forgot ( wasRe: [Hallicrafters] I need a bigger
	boat.)
To: wa3fkg at arrl.net, Waldo Magnuson <magnuson at mac.com>
Cc: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20050604091408.00bccd88 at pop.mikrotec.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

a look at the pics say a lot it is not in bad shape and is worth the
$179.00 . now for the interesting parts. the front panel says it is a SX
101 but the glass dial shows 80- 10 mts with 2 and 6 which i thought was
the SX 101A.???
the sx 101 was made from 1957 thur 1958 there was the sx101 , mark 1 mark 2
mark 3 and mark 3A. these had 160 and 11 meters. they also had the round
metal H next to the dial knob. the SX101A was a major change in production
it was produced from 1959 to 1962  if i recall . they dropped the round H
next to the dial and dropped 160 and 11 meter coverage. they added 6 and 2
meter coverage with an outboard 46 or 49 mcs converter. the radios in
question may be a SX 101 A with the front panel changed or a SX 101 with a
SX 101A dial glass added. Glenn and Chuck might be able to give us more
info. i have owned 4 SX 101A's have not had a 101 but who knows. the 101A i
have now is setting next to my SX 115 and i really do not see much
difference in them receiver wise, i like the 101A better for AM copy. both
i got from the org owners along with a thunderbolt amp. guess ill thin out
the herd this summer . next project is to recap my two valiants.
73 Tony wa4jqs

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] FT-241 Crystal holder needed
To: Roger K8RI <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>,
	Hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <20050604150803.80749.qmail at web52909.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

You need a socket for an FT-243.  The one for the
FT-241 is MUCH larger.

Now, the Globe Chief 90 and the Globe Chief 90A used
an octal socket mounted behind the panel.  If your
Globe Chief has a "regular" FT-243 socket or if
someone has added an FT-241 socket, then that is NOT
original unless the transmitter is a Globe Chief
Deluxe.

I have a WRL Globe Chief 90A as part of the
re-creation of my original Novice Class station from
1959.  I have also taken a look at some photos of the
Globe Chief 90.  Both have the octal socket for the
crystal socket.  You can see the machine screws that
hold the socket in place even though there are only
two holes spaced on 0.486 inch centers through the
panel.

Now, the Globe Chief Deluxe did use the brown single
type of crystal socket and not an octal socket.  If
you have a Globe Chief Deluxe then what you need is
still an FT-243 single type of socket.

Needless to say, you need to be a little more specific
in identifying your transmitter.  WRL made the Globe
Chief 90 and Globe Chief 90A both of which covered 160
through 10 meters.  They also made the Globe Chief
Deluxe which covered 80 meters through 10 meters.  All
three transmitters a pair of 807 tubes in the final
amplifier stage.

Glen, K9STH

--- Roger K8RI <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>
wrote:

At least I think it's a 241.

What I need is the brown phenolic crystal holder that
goes on the front of a Globe Chief.  The one that
holds the large crystals we used as Novices back in
the late 50's and early 60's.  I'm setting up my old
Novice station and the crystal holder has a large
piece broken off. It still works though.

Glen, K9STH

Web sites

http://home.comcast.net/~k9sth
http://home.comcast.net/~zcomco

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:33:39 -0400
From: "Roger K8RI" <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] FT-241 Crystal holder needed
To: "Glen Zook" <gzook at yahoo.com>, <Hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <00b201c5691c$51135770$6700a8c0 at roger2>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

> You need a socket for an FT-243.  The one for the
> FT-241 is MUCH larger.

You're right, it's the Globe Chief Deluxe which has the crystal holder and
not the octal socket behind the panel.

Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
> Now, the Globe Chief 90 and the Globe Chief 90A used
> an octal socket mounted behind the panel.  If your
> Globe Chief has a "regular" FT-243 socket or if
> someone has added an FT-241 socket, then that is NOT
> original unless the transmitter is a Globe Chief
> Deluxe.
>
> I have a WRL Globe Chief 90A as part of the
> re-creation of my original Novice Class station from
> 1959.  I have also taken a look at some photos of the
> Globe Chief 90.  Both have the octal socket for the
> crystal socket.  You can see the machine screws that
> hold the socket in place even though there are only
> two holes spaced on 0.486 inch centers through the
> panel.
>
> Now, the Globe Chief Deluxe did use the brown single
> type of crystal socket and not an octal socket.  If
> you have a Globe Chief Deluxe then what you need is
> still an FT-243 single type of socket.
>
> Needless to say, you need to be a little more specific
> in identifying your transmitter.  WRL made the Globe
> Chief 90 and Globe Chief 90A both of which covered 160
> through 10 meters.  They also made the Globe Chief
> Deluxe which covered 80 meters through 10 meters.  All
> three transmitters a pair of 807 tubes in the final
> amplifier stage.
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
> --- Roger K8RI <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>
> wrote:
>
> At least I think it's a 241.
>
> What I need is the brown phenolic crystal holder that
> goes on the front of a Globe Chief.  The one that
> holds the large crystals we used as Novices back in
> the late 50's and early 60's.  I'm setting up my old
> Novice station and the crystal holder has a large
> piece broken off. It still works though.
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
> Web sites
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~k9sth
> http://home.comcast.net/~zcomco
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:28:04 -0500
From: "Mark Shaum" <k9tr at dtnspeed.net>
Subject: [Hallicrafters] Bigger Boats and SX-101's and stuff
To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: wa3fkg at verizon.net
Message-ID: <002601c5692a$c42921a0$0200a8c0 at ahome.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Original Message
From: "Ken Sprouse / WA3FKG" <wa3fkg at verizon.net>
 I got so long winded I forgot to mention that for those that would like
see what I was bidding on the pictures are still available on eBay.

Ken,

That auction unit is a SX-101 MK3A, which has the dial scale with the
converter band calibrated for 6 and 2.  The give-away is that the 11
meter band is still marked at 27 Mcs, otherwise it looks a lot like a
101A.  The 101A also has a toggle switch labeled Fast/Slow for the AGC
selection, which earlier variants did not have.

Regarding your original question on prices, I'll just state that I am
not likely to ever buy anything from an auction site that weighs more
than 20 pounds anymore (your average non-ham reseller, and some hams for
that matter, can't pack a box worth a darn!).  Those vintage front
panels, glass and knobs are expensive to replace!

I find patience and attendance at local hamfests pays off eventually.
I've had my eye on a number of SB-620 panadaptors to complete my SB line
setup on that auction site for the past six months, but found one at the
Springfield, IL hamfest this morning for about half the usual winning
bid price, and my shipping cost was a 1 1/2  hour round trip's worth of
gas.  And it even works.  I also picked up a clean SB-10 sideband
adapter for my old Apache-Mohawk pair.  Wonder how drifty that Apache
VFO will be on 20 meters SSB?

Depending on the status of severe weather tomorrow morning, I'll be
heading north to the Princeton 'fest, which has a good reputation for
boatanchor appearances.  SX-101's pop up there often.  I already have a
very nice 101A and a decent plain 101 with 160 meter coverage so don't
need another, but you never know.  This end of the house is starting to
settle a bit, I need more and bigger boats to stack at the opposite end
to balance the foundation.

73! - Mark  K9TR
------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Shaum K9TR
email: k9tr at dtnspeed.net
http://www.qsl.net/k9tr
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:12:46 -0400
From: "Roger K8RI" <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] FT-241 Crystal holder needed
To: <Hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <001b01c56952$8f3028e0$6700a8c0 at roger2>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=response

Disclaimer: Don't try this at home<:-))

You mean you didn't operate with the cabinet off to see the tubes glow?

Back "in the old days" I saw many a high powered amp operating
"on-the-bench" with no cover during the test phase which sometimes seemed to
go on forever.  Back then, we didn't think much about it, now days we don't
think much of it.<:-))

> There was also a Globe Chief 90B which covered 160-10
> meters, with 807s in the final.  I had one of these.
> Got the WATV award with it too.

I never had any problems and my dipoles were only 20 feet from the TV
antenna. I only operated 80 and 40 meters.  Of course TV was all B & W then
and the nearest station was about 60 - 70 miles which made them all "fringe
area".  OTOH the next nearest TV set was over a mile from us.  I think ours
was about number 6 for the area.

The only real TVI I ever had was some years later when I was running a 6C21
pulse modulator tube on 20.  My neighbor's TV antenna was about 50 feet from
the tri-bander and of course he was pointed SSW at me to watch chanel 6,
while I had the beam pretty much NE for DX.  That didn't even work running
my HT-37 barefoot. Thankfully our hours worked out so they were seldom
watching TV while I was chasing DX.  I don't have any photos of any
incarnation of the station(s) when I first lived in Midland (62 through 66).

Which reminds me, there was another ham about 5 houses down from me. I don't
know what he use for a receiver, but he said when I was on 40 with the amp
the whole band would go dead for him.

But... Speaking of hot leads.  I had the HT-44, SX-117, and PS-150 power
supply for a while.  You measure plate current by measuring the voltage drop
across a resistor in the B+ line.  They thoughtfully provided meter jacks on
the PS chassis.  So, I was up on the bench with the equipment, holding the
meter leads in place with my left hand. I had to reach across to the left
with my right hand to move the meter (which had a metal case). Unbeknownst
to me, my fingers had slipped down on the probe tips.

I remember that sucker really bit me and then... I woke up on the floor.  It
took several minutes to get my breath back after climbing up into an easy
chair. Whether true or not, I don't know, but I believe it was the impact of
falling 4 feet onto a concrete floor that started my heart.

Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
www.rogerhalstead.com

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:09:18 -0400
From: jeff <jeffv at op.net>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] FT-241 Crystal holder needed
To: Roger K8RI <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>
Cc: Hallicrafters list <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <1117926558.32557.41.camel at stanley>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 18:12, Roger K8RI wrote:
> You mean you didn't operate with the cabinet off to see the tubes glow?

It's funny you mention this.... I've been working with computers forever
and the secret to keeping them running is to NEVER put the case or panel
back on.  The moment you do, it'll stop working :)

I didn't realize it applied to BA's too!

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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:58:33 -0700
From: David Hollander <n7rk at cox.net>
Subject: [Hallicrafters] BFO Coil on SX-99
To: Hallicrafters <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <42A23219.2060706 at cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Is the BFO coil on the SX-99 the same as the BFO coil on the SX-96 and
SX-100?

Thanks,

Dave N7RK
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Phoenix, Arizona         *DXCC Honor Roll*    *WAZ#22 - 75 Meter SSB*

ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX

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