[Hallicrafters] SX-101 Disassembly and Repainting
David Harmon
K6XYZ at comcast.net
Tue Oct 14 21:41:41 EDT 2003
Woody....I would be very careful with the paint. They may be able to
match the color but what about the compatibility with the original
paint?
I have never, ever seen a good repaint....there was always some
problem....orange peel, too much shine, not enough shine,
whatever...usually the piece is degraded in value too....even if it's a
good job.
The best repaint I have ever seen is the Drake cabinets from Hartzell,
the original contractor for Drake. I have a couple of them and they are
the real McCoy.
Regards
Dave Harmon
NSRCA 586
K6XYZ at comcast.net
Torrance, Ca.
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From: hallicrafters-admin at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:hallicrafters-admin at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Woody Demitz
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:13 PM
To: Mark Bell; bluebirdtele at earthlink.net
Cc: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] SX-101 Disassembly and Repainting
Thanks for the tips, Mark and Greg. I bit the bullet and peeled off the
rubber cover from the tuning knob, which came off seemingly none the
worse for wear. The main tuning knob itself came off slick as a
whistle, but the three controls attached to switches (response,
selectivity and band selector) will get the oil treatment. Called the
local Sherwin Williams paint store. They claim to be able to match the
orginal paint, so I'll try that route. Appreciate the help. Regards,
Woody
Mark Bell wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Woody Demitz" <w1941demitz at erols.com>
> To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:41 PM
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] SX-101 Disassembly and Repainting
>
> > Greetings:
> >
> > I just acquired an SX-101 Mk. 3. It's alive, but needs cosmetic
work
> > plus a recapping. In the spirit of "first do no harm," I have some
> > emnbarassingly basic questions for the group:
>
> Hi Woody --
>
> Ask away -- that's what this NG is for !!
>
> >
> > First, how does the main tuning knob come off? I assume the rubber
> > cover peels back to expose a bristol screw, but with rubber of this
> > vintage I'm a little concerned about splitting it. If it does peel,
is
> > it from the decorative center ring outwards (back towards the panel)
or
> > the reverse?
>
> The main tuning knob is attached with either hex or bristol screws, I
can't
> remember which.
> Loosen them, and the knob could come off.
>
> >
> > Second--Are there any surprises lurking when I separate the dial
frame
> > from the panel? I have visions of screwing up the dial assembly.
>
> No. There are two pieces of glass. The outer one comes off with the
front
> panel. The dial pointer is over the inner glass, and the inner glass
pane
> has the etchings on it. DO NOT use anything like Windex etc to
clean the
> etched glass. Plain water at best.
>
> >
> > Third--The paint. The front gray panel isn't bad. No scratches,
and
> > I'm thinking I'll just clean it. But was the orginal gray flat
(like
> > this one now) or shiny. I.e., should I wax it? The frame around
the
> > dial is a very flat black, and quite different from the satin black
of
> > the lower cabinet and cabinet ring. Should they be different? I
would
> > welcome anyone's advice on paint sources.
>
> Mine is satin. I didn't need to do anything to my front panel.
However,
> for both the HQ-170 and HQ-180 I worked on, I used Turtle Wax after
washing
> the front panel. It turned out really nice.
>
> 73 Mark K3ZX
>
> >
> > I look forward to your thoughts/advice! Many thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards, Woody
> >
> > ex KN4QIU, K0ODR, W4VNA and PA0SHD.
> >
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> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. Re: Replacement Capacitors (Mark Bell)
> > > 2. HT-44 SX-117 combo (Barrie Smith)
> > > 3. Re: Capacitors and HT-37 (Glen Zook)
> > > 4. Re: Contests (Alan)
> > > 5. Re: Re: Contests (Glen Zook)
> > > 6. HT-37 Capacitors C69 & C80 replacement (Waldo Magnuson)
> > > 7. Replacement (Wayne Light)
> > > 8. Cleaning Chassis (Wayne Light)
> > >
> > > --__--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > From: "Mark Bell" <bell at blazenet.net>
> > > To: "Bill" <k2wh at optonline.net>,
> > > "Philip Atchley" <beaconeer at elite.net>,
> > > <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Replacement Capacitors
> > > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:48:33 -0400
> > >
> > > and don't forget those resistors across each of 'em !!
> > >
> > > Keep us posted !!
> > >
> > > 73 Mark K3ZX
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill" <k2wh at optonline.net>
> > > To: "Philip Atchley" <beaconeer at elite.net>;
> <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:29 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Hallicrafters] Replacement Capacitors
> > >
> > > > Good point! I agree. For some reason it didn't occur to me to
> > > > use more than 2 caps. (3) is definitely the way to go. Thanks
> > > > for the advice.
> > > >
> > > > K2WH
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: hallicrafters-admin at mailman.qth.net
> > > > [mailto:hallicrafters-admin at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Philip
> Atchley
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:10 AM
> > > > To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Replacement Capacitors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > > I think that if the original circuit was rated at 10 uF 1200
Volts
> then I
> > > > would, AS A MINIMUM use three 33 uF 450 VDC capacitors in series
for a
> > > value
> > > > of 11uF at 1350 VDC. GOOD repair/overhaul practice dictates
that all
> > > > replacement capacitors MUST at least equal the originals in
value and
> > > > exceeding those values a little doesn't hurt, especially in
today's
> world
> > > > where the line Voltage is HIGHER than the gear was designed for!
> > > >
> > > > 73 from the "Beaconeers Lair".
> > > > Phil, KO6BB
> > > >
> > > > DX begins at the noise floor!
> > > > beaconeer at elite.net
> > > > Merced, Central California
> > > > 37.18N 120.29W CM97sh
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Going from memory here..... cuz I can't find my HT-37 manual,
that
> 750V
> > > > is
> > > > > steady state. Is that measured off of a choke ? I'm
wondering
> about
> > > > > voltage transients -- that may be why the caps were originally
rated
> at
> > > > 600V
> > > > > each. In that case 900V may not be enough.
> > > > >
> > > > > The equivalent circuit would be 10 uF at 1.2 KV.
> > > > >
> > > > > 900V Seems a bit low. Maybe someone with the schematic in
front of
> > > them
> > > > > can comment.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73 Mark K3ZX
> > > >
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> > > --__--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > From: "Barrie Smith" <barrie at centric.net>
> > > To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:51:37 -0600
> > > Subject: [Hallicrafters] HT-44 SX-117 combo
> > >
> > > Since my wife and I have decided to move to warmer climes sometime
> within
> > > the next two to three years, I will be selling some of the
equipment
> I've
> > > collected over the years.
> > >
> > > Since I don't keep track of prices, I have no idea of what to ask
for
> some
> > > of this equipment. If offers don't hit me on the right side, I
may not
> > > sell.
> > >
> > > First will be an SX-117 and HT-44, with power supply and speaker.
These
> > > pieces have been together since new. I am the second owner. They
are
> as
> > > close to mint as you could get.
> > >
> > > I've used them on most bands, probably about ten years ago. They
worked
> very
> > > well, and I got good signal reports. Since then, they have been
in dry,
> > > covered storage.
> > >
> > > Photos? I suppose I could take a few. I would think that members
of
> this
> > > group would know what they look like, and they look like new.
> > >
> > > Offers?
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Barrie, W7ALW
> > >
> > > --__--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:17:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Capacitors and HT-37
> > > To: Mark Bell <bell at blazenet.net>, Bill <k2wh at optonline.net>,
> > > Hallicrafters <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> > >
> > > I know that the HT-37 doesn't use oil filled
> > > capacitors! However, the WRL Globe Champion series
> > > did use them!
> > >
> > > In fact, very few commercial rigs manufactured after
> > > the early 1950s used any oil filled capacitors.
> > >
> > > I also agree with putting the "new" capacitors under
> > > the chassis when possible. Those made today are so
> > > much smaller that often every filter capacitor in the
> > > rig doesn't take up much more space than one of the
> > > older one!
> > >
> > > Glen, K9STH
> > >
> > > --- Mark Bell <bell at blazenet.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Personally, I'd save the originals for the "purist",
> > > and put in replacement caps without putting anymore
> > > holes in the radio.
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Glen, K9STH
> > >
> > > Web sites
> > >
> > > http://home.comcast.net/~k9sth
> > > http://home.comcast.net/~zcomco
> > > Contributing Editor Collins Journal
> > >
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> > > --__--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:48:38 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Alan <aadelma at yahoo.com>
> > > To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
> > > Subject: [Hallicrafters] Re: Contests
> > >
> > > I believe it is expressly forbidden to operate a
> > > contest on the WARC bands. Unfortunately, very few
> > > boatanchors have the capability to get on them!
> > >
> > > __________________________________
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> > > --__--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:44:27 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Re: Contests
> > > To: Alan <aadelma at yahoo.com>, hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
> > >
> > > The prohibition actually has nothing to do with FCC
> > > regulations. However, all of those contests that
> > > originate in the US (that I know of) do not allow
> > > contacts on the WARC bands. I don't know about
> > > foreign contests. I believe that this originally was
> > > started because most of the equipment in use could not
> > > operate on them and if they were "opened up" to
> > > contests that an unfair advantage would be given to
> > > those who could operate on those bands. Although most
> > > of the newer equipment can operate on the WARC bands,
> > > a precident was set and no one has chosen to change
> > > this.
> > >
> > > The ARRL is now recognizing DXCC, etc., from the WARC
> > > bands. But, in general, that hasn't had any effect on
> > > contests.
> > >
> > > The Collins S-Lines and KWM-2 series equipment operate
> > > quite well on the WARC bands as well as the new 60
> > > meter band. But they are certainly the exception.
> > > The old Hallicrafters HT-20 works fine on the WARC
> > > bands as well (it also will operate on the 60 meter
> > > band but since it is CW / AM only it cannot be used).
> > >
> > > Glen, K9STH
> > >
> > > --- Alan <aadelma at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I believe it is expressly forbidden to operate a
> > > contest on the WARC bands. Unfortunately, very few
> > > boatanchors have the capability to get on them!
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Glen, K9STH
> > >
> > > Web sites
> > >
> > > http://home.comcast.net/~k9sth
> > > http://home.comcast.net/~zcomco
> > > Contributing Editor Collins Journal
> > >
> > > __________________________________
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> > >
> > > --__--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:47:32 -0700
> > > Cc: Waldo Magnuson <magnuson at mac.com>
> > > To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
> > > From: Waldo Magnuson <magnuson at mac.com>
> > > Subject: [Hallicrafters] HT-37 Capacitors C69 & C80 replacement
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Bill,
> > > > I just (2 days ago) replaced C69 and C80 in my HT-37 with
Sprague
> > > > Atom 20uf/600v capacitors I got from Antique Electronic Supply.
They
> > > > fit in nicely and look like they were made for the 37. I'm
going
> > > > through my HT-37 and replacing all of the electroyltics, the
black
> > > > beauties, and several of the ceramics. I bought the 37 about a
month
> > > > ago and hope to get it on the air in a week or two.
> > > > Skip Magnuson
> > > >
> > >
> > > --__--__--
> > >
> > > Message: 7
> > > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:15:38 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Wayne Light <hwlight at sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
> > > Subject: [Hallicrafters] Replacement
> > >
> > > I've had great luck with this company...and they are nice people
there.
> In fact, he always throws in some extras! You will like the quality
of the
> product...Good luck
> > >
> > > http://www.justradios.com/orderform.html
> > >
> > > No...I don't work for them or get a kick back (at least not yet)
> > >
> > > Wayne K7NCE
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> > > Message: 8
> > > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:20:14 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Wayne Light <hwlight at sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
> > > Subject: [Hallicrafters] Cleaning Chassis
> > >
> > > Hello Bill...
> > >
> > > Well, for several years and several dozen dirty chassis later...I
have
> very good results with a product designed to clean wheels.
> > >
> > > Turtle Wax 2001 Wheel Cleaner.
> > >
> > > This is a no acid formula. I have watched several radios for many
> months and don't see any "side effects" on the chassis. I simply
spray it
> on, wipe it off ...usually a couple of times. The directions (for
wheels)
> says to "hose off" but I just wipe it until it is dry and then use
fine
> steel wool for the rest. Maybe someone else has a better idea...??
> > >
> > > Good Luck.
> > >
> > > Wayne K7NCE
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