[Hallicrafters] meter repair
Roy Morgan
roy.morgan at nist.gov
Fri May 3 15:06:21 EDT 2002
At 09:09 AM 5/3/02 -0400, Peter Sturdivant wrote:
>Anyone know of a firm that repairs (old moving) meters?
Here is my collected list of meter repair places and notes. SOME of these
places are no longer in business but I don't know which are which.
Roy
Charlie Jobes
125 Denmar Lane
Hendersonville, NC 28791
828-891-4355
He has been working on meters for 40 years and is 91 years old. He does a
heck of a job.....
Enjoy....
William J. Diamond ( Bill )
Rogers, Arkansas USA
diamowj at nwa.quik.com
HI Steve I can't answer off the top of my head about the meter repair. But
don't forget the great seach capabilities we have for the reflector. It is
located at:
http://www.tempe.gov/cgi-shl/WA.EXE?S1=COLLINS
At 10:55 PM 01/07/2000 -0600, Joe L. Reda wrote:
>I'm nearly finished restoring my SX-28, Anyone know of a good source for
>repairing these meters?
Hi Joe,
Here's some sources I've copied from previous suggestions. I know of Std
Mtr Lab in Livermore, went there with a Hickok meter once, they couldn't
help me. But I know others who have had good luck there.
Walter Kammann
Measurement Devices, Inc.
2663 Arleigh Rd.
East Meadow, NY 11554
(516) 546-2777
Standard Meter Laboratory
236 Rickenbacker Circle
Livermore, CA 94550
Another possiblity is MeterMaster. Their URL is <http://metermaster.com/>.
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 09:28:24 -0500
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Hi Guys,
Another possibility of meter repair is Ram Meter in the Detroit, MI
area. I've done business with them over the years and been happy. The
have a web site, and their repair service is listed there as well. address is
http://www.rammeter.com. they have an extensive product line and can fix
most anything from the broken meter movement to repairing the entire meter
itself.
73,
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These are the sources I know of. All comments came from other customers.
This is also a dated list, may or may not still be in business.
Tom Laird WC9M
Moline, IL.
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Ram Meter
1903 Barrett
Troy, Mich. 48084
ph. 810-362-0990
All they do is Meter repair.
Ye Olde Meter Cellar
Leonard W. Cartwright
879 Russet Drive
Sunnyvale CA 94087
(408) 739-6025
A few days ago someone asked about meter repair. I've recently been
in contact with a company that anyone with meter repair needs should
know about:
Standard Meter Laboratory
236 Rickenbacker Circle
Livermore, CA 94550
Phone: 510-449-0220
I called for repair information on an old Simpson 260 I retrieved from
a abandoned radio repair shop. They were willing to take it on, no
sweat. My earlier contact with them was in the 80s when they were
located in San Francisco. I brought them the rudder position meter
from the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior (the one later blown up by
the French). Not only was the meter old, it was English to boot.
I recently visited Standard Meter Lab, Inc. in Livermore, Ca. These
people know a lot about meters in general. They are able to
reproduce meters of just about any style and shape. They can create
meter face plates with a CAD program. They have a photographic machine
that creates a negative and a method of creating a positive plate that
can be inked to make an exact replacement.
I was able to have a meter made to original specks that was otherwise
not replaceable.
They have the necessary shunts and can acquire thermocouples that are
appropriate to the application.
I talked to Walt Homick and he understands the problem we face trying to
make everything perfect.
They are at 236 Rickenbacker Circle in Livermore--94550.
510-449-0220---Fax 510-449-1704
-------------------------another source-----------------------------------
IL Instruments
1335 Gateway Drive
Melbourne, Florida (Zip Unknown)
Phone: (407) 725.8300
From: "Roberta J. Barmore" <rbarmore at email.msn.com>
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For whatever it's worth....
I'm looking at the info for a Simpson 00034 DC High Voltage Test Probe,
for use with 260-3 through 260-6 VOMs (up through when they went to "safety"
connectors for the probes). For that model, they say to use the 2.5V
setting, but to read voltage on the 0-10 scale and multiply by 1000.
I don't know if later versions work similarly--be careful and don't cook
your meter!
(Don't cook yourself, either--Simpson's info strongly suggests not having
the probe or meter in your hands when you make HV measurements, and it's a
good idea).
73,
--Bobbi
From: "Marvin Wheeler" <marvwheeler at uswest.net>
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Subject: {Collins} Meter Repairs
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:26:31 -0800
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>From time to time people look for a person to repair analog meters. I just
received a meter back from repair and I am exceedingly pleased with the
product and the gentleman that did the repair. This was my first contact
with him.
I sent the meter out via USPS Priority on December 28 and received it back
today, the 5th of January. The gentleman who did the repair is W1HVA, Mr.
Charles Jobes.
If you have a meter that needs attention he is certainly capably if this
meter is any indication of his work. The needle was bent (which I had not
noticed) and it was dragging. The repair could not have been better.
Charlie can be reached at (828) 891-4355. Charlie is not in business as
such but does meter repair out of his home.
Ahem, off course this only applies to Collins meters. I did ask him if I
could recommend him to others and he agreed.
I probably should make the disclaimer that I am in no way connected with him
other than a satisfied customer.
Marv
KG7V
5/2001:
Bartlett in IA reported to no longer do analog meter repairs:
From: "johnf" <johnf at kc.rr.com>
To: "Collins" <COLLINS at LISTSERVE.COM>
Subject: {Collins} S line / KWM-2 Meter movement
...
Bartlett in IA no longer does analog meter repairs. Yes, I know that SS of
Neb lists, but that is the last resort. I luv used. ;-)
John
K0LFA
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Wally, Bob & Group,
The meter in all of the I-177 models is 1.4MA full scale. Don't know why
they chose such an odd value - probably so that the replacement would have
to come from them. We've never heard of any other manufacturer doing that,
have we? :-)
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Hi all,
Arden wrote:
>
> > The meter in all of the I-177 models is 1.4MA full scale. ......
>
> Piece of cake to add a shunt to a 1mA movement.
>
My AVO Mk III valve tester has a similarly unusual and hard to replace
meter. The dreaded previous owner had managed to burn out a pot and one or
two other bits but fortunately the meter was OK. I have taken the
precaustion of adding protection diodes to it - a schottky in the reverse
direction and a conventional diode in the forward direction as a schottky in
that direction caused a minor shunting effect. Makes no difference to the
reading at all, but you know the meter won't slam too hard now.
73 de Morris VK3DOC
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:42:37 -0500
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Hi Scott,
Contact Bartlett Instrument Co. in Ft. Madison, IA. The telephone # is:
319-372-8366. They are the original manufacturer and still have some
replacements the last time I checked. They get around $3.50 each plus
shipping.
Tony - W9JXN
"Freeberg, Scott (STP)" wrote:
> Hi, I'm looking for a clean meter face plate for my 312B4 wattmeter. I'd
> like to find a nice replacement before trying to make a new one. The old
> one has paint flaking off, probably due to poor paint prep. Thanks,
>
> 73, Scott WA9WFA
7/2001, from the Collins list:
Charlie Jobes
125 Denmar Lane
Hendersonville NC 28791
(828) 891-4355
He has been reported on the Reflector as being capable and reasonable in the
repair of Collins Meters.
Another is:
Standard Meter Labs
236 Rickenbacker Circle
Livermore CA 94550
I don't know much about them either, other than a minor repair and clean -up
has been quoted at $40.
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I recently acquired an ME-26D/U VTVM. It is in excellent shape except the
meter movement itself. The pointer drags against the dial plate ever so
slightly near the zero-volts end. I took the meter out expecting to be
able to open it and adjust the needle, but when I got it out of the box, I
found that job to be a little more complicated than I first thought.
This meter has a ring that locks the back cover of the meter to the
bezel/outer face plate. This is held together with a locking ring. The
ring has four small slots that I assume provide the means for a special
tool to unlock the ring by twisting it about 10 degrees.
The problem is I don't have a tool to unlock the ring. The shell is
approximately 3.7" and the ID of the slots is about 3.8" making the tool
that would be used to unlock this ring pretty special. Does anyone have
experience with this type of meter? Any chance of anyone having such a
tool to unlock the ring? Can it be done with a small punch and a hammer
without hurting the meter? I hesitate to try this, but it might my only
resort. Any suggestions on a makeshift tool to unlock it?
Any meter-rebuilding experts out there?
Thanks,
Barry(III) - N4BUQ
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At 11:03 AM 3/8/02 -0600, you wrote:
(The Meter Locking Ring)
... Any suggestions on a makeshift tool to unlock it?
Barry,
Fix into a block of wood brads or screws with the heads clipped off to fit
the meter mounting holes.
Sit the meter over the nails/screws and tap the ring with a screwdriver and
a hammer.. lightly. Squirt a bit of Windex into the area to lubricate the
thing. If it's stuck, push down at many places on the ring from straight
above with a screwdriver to loosen it. There is a rubber gasket to allow a
tiny bit of play.
Once it starts it will go more easily.
If that fails, take the thing to the home store and search for some copper
pipe the right size to make a wrench. Pipe a bit bigger can be bent in to
fit. Ensure equal pressure from each of the four fingers by careful filing.
Good luck.
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Well, I got the meter movement fixed in the ME-26D/U. Without a welder,
milling machine, etc., I decided to try with the available tools. I
mounted to the meter upside-down to a piece of wood with some neoprene
washers to protect the finish. Using two large screwdrivers, I was able to
apply pressure to two opposing slots and push the ring around to its
unlocking position.
After fixing the movement (straightening one of the bends such that the
needle moved about 0.020" away from the meter face), I started putting it
back together. Simple -- just push the locking ring back into position
with the two large screwdrivers. Was working great until one screwdriver
slipped causing me to loose my hold on both screwdrivers. The problem is
both hands were applying pressure towards the meter back. When my knuckles
came into contact with the lugs, I managed to skin my knuckles quite
nicely. Pain ensued (as well as some conversation with the meter which I'm
sure it didn't understand but it helped me feel better anyway).
I resorted to tapping the ring back into place with a hammer and large
screwdriver (I know! -- a screwdriver isn't a punch, but I don't have a
nice assortment of punches). At any rate, it tapped back into place rather
easily with no more lost flesh on my part and no damage to the meter. I
put it back together and it is working smooth as ever.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
Barry(III) - N4BUQ
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