A few years ago when I got my M19 up and running, I tried to copy the W1AW ARRL bulletin. Sure enough, I had problems at the left margin. They were sending only one CR. I contacted them and, even though they were using fldigi and could fix it easily, they were unwilling to do anything about it. I haven't checked lately, but I know they changed the transmitted mark frequency since then. I think true RTTY is becoming a lost art. Computers are taking over the world.
Bill
KE3BK

On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 12:47 PM Nick England <navy.radio@gmail.com> wrote:
It wasn't just a ham thing - military message formats required CR CR LF
Messages were often punched on tape and then transmitted at 100 wpm.
Example message from a Navy Radioman training manual -

(5 SPACES 2CR LF)
PP RUHPC      (2CR LF)
DE RUHPB 85 01/0841Z     (2CR LF)
ZNR      (2CR LF)
P 010837Z      (2CR LF)
FM CINCPACFLT (2CR LF)
TO RUHPC/NWBJ/USS (2CR LF)
RENSHAW (2CR LF)
BT (2CR LF)
UNCLAS (2CR LF)
1. THIS PLAINDRESS (2CR LF)
SINGLE-ADDRESS MSG IS (2CR LF)
....

Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com


On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 10:07 AM John Nagle via GreenKeys <greenkeys@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> From:"hwhall@aol.com"  <hwhall@compuserve.com>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] CR/LF trivia, in historical context
>
> radio amateurs made it a habit to send CR CR LF with the idea that 2 CRs
>   gave sufficient time for even a slow machine to get back to the start
> of the line.
>
> Wayne
> WB4OGM
>

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