Ok, I have to do more homework on this. I figured the ST-6 cannot maintain the 60mA because the voltage was dropping (as you suggested).
> No one runs a single 1000ma loop!
Understood. I was planning to put a 1500 ohm resistor in series with a 500 ohm rheostat to manage the loop current. My math suggests that with a total of 250 ohms of device resistance, and 120VDC loop voltage,
that 500 ohm rheostat would allow me the right range to adjust to 60 mA.
> CV-2460 has a low current mark-hold where it inserts an additional 2K resistor into the loop.
This is not something I had considered.
> Each loop has only one TU or CV with jacks/patch cords to insert a TTY into the desired loop.
I understand this. I’ll have to review some schematics from those navy patch boxes to see how it looks. But in an ideal world, I like the idea of having more than one TU/CV on the same loop with the same equipment and just decide which
to send audio to/from for what shift I need. This eliminates the need to patch/unpatch equipment – especially since I never do any simultaneous work on different channels/different machines.
All good info. I’ll do more homework here! Thanks!
73 Eugene W2HX
My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos
From: Nick England <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 7:50 AM
To: W2HX <[email protected]>
Cc: Greenkeys <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Loop supplies/ST-6?
Do I understand you are using your ST-6 in series with your CV-2460 and TTY machines?
Then your problem getting 60ma isn’t the ST-6 current capability but having enough voltage to overcome all the serial loop resistance. That may be way too much voltage. See #2 below
1) Standard practice is to have multiple loops driven by a single loop supply. Each loop has only one TU or CV with jacks/patch cords to insert a TTY into the desired loop. The 1000ma loop supply is so you can supply a dozen parallel loops.
No one runs a single 1000ma loop!
2) IIRC, the CV-2460 has a low current mark-hold where it inserts an additional 2K resistor into the loop. That’s sufficient to hold the selector magnets in, but it’ll obviously cause a low current issue if you are using the ST-6.
I highly recommend configuration #1. Don’t modify your ST-6, just make it’s loop separate from all the other loops driven by the Navy supply. Navy TTY patch panels include jumper posts so that any of the 6 (or 24) loops can be powered either
by that loop’s TU or by the large common supply.
Works good, works fine, paint it gray, lasts a long time.
Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com
On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 7:45 PM W2HX <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all
For many years, I’ve used my ST-6 as my TU with its built-in loop supply. These days as I am using a different TU for the 850 shift stuff. I still use my ST-6 but in STDBY (mark hold) mode just to have it supply loop current to the equipment as my CV-2460 expects and external loop supply (but not use the ST-6 as a TU for 850 Hz).
The number of machines on the loop has grown and therefore has been reducing the current that is able to be supplied by the ST-6 as I don’t think it was meant to handle more than a few devices. I have maxed out the rheostat in the ST6 (or minimized it as is the case). So I acquired a navy loop supply, designation PP-3495A (attached) that can supply 120VDC at a full 1A output.
I was wondering if anyone has modified an ST-6 to disable its internal loop supply and allow it to be used with an external supply? This way I can use one loop supply regardless of which TU/CV I am using to drive the loop (of course, the unused TU/CV would have to be in bypass/standby/mark-hold mode).
Thanks
73 Eugene W2HX
My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos
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