Hi Bill,

I don't have a 33, but I like to speculate based on limited last century experience with a 33.

The punch just operates from the same code bars the printer does.  So they should do the same thing unless there is a specific issue internal to one or the other after the code bars.

You say you have two 33s, have you connected them to where they talk to each other?  I would think that would help isolate the problem.  I forget, is the UCC6 the private line version or Telex?  If Telex that becomes complicated, I guess.

The reader is more independent from the keyboard than the punch if from the printer.  Do you get same results from both assuming a good tape?  If so then I think that points to the printer, and I'd lean towards a selector area problem. 

Is it a random problem or constant?  If you type alternating SG (I think that's the ASCII equivalent to RYs)

Perhaps you've gotten the same from direct emails, but I thought I'd throw them out anyhow.  Some times my rambling triggers an idea in someone else that's useful.

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You said "tomorrow" yesterday.

The above comments or recommendations are SWAG. Use at your own risk.
John, W9DDD
On 1/12/2023 10:36 PM, B Degnan via GreenKeys wrote:
Hi all - A while back I wrote about an ASR33 with a printer issue and I am still working to resolve.  The symptom is that 5th and the 8th "channel" are always punched or printed, vs. what was intended to be typed).  When I punch two papertapes from one good teletype and the problem teletype, I can overlay the tapes to see what's happening.  A tape of each key on the keyboard in succession (QWERTY...) shows the effect. 

I can use a screwdriver to hold in place to "block" the associated 5th bar that is misfiring and in doing so I can get the linefeed character to print / punch correctly.  That trick does not fix all problems though.

It appears that what's sent to the printer is the same incorrect codes.

I have carefully removed the printer from the chassis to inspect the underside of the printer.  I have compared and contrasted with a working teletype.  I did not see any obviously misaligned springs or bars.  It's a pretty clean machine too.  I have swapped the UCC-6's with no effect.   I have verified mykeyboard against the photos Wayne sent me to verify that the keyboard was ok - At least the thin metal pins are all in line.  I have disconnected the reader to eliminate this variable.

I read the suggestions from the last time I asked about this machine but none lead to a solution.  There could be a weak spring or a stuck metal bar or a code bar out of place I did not notice.  Not easy.

I recognize that I will need to continue to drill down into the machine and as I have time I will keep working on it on this end, but I thought I'd at least report my progress because I got a few replies to my initial inquiry this past summer.  If there a spot on the teletype that I could photograph to help one of you help me diagnose the cause of this problem I would be happy to post them someplace.

Thanks and best wishes.

Bill Degnan
kennettclassic.com
Kennett Square, PA






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