[GreenKeys] Western union telegram printer

Duncanancy Duncanancy at earthlink.net
Mon Oct 2 09:09:36 EDT 2023


Jeffery,Actually, WU did use page printers originally, but if they had to repeat part of a message due to glitches on the line, they had to repeat the whole message.With the strip printer, they could just repeat the missed part of the message, and then "cut and paste" the correction. Also, with the strip printer, the did not have to "waste" time sending CR and LF.WU had Morkrm and Kleinschmidt Electric modify some of their page printers into strip printers by removing the platen and turning the machine onto its back. c1920Have funDuncan Sent from my Kleinschmidt TT-4/TG, the US Army's first portable digital communications device, 1950-1980
-------- Original message --------From: Jeffrey Golas <jeffg at junknet.net> Date: 10/1/23  22:34  (GMT-05:00) To: Duncan Brown <duncanancy at earthlink.net> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Western union telegram printer Cool, so...technically...if one could disable the punching of a 14, and feed it skinnier tape, that would replicate the WU printing (although figures/numbers wouldnt work).Makes you wonder why they never just put the stock into a page printer, but the later variety of designs and themes I guess played into that.The 14 I have seems to use the standard 5-bit size tape, Ill have to double check that though. (I actually have..3 14s now, but the collection I acquired earlier this year included a fully working 14).My one struggle with it is the printing quality; I think I figured out how to set up the ribbon but it was fairly washed out, the newer/modern ribbons are probably too dry for it. I set it up another way which worked much better but left smears on the tape.Jeff> On Oct 1, 2023, at 9:24 PM, Duncan Brown <duncanancy at earthlink.net> wrote:> >  The unit that printed WU messages on a narrow strip of gummed paper from 1926 to c1960 was the Western Union Model 2B (WU's model number), which was first manufactured by the Morkrum-Kleinschmidt Corp. (after 1928, known as the Teletype Corp.).  With the addition of punching ability, it became the Teletype Corp. M14.> > > <WU gumdesk.jpg>> > > > Both the tape printer version and the reperforator version of the M14 were produced by Teletype Corp at the same time.  "Model 14" was a Bell designation. Teletype Corp. used a letter combination for model designation ( M14 = "Fxx"; M28 = "Lxx"; etc).  I don't know offhand what the different designators were for the M14 tape printer and reperf.> > The M14 tape printers were also used by Bell TWX operators to communicate with TWX subscribers. The tape printer was much cheaper and more compact than a M15.> > > Have fun,> > Duncan> K2OEQ> >> On 30-Sep-23 23:39, Jeffrey Golas wrote:>> Just curious, what printed the text that would go into a western union telegram? Obviously it was printed on tape, but that wasnt on a Teletype, right? Even the tape models like the 14 punch as well.>> >> Jeff>> ______________________________________________________________>> > ______________________________________________________________> GreenKeys mailing list> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net> >>>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham's GreenKeys Search Tool: https://teletype.net/gksearch>>>> 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/>>>> 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html>>>> Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool: http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> Message delivered to jeffg at junknet.net
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