[GreenKeys] Greenkeys problem

Sat Mar 19 13:50:01 EDT 2022

Joe,

Firefox and Opera also behave in the same manner.

Dave

G4UGM

From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Joe Duszynski
Sent: 19 March 2022 16:46
To: John <John at tubetestingpros.com>
Cc: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Greenkeys problem

John mentioned he checks the archives to see if anything is missed I do the same...
On the subject of checking the archives there is also an issue there too..

On Windows 11 using either edge or chrome if you try to check the archives with the url
https://rtty.com/ then press the (2002-present) button it won't work.
If the URL reads.
http://rtty.com/ then press the (2002-present) button it will work.

I would imagine this issue would also include other browsers because its an issue between HTTP and HTTPS.

The webpage should redirect to the insecure URL so it will work.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:28 PM John <John at tubetestingpros.com <mailto:John at tubetestingpros.com> > wrote:

On the email reflector topic:

Since I re-subscribed to Greenkeys, about three years ago - I have never gotten 100% of posts - and very seldom ever get any that I originated.  It seems to follow a random pattern; sometimes I get a few in a row, other times I get nothing for days, even though they are in the archives.

It's a case of several chained 'black boxes' - complicated by the fact that this is a Godaddy-hosted domain and email service, and since I don't (won't!) use Win11.99999 and Outlook, they are not inclined to help much, unless I come to my senses and abandon all this Mozilla junk I cling to.  I also get Greenkeys on my Android phone, and even fewer messages propagate through to it.  If it was just this one, I'd switch to something else, but I have 9 domains and 14 email services - it's way too daunting of a task for me to do myself.

For a while I collated and tabulated the posts - and then went through the headers to see if something was common to the "failures", but this proved inconclusive.

So I have the Archives bookmarked, and go there often to see what I've missed.  And just now, there are 18 messages and replies that I did not get, save for Paul Heller's mid-thread reply to Tom Hunter's OP: "Greenkeys problem". Paul's is the 11th reply in the chain, and it is the one quoted below - this is how I knew there were posts on the Subject in the first place.

The effort and time to try and get to the bottom of this is way more than I wish to expend - I do think it is probably a Godaddy issue - but all my other emails are at about 99% received - so I dunno.

Cheers

John KB6SCO

Carson City

PS: I snipped the long chain from this to avoid 'reply bloat'...

On 3/19/2022 8:50 AM, Paul Heller wrote:

When you guys say it “bounced”, what do you mean?  

A few years ago there was a big discussion here and the conclusion was that Gmail was filtering out the received message because it was the same as the sent message. The return incoming message was filtered out by gmail, but not the outgoing message. It only happened with list type servers like greenkeys. 

It’s mad because you don’t really know if it actually went out (it always did). Our conclusion then was that you just had to have faith. 

Paul
W2TTY

ITTY: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8000/ITTY 

ITTY 100:  HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8010/ITTY100

AUTOSTART: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8030/AUTOSTART
EUROPE: HTTP://INTERNET-TTY.NET:8040/EUROPE

On Mar 19, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Joe Duszyński  <mailto:joeduszynski1 at gmail.com> <joeduszynski1 at gmail.com> wrote:

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